Forum:Halo: Escalation Thread 2 (Issues 18-)

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This is a forum topic dedicated to discussing the comic series Halo: Escalation.

Issue 8

Wait... this never happened in the issue proper.

Thought I'd share some late thoughts/ramblings on the newest issue because it's the first one that delves into the series' primary plot line and characters and will probably matter the most going forward.

After the more subdued, character-focused Issue 7 which was a pleasant surprise coming from Reed after the underwhelming display that was Initiation, Halo: Escalation Issue 8 was mostly a disappointment. The biggest question in my mind is who thought it was a good idea to tell this story in comic form? There's just so much depth and complexity that could've been gained if this had been a novel (or perhaps even a CGI film?). Did they not have a novelist on hand? Did someone in a key position (say, in the writing staff) have a preference for the comic format for one reason or the other?

For one, the pace is uncomfortably hectic — what should be defining character moments, like John's reunion with his closest friends and comrades after so many years, are shrugged off in a couple of panels. And it's not like the subtleties of the Spartans' body and sign languages ("Spartan smiles", etc.) could be appropriately pulled off in a comic anyway. What's going through John's head after his loss of Cortana, or when he sees Osman (who I presume he hasn't seen for decades and didn't know was even alive) in the Security Council? What are the Spartans thinking seeing their comrades slaughtered? None of that comes through here. Comics can be a great medium for storytelling but the strengths of the format are all absent here. Everything that we see would've been better presented via prose.

It doesn't help that the art is frankly underwhelming for a series of this scope and story importance. I stress the latter because Escalation is no longer a side story about tertiary characters but a proper continuation of the series' primary storyline. Microsoft has no shortage of money, so why not make sure they have a top artist illustrating their flagship comic? I know Halo has had those in the past (Blood Line stands out for its vibrant, crisp illustration) or was that just a Marvel thing? (though to be fair the art in Fall of Reach was pretty sketchy too).

On a side note, what's with the Spartans' identical light blue eyes? This is a weird visual media thing that first appeared in the Birth of a Spartan trailer and was repeated in Forward Unto Dawn but never came up in the novels.

Spartan Black's demise has been discussed to death both here and on other forums, so I won't delve too much into that. Though one can make reasonable guesses on why 343i decided to get rid of them, I still disagree with the way it was handled. The same Prometheans which supposedly slaughtered Black like animals barely seem to pose a threat to Blue, and if the Didact was involved we get no indication of this. It doesn't raise the stakes or make the Prometheans feel more threatening, it just shows that our main characters are protected by the plot, at least for the time being. As an interesting thought experiment, I wonder how people would've reacted if Black had been replaced by Kilo-Five?

Another issue I have is that while the Didact's return was probably a surprise for no one at this point, I just can't take him seriously whenever he appears in a visual medium. His design is so cartoonish, over the top and injected with the average preteen's idea of "cool" it might easily pass for something scribbled by a 13-year old. He looks like a villain from an 80's kids' show, and the evil throne isn't helping things. I always thought he looked like a comic book villain, and I guess he literally is one now.

Now, the book Didact is another matter entirely — I'm starting to think only Greg Bear could make 343i's version of the Forerunners work by adding the appropriate levels of weight and nuance to their characterizations whereas at the hands of their in-house writers like Reed here they just come across as flat cartoon characters. Unlike some people I'm mostly fine with the Forerunner Saga and even some of its more esoteric aspects: it draws from a long tradition of "sufficiently advanced" technology in science fiction with some thought-provoking themes running in the background, as opposed to more superficial Hollywood and comic book ephemera.

And that's another thing: a lot of recent developments seem to be geared to making Halo less like the gritty, technical military sci-fi it used to be and more like the Marvel universe with the Spartans being turned from an elite special operations outfit into something more closely resembling a superhero team, a brooding godlike general of an immensely complex ancient civilization becoming an over-the-top cartoon villain, or zero concern to physics or technology with pulp silliness like tormented souls popping up from walls or ships no longer having to abide by the previous limitations of slipspace travel. I don't like to point fingers, but I do wonder if all this has to do with 343i's current lead writer's Marvel background. Now, despite not being much of a comic reader, I love pretty much all of the MCU movies which are filled with this kind of absurdity. But I'd rather they kept the Halo universe's tone as it was rather than molding it into something it's not. --Jugus (Talk | Contribs) 03:14, 13 August 2014 (EDT)

Couldn't agree with you more. And kind of amusing - "tormented souls popping up from walls". The whacky "composers abyss" is just out of place in the Halo universe and makes it seem as though I reading a hairy potter comic. You already know my stance on these science-fantasy elements that 343i implemented since Halo 4. Anyway, I definitely agree that the latest entry in this comic series was a major let down especially compared to the previous issues. Its almost as though everything was rushed and there was little emphasis placed on anything really. Like I said in "subtracting canon" (I know everyone disagrees with the title but it came from lack of better wording, plus I wanted an interesting forum title) the reunion between John & blue team was insignificant, the slaughter of black team was unnecessary & uneplained, and then there's the didact in his great cartoony glory. Basically, when it came down to this issue, my main problem with it was execution and irrational decision making. Now some people may say that "developers may not want to revisit certain characters". If that's the case why bring them back in the first place only to kill them off rendering them nothing more than a skid mark? Leave it alone, leave them where they lay, leave well enough alone. Bringing them back only to immediately kill them off seems more like a slap in the face to most fans than if they just left them a mystery (and you don't want to disappoint the fans since they account for majority of revenues by the way). Just because 343i has the power to do something doesn't mean they should do it. Yes, you're not going to please the fans everytime but at least if they took the time and safest approach to doing things than at least you can lesson the damage. And some may say "what 343i does counts regardless of what the fans prefer". But again, just because they can do it doesn't mean they should. There is a such thing as reviewers, opinions, forums, etc...If 343i properly executed this story w/ proper explanations for things, less rushed plot lines, and better artwork, than there'd be a lesser chance of displeasing fans. And like Jugus said, if you can't do it in a comic, than reserve it for a book, game, or mini-movie like "Nightfall", rahter than trying to stuff and shorten things in a tiny 20 or so page comic.--Killamin7 [Comm|Files] 09:38, 13 August 2014 (EDT)
I agree. What annoys me about the art style is that it can go from pretty decent, then all of a sudden, it becomes horrid. I wonder if the artist knows how to draw humans, or what the alien species actually look like sometimes. I feel like the poor pacing of these comics has to do with the shortness of each issue. There isn't a lot of room to explore the story or add emotion unfortunately. Darth Maul's Son of Dathomir comic series (also created by Dark Horse) has forty pages per comic and a great art style. This gives each issue enough time to explore entire battles. I realize that Star Wars is more well-known than Halo, but still I would expect Mircosoft to put some money into Escalation to make it a better comic series. Although the series has made several mistakes (mostly due to art style) and has not accurately portrayed some of the characters, I still think it's one of the better comic series we have seen so far and explores interesting parts of the Halo universe, such as the Ealen peace treaties or New Phoenix's reopening. And I wouldn't mind if it continued beyond November.
However, I think my biggest problem with this series as a whole so far is how it ends stories. While I know that this is partially due to the length of each issue, a lot of the stories featured in Escalation are poorly wrapped up or forgotten. 'Gajat seemed to be an interesting character. He was a mercenary that was working with human insurgents, Kig-Yar, Sangheili, and Jiralhanae, and then he was killed off and his organization was forgotten about (I know it's a longshot, since the comic covers have been rather unreliable, but I hope the Kig-Yar on the cover of issue 11 is from the mercenary group and Tek has now taken over or something). The Spirit of Fire was advertised to be appearing in one of the issues, but only had a small cameo. Petra was kind of forgotten about. The Ealen IV storyline ended pretty well, especially compared to the others. I think that if the length of each issue and the art style was improved (maybe on par with Son of Dathomir), Escalation would benefit greatly.
And I agree that 343i is starting to portray Spartans as superheroes (especially Blue Team/Palmer/Majestic). I think it would have been better if the Didact never changed from his original appearance. It isn't over-the-top cartoon villainy, and I actually like his appearance/armor better. I really hope Halo doesn't begin to drift into the deep sci-fi/fantasy genre. As much as I love Star Wars, I've never been a fan of the hardcore fantasy elements like "Dathomir magic" or Force ghosts turning alive again. That's one of the reasons I prefer Halo. The science is kept relatively realistic and is more based on some form of actual science (real or not). However, some of the Forerunner abilities, like imprints, seem to be coming from the fantasy genre. Nonetheless, I'm excited for November and all of the upcoming Halo content. Broken Circle will hopefully be a refreshing read with the lack of Halsey hate (although I am still waiting for more news on the novel or some sort of preview). - NightHammer (talk) 11:10, 13 August 2014 (EDT)