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::It's an observation: I was merely pointing out one of many possible futures of the ''Halo'' franchise as well as giving out my doubt of Frankie's handling of the ''Halo'' canon (oh, this is more of a criticism than it is a complaint). ''Halo'' franchise is comparable to the ''Star Wars'' franchise as it is already considered as the new "Star Wars" for this age (debatable of course). Whatever changes made to the ''Star Wars'' franchise will eventually be made to the ''Halo'' franchise as well. It chimes. It's the natural progression of entertainment franchise. Time will tell. :) — <span style="font-size:14px; font-family:Arial;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span> 10:24, 11 January 2014 (EST) | ::It's an observation: I was merely pointing out one of many possible futures of the ''Halo'' franchise as well as giving out my doubt of Frankie's handling of the ''Halo'' canon (oh, this is more of a criticism than it is a complaint). ''Halo'' franchise is comparable to the ''Star Wars'' franchise as it is already considered as the new "Star Wars" for this age (debatable of course). Whatever changes made to the ''Star Wars'' franchise will eventually be made to the ''Halo'' franchise as well. It chimes. It's the natural progression of entertainment franchise. Time will tell. :) — <span style="font-size:14px; font-family:Arial;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span> 10:24, 11 January 2014 (EST) | ||
:::I agree Subtank. Halo 4 was a clear example of mishandling the Halo universe (and Halo gameplay) with all the inconsistencies and retcons. And it stretches even further with the whole Forerunner saga imo (splitting the Didact in 2, the humans being separate from the Forerunners). I was content with a more realistic story string & continuation of the Halo series but 343i did too much and also deviated towards unrealistic plot lines and science | :::I agree Subtank. Halo 4 was a clear example of mishandling the Halo universe (and Halo gameplay) with all the inconsistencies and retcons. And it stretches even further with the whole Forerunner saga imo (splitting the Didact in 2, the humans being separate from the Forerunners). I was content with a more realistic story string & continuation of the Halo series but 343i did too much and also deviated towards unrealistic plot lines and science fantasy elements imo. And it seems like they may stretch the series thin with those "12" issues of Halo escalation. Not to say I don't like Halo escalation, it looks interesting (I haven't gotten a copy of the issues since I'm waiting for Mortal Dictata which will be my LAST Halo novel purchase). It seems like 343i is milking the series rather than supplementing it. That's why a lot of people said the series should have ended at Halo 3 especially after 343i's poor execution of Halo 4.--'''''[[User:Killamint|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Arial;">Killamint</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Killamint|<font color="Red">Comm</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Killamint|<font color="Black">Files</font>]]''''']</small> 11:48, 11 January 2014 (EST) | ||
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Surprise, surprise! Disney is getting serious with the canon universe of Star Wars. Selected quotes from the op-ed:
| “ | A sci-fi universe with as long a tail as Star Wars can be death for new stories, though. Finding space among the EU to make a mark without being hamstrung by established ideas is difficult, and even keeping the EU somewhat organized is challenging. Its growth has been cancerous—like a tumor, it has no plan and no organization—it simply expands, blindly, as the collective fan engine shovels in new material. | ” |
This would appear to be the route 343i is taking. The hole is getting deeper and deeper. Only time will tell when they'll realize this inevitability.
| “ | Most of the EU is simply layers and layers of garbage. It's filled with thinly veiled Mary Sue characters, ludicrous minutiae, and a ponderous and plodding history (past AND future) of the galaxy. It's creaky under its own weight, and [Leeland Chee]'s pruning is a welcome change. In him, Disney has a person who intimately understands the core elements of what makes Star Wars, Star Wars. | ” |
Unfortunately, the same can't be said with Frankie (imo, anyway). Who can take up the mantle of responsibly ensuring that canon are given coherent, reasonable explanation and within a realistic realm, and not bent for the sake of making sales? I'm not sure anymore.
Comments
TL;DR: EU sucks... sometimes. I strongly suggest reading the article rather than relying on the selected quotes. — subtank 08:29, 11 January 2014 (EST)
- Did you seriously just compare the Star Wars EU to the Halo EU? Dude, Halo is magnificently maintained in comparison. Maybe under Bungie the EU stuff didn't really have much direction (though it did have some), but 343's stuff definitely does. Kilo Five, Forerunner, and Halo 4 were all tied together and complementary, and Initiation and Escalation seem to be leading into potential Halo 5 plot points. They aren't just random stories like the article is referring to about Star Wars. I really don't get what you're complaining about, this is literally the most coherent and quality period of Halo EU.
- Time will tell if the Halo universe becomes too fragmented with too many new secondary characters and too many new plotlines, but I seriously doubt 343's going to make too many mistakes there. Halo 2 was a lesson they will refer to, where too many directions and an unnecessary second point of view did exactly what so many Star Wars novels are guilty of. (Seriously, almost every single one has two or more main characters)--70.70.8.253 10:00, 11 January 2014 (EST)
- It's an observation: I was merely pointing out one of many possible futures of the Halo franchise as well as giving out my doubt of Frankie's handling of the Halo canon (oh, this is more of a criticism than it is a complaint). Halo franchise is comparable to the Star Wars franchise as it is already considered as the new "Star Wars" for this age (debatable of course). Whatever changes made to the Star Wars franchise will eventually be made to the Halo franchise as well. It chimes. It's the natural progression of entertainment franchise. Time will tell. :) — subtank 10:24, 11 January 2014 (EST)
- I agree Subtank. Halo 4 was a clear example of mishandling the Halo universe (and Halo gameplay) with all the inconsistencies and retcons. And it stretches even further with the whole Forerunner saga imo (splitting the Didact in 2, the humans being separate from the Forerunners). I was content with a more realistic story string & continuation of the Halo series but 343i did too much and also deviated towards unrealistic plot lines and science fantasy elements imo. And it seems like they may stretch the series thin with those "12" issues of Halo escalation. Not to say I don't like Halo escalation, it looks interesting (I haven't gotten a copy of the issues since I'm waiting for Mortal Dictata which will be my LAST Halo novel purchase). It seems like 343i is milking the series rather than supplementing it. That's why a lot of people said the series should have ended at Halo 3 especially after 343i's poor execution of Halo 4.--Killamint [Comm|Files] 11:48, 11 January 2014 (EST)