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:But why would there be two RED teams? And why pass off an S-III team as an S-II team? Wouldn't that be awkward when an S-II in RED team hears that hi is apparently on defencive deployment? There'll be too much confusion. This seems more like a case of a brief sentence Halo: Reach being ''partially-retconned''. We should accept that RED team never knew of the Covenant threat until the 30th for ''some reason''. Perhaps they were ordered to go on defencive deployment but Stanforth belayed that order so he could continue with RED flag with a platoon rather than a fireteam. Maybe RED team was involved to only a small extent and never encountered the Covenant, thinking it to be part of a training exercise or an insurgent attack. Or what if RED team being present was part of a game of Chinese whispers and the communique didn't actually mention them? Have you thought about those explanations?-- '''[[User:Forerunner|<font color="blue">Fore</font>]]''[[User talk:Forerunner|<font color="green">run</font>]]''[[Special:Contributions/Forerunner|<font color="red">ner</font>]]''''' 10:31, 5 November 2011 (EDT)
:But why would there be two RED teams? And why pass off an S-III team as an S-II team? Wouldn't that be awkward when an S-II in RED team hears that hi is apparently on defencive deployment? There'll be too much confusion. This seems more like a case of a brief sentence Halo: Reach being ''partially-retconned''. We should accept that RED team never knew of the Covenant threat until the 30th for ''some reason''. Perhaps they were ordered to go on defencive deployment but Stanforth belayed that order so he could continue with RED flag with a platoon rather than a fireteam. Maybe RED team was involved to only a small extent and never encountered the Covenant, thinking it to be part of a training exercise or an insurgent attack. Or what if RED team being present was part of a game of Chinese whispers and the communique didn't actually mention them? Have you thought about those explanations?-- '''[[User:Forerunner|<font color="blue">Fore</font>]]''[[User talk:Forerunner|<font color="green">run</font>]]''[[Special:Contributions/Forerunner|<font color="red">ner</font>]]''''' 10:31, 5 November 2011 (EDT)
"hi?" Also, Red Team WAS on a defensive deployment, defending the MAC generators.  I still think that they were not the same thing, but that doesn't mean I think that it warrants its own page.  It never shows up once in the Halo Series, it's only mentioned once.  Vegerot goes RAWR! [[File:Icon-Vegito2.gif|21px]] [[User:Vegerot|<span style="color:midnightblue; font-weight:bold">Vegerot</span>]] ([[User talk:Vegerot|<span style="color:grey">talk</span>]])  21:36, 5 November 2011 (EDT)!

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The Harvest Guy

Could the Harvest Spartan have been a member of Red Team? As a side note, he probably isn't dead, as only two S-IIs were truly dead before Reach fell, but that's just wishful thinking. --"A government strong enough to give you everything you want...is strong enough to take everything you have." -Thomas Jefferson 16:15, 21 February 2009 (UTC)


Team Omega

What proof specifically is there that shows Team Omega as a part of Red Team, let alone being a Fall of Reach subdivision of Red Team as the article at one point suggested? While Red Team is currently the only known team to have such subdivisions, where is the source that states that to be the case for this particular Team Omega? This needs a major fact-check. --Avatar of Chaos 12:31, 30 April 2009 (UTC)

It doesn't say they were included in the Fall of Reach. We know Blue team wasn't present, as it would have said Blue Team wather than Omega. The fact that Red team splits up into groups and the fact that there are three Red team Spartans AND a sub-division and the naming system kind of points out that Omega is part of Red team.-- Forerunner 15:34, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
Deductive Reasoning. :P-5ub7ank(7alk) 15:36, 2 May 2009 (UTC)
Which makes it an assumption, correct? --Avatar of Chaos 05:06, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
Speculation is allowed in certain circumstances.-- Forerunner 10:59, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
If the speculation is supported heavily by valid sources, yes.-5ub7ank(7alk) 12:03, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
Then the speculation needs to be better integrated into the article, since it claims that Red Team was a 3 person team, but also discusses Team Omega later on and as far as we know the only known Team Omega was the one featured in Halo Wars. If Team Omega was a subdivision of Red Team, what was Jerome's team's designation, what role did Keiichi play in Red Team, if any, as he was present on Arcadia, and what was the actual number of Spartans that comprised Red Team during this period? The related articles and this article need to be addressed in a consistent manner --Avatar of Chaos 17:39, 13 May 2009 (UTC)
I don't see any sourcing for Red Team or Team Omega, could you point out which valid sources there are please? -TheLostJedi 22:09, 21 May 2009 (GMT)

Reversed image

The main image on the top of the main article has one problem, the armor is reverse. Notice the shoulder pads. The Seurity like pad is supposed to be on the right arm. But it appears the image is supposed to be like that, due to the fact that on one of the guns you can see "UNSC" written. ImmortalJoshua

I noticed it too, so came to this page. After watching the cutscenes from Halo Wars again, the larger pad is always on the right shoulder of the Spartans. I'm not sure where this image was taken from but when the Warthog slides in the jungle, like in the current main image for Red Team, the shoulder pads are how they should be. So it wasn't taken from a Halo Wars cutscene atleast. It's possible that it was taken from an earlier ViDoc or other promotional material which is now outdated. Regardless, you're right, the image is wrong. -TheLostJedi 22:24, 21 May 2009 (GMT)

Team Delta's 3 Unknown Spartans?

I was thinking about it, and maybe the 3 spartans in Halo Wars, Jerome-092, Alice-130 and Douglas-042 could be the "3 Unknown Spartans."? --Yugiohtipman34 04:29, January 6, 2010 (UTC) Possibly, but I doubt it.--Sgt.T.N.Biscuits 04:57, January 6, 2010 (UTC)

Red Team in New Alexandria

Why is it mentioned that Red team was in New Alexandria on August 23rd? It seems pretty clear to me, based on all the other fiction, that the Red team mentioned by Jun is different from the Red Team of Spartan-IIs. Especially with the re-issued books and data drops from Waypoint, it makes no sense that a Spartan-II team would be deployed to Reach when knowledge of the battles was kept from them so they could concentrate on RED FLAG.—This unsigned comment was made by Toa Freak (talkcontribs). Please sign your posts with ~~~~

Yeah, I think it's pretty obvious that the term Red Team can be used more than once throughout the whole entire Galaxy. Vegerot goes RAWR! File:Icon-Vegito2.gif Vegerot (talk) 08:17, 2 November 2011 (EDT)

Take note that RED team being on defensive deployment was rumour. Further, I feel that ONI would avoid having two elite SPARTAN units with the same name; that's probably why Bungie desided to go with "Noble team" as opposed to "Blue team".-- Forerunner 13:00, 2 November 2011 (EDT)

Not just rumor. Kat herself hacked "senior-level communiques" to tell Jun about it, and Carter's angry reaction while reprimanding her this suggests it was true. Still, we're not sure it's the same Red Team, but a Red Team was definitely involved. Tuckerscreator(stalk) 15:07, 2 November 2011 (EDT)

Of course they wouldn't, who would be that stupid? Vegerot goes RAWR! File:Icon-Vegito2.gif Vegerot (talk) 19:54, 3 November 2011 (EDT)

Red Team was much larger than just the three Spartans in Halo Wars. Tuckerscreator(stalk) 20:02, 3 November 2011 (EDT)

Yes, but I'm saying that the Red Team mentioned was a Teams like Echo or Gauntlet, and not comprised of any known Spartan-IIs. The Adjunct to "Fall of Reach" and the data drops pretty much confirms that none of the Spartan-IIs taking part in RED FLAG knew of the attack on Reach until August 30. The Red Team mentioned in Halo Reach should have it's own page. Toa Freak 04:49, 5 November 2011 (EDT)

But why would there be two RED teams? And why pass off an S-III team as an S-II team? Wouldn't that be awkward when an S-II in RED team hears that hi is apparently on defencive deployment? There'll be too much confusion. This seems more like a case of a brief sentence Halo: Reach being partially-retconned. We should accept that RED team never knew of the Covenant threat until the 30th for some reason. Perhaps they were ordered to go on defencive deployment but Stanforth belayed that order so he could continue with RED flag with a platoon rather than a fireteam. Maybe RED team was involved to only a small extent and never encountered the Covenant, thinking it to be part of a training exercise or an insurgent attack. Or what if RED team being present was part of a game of Chinese whispers and the communique didn't actually mention them? Have you thought about those explanations?-- Forerunner 10:31, 5 November 2011 (EDT)

"hi?" Also, Red Team WAS on a defensive deployment, defending the MAC generators. I still think that they were not the same thing, but that doesn't mean I think that it warrants its own page. It never shows up once in the Halo Series, it's only mentioned once. Vegerot goes RAWR! File:Icon-Vegito2.gif Vegerot (talk) 21:36, 5 November 2011 (EDT)!