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==halo 2 Marines?==
==New image==
Why do they not show halo 2 marines???? -- 71.234.43.57 23:23, 23 October 2006
I think it's time for a new infobox image. Anyone have any suggestions? I briefly looked and I feel like [[:File:H2A-Outskirts-Johnson and pilots.jpg|this one]] could be decent, though I would prefer one with more Marines and maybe some of their vehicles. I will continue looking. --[[User:NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">'''NightHammer'''</span>]]''<sup>[[User talk:NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">(talk)</span>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">(contribs)</span>]]</sup>'' 21:34, 4 January 2016 (EST)
:Is that better ?  --[[User:Climax Viod|Climax Viod]] 10:49, 24 October 2006 (UTC)
::Thanks you should add more pics of them though. I would be intrested in editing this Wikia. Anyway I can join???? You could find a few more images on them. im going to do alot of random pages and post my ideas so ill be back here soon. {{unsigned|71.234.43.57}}
:::Ok, Sure you can join if thats what you ment --[[User:Climax Viod|Climax Viod]] 15:33, 3 November 2006 (UTC)
::::Yes I wish to join And help i do i register an account and thats it or is there more . ill register an account in the mean time. -- 71.234.43.57 03:04, 4 November 2006
:::::Yes Join you don't have to pass any tests or go through any hazing rituals.  Just join and help this site grow! -- [[User:Yamanba|Yamanba]] 11:59, 4 November 2006 (UTC)


Does anybody want to make a list of Marine quotes?  There are some funny ones that I've heard in different situations, and it'd be cool to have a list
: It could definitely use a change. Personally, though, if we're looking for them wearing the armor seen in Halo Wars and Halo 2 Anniversary, [http://img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20100524195050/halofanon/images/8/80/UNSC_armour_Halo_Wars.jpg this one] is a better representation. However, I actually think it'd be a better idea to get a more recent, post-war interpretation of the Marines, like the ones on Infinity - something like [http://vignette4.wikia.nocookie.net/halo/images/f/fb/H4_Marines_Epilogue.png/revision/latest?cb=20121211180648&path-prefix=es this], without the blur obviously - but there aren't really any decent images of the Marines going around right now. --[[User:Grim Looters|Grim Looters]] ([[User talk:Grim Looters|talk]]) 08:36, 5 March 2016 (EST)


Yeah, today I heard a quote from one of the Marines in Metropolis about Starbucks.
::[[:File:H4-UNSCMarineVariants.jpg|This one]] with its background removed is my suggestion. [[User:Imrane-117|Imrane-117]] ([[User talk:Imrane-117|talk]]) 08:42, 5 March 2016 (EST)


I read that marine quotes should be added so I I logged in and added them I will be adding some more as soon as i can play halo and hear them until then i put the ones i remembered -- [[User:Mendoza|Mendoza]] 1:59, 8 july 2007 (UTC)
:::The quality isn't too good on that one. I wish we had an image that isn't a scan. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 11:56, 6 March 2016 (EST)


==Change in Armour==
:::: Oh, would you look at that, the quality of the images I linked messed up. Nice. Anyway, can we have some sort of consensus here? I'm getting real bored of the current image. --[[User:Grim Looters|Grim Looters]] ([[User talk:Grim Looters|talk]]) 22:35, 11 April 2016 (EDT)


Could the Marines in Halo 2 be the Earth Marines and the ones from Halo 1 are the Marines from Reach or Sigma Octanus IV or something? Because I really would like to understand why they changed the armour. User:Joshua 02
::::: I make the assumption that your silence is telling me it's good to go. Well, I'm changing it to the image of the Marines in Halo wars - the one in the foreground with the M90, the one in the back with the MA5B, wearing the brown heavily-plated combat armour in the opening cutscene. I think it better represents the Marines for two reasons - A) They provably have used that set of armor for the majority of their known operational history, including in the Insurrection, Human-Covenant War, and up to the New Pheonix incident in Spartan Strike - well into the postwar period. B) The M52B armor we see now was only used towards the end of the Human-Covenant War and ceased to be in service afterwards, as far as we know. It probably evolved into the postwar designs we see on Infinity, as I'd imagine it would've been experimentally manufactured to test durability against Covenant weapons or something. Change it again if you like, just don't change it back to that blasted Halo 3 thing again. --[[User:Grim Looters|Grim Looters]] ([[User talk:Grim Looters|talk]]) 19:31, 21 April 2016 (EDT)


:That might be right or they upgraded thier amour with thier weapons --[[User:Climax Viod|Climax Viod]] 18:55, 15 November 2006 (UTC)
:::::: Changed it again to a picture from the epilogue of Halo 4, which I think is a much better representation of them in the postwar era. Sorry for changing it so sporadically. --[[User:Grim Looters|Grim Looters]] ([[User talk:Grim Looters|talk]]) 19:46, 21 April 2016 (EDT)


::you know, my opinion is that, its differnt statuses.. like, the elites and their different colored armor, on earth you have loads of standardized marines, maybe these were just marines (in halo 1) but with specialized ballistic armor. User:Starliner
== Personnel ==


:::I think that the armour from Halo: Combat Evolved is better because the armour looks like it probably provides more protection. And it looks awesomer because of the colours and the eye-piece thingy! :D [[User:Kerek|Kerek]] 06:56, 24 February 2007 (UTC)
Just a question, why dont we add a list of UNSC marines? We done it with the naval personnel, ODST. Spartans. Yes that would be a miles long list but at least why not?
::::Well, contrary to video game ideas, most soldiers have many subtle differences in their armor. The developmers were likely just taking advantage of improved graphics potential. -[[User:ED|ED]] 19:57, 15 March 2007 (UTC)


I hear that the Halo 3 armor will be black and based on ODST colors. -Blemo


Does anyone notice the metal plates on the marines armor in Halo: Combat Evolved make the same sound as the hunters armor in Halo: Combat Evolved.  [[User:Fork|Fork]] 23:21, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
Same question applies for UNSC Army. [[User:Fred LTJG S104|Fred LTJG S104]] ([[User talk:Fred LTJG S104|talk]]) 03:46, January 21, 2020 (EST)
 
:I agree. Link added to their respective category pages. [[User:BaconShelf|BaconShelf]] ([[User talk:BaconShelf|talk]]) 04:26, January 21, 2020 (EST)
Yea I noticed that too, but it might just be Bungie being lazy and using a sound file twice instead of making a new one. [[User:Capt Bartlett|Capt Bartlett]] 16:17, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
 
The Marines in Halo 1 are ODSTs (thanks to Halo: The Flood for letting us know) without their black vacuum-safe Space-fairing suits. So, that may be a part of it...
--[[User:MLG Cheehwawa]]
21:46, 30 May 2007 (UTC)
 
The ODST look might not be wat the marines look like in the final version becuase bungie said that there has been alot of changes since that rumor poped up so i wouldnt get your hopes up [[User:Mendoza|Mendoza]] 1:48, 10 july 2007
 
Actually, if you look closer, it's the same armor, exept in Halo 2, they have a Flak Vest over it, a Fatige over it, removed the eyepatch, and painted it green.
 
First, not all the Marines stationed aboard the ''Pillar of Autumn'' were ODSTs. Also, in ''The Flood'', the Marines were caught off guard so the marines would have deployed into the lifepods in various states of dress. The first and third books also talk about how the ''Autumn'''s original mission was to capture a Prophet aboard a Covenant ship. Thus, the marines were prepared for a long voyage and are dressed in standard pattern uniforms. What is the point of wearing OD/Woodland Camouflage fatigues aboard a Human ship and especially a Covenant ship with purple walls? *[[User:SII-008-li|asian sensation]] 04:33, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
 
== Asians? ==
 
I dont remember seeing any asian marines. All I remember were whites, blacks, and hispanics.--[[User:JohnSpartan117|JohnSpartan117]] 02:43, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
:Well the Marines are all modeled on Bungie staff and there are quite a few of Asian descent at Bungie so there are probably some in the game. -- [[User:Yamanba|Yamanba]] 10:21, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
::Hmm, they probably are asian faces, but with english or American accents...And I just didnt really notice their faces.--[[User:JohnSpartan117|JohnSpartan117]] 22:48, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
:::Take a close look at the marines in Halo 1. A lot of them (especially the ones in armor) have asian features on their faces, such as the slanted eyes typical of Japanese. -[[User:ED|ED]] 23:10, 25 October 2006 (UTC)
::::Well, actually...its common in several countries in Asia....--[[User:JohnSpartan117|JohnSpartan117]] 05:06, 26 October 2006 (UTC)
 
I'm Azn! And also a Marine! Azn Marine!
 
 
One of the wounded marines thats resting against a wall on the beginning of The Pillar of Autumn level is asian. Most of the marines that have their full armor (Helmet, Chest Plate, Leg armor etc) are asian as well
 
==Add to the trivia!==
 
Did you know the merines in the Halo 2 demo trailer say the same phrases as in metropolis.  Why isn't this added anywhere?{{unsigned|Leckgolo434}}
 
== Halo 3 Marines ==
 
The new marines look like they had an upgrade on their armour, they seem to have the same aspects of the original marine armour back in the first halo.The torso of a marine has the same similar metal plating of the original marine but the new armour has more detail.But there seems to be no change when it comes to the A.I of the marines shown in the [[Halo 3 ViDoc: Et Tu, Brute?]] -- [[User:Blaze Strike]] 02:49, 25 December 2006
 
By just glancing briefly at the picture of the Marine, I think that the Halo 3 Marines are Halo:CE Marines, but have black armor. -[[User:Blemo|Blemo]] 05:54, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
 
== Rankless dudes ==
 
*"Doc" Valdez
*Parsons
*Suzuki
*Al-Thani
*Dawkins
*Yutrzenika
 
I think they are all [[Private]]'s. Its just a hunch. Any one else?--[[User:ryanngreenday|<font color="red">ryan</font>]]''[[User talk:Ryanngreenday/Archive|<font color="blue">n</font>]]''[[User talk:Ryanngreenday|<font color="green">greenday</font>]] 02:09, 29 December 2006 (UTC)
:It would be nice to speculate that, but we can't speculate on Halopedia. -[[User:ED|ED]] 19:58, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
 
''The Flood'' states that "Doc" is a navy corpsman attached to the ODST battalion aboard the ''Autumn''. As the UNSC Navy/Marine Corps are based on the US counterparts, "Doc" wouldn't even be a marine. Secondly, I believe that corpsmen are ensigns, O-1s, but I'm not quite sure
 
== Equipment ==
 
I've added up a list of the combat equipment the Marines use, as well as the weapons they use in the games. please dont remove it, but if you can add to it, please do! -- [[User:Specops306|SpecOps306]] 20:01, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
 
:were does it say the names of the equipment ref? - [[User:J!MMY8806|J!MMY8806]] 20:30, 29 January 2007 (UTC)
 
::Look around in the campaign - those boxes are there for a reason. this isnt even the whole list - not by a long shot. have a look around the [[Outskirts]] and [[Metropolis]] levels, look at the boxes scattered around. i doubt they're there for the civilians... -- [[User:Specops306|SpecOps306]] 00:15, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
 
:::okay yeah ive seen them, i just figured that you may of got the names from somewre else kk mate thaks, [[User:J!MMY8806|J!MMY8806]] 15:52, 30 January 2007 (UTC)
::::Cite the sources on the article, please. -[[User:ED|ED]] 19:59, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
 
== Ranks ==
 
Should we have the Marine Corps Rank table on this page? i'm pretty sure that would be a good idea...and if Major Silva is a Major, then why is he leading a Battalion? i thought they were headed by Colonels? Or are the Marines different to the army in that area too?
 
I agree it would be a good idea. [[User:Kami-Sama]]
 
Battalions are led by MAJORS, regiments (group of battalions) are led by COLONEL's!  [[User:Fork|Fork]] 23:28, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
:They haven't been entirely clear on if the rank scheme has changed since 2007. --<b>[[User:ED|<font color="000000">ED</font>]]<sub>([[User talk:ED|<font color="000000">talk</font>]])</sub><sup>[http://halofanon.wikia.com/wiki/Halo:_Shock_Front<font color="000000">(shockfront)]</font></sup></b> 16:47, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
 
== EMP ==
 
Emergency Medical Personnel? the guys are taking the fight to the enemy - not tending the wounded. Its more likely to stnd for Electro-Magnetic Pulse, referring the the effects of plasma as it hits the armour. -- [[User:Specops306|SpecOps306]] 19:14, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
 
:Molten metal does not release an EMP. Of course, being medical personnel with that uniform doesn't make sense, but it makes more sense than electromagnetic pulse. [[User:24.251.125.185|24.251.125.185]] 19:27, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
 
::Actually, I think the article's just poorly written, and it means the fatigues, not the armor, because the image caption says medical uniform. [[User:24.251.125.185|24.251.125.185]] 19:32, 17 March 2007 (UTC)
 
:::Actually, I meant the plasma ITSELF gave off the EMP. but i will concede that it does not, in fact, mean the armour. but the US Marines, which the [[UNSC Marine Corps| UNSC Marines]] are based on, generally dont train medics, leaving that to Navy Corpsmen. -- [[User:Specops306|SpecOps306]] 02:29, 24 March 2007 (UTC)
 
Yes, but that may have changed. I don't know that UNSC Marines are based entirely on USMC either. -- [[User:Manticore|<b><span style="color: black">Manticore</span></b>]] [[Image:Fleet Admiral.jpg|25px]] [[User talk:Manticore|<sup><span style="color: black">Talk</span></sup>]]<sup> | </sup>[[Special:Contributions/Manticore|<sup><span style="color: black">CSV</span></sup>]] 09:49, 6 April 2007 (UTC)
 
I have always thought they were just marines in fatigues not Emp I meen each time i play halo I could never find anything so I think the EMP thing is just made up. -- [[user:Mendoza|Mendoza]] 2:41, 8 july 2007
 
==Goatee Marine?==
[[Image:343GS-Marine Run.jpg]]
 
Who is this marine?
 
The Goatee Marine is first seen with ODST armor and a bandana in the Halo:CE 2003 E3 Trailer. One of the Marines refered to him as McClease. This Marine can be seen as three character models: the ODST McClease, the "Bandana" McClease, and the McClease without the bandana, like in the picture. -[[User:Blemo|Blemo]]
 
== Ackerson ==
 
I'm removing Ackerson from the list, because he's actually in the [[UNSC Army]] -- [[User:Specops306|SpecOps306]] 02:54, 2 April 2007 (UTC)
 
== Helljumpers? ==
 
Why is there a picture of helljumpers in the article?  They are ODST's not marines.  That picture does not belong in the article as far as I am concerned.  [[User:Dockman|<font color="redrrdgfdtpifhghg658776543230997hygfdd654nbnb">OAR</font>]][[User Talk: Dockman|<font color="#QPWOEIRUTYAHSJDKFLLZMXNCBVGFTR">LOCK</font>]] 18:16, 3 April 2007 (UTC)
 
they are a marine speacial ops User:Kami-Sama
 
I agree, the ODSTs are a volunteer-only, specialised outfit of Marines, leave them there but keep it short and add a link to their own page. [[User:Capt Bartlett|Capt Bartlett]] 16:26, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
:Yes. --<b>[[User:ED|<font color="000000">ED</font>]]<sub>([[User talk:ED|<font color="000000">talk</font>]])</sub><sup>[http://halofanon.wikia.com/wiki/Halo:_Shock_Front<font color="000000">(shockfront)]</font></sup></b> 16:46, 4 April 2007 (UTC)
 
== Wrong status ==
 
Well, I sugest that we make a graph for the ''damned'' list of marines(sry for that word)--[[Image:Hunter large.jpg|35px]] [[User:R1e2u3b4e5n6|<font color="6633FF">never ending-summer]]</font><sup>[[User talk:R1e2u3b4e5n6|<font color="6633FF">My personal COM chanel</font>]]</sup><sup>AKA R1e2u3b4e5n6</sup> 04:19, 21 June 2007 (UTC)
 
== Motto ==
 
In Halo: The Flood, it said that the Marine motto was "semper fi", but it's in conflict as the author had several conflicting things in the book. So should this be added, or not?  --[[User:MagickaMaster|MagickaMaster]] 03:47, 25 July 2007 (UTC)
 
== Relations to the "Future Force Warrior"-Project? ==
 
I just stumbled upon the [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Future_Force_Warrior Future Force Warrior-Project] by the US Army, and it has similarities to the Marines of Halo (with this one-eye screen, e.g.) - maybe something for the Trivia?
--[[User:Sphärenkern|Sphärenkern]] 23:30, 26 July 2007 (UTC)
 
== UESC ==
 
Would it be pedantic to point out that, in Halo 2 they are called the United Earth Space Corps as their real name, or is it mentioned in the article? [[Image:HalfJaw03.jpg|20px]] '''[[User:Specops306|<font color=purple>Kora ‘Morhekee]]</font>''' ''[[User talk:Specops306|<font color=black>The Battle-Net</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Specops306|<font color=purple>My Conquests.</font>]]'' 02:14, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
 
**Lord Hood used a lot of different names in Halo 2. UNSC Marine Corps is the correct name. [[User:CommanderTony|CommanderTony]] 02:24, 5 August 2007 (UTC)
 
== General Comments ==
Let's see... Decent coverage of known UNSC Marine Corps operational history. Still a few typos though. Definite POV trouble. Varies between In Universe and Out Universe commentary. Some possible gameplay features are taken as fact. Some assumptions are made. For example: Truth and Reconciliation subsection says the halls were wandered for fifteen minutes and that "After losing a significant amount of soldiers". I, for one, did not lose a man. Nevertheless, a promising article. Needs work but what doesn't? ''Zaludt!'' [[User:Karohalva|Karohalva of the Unneeded Criticism]]
 
:I'm not sure about the In and Out Universe POV's, because since this is a gaming and story wikia that isnt as negative a thing as it is on Wikipedia. But every article will always need improvement - its the nature of this kind of site. Thanks for your assessment. '''[[User:Specops306|<font color=purple>Specops306]]</font>''', '''''[[User talk:Specops306|<font color=blue>Kora]]</font> [[Special:Contributions/Specops306|<font color=purple>'Morhek</font>]]''''' 23:28, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
 
== Operational History ==
 
Should we put in the UNSC Marine Corps actions before the Human-Covenant War?[[User:Sgt.johnson|AJ]] 18:38, 11 August 2007 (UTC)
 
== Master Chief's limited army ==
 
Throughout the campaign if you keep your originals alive reinforcements don't show, prisoners are pre-dead, and any marines you come across die instantly.  Has anyone been able to figure out the maximum number of marines the chief can have at any given time.  I've seen marines die 'randomly' because Johnson joined the group.  Would it be relevant to add such a section to the combat section?

Latest revision as of 05:26, January 21, 2020

New image[edit]

I think it's time for a new infobox image. Anyone have any suggestions? I briefly looked and I feel like this one could be decent, though I would prefer one with more Marines and maybe some of their vehicles. I will continue looking. --NightHammer(talk)(contribs) 21:34, 4 January 2016 (EST)

It could definitely use a change. Personally, though, if we're looking for them wearing the armor seen in Halo Wars and Halo 2 Anniversary, this one is a better representation. However, I actually think it'd be a better idea to get a more recent, post-war interpretation of the Marines, like the ones on Infinity - something like this, without the blur obviously - but there aren't really any decent images of the Marines going around right now. --Grim Looters (talk) 08:36, 5 March 2016 (EST)
This one with its background removed is my suggestion. Imrane-117 (talk) 08:42, 5 March 2016 (EST)
The quality isn't too good on that one. I wish we had an image that isn't a scan. --Jugus (Talk | Contribs) 11:56, 6 March 2016 (EST)
Oh, would you look at that, the quality of the images I linked messed up. Nice. Anyway, can we have some sort of consensus here? I'm getting real bored of the current image. --Grim Looters (talk) 22:35, 11 April 2016 (EDT)
I make the assumption that your silence is telling me it's good to go. Well, I'm changing it to the image of the Marines in Halo wars - the one in the foreground with the M90, the one in the back with the MA5B, wearing the brown heavily-plated combat armour in the opening cutscene. I think it better represents the Marines for two reasons - A) They provably have used that set of armor for the majority of their known operational history, including in the Insurrection, Human-Covenant War, and up to the New Pheonix incident in Spartan Strike - well into the postwar period. B) The M52B armor we see now was only used towards the end of the Human-Covenant War and ceased to be in service afterwards, as far as we know. It probably evolved into the postwar designs we see on Infinity, as I'd imagine it would've been experimentally manufactured to test durability against Covenant weapons or something. Change it again if you like, just don't change it back to that blasted Halo 3 thing again. --Grim Looters (talk) 19:31, 21 April 2016 (EDT)
Changed it again to a picture from the epilogue of Halo 4, which I think is a much better representation of them in the postwar era. Sorry for changing it so sporadically. --Grim Looters (talk) 19:46, 21 April 2016 (EDT)

Personnel[edit]

Just a question, why dont we add a list of UNSC marines? We done it with the naval personnel, ODST. Spartans. Yes that would be a miles long list but at least why not?


Same question applies for UNSC Army. Fred LTJG S104 (talk) 03:46, January 21, 2020 (EST)

I agree. Link added to their respective category pages. BaconShelf (talk) 04:26, January 21, 2020 (EST)