Editing Talk:SRS99C-S2 AM sniper rifle

==Untitled==
need a picture of a Barret M82, strong resemblance to the AMB. I don't know how to add images.[[User talk:Agent Tasmania|Agent Tasmania]] 06:01, September 20, 2009 (UTC)

== Suggested Merge ==

I am suggesting that this article be renamed "S2 AM Sniper Rifle" or "SRS99-S2 AM Sniper Rifle', and merge the articles about the SRS99C and the SRS99D. They are just two variants of the same sniper rifle, and do not deserve seperate articles any more then the M16A2 deserves a seperate article from the M16 article on the real wikipedia. [[User:Justin Time|Justin Time]] 02:43, 31 July 2007 (UTC)
:same goes for the BR55 and BR55HB SR.[[User talk:Agent Tasmania|Agent Tasmania]] 05:54, September 20, 2009 (UTC)

== Super Sniper ==

File:Sniper.jpg|thumb]]:''Note: this text was moved from the "super sniper" article as a result of a merge.''

{{FactOrFictionResolved|07:25, 19 October 2006|[[User:Vlad3163]]|Im not the one who disputed the page, but its just a normal sniper with more than normal ammo. If it killed Hunters in one shot from the front, then I would consider it a "super sniper".  Just because the level designers gave you 40 more rounds on a mission where the entire point of the first half of the mission is to snipe, doesnt mean that one sniper deserves its own page.|02:50, 3 December 2006 (UTC)}}

:*I did this, I created this article. --[[User:JohnSpartan117|JohnSpartan117]] 01:59, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

::*Dispute? I undisputed this article. Whoever did it, didnt even have the balls to say why. Seriously! Play the damn mission and see!--[[User:JohnSpartan117|JohnSpartan117]] 06:03, 19 October 2006 (UTC)

:*A new name then?Ok...if the name is the problem, just rename it to "Extra Ammo Sniper". --[[User:JohnSpartan117|JohnSpartan117]] 03:32, 20 October 2006 (UTC)

::*Ok, let's think about this for a second. The Sniper wasn't actually carrying any more extra ammo-it still had just four shots in it each time. JOHN was the one with a little extra ammo. So maybe he used some EB Green to tape a little extra on himself, or we could go for a stretch and say one of the Marines held some for him. The gun itself is not special in any way. [[User:InnerRayg|InnerRayg]]

Is the halo1 sniper rifle and its halo2 counterpart the same? They can't be for instance, i think i heared the ammo amount you could carry was different (possible resise of ammo, or due to mc's new suit), also 4 definent there is '''NO''' night vision on the halo2 1.
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==Quad Shot==
Isn't that telling people how to cheat. [[User:Yazelflech|Yazelflech]]

== Flood: It is completely useless against the Flood in Halo: Combat Evolved. ==

It's not COMPLETELY useless. 99 shots will kill a Flood on Legendary. I'd call that useless, but not completely. [[Special:Contributions/216.222.183.233|216.222.183.233]] 07:59, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

:For all intents and purposes, it is completely useless. You don't even have the ammo capacity to squeeze off 99 shots, let alone that much time to do so before you're charged and overwhelmed (assuming you're at close to medium range). <div style="font-variant:small-caps"><b>[[User:Smoke.|<font color="#666666">Smoke</font>]]</b></div> 11:25, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

== 'Snipers don't do that' ==

The quote given is correct; the suggestion was to add a looping animation triggered by a timer if the weapon was scoped and then left. Snipers don't fiddle with their scope in the field for no reason while looking down it. The 'proof' given in the claim the statement is wrong states that in specific situations, a sniper might make adjustments to a scope in the field, if there was a good reason to. This doesn't refute the statement; there's never any recon data given, so no way to adjust with it in mind, and since the scope is impossible to 'off' there's no argument for readjustment. McLees is right; in the situation in Halo, a sniper would never adjust their scope.

It can only be said that if McLees' quote is read in a ridiculously over-precise manner it is not technically true of a series of variables which aren't in the game and thus he had no reason to be talking about because they would only be present when a marksman was engaging a series of pre-scouted targets, as opposed to a sniper engaging targets of opportunity. [[User talk:Evil Tim|Evil Tim]] 09:09, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

:You said that the settings couldn't be offed. Here's what was meant by that: Suppose the wind direction or speed changes. Boom, your settings on your telescopic sights are now off and you need to readjust it. I do see your point, and now that you explained it a bit more clearly, I understand why you removed it. You should've brought the matter here first, or explained here why you removed it when you did; sometimes the edit summary isn't enough. <b>[[User:Smoke.|<span style="color:Gray; font-weight:bold; font-family:Tahoma Small Cap">Smoke</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Smoke.|<span style="color:Gray; font-weight:bold; font-family:Tahoma Small Cap">Sound off!</span>]]</sup></b> 22:07, 14 June 2009 (UTC)

== Power ==

Just wondering but is the sniper rifle in halo:CE rediculously more powerful than that of halo 2? A zealot in halo 1 and an ultra in halo 2 supposedly have the same shield strength, but a zealot in halo 1 can be killed with two sniper headshots even on legendary. Halo 2 requires 4 on an ultra. It isn't in the article that i know of.
[[User talk:Quakeomaniac|Quakeomaniac]] 04:57, 23 August 2009 (UTC)

:This is one of those cases where the game doesn't totally match up with "reality". Yes, the sniper rifle is clearly less powerful in Halo 2. In Halo:CE a body shot could kill virtually all Grunts and even Minor Elites on any difficulty except legendary. However, although in gameplay it is less powerful, it still fires the same bullets at the same velocity. It's just a gameplay change, not a change within the Halo universe. --[[File:Emblem 1.jpg|20px]][[User:Rusty-112|<font color="Blue">'''Rusty'''</font>]][[User:Rusty-112|<font color="Red">'''-'''</font>]][[User:Rusty-112|<font color="Blue">'''112'''</font>]] 18:05, 23 August 2009 (UTC)
:Not quite the same velocity, the barrel has been shortened and as a rule of thumb, a longer barrel lets the propelleant have more effect increasing velocity and range, same goes in reverse. but the reduction wouldn't be as dramatic as it is in the games.[[User talk:Agent Tasmania|Agent Tasmania]] 05:59, September 20, 2009 (UTC)

That makes sense, the sniper rifle was a bit overpowered in halo 1, killing major elites even in one shot on heroic. Most weapons just seem to have been weakened in the second game, or perhaps the shield strengths are indeed different. Thanks for the info. [[User talk:Quakeomaniac|Quakeomaniac]] 21:55, 24 August 2009 (UTC)

I would like to add a little tidbit related to my first post on this topic. From some experimentation, only zealots with plasma rifles go down in two shots, a zealot with a sword requires 3... perhaps a subdivision of zealot ranks? [[User talk:Quakeomaniac|Quakeomaniac]] 01:34, September 5, 2009 (UTC)
:that would make tactical sence for the swords shields to be amped to help them closse in on enemies.[[User talk:Agent Tasmania|Agent Tasmania]] 05:59, September 20, 2009 (UTC)


== Resemblance ==

I noticed that the 99C-S2 sniper rifle has a strong resemblance to the E-5s sniper rifle from Star Wars, just without the bi pod and clip.--[[User talk:Darth Malice the Destroyer|Darth Malice the Destroyer]] 00:26, September 24, 2009 (UTC)

== Random thing ==

Is it just me, or does the sniper rifle sound exactly like the sniper rifle from Ratchet & Clank: Up Your Arsenal? I've listened to both, and they sound exactly alike when firing. Should it be added to trivia?
:They don't sound alike... --[[User:Tiku-Orava|<span style="color:blue">'''Tiku-Orava'''</span>]] 11:40, July 20, 2010 (UTC)

== Halo wars? ==

who put useable on Halo Wars?


there isnt a sniper rifle on halo wars[[User talk:Jay96|Jay96]] 14:53, July 22, 2010 (UTC)

The rebel sniper unit uses one.  [[User:FatalSnipe117|<span style="color:purple">'''Que'''</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/FatalSnipe117|<span style="color:red">'''Sera'''</span>]], [[User talk:FatalSnipe117|<span style="color:orange">'''Sera'''</span>]] 15:32, July 22, 2010 (UTC)

== AMB? ==
Where did the Bravo (B) part of Halo 2-era S2-AM come from? Just curious. Also, I believe all the sniper rifle articles should be merged under Sniper Rifle System 99 seeing as each sniper rifle is some variant of the traditional SRS99.{{Unsigned|BlueTwo}}
:I think it was implied out of Ghost of Onyx; Page 204, ''"Within was a new SRS99C sniper rifle. She dissembled it, cleaned each part, applied graphite lubricant, and reassembled the gun with mechanical precision."'' I omitted the Oracle-N part as it is an extra attachment and not part of the standard SRS99.— <span style="font-size:16px; font-family:OrbitronMedium;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span> 04:12, 4 August 2011 (EDT)

::Okay, I remember that part from the novel. But I think we need more to go on than just implications. What about the ''Halo 2'' game manual? What does it say? Does it have AMB part of the weapon designation? Does anyone know? --[[User:Xamikaze330|Xamikaze330]] ([[User talk:Xamikaze330|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Xamikaze330|contribs]]) 12:33, 27 December 2012 (EST)Xamikaze330

:::Again, AMB was implied out of Ghost of Onyx and no where else. The Halo 2 manual refers the weapon as the S2 AM rifle, just like Halo 1's manual.— <span style="font-size:14px; font-family:Arial;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span>  07:28, 30 December 2012 (EST)

==The SRS-99C S2AM in ''Halo Anniversary''==

I noticed recently that neither this article, nor the article on the SRS-99 AM sniper rifle has virtually nothing, no information whatsoever, on the sniper rifle model used in ''Halo: Combat Evolved Anniversary'', neither articles said anything about whether the sniper rifle model looked like the SRS-99 AM, or even something remotely similar to the SRS-99D S2AM in ''Halo 3''. I mean this is ''Halo: Combat Evolved'' remastered, so things like the M90 CAWS shotgun looks more like the M45 Tactical Shotgun, or more specifically, the M45E, and the MA5B looks aesthetically similar to the MA5C in ''Halo 3'', except it has a larger magazine size of 60 rather than 32, the Plasma Rifle looks the way it did in ''Halo: Reach'', but where is the model for the SRS-99C? There is no information on this. I think the Trivia section should be added with that new little tidbit of data, or else a new section should be made about changes made between the original ''Halo: Combat Evolved'' and ''Halo: Combat Evolved Anniversary''. --[[User talk:Xamikaze330|Xamikaze330]] 12:20, 23 November 2011 (EST)Xamikaze330
:Refer to my comment on visuals in Talk:Type-25 Directed Energy Rifle.— <span style="font-size:16px; font-family:OrbitronMedium;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span> 14:10, 23 November 2011 (EST)

== Split the article ==

There are two variants of of this rifle shown on this page, both with introductory paragraphs and infoboxes. Why not just split the article into articles about the two variants on this page? What's the point of having two articles in one?--'''''[[Help:User Levels|<span style="color:green">Commander</span>]]''''' [[User:Halofan1234|<span style="color:red">Halofan1234</span>]] (''[[User talk:Halofan1234|<span style="color:purple">I say</span>]]'' ''[[Special:Contributions/Halofan1234|<span style="color:purple">the cabal</span>]]'' ''[[Special:Editcount/Halofan1234|<span style"color:purple">does not exist</span>]]'') 22:45, 29 November 2011 (EST)

:This ''used'' to be two articles. We merged them back then, and it seems like we were too lazy to make the Halo 2 variant written more like a variant. Their relationship are like the M45 and the M45E. "When I joined Halopedia, we didn't have any fancy schmancy two variants in one single page, we had two pages! Two pages, and a disambiguation! And we deleted that disambiguation!" —[[User:Spartan331|<span style="color:silver;">S331</span>]] [[File:Bubbleshieldhud.svg|14px]]<sub>(The anti-[[UserProfile:Spartan331|social]]  [[Special:Contributions/Spartan331|contributor]] who [[User talk:Spartan331|talks]] too little.)</sub> 23:01, 29 November 2011 (EST)

::[[User:Subtank/IRC|Quoted]]. :P — <span style="font-size:16px; font-family:OrbitronMedium;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span> 06:58, 30 November 2011 (EST)

== Citation needed ==

Per above, I've been looking for more sources to improve the article since it's lacking citations. Instead, I came across something different.

I am not sure where the AMB variant was first mentioned. According to wiki logs, it cited the Ghosts of Onyx. However, that source only describes the new rifle as a new rifle, not as a new variant. It was then implied in 2007 that the rifle in H2 is indeed the same one in Ghosts of Onyx even though the description is really vague. Arguably, it can be said the H2 rifle is indeed a variant (since it is aesthetically different from the H1 rifle) but the designation is not revealed in any source (thus, it can be assumed that AMB is a fan-title) and that it is not the same rifle used in Ghosts of Onyx (since the description seems to imply that Linda had a new rifle to replace her old rifle for her next mission).— <span style="font-size:16px; font-family:OrbitronMedium;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span>  01:42, 13 September 2012 (EDT)

==Real-World Weapon Resemblance==

I couldn't help but notice that in one of the sniper rifle articles that the little bit of trivia about it resembling its real-world weapon counterpart, the [[wikipedia:Denel NTW-20|Denel NTW-20]], (also called Mechem NTW-20), was removed. The weapon was seen in the movie ''District 9'', which can be seen [http://www.imfdb.org/wiki/District_9#Mechem_NTW-20| here on IMFDB]. Now, why was it removed? It is a valid piece of trivia that is as noteworthy as the MA5 is to FN F2000. Why was it removed? Can we have reinserted please? I'll do it myself when I can, but I'd like to know why it was removed. --'''''[[User:Xamikaze330|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Halo;">Xamikaze330</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Xamikaze330|<font color="Blue">Transmission</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Xamikaze330|<font color="Green">Commencing</font>]]''''']</small> 15:34, 22 November 2013 (EST)Xamikaze330
:Lots of weapons in the ''Halo'' universe resemble real-world weapons, which in my eyes isn't really notable enough to mention in an article. Given that, I'm guessing the trivia was removed for not being notable.--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}} 17:20, 22 November 2013 (EST)