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::I recall there also being a mention that there was going to be an MP map set inside a damaged Strato-Sentinel. --[[User:Jugus|Jugus]] ([[User talk:Jugus|talk]]) 13:43, 4 April 2017 (EDT)
::I recall there also being a mention that there was going to be an MP map set inside a damaged Strato-Sentinel. --[[User:Jugus|Jugus]] ([[User talk:Jugus|talk]]) 13:43, 4 April 2017 (EDT)


:::That's the [[Guardian#Production_notes|Guardian]] on [[Guardian (map)|Guardian]], if I'm not mistaken.— <span style="font-size:14px; font-family:Arial;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span>  12:12, 5 April 2017 (EDT)
:::That's the [[Guardian#Production_notes|Guardian]] on [[Guardian (level)|Guardian]], if I'm not mistaken.— <span style="font-size:14px; font-family:Arial;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span>  12:12, 5 April 2017 (EDT)


::::Nope - ''Art of Halo 3'', page 128: "One early concept for the Lockout remake involved players ambling around the semi-destroyed insides of a Strato-Sentinel orbiting a resource moon. Deep in the distance, you can see other Stato-Sentinels harvesting the moon's precious resources. While this idea was discarded, it remains an example of the sense of scale we constantly strive to achieve." (There's an accompanying image of just that.) --[[User:Jugus|Jugus]] ([[User talk:Jugus|talk]]) 00:35, 6 April 2017 (EDT)
::::Nope - ''Art of Halo 3'', page 128: "One early concept for the Lockout remake involved players ambling around the semi-destroyed insides of a Strato-Sentinel orbiting a resource moon. Deep in the distance, you can see other Stato-Sentinels harvesting the moon's precious resources. While this idea was discarded, it remains an example of the sense of scale we constantly strive to achieve." (There's an accompanying image of just that.) --[[User:Jugus|Jugus]] ([[User talk:Jugus|talk]]) 00:35, 6 April 2017 (EDT)
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::Does this clear up my point now?-[[User:CIA391|CIA391]] ([[User talk:CIA391|talk]]) 05:26, 7 May 2018 (EDT)
::Does this clear up my point now?-[[User:CIA391|CIA391]] ([[User talk:CIA391|talk]]) 05:26, 7 May 2018 (EDT)


:::Well, it's possible that they misspoke which happens all the time in live streams, conferences and interviews. We have two sources (''EVG'' and ''Hunters in the Dark'') confirming that Retrievers and Strato-Sentinels are synonymous. Unless there's further confirmation on the live stream (that what they said is not a mere statement and is indeed canon), this page shouldn't be split.— <span style="font-size:14px; font-family:Arial;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span>  09:30, 7 May 2018 (EDT)
:::Well, it's possible that they misspoke which happens all the time in live streams, conferences and interviews. Unless there's further confirmation on the live stream (that what they said is not a mere statement and is indeed canon), ''Hunters in the Dark'' would prevail and this page shouldn't be split.— <span style="font-size:14px; font-family:Arial;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span>  09:30, 7 May 2018 (EDT)
 
:::: There is further confirmation, Stratos are labeled as a variant of Stewards, not a variant of Retrievers. Source: https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/news/outpost-discoveries [[User:Editorguy|Editorguy]] ([[User talk:Editorguy|talk]]) 14:28, September 18, 2019 (EDT)
 
::Seems clear that Retrievers are just a type of strato-sentinel[[User:TheEld|TheEld]] ([[User talk:TheEld|talk]]) 09:46, 7 May 2018 (EDT)TheEld
 
I strongly agree with splitting based on this information: https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/news/outpost-discoveries. Should we really have Stewards, Stratos, and Retrievers all on the same page? There's two different depictions as well.[[User:Editorguy|Editorguy]] ([[User talk:Editorguy|talk]]) 14:28, September 18, 2019 (EDT)
 
== Update for Stewards and Strato Sentinels ==
It shows the older design being a different class than the newer design https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/news/outpost-discoveries. I don't fully understand the differences between Retriever, Steward, and Strato (Stratos are a variant of Stewards, but formerly mentioned to be a variant of Retrievers?) types but with so many different names and images once we understand the classification maybe we should split the Retriever Sentinel into two different pages for different variants. [[User:Editorguy|Editorguy]] ([[User talk:Editorguy|talk]]) 13:20, September 18, 2019 (EDT)
 
:Actually if I read it right. It seems Stratos are the "type" and Stewards and Retrievers are kinda like "variants". But I'll ask for clarity. I am going to overhaul Sentinels regardless Its something I been saying for a lil while on the Discord.-[[User:CIA391|CIA391]] ([[User talk:CIA391|talk]]) 13:53, September 18, 2019 (EDT)
 
::The question now is how much of Hunters in the Dark was referring to the Retriever design and how much of it was referring to the Steward design? The tentacle legs description from Hunters in the Dark seems to describe the Stewards. But much of the book talks about Retrievers?[[User:Editorguy|Editorguy]] ([[User talk:Editorguy|talk]]) 15:41, September 18, 2019 (EDT)
 
We also have to edit the category Images of Retriever Sentinels, lot's of work ahead[[User:Editorguy|Editorguy]] ([[User talk:Editorguy|talk]]) 15:56, September 18, 2019 (EDT)
 
::Or like many Sentinels. There is many versions of variants. There probs isnt just 1 Retriever variant. And I will tidy this up today.-[[User:CIA391|CIA391]] ([[User talk:CIA391|talk]]) 04:32, September 19, 2019 (EDT)

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