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:I will agree that it's not quite canon, but it is the official info. Yasmine ''was'' a SPARTAN-II, just not in the official storyline. This is the ilovebees/Dead or Alive storyline, which has been integrated somewhat into the official storyline in that the assassination of ILB character Herzog was mentioned in the Halo Graphic Novel as a canon incident. It's a weird incongruity that needs description within the articles, and shouldn't be glazed over with fanfiction descriptions of second classes nor should the article subjects be eliminated entirely from Halopedia. --<b>[[User:Dragonclaws|<font color="#4D56B1">Dragon<font color="#F28500">c</font>laws</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Dragonclaws|<font color="#4D56B1">talk</font>]])</sup></b> 02:18, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
:I will agree that it's not quite canon, but it is the official info. Yasmine ''was'' a SPARTAN-II, just not in the official storyline. This is the ilovebees/Dead or Alive storyline, which has been integrated somewhat into the official storyline in that the assassination of ILB character Herzog was mentioned in the Halo Graphic Novel as a canon incident. It's a weird incongruity that needs description within the articles, and shouldn't be glazed over with fanfiction descriptions of second classes nor should the article subjects be eliminated entirely from Halopedia. --<b>[[User:Dragonclaws|<font color="#4D56B1">Dragon<font color="#F28500">c</font>laws</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Dragonclaws|<font color="#4D56B1">talk</font>]])</sup></b> 02:18, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
::Yes, Yasmine was a Spartan-II as far as ILB is concerned.  However, this is only because ILB was released before Ghosts Of Onyx and the writers had no knowledge of the Spartan-III program.  Otherwise, she would have been a Spartan-III since, as Master Gunns mentioned, there officially was no second class of Spartan-II's. --[[User talk:Mayhemm|Mayhemm]] 02:55, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
::Yes, Yasmine was a Spartan-II as far as ILB is concerned.  However, this is only because ILB was released before Ghosts Of Onyx and the writers had no knowledge of the Spartan-III program.  Otherwise, she would have been a Spartan-III since, as Master Gunns mentioned, there officially was no second class of Spartan-II's. --[[User talk:Mayhemm|Mayhemm]] 02:55, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
:::I believe the novels are more dominant than ILB if you're referring to the canon issue. This is also due tot he fact that the novels provide more in-depth description and information for users/readers to analyse rather than the ILB itself (In which became a dead end website).[[User Talk:-Ascension-|<font color="#4B5320">R</font>]][[User:-Ascension-|<font color="#355E3B">C</font>]] 21:08, 24 December 2008 (UTC)

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The Spartan article says shes a Spartan-III but this article says shes a Spartan-II.--JohnSpartan117 18:51, 5 November 2006 (UTC)

it has to be spartan-iii, spartan-iis were already fighting and dying in 2537.CaptJim 17:57, 27 May 2007 (UTC)

Do the years match up exactly with those given for the S-III augmentations in Ghosts of Onyx, though? Also, I'm pretty sure that there's a part in Ghosts of Onyx (at least the 1st edition) that says there were no augmentation casualties among the Spartan IIIs; but that passage can probably be considered non-canon without impacting the rest of the novel. --Andrew Nagy 04:09, 12 October 2007 (UTC)
She's a SPARTAN-II. -- The SargeMy Comm LineWhat I've done 23:25, 13 April 2008 (UTC)

It's quite an issue. There was no SPARTAN-II Class II. Almost immediately after the SPARTAN-IIs graduated, Ackerson had all of Halsey's funds pulled and began work on the SPARTAN-III group. And the dates from ilovebees for Yasmine do match up with the SPARTAN-IIIs. If I recall correctly, she matches perfectly with the Beta Company of the SPARTAN-IIIs. Now, we know that there were no augmentation deaths in Alpha Company, but we know very little about Beta Company. Perhaps there was one death in Beta company? The point stands, Yasmine can't be a SPARTAN-II.

--Master Gunnery Sergeant Hank J Wimbleton IVCOM 01:25, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
I will agree that it's not quite canon, but it is the official info. Yasmine was a SPARTAN-II, just not in the official storyline. This is the ilovebees/Dead or Alive storyline, which has been integrated somewhat into the official storyline in that the assassination of ILB character Herzog was mentioned in the Halo Graphic Novel as a canon incident. It's a weird incongruity that needs description within the articles, and shouldn't be glazed over with fanfiction descriptions of second classes nor should the article subjects be eliminated entirely from Halopedia. --Dragonclaws(talk) 02:18, 4 November 2008 (UTC)
Yes, Yasmine was a Spartan-II as far as ILB is concerned. However, this is only because ILB was released before Ghosts Of Onyx and the writers had no knowledge of the Spartan-III program. Otherwise, she would have been a Spartan-III since, as Master Gunns mentioned, there officially was no second class of Spartan-II's. --Mayhemm 02:55, 20 December 2008 (UTC)
I believe the novels are more dominant than ILB if you're referring to the canon issue. This is also due tot he fact that the novels provide more in-depth description and information for users/readers to analyse rather than the ILB itself (In which became a dead end website).RC 21:08, 24 December 2008 (UTC)