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Covenant Species Weights

I know there isn't much room in Wikis for jokes, but here's just one to start off a long analysis. Please don't ban me. Cracked.com ran an article called 5 Things We're Making Fatter in Addition to Ourselves. And I've noticed a somewhat similar trend over the Covenant species articles with their weights. They've almost all gone up, to somewhat ridiculous levels, with the exception of Elites, who have lost about 200 lbs. and Prophets, who've stayed the same.

I don't have precise figures to quote, but from memory here is a comparison of the original species weight to the current one:

Grunts: 118 kg/260 lbs (current) vs. 110 lbs (original)

Jackals: 88 kg/195 lbs (current) vs. ~150 lbs (original)

Drones: 130 kg/280 lbs (current) vs. ~130 lbs (original)

Brutes: 680 kg/1500 lbs (current) vs. 1100 lbs (original)

Just looking at these, the Grunt and Drone figures seem ridiculous. How does a Grunt, a much shorter and smaller creature than a human, weigh in so much heavier? And the Drone would be in the obese category in human classification, yet not only is it a pretty trim-looking creature, it's a flying one.

The Jackal and Brute aren't as egregious as this, but they're still somewhat implausible figures. The Jackal is supposed to have hollow bones and it looks pretty skinny, but it's probably the most acceptable figure out of these four. Before the Elite's weight was changed from around 500 to its present of around 320 lbs, the Brute weighed 1,100. So it weighed a little more than twice as much as an Elite. Plausible. Now with the new figures, the Brute weighs 5 times as much as an Elite. Which makes little sense to me.

The source of these figures seems to be the Halo Encyclopedia, and I think the standard is to use the newest material as the main source in case of conflicts. But we've all read through/contributed to the rants about how riddled with errors the Encyclopedia is, and I think I can see the source of the error in some of these cases.

The've mixed up kilograms with pounds.

It makes very strong sense for the Grunt and the Drone especially, because those kilogram figures are almost the same as the old pound figures. The Jackal would be a little bit on the anorexic side if it were only 88 pounds, so in that case the 195 lb. figure should probably be more correct. The Brute was always a heavyweight, but consider, if it were 680 pounds it would weigh a little more than twice as much as the old Elite did, the same that it used to be when the Elite was 500.

My proposal is to change the weights of the Grunt, Drone, and possibly the Brute so that it's the same number in pounds that it is now in kilograms. If it's unacceptable to consider correcting typos/errors in the Halo Encyclopedia like that, then my proposal is to find the more accurate-sounding numbers in the old sources, and replace the current ones with those. Flayer92 01:33, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

The Unggoy are 5 foot 6 inches. The Yanme'e are 5 foot 10 inches and the Kig-yar are 6 foot 8 inches. Just wanted to let you know in case you didn't notice yet. ;) --Invincibilityhud.svg Ultra Force 17:32, August 16, 2010 (UTC)

Source formatting

I suggest we change formatting of sources for books and games because I think it looks a bit more precise. And here are my suggestions for my proposal:

  1. Books: [[Name of book]] - Any sub-titles, page Page number ("Quote (optional)"), or if you want to link right to the book: [[Name of book]] ("Quote (optional)")
  2. Games: [[Name of game]] - [[Name of level/Name of level (level)#Any sub-title|Name of level, Any sub-title]] ("Quote (optional)"), or if you want to link right to the game: [[Name of game]] ("Quote (optional)")

And as an example: If you want to source a quote from page of Halo Encyclopedia as an example: [Source formatting 1]

And for something like a section from a level in Halo 3: [Source formatting 2]

  1. ^ Halo Encyclopedia - Chapter Six: The Forerunners, page 185 ("The Libarian had a deep respect for humanity, whom she viewed as “special” among all of the sentient life she had catalogued and felt it was well worth the sacrafice of her life to save them.")
  2. ^ Halo 3 - Sierra 117, Quid Pro Quo

And other ways.--SPARTAN-125 Cally99117

Wiki Improvement Poll

In counting down the release of Halo: Reach (Sept 14) and experiencing the end of 10 wonderful years of all that is Bungie, what do you think Halopedia should do to celebrate? - 5əb'7aŋk(7alk) 17:22, August 16, 2010 (UTC)


We are already a pretty reached-out (no pun intended) wiki and I don't think that would be so different of awesome. The whole halopedians-only matches sound exclusive and unfun as well. My suggestion is below:

Contests. Everything reach themed in any medium. Poetry, photoshopping, screenshots, songs, animation. Anything you could work, and we have enough users to run something like that. 1st 2nd and 3rd for each category. Cairo 'my sig's broken' Cat 07:48, August 18, 2010 (UTC)