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Hello. I recently reported to 343I Grimbrother One what I thought was an error in the Waypoint's encyclopedia, and he replied with a Halo trivia about Pelicans. But I don't know how I could reference this in-article whithout being erased for possible fake content. Is there any policy about this ?  [[User:Lunaramethyst|''<span style="color:#483D8B">ΩPer Mare,</span>'']][[User talk:Lunaramethyst|'''<span style="color:#6B8E23"> ΔPer Terras</span>''',]][[Special:Contributions/|<span style="color:#0000CD"> ΨPer Constellatum</span>]] 13:38, 21 January 2015 (EST)
Hello. I recently reported to 343I Grimbrother One what I thought was an error in the Waypoint's encyclopedia, and he replied with a Halo trivia about Pelicans. But I don't know how I could reference this in-article whithout being erased for possible fake content. Is there any policy about this ?  [[User:Lunaramethyst|''<span style="color:#483D8B">ΩPer Mare,</span>'']][[User talk:Lunaramethyst|'''<span style="color:#6B8E23"> ΔPer Terras</span>''',]][[Special:Contributions/|<span style="color:#0000CD"> ΨPer Constellatum</span>]] 13:38, 21 January 2015 (EST)
:I'm not sure of the proper way to source it myself, but I suppose screenshotting the message and uploading the image to Halopedia may be adequate. - [[User:NightHammer|NightHammer]] ([[User talk:NightHammer|talk]]) 14:30, 21 January 2015 (EST)
::I suppose that would count as a letter of canon.[[User:Sith Venator|<span style="color:green">Sith-venator Wavingstrider</span>]] ([[User talk:Sith Venator|<span style="color:blue">Commlink</span>]]) 16:30, 21 January 2015 (EST)
:::I was wondering that, too. But the letters contained multiple questions and were asked to authors like Traviss or Van Lente, as far as i know. Also, I don't know if a common member have the legitimacy to create such an article.  [[User:Lunaramethyst|''<span style="color:#483D8B">ΩPer Mare,</span>'']][[User talk:Lunaramethyst|'''<span style="color:#6B8E23"> ΔPer Terras</span>''',]][[Special:Contributions/|<span style="color:#0000CD"> ΨPer Constellatum</span>]] 13:15, 22 January 2015 (EST)
:In the past, pasting the original message and the reply has been enough. But I agree with NightHammer, we should ideally be taking screenshots of these, to weed out potential problems of legitimacy, though of course some details may need to be blacked out to protect privacy. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 19:04, 21 January 2015 (EST)
::I can provide a screenshot as I already referenced this trivia to the french WikiHalo by this mean, but Waypoint's messaging system don't let you see both the original message and the reply on the same page. Should I upload two screenshot ? What level of detail should be conserved (I would at least leave my gamertag, as a mean to confirm the interlocutors) ? (I'm kinda annoying with all this, but hey, universe is serious business.)  [[User:Lunaramethyst|''<span style="color:#483D8B">ΩPer Mare,</span>'']][[User talk:Lunaramethyst|'''<span style="color:#6B8E23"> ΔPer Terras</span>''',]][[Special:Contributions/|<span style="color:#0000CD"> ΨPer Constellatum</span>]] 13:15, 22 January 2015 (EST)
:::I found WikiHalo's reference [http://wiki.halo.fr/images/5/5f/Lunar_Message_Grim.jpg here]. If you don't want to, I personally don't think it is necessary to leave your gamertag in. And the original image may be fine, although it may be helpful if you could edit in your original question for context. - [[User:NightHammer|NightHammer]] ([[User talk:NightHammer|talk]]) 14:14, 22 January 2015 (EST)
:::Yes, past practice has always been "User takes a screenshot and uploads it; the wiki users will then scrutinise the screenshot". If it's two separate screenshots, so be it. The screenshot must include some form of confirmation that it's from the source (i.e. 343 Industries staff) and that the message was delivered to a user (i.e. owner of the received message). This would avoid any potential disputes as to the originality of the screenshot. — <span style="font-size:14px; font-family:Arial;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span>  04:51, 23 January 2015 (EST)
::::Here it is for you to scrutinize : File:Grim Pelican Reply.jpg File:Grim Pelican Question.jpg. I can provide differently framed screenshots if necessary.  [[User:Lunaramethyst|''<span style="color:#483D8B">ΩPer Mare,</span>'']][[User talk:Lunaramethyst|'''<span style="color:#6B8E23"> ΔPer Terras</span>''',]][[Special:Contributions/|<span style="color:#0000CD"> ΨPer Constellatum</span>]] 14:36, 23 January 2015 (EST)
:::::I suppose it's more or less what we already suspected. Same reason for which there are MA5Ds in ''FUD'', MA5Cs in ''Halo Legends'', or Storm harnesses in ''Halo 4'''s Prologue. All of those things existed long before the games, it's just that they weren't widespread and/or we simply never saw them. [[User:Imrane-117|Imrane-117]] ([[User talk:Imrane-117|talk]]) 01:32, 24 January 2015 (EST)

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Hello. I recently reported to 343I Grimbrother One what I thought was an error in the Waypoint's encyclopedia, and he replied with a Halo trivia about Pelicans. But I don't know how I could reference this in-article whithout being erased for possible fake content. Is there any policy about this ?  ΩPer Mare, ΔPer Terras, ΨPer Constellatum 13:38, 21 January 2015 (EST)

I'm not sure of the proper way to source it myself, but I suppose screenshotting the message and uploading the image to Halopedia may be adequate. - NightHammer (talk) 14:30, 21 January 2015 (EST)
I suppose that would count as a letter of canon.Sith-venator Wavingstrider (Commlink) 16:30, 21 January 2015 (EST)
I was wondering that, too. But the letters contained multiple questions and were asked to authors like Traviss or Van Lente, as far as i know. Also, I don't know if a common member have the legitimacy to create such an article.  ΩPer Mare, ΔPer Terras, ΨPer Constellatum 13:15, 22 January 2015 (EST)
In the past, pasting the original message and the reply has been enough. But I agree with NightHammer, we should ideally be taking screenshots of these, to weed out potential problems of legitimacy, though of course some details may need to be blacked out to protect privacy. -- Qura 'Morhek The Autocrat of Morheka 19:04, 21 January 2015 (EST)
I can provide a screenshot as I already referenced this trivia to the french WikiHalo by this mean, but Waypoint's messaging system don't let you see both the original message and the reply on the same page. Should I upload two screenshot ? What level of detail should be conserved (I would at least leave my gamertag, as a mean to confirm the interlocutors) ? (I'm kinda annoying with all this, but hey, universe is serious business.)  ΩPer Mare, ΔPer Terras, ΨPer Constellatum 13:15, 22 January 2015 (EST)
I found WikiHalo's reference here. If you don't want to, I personally don't think it is necessary to leave your gamertag in. And the original image may be fine, although it may be helpful if you could edit in your original question for context. - NightHammer (talk) 14:14, 22 January 2015 (EST)
Yes, past practice has always been "User takes a screenshot and uploads it; the wiki users will then scrutinise the screenshot". If it's two separate screenshots, so be it. The screenshot must include some form of confirmation that it's from the source (i.e. 343 Industries staff) and that the message was delivered to a user (i.e. owner of the received message). This would avoid any potential disputes as to the originality of the screenshot. — subtank 04:51, 23 January 2015 (EST)
Here it is for you to scrutinize : File:Grim Pelican Reply.jpg File:Grim Pelican Question.jpg. I can provide differently framed screenshots if necessary.  ΩPer Mare, ΔPer Terras, ΨPer Constellatum 14:36, 23 January 2015 (EST)
I suppose it's more or less what we already suspected. Same reason for which there are MA5Ds in FUD, MA5Cs in Halo Legends, or Storm harnesses in Halo 4's Prologue. All of those things existed long before the games, it's just that they weren't widespread and/or we simply never saw them. Imrane-117 (talk) 01:32, 24 January 2015 (EST)