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::I just read it again and... hell I don't know. I think I'm wrong. I hate when that happens. Can't we just wait until the game comes out before we go and make any decisions about how to manage the cannon? We know very little, after all, and it comes out in less than a month now. [[User:FatalSnipe117|<span style="color:green">'''pestilence'''</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/FatalSnipe117|<span style="color:green">'''Phil'''</span>]], ''[[User talk:FatalSnipe117|<span style="color:green">'''pestilence!'''</span>]]'' 23:24, 22 October 2011 (EDT)
::I just read it again and... hell I don't know. I think I'm wrong. I hate when that happens. Can't we just wait until the game comes out before we go and make any decisions about how to manage the cannon? We know very little, after all, and it comes out in less than a month now. [[User:FatalSnipe117|<span style="color:green">'''pestilence'''</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/FatalSnipe117|<span style="color:green">'''Phil'''</span>]], ''[[User talk:FatalSnipe117|<span style="color:green">'''pestilence!'''</span>]]'' 23:24, 22 October 2011 (EDT)


And don't forget the the SPARTANs equipment lockers were destroyed, so we won't be seeing any of those, then. Vegerot goes RAWR! [[User:Vegerot|<span style="color:midnightblue; font-weight:bold">Vegerot</span>]] ([[User talk:Vegerot|<span style="color:grey">talk</span>]])  23:45, 22 October 2011 (EDT)!
And don't forget the the SPARTANs equipment lockers were destroyed, so we won't be seeing any of those, then. Vegerot goes RAWR! [[File:Icon-Vegito2.gif|21px]] [[User:Vegerot|<span style="color:midnightblue; font-weight:bold">Vegerot</span>]] ([[User talk:Vegerot|<span style="color:grey">talk</span>]])  23:45, 22 October 2011 (EDT)!


Does it really matter which shotgun they use? Maybe they have both types onboard. I don't think there will be some time travel paradox because the Chief picked up a different type of shotgun. I'm wondering about the Covenant looks affecting canon, since the Zealots aren't gold anymore, and that was a major thing in canon. <font style="papyrus">[[User:Bioniclepluslotr|<font color="lime">'''Bioniclepluslotr'''</font>]]</font> 09:59, 23 October 2011 (EDT)
Does it really matter which shotgun they use? Maybe they have both types onboard. I don't think there will be some time travel paradox because the Chief picked up a different type of shotgun. I'm wondering about the Covenant looks affecting canon, since the Zealots aren't gold anymore, and that was a major thing in canon. <font style="papyrus">[[User:Bioniclepluslotr|<font color="lime">'''Bioniclepluslotr'''</font>]]</font> 09:59, 23 October 2011 (EDT)
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== Ultimate Overwriting/retconing of Everything ==
== Ultimate Overwriting/retconing of Everything ==
So just to make sure, this game will overwrite (retcon is a bad word, as most of it will remain the same) everything from the original, right?  So if something happens one way in the original, and one way in Anniversary, then Anniversary will win, no?  Vegerot goes RAWR! [[User:Vegerot|<span style="color:midnightblue; font-weight:bold">Vegerot</span>]] ([[User talk:Vegerot|<span style="color:grey">talk</span>]])  23:08, 30 October 2011 (EDT)!
So just to make sure, this game will overwrite (retcon is a bad word, as most of it will remain the same) everything from the original, right?  So if something happens one way in the original, and one way in Anniversary, then Anniversary will win, no?  Vegerot goes RAWR! [[File:Icon-Vegito2.gif|21px]] [[User:Vegerot|<span style="color:midnightblue; font-weight:bold">Vegerot</span>]] ([[User talk:Vegerot|<span style="color:grey">talk</span>]])  23:08, 30 October 2011 (EDT)!


:Yes. 343i hold the IP, it's the newest game, ergo it's the higher-priority canon. From everything they've said, and from everything we've seen, though, I really do think that the use of the M45 shotgun instead of the M90 is the only major change. Obviously there's the terminals, and graphical updates, but otherwise it's meant to be utterly faithful. No "Greedo-shot-first" or blinking Ewoks here, no sir. -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 01:01, 31 October 2011 (EDT)
:Yes. 343i hold the IP, it's the newest game, ergo it's the higher-priority canon. From everything they've said, and from everything we've seen, though, I really do think that the use of the M45 shotgun instead of the M90 is the only major change. Obviously there's the terminals, and graphical updates, but otherwise it's meant to be utterly faithful. No "Greedo-shot-first" or blinking Ewoks here, no sir. -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 01:01, 31 October 2011 (EDT)


No, what I'm saying is that everything in Anniversary replaces the original.  So for example, that means that in canon perspective, the M90 never even WAS used on 04!  Also, we would remove the thing on Cortana's page about her looking like that during the Battle of Installation 04, because those things are overwritten in Anniversary. Vegerot goes RAWR! [[User:Vegerot|<span style="color:midnightblue; font-weight:bold">Vegerot</span>]] ([[User talk:Vegerot|<span style="color:grey">talk</span>]])  01:39, 31 October 2011 (EDT)!
No, what I'm saying is that everything in Anniversary replaces the original.  So for example, that means that in canon perspective, the M90 never even WAS used on 04!  Also, we would remove the thing on Cortana's page about her looking like that during the Battle of Installation 04, because those things are overwritten in Anniversary. Vegerot goes RAWR! [[File:Icon-Vegito2.gif|21px]] [[User:Vegerot|<span style="color:midnightblue; font-weight:bold">Vegerot</span>]] ([[User talk:Vegerot|<span style="color:grey">talk</span>]])  01:39, 31 October 2011 (EDT)!


I don't know, I wouldn't totally say that the M90 Shotgun was never seen on Installation 04. For one, the novel ''Halo: The Flood'' says that they used the M90 on Alpha Halo. I know this because I happen to be reading it right now. Actually, more like the older novel, but I doubt that the author changed everything in the new edition, just like 343i changed everything in ''Halo Anniversary''. Sure there may be many grammar and punctuation corrections, and maybe a few changed sentences, maybe, ''maybe'' one or two paragraphs, but I don't think the article or small sections of the article should be completely changed or have anything omitted. Am I coming through, am I being understood completely? It just seems wrong to say that the M90 was not present and used on Alpha Halo, it's like saying it was never encountered until ''Halo 2'' and ''Halo 3''. But granted, I do however agree the M45 looks much more cool than the M90, but seems to me shares some similarities to the M90A of H2 and more specifically, H3. --[[User talk:Xamikaze330|Xamikaze330]] 16:18, 31 October 2011 (EDT)Xamikaze330
I don't know, I wouldn't totally say that the M90 Shotgun was never seen on Installation 04. For one, the novel ''Halo: The Flood'' says that they used the M90 on Alpha Halo. I know this because I happen to be reading it right now. Actually, more like the older novel, but I doubt that the author changed everything in the new edition, just like 343i changed everything in ''Halo Anniversary''. Sure there may be many grammar and punctuation corrections, and maybe a few changed sentences, maybe, ''maybe'' one or two paragraphs, but I don't think the article or small sections of the article should be completely changed or have anything omitted. Am I coming through, am I being understood completely? It just seems wrong to say that the M90 was not present and used on Alpha Halo, it's like saying it was never encountered until ''Halo 2'' and ''Halo 3''. But granted, I do however agree the M45 looks much more cool than the M90, but seems to me shares some similarities to the M90A of H2 and more specifically, H3. --[[User talk:Xamikaze330|Xamikaze330]] 16:18, 31 October 2011 (EDT)Xamikaze330


Actually, either way it was first encountered in Halo: Reach.  But I think that we should change the moments in which we say that it's the M90 and make it the M45. Vegerot goes RAWR! [[User:Vegerot|<span style="color:midnightblue; font-weight:bold">Vegerot</span>]] ([[User talk:Vegerot|<span style="color:grey">talk</span>]])  17:41, 31 October 2011 (EDT)!
Actually, either way it was first encountered in Halo: Reach.  But I think that we should change the moments in which we say that it's the M90 and make it the M45. Vegerot goes RAWR! [[File:Icon-Vegito2.gif|21px]] [[User:Vegerot|<span style="color:midnightblue; font-weight:bold">Vegerot</span>]] ([[User talk:Vegerot|<span style="color:grey">talk</span>]])  17:41, 31 October 2011 (EDT)!


Maybe just so, but please bear in mind about the "alternating switch" key between different graphics engines plays a factor on this discussion, and also the article. By alternating between different graphics engines, the user "switches" between the M45E Tactical Shotgun and the M90 CAWS Shotgun. This can very easily wreak hell and havoc on this, making things very confusing, or maybe a little confusing. Either way, you may want to think about it. The past cannot be undone, nor should it be. Just a friendly word of advice. --[[User talk:Xamikaze330|Xamikaze330]] 19:16, 31 October 2011 (EDT)Xamikaze330
Maybe just so, but please bear in mind about the "alternating switch" key between different graphics engines plays a factor on this discussion, and also the article. By alternating between different graphics engines, the user "switches" between the M45E Tactical Shotgun and the M90 CAWS Shotgun. This can very easily wreak hell and havoc on this, making things very confusing, or maybe a little confusing. Either way, you may want to think about it. The past cannot be undone, nor should it be. Just a friendly word of advice. --[[User talk:Xamikaze330|Xamikaze330]] 19:16, 31 October 2011 (EDT)Xamikaze330


No, what this means is that the shotgun we played with in CE was ACTUALLY the M45.  Vegerot goes RAWR! [[User:Vegerot|<span style="color:midnightblue; font-weight:bold">Vegerot</span>]] ([[User talk:Vegerot|<span style="color:grey">talk</span>]])  19:19, 31 October 2011 (EDT)
No, what this means is that the shotgun we played with in CE was ACTUALLY the M45.  Vegerot goes RAWR! [[File:Icon-Vegito2.gif|21px]] [[User:Vegerot|<span style="color:midnightblue; font-weight:bold">Vegerot</span>]] ([[User talk:Vegerot|<span style="color:grey">talk</span>]])  19:19, 31 October 2011 (EDT)


:No, the M90 still exists, and we used it in the original, that's just '''non-canon''' now. The M90 looks like the original one, and the M45 looks like the updated one, and they both exist. Also, saying there were ''no'' M90s on Alpha Halo would be like saying there were no M7s on Reach, the weapon selection in-game =/= the canon weapons used there, it's just a byproduct of how the game works. In "The Mona Lisa" we saw both MA5Bs and MA5Cs being used at the same time. In a similar fashion, it's doubtful '''all''' the M6s used on the POA on Alpha Halo were the D variant, as that's the officer's variant. Keyes would have one and a few others, but the majority would most likely have been Gs and Cs, there's just one M6 to represent them all, same goes for other weapons and games. Also, on another point, I'm in favour of saying only the improved graphics are canon, and switching to the old makes the visuals "non-canon". That might not be the best way to word it, but you all get what I mean. [[User talk:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 20:21, 11 November 2011 (EST)
:No, the M90 still exists, and we used it in the original, that's just '''non-canon''' now. The M90 looks like the original one, and the M45 looks like the updated one, and they both exist. Also, saying there were ''no'' M90s on Alpha Halo would be like saying there were no M7s on Reach, the weapon selection in-game =/= the canon weapons used there, it's just a byproduct of how the game works. In "The Mona Lisa" we saw both MA5Bs and MA5Cs being used at the same time. In a similar fashion, it's doubtful '''all''' the M6s used on the POA on Alpha Halo were the D variant, as that's the officer's variant. Keyes would have one and a few others, but the majority would most likely have been Gs and Cs, there's just one M6 to represent them all, same goes for other weapons and games. Also, on another point, I'm in favour of saying only the improved graphics are canon, and switching to the old makes the visuals "non-canon". That might not be the best way to word it, but you all get what I mean. [[User talk:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 20:21, 11 November 2011 (EST)
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Anyone else had this glitch? Marines and crewmen will have spikes coming out of their heads, helmetted or otherwise, and an eyeball will be floating right next to it. I figured if this happened to enough people, it could become it's own article.[[User:Fairfieldfencer|<font color="#FF2400">Fair</font><font color="#FFA500">field</font><font color="#FF2400">fencer</font>]] [[User talk:Fairfieldfencer|<font color="FF2400">F</font><font color="#FFA500">F</font><font color="#FF2400">F</font>]] 07:22, 7 December 2011 (EST)
Anyone else had this glitch? Marines and crewmen will have spikes coming out of their heads, helmetted or otherwise, and an eyeball will be floating right next to it. I figured if this happened to enough people, it could become it's own article.[[User:Fairfieldfencer|<font color="#FF2400">Fair</font><font color="#FFA500">field</font><font color="#FF2400">fencer</font>]] [[User talk:Fairfieldfencer|<font color="FF2400">F</font><font color="#FFA500">F</font><font color="#FF2400">F</font>]] 07:22, 7 December 2011 (EST)


lolno. Vegerot goes RAWR! [[User:Vegerot|<span style="color:midnightblue; font-weight:bold">Vegerot</span>]] ([[User talk:Vegerot|<span style="color:grey">talk</span>]])  08:30, 7 December 2011 (EST)!
lolno. Vegerot goes RAWR! [[File:Icon-Vegito2.gif|21px]] [[User:Vegerot|<span style="color:midnightblue; font-weight:bold">Vegerot</span>]] ([[User talk:Vegerot|<span style="color:grey">talk</span>]])  08:30, 7 December 2011 (EST)!


Nope, I can't say I saw anything like that. My experience of Halo: Anniversary was rather pleasant and free of glitches.--[[User:Brute Honour Guard|<span style="color:blue">Brute Honour Guard</span>]] File:Bruteface.png|20px]] ([[User talk:Brute Honour Guard|<span style="color:black">"Talk"</span>]]) 09:18, 7 December 2011 (EST)
Nope, I can't say I saw anything like that. My experience of Halo: Anniversary was rather pleasant and free of glitches.--[[User:Brute Honour Guard|<span style="color:blue">Brute Honour Guard</span>]] File:Bruteface.png|20px]] ([[User talk:Brute Honour Guard|<span style="color:black">"Talk"</span>]]) 09:18, 7 December 2011 (EST)

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