User talk:Subtank

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Just curious, why did you revert the changes that I made? E: and if you reply "no evidences" it's a trivia section. Trivia section is made for speculation FlamingRain 14:19, December 14, 2009 (UTC)

Trivia information should be provided with proper sources and evidences. Otherwise, you'll find the Battle Rifle article to be full of trivia such as "This is a UNSC Weapon", "It is used mostly by Humans", "You can make headshots with it", "It can be used to snipe people".- 5əb'7aŋk^(7alk) 14:23, December 14, 2009 (UTC)

okay. I think that's pretty retarded but I guess I'll go back and revert and cite a source with it.—This unsigned comment was made by FlamingRain (talk • contribs). Please sign your posts with ~~~~

No. First state your issue in the talk page of the article and if everyone agrees with you, then add it.- 5əb'7aŋk^(7alk) 14:26, December 14, 2009 (UTC)

You keep wiping the talk page though.--Sandor051 18:34, December 15, 2009 (UTC)

Because it is irrelevant to the article. People keep trying to notify the community that Jorge-052 sounds British. Why is that so important? Sense of nationalism? Sense of pride? Sense of patriotism? We don't practise that in Halopedia. It is idiotic and complete nonsense. Unless it is a whole different case, it stays deleted.- 5əb'7aŋk^(7alk) 19:06, December 15, 2009 (UTC)

It's notable. That would be why. And irrelevant of what you think, wiping the talk page is baffling. Because it would be the perfect place to discuss this. --Sandor051 21:07, December 15, 2009 (UTC)

I agree with Sandor. Wiping the talk page is pointless and appears reminiscent of the Cold War days when Russia blamed all it's failures on something impossible and then erased all pertinent evidence. Out of that, only the erasing of evidence applies here. The talk page should be kept as a record of debated materials. There's bound to be someone who will come along later thinking to put some tidbit in a page that has already been agreed upon as irrelevant. Except this fellow wouldn't know that, since the talk page is empty.

File:Gunnery Sergeant.png  ΘяɪɸɴF22    Me    Talk    Contributions    CAG   21:11, December 15, 2009 (UTC)

Actually, it's not notable. It is redundant. It's just the voiceactor's voice. What if it were to be a Chinese voiceactor, would that be notable? No. If the talk page contains good discussions that directly affects the content of the article (such as verifying rumours or expanding facts), then it can stay.

To OrionF22: Problem is that the talk page contains discussion which is irrelevant to the article itself. We do not delete talk pages without any proper reasoning. If it were to contain social discussion which does not improve/enhance the article itself, what's the point of having a talk page?- 5əb'7aŋk^(7alk) 21:15, December 15, 2009 (UTC)

"Actually, it's not notable. It is redundant. It's just the voiceactor's voice. What if it were to be a Chinese voiceactor, would that be notable?"

— You

That right there sounds worth mentioning in the talk page so you don't have to have the same issue again with another editor. What if you encounter this problem again? Had you left that part of the talk page alone, the editor might have been smart enough to look at it and realize that it had already been addressed. For this reason I believe that any piece of information referring to the article, no matter how seemingly irrelevant, should be left alone, so that some bozo doesn't repeat the same thing all over again. I understand why you would want to remove the social aspects, but if this socializing is discussing the article and what to do with it, then that too should be left alone. I thought that was what a talk page was for. So far, I haven't seen anything in a talk page worth deleting.

There is probably some two-watt out there who put something ridiculous in a talk page (or will). Perhaps it was a duplicate. That should be deleted, but perhaps a new subtopic should be created addressing the deletion of such content? This would allow users to chip in and voice their opinions as to the relevancy of this article, instead of just deleting it outright and leaving some users inquisitive as to why.

File:Gunnery Sergeant.png  ΘяɪɸɴF22    Me    Talk    Contributions    CAG   21:24, December 15, 2009 (UTC)

Halopedia is not a social site. If they insist on doing so, just use the Message Board feature provided by Wikia. Again, if it is related to the article and it could improve the article, it would stay. If the discussion strays off from the original topic, then it will be removed.

Regarding the voiceactor issue, it would be far better to have a link to the voiceactor profile (example, "He/She was voiced by INSERT VOICEACTOR HERE) rather than having a trivia which goes as such "This SPARTAN has an English accent" which is redundant and does not give any real information. This has been put into practise in Halopedia ever since it was first created.- 5əb'7aŋk^(7alk) 21:36, December 15, 2009 (UTC)

I understand non-relevent topics will be removed. I'm not arguing that they stay. I am arguing that minor, seemingly inconsequential topics be left in so that something similar is not repeated. Otherwise you may have to deal with 100s of editors thinking the mention of an accent is noteworthy. I see how it looks so insignificant and trivial that it should be forgotten, but I argue that it stay so you don't have similar problems down the road. Additionally, this should reduce the number of pointless or trivial edits if users can look at the talk page and see that what they want to put in is already addressed.

File:Gunnery Sergeant.png  ΘяɪɸɴF22    Me    Talk    Contributions    CAG   21:48, December 15, 2009 (UTC)

I understand. :)

Just a suggestion: Keep the signature simple. :P - 5əb'7aŋk^(7alk) 21:54, December 15, 2009 (UTC)

Yes this Wiki isn’t a social site. But a debate on whether or not the accent is notable is exactly why the talk page is there. So we can decide what relevance the information has, and lay out arguments for/against inclusion. And we do have precedence, for example it is considered notable that Byrne is the only Irish character seen thus far in Halo. Further I would consider it notable to mention if a character had a Chinese accent. It’s an integral part of their character, or at least it influences the way they are interpreted, a filter through which the user percieves them. --Sandor051 12:58, December 16, 2009 (UTC)

"Regarding the voiceactor issue, it would be far better to have a link to the voiceactor profile (example, "He/She was voiced by INSERT VOICEACTOR HERE) rather than having a trivia which goes as such "This SPARTAN has an English accent" which is redundant and does not give any real information. This has been put into practise in Halopedia ever since it was first created."

— Accent issue

Again, the solution to this issue is not to mention what accent they have, but to point out who is the voiceactor. This issue has been resolved in the past.- 5əb'7aŋk^(7alk) 13:43, December 16, 2009 (UTC)

Subtank, I'm not even sure why you're a moderator. There's a talk page for a reason, to discuss facts and to see if it's relevant to add into the page. To discuss what seems to be irrelevant and then see if it's relevant enough to some people to add in. That's what the point is. You even told me that. However, you keep walking into the talk pages and wiping them clean because they are discussing "irrelevant information" even if it is quazi-relevant. You're contradicting yourself. Try harder next time.

FlamingRain 21:49, December 21, 2009 (UTC)

Did you not read any of the above statements? Subtank wipes sections that are irrelevant, social or unneeded discussions. I have seen this in all the wipes she has done. If a discussion topic isn't relevant to the article, or its plain unneeded or obvious, it goes off. - File:Major.png Nìcmávr ^(Tálk) 21:52, December 21, 2009 (UTC)

Yet is that not the point of a talk page? To determine the relevancy of new information? That's what it was last time I checked. Once the information is agreed upon as irrelevant by the contributions of other users on the talk page, then it could be removed, but I believe it should stay, so that no one else down the line asks the same question. File:Gunnery Sergeant.png  ΘяɪɸɴF22    Me    Talk    Contributions    CAG   21:57, December 21, 2009 (UTC)

Yes, but that's when a discussion topic is unclear whether or not its relevant. If something is clearly unneeded, social or plain obvious discussion, there isn't a need to consult before removal. Yes, a talk page is for discussion in accordance to an article, yes it is to determine relevancy for information. But I repeat, if a discussion topic is clearly unneeded, its to be removed. Take this case for example. Or in this, in which she restored relevant discussion content. Subtank doesn't go into talk pages and madly start deleting or restoring whatever she likes. There's a reason she (and others who do it) do that. - File:Major.png Nìcmávr ^(Tálk) 22:09, December 21, 2009 (UTC)

I understand that. I know Subtank does not have a motive for spontaneously deleting material from talk pages, nor was I implying that she did/does. What I am saying is exactly what you are saying, with the exception that certain 'unneeded' material be left alone. This material is previous information that was posted to determine its relevancy to the article. I suggest it be left there so no one else in the future asks the same question, i.e. you determine that the fact that Pelicans share similarities with the V-22 Osprey is irrelevant to the Pelican article in the talk page, then I would say leave that discussion there so another user does not ask that same question later. If you leave it there, then perhaps that user will see it before editing, thus preventing the whole thing from repeating itself. Saves the admins some time, as well as other users. File:Gunnery Sergeant.png  ΘяɪɸɴF22    Me    Talk    Contributions    CAG   01:39, December 22, 2009 (UTC)

Why lock the page?

Would you like to explain why you locked the lone wolf page for noble team? now that Microsoft has confirmed that he is a spartan 3 nobody but an ad min can edit the page (and of course) get the points that shouldn't even be theirs. im all for improving,but locking that pages till December 2010 wasn't a smart move at all.```grey101

http://news.teamxbox.com/xbox/21746/Microsoft-Confirms-Spartan-IIIs-in-Halo-Reach/

It is locked, like with the Rookie, because of Speculation, vandalism and all that, they want facts with proof. ~Enlightment~ 10:06, December 18, 2009 (UTC)

"but an ad min can edit the page (and of course) get the points that shouldn't even be theirs." ...lol. Quit your whining. Points don't even matter. Most likely, it was locked (like most pages that are locked) because of excessively stupid edits. Smoke^{Sound off!} 15:02, December 18, 2009 (UTC)

Subtank: Because you are one of the last persons who edited the article and have the power to do it now, I request you to edit the Noble Six article to at least not say Spartan-II when all sources (http://news.teamxbox.com/xbox/21746/Microsoft-Confirms-Spartan-IIIs-in-Halo-Reach/) point to it not being true.Mutoid Chief 20:27, December 18, 2009 (UTC)

That's ONE article for christ sake... not some "Oh yes, it says so, so it MUST be right" Don't believe everything you read... particularly when there is ONE article on it! ~Enlightment~ 20:46, December 18, 2009 (UTC)

Hey

Subtank, I was just looking back on the Drone page, I'm gonna add a link or something for my little research study for the colour/possible rank variation soon when its complete. Anyway, I guess maybe I was having a bad day, but I didn't realise how pissy I was about it:

"Subtank I know you have a high rep, and that's been gained by doing a lot of good things, but "the reasoning that it's not actually a "real" rank because it's in firefight" is completely absurd. You are inducing your own pic 'n' mix, personal canon and pulling it over the rest of the community. Despite whatever good you've done, I'm not going to respond lightly to this, because to me that's crossing the line..." And so on...

Anyway, I'd like to apologise. I'm sorry. I was a bit overzealous and I can't shoot you down for having an opinion and just editing with the facts you had. You're doing a great job as an admin of the Halo wikia, keep going. Merry Christmas and peace out. -TheLostJedi 19:22, 25 December 2009 (GMT)

I understand your confusion over this matter, but I'm only relaying the information I have at my disposal. I would never introduce new rules or conclusions without a discussion. Anyway, it has been established that certain aspects of multiplayer are considered non-canon as stated previously by a Bungie Employee back during the release of Halo 2. I can't recall when it was mentioned or where I could find it (Bungie.net doesn't archive its past news). So, by all means, please do your research and inform me. :D - 5əb'7aŋk^(7alk) 18:20, December 26, 2009 (UTC)

Blog Series

Hi, Subtank. As the only female administrator, would you please take a look at my Examination of Female Characters (part 1, part 2) articles and tell me what you think? --Dragonclaws^(talk) 10:49, January 12, 2010 (UTC)

AV-14 Attack VTOL

Dear Subtank.

I want to know why did you delete my editing in the Hornet Article. It has bad grammar or what?

189.124.158.85 19:01, January 21, 2010 (UTC)

Action Figure Question

Looking at the McFarlane Toys website, I realized that there were many figures that did not go with the original series. Would you like them to be put into seperate articles? If so, then how would we fit these into the McFarlane template? --File:Colonel Grade One.png  General5 7    talk    contribs    email   18:02, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

Maybe namespacing it like McFarlane Toys/Series 1 for the series, and for the odd ones as McFarlane Toys/Miscellaneous? That would be the best way to solve this little problem. Using this way, we could just add a Miscellaneous to the template.- 5əb'7aŋk^(7alk) 21:28, January 23, 2010 (UTC)

So, to be clear, the page, McFarlane Heroic Collection Series, would be moved to McFarlane Toys/Miscellaneous/Heroic Collection Series?File:Colonel Grade One.png  General5 7    talk    contribs    email  

Well, it appears there's a Legendary and Heroic series, so I would suggest moving to McFarlane Toys/Legendary Series for the Legendary series and vice versa. For those individual figurines such as the 12-inch Master Chief, redirect/move them to McFarlane Toys/Miscellaneous.- 5əb'7aŋk^(7alk) 21:13, January 24, 2010 (UTC)

Would you prefer the McFarlane Toys/Miscellaneous page to be arranged alphabetically, or according to their types (i.e. Campaign, Multiplayer, etc.)? File:Colonel Grade One.png  General5 7    talk    contribs    email  

Page Backgrounds

Hello, I was just wondering how you added different backgrounds to the pages (Rookie, ODST, ect.) because I can copy and paste that code but I do not know how to insert a new image into it. Thanks - ShadowBroker44 ^{(TALK) (CONTRIBS)} 03:47, January 26, 2010 (UTC)

Just copy the following:

{|style="width:100%; color:#FFF;"
|valign="top" style="padding:10px;" class="odst"|

Replace "odst" with one of the following:

".odst"

".oni"

".rookie"

Note, I'll be adding more custom background to the Common.css in February. :D - 5əb'7aŋk^(7alk) 11:59, January 26, 2010 (UTC)

Ignore the period signs in her list. Classes are prefixed with periods in CSS, but not when used in HTML.  DavidJCobb  01:11, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

Tyrone111 Userbox

Why do you keep deleting my Userbox? Tyrone File:Tyrone111Xbox Avatar.png ^{The mastermind would like to speak!} 05:05, January 27, 2010 (UTC)

DMR

I'll ask you since you're online. You might have noticed my edit to the DMR page. Do you think that MA4577B1 has anything to do with the rifle's full name? //--TehK (tok) 01:28, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

It could be the title of the rifle.- 5əb'7aŋk^(7alk) 01:33, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

Then should the page title be edited, or should we wait for more info? //--TehK (tok) 01:36, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

Wait for more info.- 5əb'7aŋk^(7alk) 01:40, January 28, 2010 (UTC)

Spelling

Just to be clear, UK spelling is adopted as universal in the international theater. Ergo, it is not just used in the UK. Are you sure that US spelling should dominate in this wikia, even though it is accessed by an international public?--Plasmic Physics 00:26, January 29, 2010 (UTC)

As much as I hate to say this, yes.- 5əb'7aŋk^(7alk) 00:28, January 29, 2010 (UTC)

My User Page

What happened to my user page? It's completely different and I didn't make any of those changes. Where is my old page that I had but mere days ago? File:Lieutenant Grade One.png  ΘяɪɸɴF22    Me    Talk    Contributions    CAG   18:01, February 2, 2010 (UTC)

I see that it's my wiki page that was changed. I'm confused now. Why was it changed? File:Lieutenant Grade One.png  ΘяɪɸɴF22    Me    Talk    Contributions    CAG   18:01, February 2, 2010 (UTC)

You've uploaded a duplicate image, thus I removed it from your Wiki page.- 5əb'7aŋk^(7alk) 18:08, February 2, 2010 (UTC)

Halo Legends

I've recently watched the remaining episodes of Halo Legends via internet leak and I was Wondering if I could add info to the Halo Legends articles without my contributions being removed (BTW if you I are Questioning my morale, I intend on buying the DVD on the first day of release).--<SCROTE> 16:16, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

The Spoilers Policy only covers Game information and not other media, so yes you can. This loophole will be fixed shortly.

Note: Morality and Respect doesn't apply in the internet. They are myths. Internet is srs biz in a way that it triumphs over all products of the world! No one can control it!- 5əb'7aŋk^(7alk) 16:21, February 3, 2010 (UTC)

Homecoming

Its kinda obvious that Ralph is ether not a spartan or his tag is not 303 because its not possible. Also the rule for cannon stuff here is we only add stuff if it doesnt contradict previous established cannon. And having a spartan with a tag higher than 150 contradicts previous cannon. --Philyboy2010 19:42, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

That is partly true... however, the canon of the number of active SPARTAN-IIs established by FoR has been contradicted countless times by newer media (Halo Wars, Halo Legends). So, as of now, it is best to just ignore the established canon until Frank O'Connor provides an explanation why so.- 5əb'7aŋk^(7alk) 19:46, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

still having a done of spartans dieing is one thing but totally changing there tag is something we just cant tolerate

But the fans do not determine what is canon and what is not canon. We can surely oppose such official canon but we cannot deny that it is official information.- 5əb'7aŋk^(7alk) 19:53, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

well we surtanly denied some things from the halo encyclopedia—This unsigned comment was made by Philyboy2010 (talk • contribs). Please sign your posts with ~~~~

Because it has breached one of the established canon and also defying the entrenched laws of physics.- 5əb'7aŋk^(7alk) 19:56, February 7, 2010 (UTC)

Glitches

I finished adding the templates and categories, and I'm about to start finishing the template. - File:Major.png ShadowBroker44 00:23, February 9, 2010 (UTC)

Charlie 1

This regarding the article I made about Charlie 1. You can go ahead and delete it, it was just that I had never made a/an article myself before, thought that the character was worth including, and was good practice incase I wanted to edit other articles.--Crash-test-halo 11:16, February 9, 2010 (UTC)

Legit image?

Is this image you posted on the Halo: Reach article legit? Where did you get it from?

Halo: Reach Alpha build menu.

II Helljumper II 18:53, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

From the X10 Conference.- 5əb'7aŋk^(7alk) 18:54, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

Did you go to it then? II Helljumper II 18:57, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

Yes.- 5əb'7aŋk^(7alk) 19:07, February 15, 2010 (UTC)

Fixing Transcripts

Alright, I'll try to do a better job next time. --Kronos101 13:13, February 17, 2010 (UTC)

Proper image

I found this image in the Mgalekgolo article. I believe it should be deleted because its too blur.--^{Odysseas-Spartan}53 08:05, February 18, 2010 (UTC)

About File:Possible halo dinosaurs.JPG

I have re-uploaded the image for better lighting and textures as you requested. Sorry for the duplicates though, I was having trouble making it appear and forgot about the "your image may need 2 minutes to appear" statement. By the way, how do you make signatures link to our user pages? I'm a beginner at this. :P TuahA 15:45, March 3, 2010 (UTC)14:17, March 3, 2010 (UTC)

Head over to Special:Preferences and add your signature in Signature box. Make sure the Raw Signature checkbox is checked/marked.

P.S. Copy the following and add in the Signature box:

<b>[[User:Tuaha|<span style="color:red;">T</span><span style="color:orange;">u''a''h</span><span style="color:red;">A</span>]]</b>

.

P.S.S. Make sure you switch off the Rich Text Editor feature by heading to Special:Preferences, select editing and check/mark off the Rich Text Editor checkbox. It is known for causing bugs and errors.- 5əb'7aŋk^(7alk) 14:18, March 3, 2010 (UTC)

from VGH

greeting subtank i have seen your edits here and i would like to offer you an invitation to V G H to help contribute of any game character, level, or game, its your choice and if u make 50 edits u get rollback u make 100 u will become an admin so click on the colored link letters and join us!

Jonathan Smith (talk)

Just wanted to be clear

I'm being totally frank here, not trying to start anything, but you left a warning for making multiple edits in an article on my talkpage, and I just wanted to know which page you were talking about. I've been doing kind of a lot of editing lately. Thanks, Captain J 02:55, March 4, 2010 (UTC)

Some clarification?

Hey there Subtank, I just noticed that you blocked the user Lordaki for 2 years for being 12 years old, citing wikia's terms of use as a reason for this. You also stated that he would be able to return when he was 14, as per terms of use. However, don't the terms of use state that one must be 13 years old to edit wiki, not 14? As quoted, "intended solely for users who are thirteen (13) years of age or older" and "warrant that you are 13 or older". Unless I am missing something here, the block should be shortened to one year upon the user turning 13. If I am missing something, could you please clarify? Thanks, BLADEBANE Anti-Vandal 04:29, March 15, 2010 (UTC)Blade bane

Did I blocked him for two years? :O

Must've been an error on my behalf. >.> - 5əb'7aŋk^(7alk) 13:39, March 15, 2010 (UTC)

About the header

Hi, I was just wondering how you put the news header about what's going on in Halopedia above the articles. I don't know if you were the one who first put it there, but I'm pretty sure you know how to make one. Not that I plan to edit it, but I'm planning on making one for another wikia. PX173 07:31, March 19, 2010 (UTC)

MediaWiki:Sitenotice.- 5əb'7aŋk^(7alk) 13:29, March 19, 2010 (UTC)

Editing Summaries

Why did you remove that trivia from the Recon armor page? I'm not saying I necessarily agree with it, but I'd like to know why, since you don't provide edit summaries. They all say m, whatever that means. It looks like you just remove content because you don't like it.

Also, that VGH guy above doesn't know how to close his spans, so I added some </span> tags to close them off so the rest of your page wasn't rendered with his signature font or his colors. It does that in IE 8, so I can only assume other browsers rendered this page like that as well. File:Lieutenant Grade One.png  ΘяɪɸɴF22    Me    Talk    Contributions    CAG   17:39, March 23, 2010 (UTC)

Refer to H:NOT. If the user thinks such should be mentioned, post it up in the talk page.

Regarding VGH: Not sure what you meant as it looked fine to me. Must be an IE8 bug/error. Get Firefox or Chrome. ;) - 5əb'7aŋk^(7alk) 18:07, March 23, 2010 (UTC)

I know the policy on speculation and such. I didn't necessarily agree with the trivia fact either. But I asked this question to find out why you don't give edit summaries as often. It is in the guidelines, so I was just wondering. In my opinion, when stuff like that happens where you delete content without a summary, it sometimes looks like you're just doing what you want to it. Please take no accusation charges from this. I'm just stating what I think here. Example: when you deleted the list of changes between Halo: CE and Halo 2...as I recall, I was one of two people to post on the talk page concerning its deletion. Yet it was deleted anyway. I do not know if there is some policy where if no one fights for an article's existence for x amount of days then it is deleted, but it looked like you just wanted it gone and just assumed everyone else felt that way.

Regarding the rendering errors: I'm guessing IE 8 doesn't use hte latest version of HTML, so Firefox or Chrome will automatically end tags and the right places, but IE 8 is more literal (hey, it's Microsoft), so it needed the closing span tags. I suspect I'm not the only one. Just thought I'd fix it. I do have both browsers, but Chrome sometimes can't access Google or Youtube, so I stopped using it. And I don't like the way Firefox looks, and haven't gotten around to customizing it yet. But I suspect I'll change soon. File:Lieutenant Grade One.png  ΘяɪɸɴF22    Me    Talk    Contributions    CAG   19:02, March 23, 2010 (UTC)

Regarding the "List of Changes...": I was under the assumption that we all agreed on its deletion since all of the information has been covered in their respective articles. As such, I don't see any reason why we need the article to be floating around in Halopedia. It is an administrative convention which goes like "once the main article covers everything from the duplicated article, the duplicated article should be removed from Halopedia". A perfect on-going ^(?) project that illustrates this is the Action Figure project which aims on merging all action figure articles into one massive article, with the previous removed from Halopedia.

Regarding editing summaries; I wasn't aware I left it blank. I apologise. It should have been "Redundant" in the edit summary. Odd that it didn't appear automatically in the drop down menu...- 5əb'7aŋk^(7alk) 21:52, March 23, 2010 (UTC)

I understand the conventions for deleting duplicate articles, but as I said in that talk page and I believe yours as well, not everything in the list of changes article was covered in their respective articles. Specifically, the Pelican. I have not seen any mention of landing gear on its page. I suppose such information could be added tehre, but I also think it would be useful to have the list article left alone, so other users could see a clear and concise list of all the changes, just as merging the action figure articles is aimed at giving the users a clear and concise list of all the figures out there. File:Lieutenant Grade One.png  ΘяɪɸɴF22    Me    Talk    Contributions    CAG   22:25, March 23, 2010 (UTC)