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== More old ideas reused? ==
== More old ideas reused? ==
In [[The art of Halo]], it mentions somewhere that there was a early plan for Halo to be a hollow planet. Sound familiar? [[User talk:PoopskinTheLiar|-[[Talk:Poopskintheliar|Poopskintheliar]], Local retrocomputing geek.]] 16:07, 2 April 2009 (UTC)
In [[The Art of Halo]], it mentions somewhere that there was a early plan for Halo to be a hollow planet. Sound familiar? [[User talk:PoopskinTheLiar|-[[Talk:Poopskintheliar|Poopskintheliar]], Local retrocomputing geek.]] 16:07, 2 April 2009 (UTC)


== Confusion ==
== Confusion ==
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::I guess Ensemble just wanted to include those elements (Arcadia, Flood) without really thinking of the story for them. I also feel the story is really simplistic and shallow compared to the gritty and complex military sci-fi of the novels. They should've hired Eric Nylund to write the game, as he's the one who basically created the "prequel" universe for Halo. I think the story would've turned out a lot more obedient to the previous canon and more importantly, to the atmosphere itself.  --[[User talk:Jugus|Jugus]] 19:39, 16 April 2009 (UTC)
::I guess Ensemble just wanted to include those elements (Arcadia, Flood) without really thinking of the story for them. I also feel the story is really simplistic and shallow compared to the gritty and complex military sci-fi of the novels. They should've hired Eric Nylund to write the game, as he's the one who basically created the "prequel" universe for Halo. I think the story would've turned out a lot more obedient to the previous canon and more importantly, to the atmosphere itself.  --[[User talk:Jugus|Jugus]] 19:39, 16 April 2009 (UTC)


:::I got the impression that Ensemble wanted to tell an epic story on par with the Bungie games, but didn't get to because of time constraints. I would have liked a bit more fleshing out of Arcadia and the Shield World - the latter made a little sense, I guess, but Arcadia just seems like it was tossed in there to get away from Harvest and show a bit of environmental variation. -- <b>[[Halopedia:Administrators|<font color=indigo>Administrator</font>]] [[User:Specops306|<font color=indigo>Specops306</font>]] - ''[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=blue>Qur'a 'Morhek</font>]]'' <sup>''[[w:c:halofanon:Operation: HOT GATES|<u><font color=purple>Honour Light Your Way!</font></u>]]''</sup></b> 00:07, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
:::I got the impression that Ensemble wanted to tell an epic story on par with the Bungie games, but didn't get to because of time constraints. I would have liked a bit more fleshing out of Arcadia and the Shield World - the latter made a little sense, I guess, but Arcadia just seems like it was tossed in there to get away from Harvest and show a bit of environmental variation. -- <b>[[Halopedia:Administrators|<font color=indigo>Administrator</font>]] [[User:Specops306|<font color=indigo>Specops306</font>]] - ''[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=blue>Qur'a 'Morhek</font>]]'' <sup>''[[halofanon:Operation: HOT GATES|<u><font color=purple>Honour Light Your Way!</font></u>]]''</sup></b> 00:07, 24 August 2009 (UTC)
::::is this really so difficult to grasp, during the war for dominance beetween the flood and hte forerunners this world was the sight of a major battle beetween the two races. Obviously the flood were trying to cut off forerunner connection to one of its docking stations. Probably a storage facility for old starships possibly a factory for creating new ones. Either way the flood won the battle and cut off the forerunners from a major source of war machines.
::::is this really so difficult to grasp, during the war for dominance beetween the flood and hte forerunners this world was the sight of a major battle beetween the two races. Obviously the flood were trying to cut off forerunner connection to one of its docking stations. Probably a storage facility for old starships possibly a factory for creating new ones. Either way the flood won the battle and cut off the forerunners from a major source of war machines.
==Name change?==
==Name change?==
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:Agreed. "Flood-controlled Shield World" seems like a suitable title, considering how most of our articles already refer to it as such. It's not official, but it should be clear to everyone it's just a description. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 15:29, 14 April 2011 (EDT)
:Agreed. "Flood-controlled Shield World" seems like a suitable title, considering how most of our articles already refer to it as such. It's not official, but it should be clear to everyone it's just a description. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 15:29, 14 April 2011 (EDT)
::And if not, we can put one of those "not named in canon, just a description" templates on the article.--[[User talk:The All-knowing Sith&#39;ari|The All-knowing Sith&#39;ari]] 15:46, 14 April 2011 (EDT)
::And if not, we can put one of those "not named in canon, just a description" templates on the article.--[[User talk:The All-knowing Sith&#39;ari|The All-knowing Sith&#39;ari]] 15:46, 14 April 2011 (EDT)
== Rename ==
Given our trend of using the proper name rather than technical designation of shield worlds, we might as well retitle this one. Out of the two names given in the Loot Crate, I personally prefer "Etran Harborage" and given the wording in [[:File:LC 004 Doc2.jpg|the data drop]] it comes off to me as the more solid pick ("formally known as the Etran Harborage" vs. the "loosely translated" Trove). --[[User:Jugus|Jugus]] ([[User talk:Jugus|talk]]) 10:15, 9 March 2017 (EST)
:I've gone ahead and began to make the necessary changes to the articles regarding the shield world i.e. replacing references of "Shield World 0459" to "the Etran Harborage". I agree with the current trend - Much prefer the "Battle of Requiem" to the "Battle of Shield World 001"xD [[User:ArcticGhostXCV|ArcticGhostXCV]] ([[User talk:ArcticGhostXCV|talk]]) 05:25, 30 April 2017 (EDT)
==Rename to Trove==
In light of the [[Halo Encyclopedia (2022 edition)]]'s fairly consistent use of the name Trove to describe the planet throughout the book (perhaps most prominently, naming it Trove in the same context as it names Genesis, Bastion, Requiem, Onyx etc), I've moved this page and related articles to the name Trove - and am currently botting the link updates. Right now, I suspect the Etran Harborage name is perhaps ''specifically'' the docking port for the Sojourners inside, but that's too sketchy to put on the article currently. [[User:BaconShelf|<span style="color:green;">BaconShelf</span>]] <span style="font-size:90%">([[User:BaconShelf|talk]])</span> 13:59, May 29, 2022 (EDT)