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Well, yanme'e are in Tier 2 in the Forerunner Technological Advancement Scale, so maybe they made a space suit...? [[User:PsychoThunder|PsychoThunder]] | Well, yanme'e are in Tier 2 in the Forerunner Technological Advancement Scale, so maybe they made a space suit...? [[User:PsychoThunder|PsychoThunder]] | ||
They are adopted Tier 2, which means that they are only Tier 2 because of their induction into the | They are adopted Tier 2, which means that they are only Tier 2 because of their induction into the Covenant. COD}} | ||
Sorry to ask and feel like a noob but when are drones found in space i can't find a source anywhere? Can they fight in space and if so how do they move? [[User talk:RussellofSwinhart|RussellofSwinhart]] 00:11, 24 July 2012 (EDT) | Sorry to ask and feel like a noob but when are drones found in space i can't find a source anywhere? Can they fight in space and if so how do they move? [[User talk:RussellofSwinhart|RussellofSwinhart]] 00:11, 24 July 2012 (EDT) | ||
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Plasma Pistols, and needlers. [[User talk:BrChamp|BrChamp]] 00:11, 17 August 2009 (UTC) | Plasma Pistols, and needlers. [[User talk:BrChamp|BrChamp]] 00:11, 17 August 2009 (UTC) | ||
Angry Plasma Rifles (lol) in ODST - Orangeyellowbluething (Not going to use the four tildes, 'cos then my text is in an annoying box. Sorry for any inconvenience) | |||
== Discs == | == Discs == | ||
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== Shouldn't we add.... == | == Shouldn't we add.... == | ||
...something about their society? --[[ | ...something about their society? --[[wikia:godzilla:User:Lordofmonsterisland|<font color="green">The Lord of Monster Island</font>]] <sup>[[wikia:unhalo:User:Lordofmonsterisland|<font color=#660099>The Lord of Grunts</font>]]</sup> <sub>[[halowikia:User:Lordofmonsterisland|<font color=#FFCC00>SPARTAN-012 James</font>]]</sub> <sup>[[halofanon:User:Lordofmonsterisland|<font color=#00FF00>MCPO James Davis</font>]]</sup> <sub>[[User talk:Lordofmonsterisland|<font color=#33FFFF>I here your cries</font>]]</sub> <sup>[[Special:Contributions/Lordofmonsterisland|<font color=#CC3333>May your works be honorable</font>]]</sup> 20:40, 4 January 2008 (UTC) | ||
== Drones And Guardian == | == Drones And Guardian == | ||
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:Creating those ranks would be introducing fanon. Present an official source (other than H3:ODST) which states that Drones have a ranking system. What LostJedi stated in "Difference of Ranks ingame(ODST)" makes sense due to the fact that these Drones are a collective hive... and that being the Queen. The Prophets manipulate the Drone Queen which manipulates the Drones, like Bees. | :Creating those ranks would be introducing fanon. Present an official source (other than H3:ODST) which states that Drones have a ranking system. What LostJedi stated in "Difference of Ranks ingame(ODST)" makes sense due to the fact that these Drones are a collective hive... and that being the Queen. The Prophets manipulate the Drone Queen which manipulates the Drones, like Bees. | ||
:Elite, Grunt, Jackal and Brute Ranks (except Jump Pack Brute) have been verified by Bungie via Bungie Updates, Guides and Novels. I don't see any source pointing out that these Jump Pack Brutes having any '''official''' rank, other than that one screenshot in Subtank's talk page. | :Elite, Grunt, Jackal and Brute Ranks (except Jump Pack Brute) have been verified by Bungie via Bungie Updates, Guides and Novels. I don't see any source pointing out that these Jump Pack Brutes having any '''official''' rank, other than that one screenshot in Subtank's talk page. | ||
:Although common sense would say "Do IT", the Canon | :Although common sense would say "Do IT", the Canon policy says otherwise and as per policy, I would say hold off creating these ranks.<b>[[User:-Ascension-|<font color="#5D8AA8">外<font color="#9BDDFF">国</font>人</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:-Ascension-|<font color="#5D8AA8">7alk</font>]])</sup></b> 01:43, January 11, 2010 (UTC) | ||
::The colouring system is a lot more significant than Halo 3's colour variations on Sangheili ranks (ie. dark blue Minor Domo, light blue Minor Domo). It would appear that there are different ranks in the game. However, I believe that they are armour variations, rather than an exoskeleton. My evidence is the mysterious blue objects sticking out of their backs, which appear to be artificial in origin. The colours would explain an armour, as well. I'm not sure if the queen would be able to simply make different produce for different roles, with their variations being colour and strength... insectoid variations are usually based on Able to mate, unable to mate... where those who can't become workers and soldiers, while those who can grow wings and do a lot of mating, where the female grows a huge belly to carry the potentially hundreds of eggs.-- '''[[User:Forerunner|<font color="blue">Fore</font>]]''[[User talk:Forerunner|<font color="green">run</font>]]''[[Special:Contributions/Forerunner|<font color="red">ner</font>]]''' 01:52, January 11, 2010 (UTC) | ::The colouring system is a lot more significant than Halo 3's colour variations on Sangheili ranks (ie. dark blue Minor Domo, light blue Minor Domo). It would appear that there are different ranks in the game. However, I believe that they are armour variations, rather than an exoskeleton. My evidence is the mysterious blue objects sticking out of their backs, which appear to be artificial in origin. The colours would explain an armour, as well. I'm not sure if the queen would be able to simply make different produce for different roles, with their variations being colour and strength... insectoid variations are usually based on Able to mate, unable to mate... where those who can't become workers and soldiers, while those who can grow wings and do a lot of mating, where the female grows a huge belly to carry the potentially hundreds of eggs.-- '''[[User:Forerunner|<font color="blue">Fore</font>]]''[[User talk:Forerunner|<font color="green">run</font>]]''[[Special:Contributions/Forerunner|<font color="red">ner</font>]]''' 01:52, January 11, 2010 (UTC) | ||
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:::As for Forerunner, those blue objects have actually been confirmed to be anti-gravity generators to assist in flight on heavier worlds. They are attached to the Yanme'e exoskeleton.--[[User talk:Nerfherder1428|Nerfherder1428]] 20:49, January 11, 2010 (UTC) | :::As for Forerunner, those blue objects have actually been confirmed to be anti-gravity generators to assist in flight on heavier worlds. They are attached to the Yanme'e exoskeleton.--[[User talk:Nerfherder1428|Nerfherder1428]] 20:49, January 11, 2010 (UTC) | ||
{{Quote|it seems that only two Drone ranks are present, hinting that the second might just be a Drone Major. So, I would say that LostJedi's implication of the colour as a sign of maturity might be correct|My reply on LostJedi's theory}} | {{Quote|it seems that only two Drone ranks are present, hinting that the second might just be a Drone Major. So, I would say that LostJedi's implication of the colour as a sign of maturity might be correct|My reply on LostJedi's theory}} | ||
::::I would like to point out that the above comment was to show that it is entirely possible/likely that these two ranks are only exclusive only to the Yanme'e species. Seeing that these Yanme'e are insectoid, and as such, follows an insect nature, it is more likely that they would go with the "Queen, Worker, Warrior" rank rather than having a complex military structure like the rest of the Covenant species. As you stated previously, they are a collective mind that responds only to the Queen, which I presume, is under control of the three High Prophets. With that said, it is unlikely that there is a special group of Yanme'e with ranks higher than a Major Yanme'e (which I consider to be the elder warrior when compared to the minor Yanme'e which is a younger warrior). It is likely that these odd colour variations we see in Halo 3: ODST are just maturity as pointed by LostJedi. Thus, I conclude that there is no such thing as a Yanme'e Ultra or a Yanme'e Stealth as it is completely absurd for Yanme'e to lead a | ::::I would like to point out that the above comment was to show that it is entirely possible/likely that these two ranks are only exclusive only to the Yanme'e species. Seeing that these Yanme'e are insectoid, and as such, follows an insect nature, it is more likely that they would go with the "Queen, Worker, Warrior" rank rather than having a complex military structure like the rest of the Covenant species. As you stated previously, they are a collective mind that responds only to the Queen, which I presume, is under control of the three High Prophets. With that said, it is unlikely that there is a special group of Yanme'e with ranks higher than a Major Yanme'e (which I consider to be the elder warrior when compared to the minor Yanme'e which is a younger warrior). It is likely that these odd colour variations we see in Halo 3: ODST are just maturity as pointed by LostJedi. Thus, I conclude that there is no such thing as a Yanme'e Ultra or a Yanme'e Stealth as it is completely absurd for Yanme'e to lead a lance of other Covenant species. Again, they are a collective mind, and as such, they follow the orders of the Queen. Ranks are nonsensical in the insect nature, the only exceptions are the [[Unmutuals]].- <font face="Century Gothic">[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></font> 21:45, January 11, 2010 (UTC) | ||
::::But can the worker/soldier class not be further subdivided? You bring up a valid point that these drones take orders from the Queen and do not need a rank structure in those regards. But would it be outside the realms of reason to think that there would be captains to oversee an operation and deliver a queen's wishes to the rest of the swarm. To delegate tasks among separate groups of subordinates? At any rate, I find it highly, HIGHLY unlikely that the Drones exoskeletons just happen to change to the full spectrum of visible light over the course of their lives. I still think that the most common sense theory is that the Covenant tried to instill their rank structure ON the drones. And not to lead a lance of other species, but to lead a lance of other Yanme'e. Unfortunately, these are all just theories that can't be proven. Perhaps a letter would be suitable? I'm not under any illusions that we'd get a reply quickly.--[[User talk:Nerfherder1428|Nerfherder1428]] 11:49, January 12, 2010 (UTC) | ::::But can the worker/soldier class not be further subdivided? You bring up a valid point that these drones take orders from the Queen and do not need a rank structure in those regards. But would it be outside the realms of reason to think that there would be captains to oversee an operation and deliver a queen's wishes to the rest of the swarm. To delegate tasks among separate groups of subordinates? At any rate, I find it highly, HIGHLY unlikely that the Drones exoskeletons just happen to change to the full spectrum of visible light over the course of their lives. I still think that the most common sense theory is that the Covenant tried to instill their rank structure ON the drones. And not to lead a lance of other species, but to lead a lance of other Yanme'e. Unfortunately, these are all just theories that can't be proven. Perhaps a letter would be suitable? I'm not under any illusions that we'd get a reply quickly.--[[User talk:Nerfherder1428|Nerfherder1428]] 11:49, January 12, 2010 (UTC) | ||
{{Quote|I still think that the most common sense theory is that the Covenant tried to instill their rank structure ON the drones|[[User talk:Nerfherder1428|Nerfherder1428]]}} | {{Quote|I still think that the most common sense theory is that the Covenant tried to instill their rank structure ON the drones|[[User talk:Nerfherder1428|Nerfherder1428]]}} | ||
:::::Please note that not all Covenant species have rank structures like the Jiralhanae/Sangheili/Unggoy. In my opinion, these ranks you mention applies only to the "main forces", which are the J/S/U. I believe that "support forces" such as Kig-yar, Mgalekgolo and Yanme'e would not require such complex rank structure as their main purpose is to support the main forces. This is supported with the lack of rank structure in both Kig-yar (Minor, Major, Marksman) and Mgalekgolo. Note that I didn't include the Kig-yar as Shipmistress/master as that is an entirely irrelevant rank to this issue. | :::::Please note that not all Covenant species have rank structures like the Jiralhanae/Sangheili/Unggoy. In my opinion, these ranks you mention applies only to the "main forces", which are the J/S/U. I believe that "support forces" such as Kig-yar, Mgalekgolo and Yanme'e would not require such complex rank structure as their main purpose is to support the main forces. This is supported with the lack of rank structure in both Kig-yar (Minor, Major, Marksman) and Mgalekgolo. Note that I didn't include the Kig-yar as Shipmistress/master as that is an entirely irrelevant rank to this issue. | ||
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[[User talk:SPARTAN IIIIIIIIII|SPARTAN IIIIIIIIII]] 18:04, August 8, 2010 (UTC) | [[User talk:SPARTAN IIIIIIIIII|SPARTAN IIIIIIIIII]] 18:04, August 8, 2010 (UTC) | ||
:: | ::File:Yanme'e2.jpg - Two Green Drones looking very different due to lighting. | ||
::There you have it then... makes sense that Gold Drones are seen less in combat... they're like Zealots I guess. Great input, the sort of test I did didn't cover testing shields. In regards to that information, I'd perceive them as: Green (Minor), Blue (Major), Silver (Ultra), Red (Captain) and Gold (Captain Major). In regard to the Brute's ranks in Halo 3, that order of the "Leader" units makes more sense anyway as those were the same colours for the Brute Captain and Captain Major before the Captain was changed to violet. -[[User:TheLostJedi|'''<span style="color:maroon">TheLostJedi</span>''']] 02:32, August 9, 2010 (UTC) | |||
::Oh and there appears to be light green drones in night version of firefight maps. [[User talk:SPARTAN IIIIIIIIII|SPARTAN IIIIIIIIII]] | ::Oh and there appears to be light green drones in night version of firefight maps. [[User talk:SPARTAN IIIIIIIIII|SPARTAN IIIIIIIIII]] | ||
:::I think they're the same. -[[User:TheLostJedi|'''<span style="color:maroon">TheLostJedi</span>''']] 19:40, August 9, 2010 (UTC) | :::I think they're the same. -[[User:TheLostJedi|'''<span style="color:maroon">TheLostJedi</span>''']] 19:40, August 9, 2010 (UTC) | ||
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! colspan="3"|'''Yanme'e Infantry''' | ! colspan="3"|'''Yanme'e Infantry''' | ||
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|''' | |'''Yanme'e Major''' | ||
| | |File:ReachRedShell.jpg | ||
|Drone Majors are one step higher than the Minor Drones. They still appear low in rank, about the same as a | |Drone Majors are one step higher than the Minor Drones. They still appear low in rank, about the same as a Jackal Minor. They are most often seen commanded by Jackal Majors, Brutes, and even Special Operations Grunts. Yanme'e Majors are differentiated from lower ranks by their crimson shells and energy shields. They have longer wings and can fly faster than Drone Minors. | ||
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|''' | |'''Yanme'e Minor''' | ||
| | |File:Drone Swarm.jpg | ||
|Logically, Drone Minors are the lowest of the Drone ranks. They are commanded by | |Logically, Drone Minors are the lowest of the Drone ranks. They are commanded by Drone Majors, Jackals, and Grunt Majors. They seem equal, if not even inferior in rank, to the Grunt Minors, placing them at the very bottom of the Covenant hierarchy. Usually found equipped with Plasma Pistols, Needlers, and rarely Plasma Rifles, Drone Minors, while powerful in swarms, are weak individually. They can be taken down fairly easily, and will often make tactical errors such as flying into an enemy's line of sight, or getting in the path of another Drone's shot. | ||
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! colspan="3"|'''Unknown Yanme'e Infantry''' | ! colspan="3"|'''Unknown Yanme'e Infantry''' | ||
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|'''Blue Yanme'e''' | |'''Blue Yanme'e''' | ||
| | |File:Drones1.jpg|Descrip | ||
|Descrip | |||
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|'''Silver/White Yanme'e''' | |'''Silver/White Yanme'e''' | ||
| | |File:Drones1.jpg | ||
|Descrip | |Descrip | ||
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|'''Gold Yanme'e''' | |'''Gold Yanme'e''' | ||
| | |File:Drones1.jpg | ||
|Descrip | |Descrip | ||
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! colspan="3"|'''Yanme'e Leaders''' | ! colspan="3"|'''Yanme'e Leaders''' | ||
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|''' | |'''Yanme'e Queen''' | ||
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|Queens are the leaders of Hives, responsible for the birth of new members of the Swarm. | |Queens are the leaders of Hives, responsible for the birth of new members of the Swarm. | ||
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|'''Yanme'e Captain Major''' | |'''Yanme'e Captain Major''' | ||
| | |File:Yanme'e Captain Major (Yellow).jpg | ||
|Drone Captain Majors are gold-yellow in colour and appear to be superior to all other Drone ranks. This rank seems to be very high ranking within the Hive as only one is seen throughout the campaign of Halo ODST. It's found equipped with a | |Drone Captain Majors are gold-yellow in colour and appear to be superior to all other Drone ranks. This rank seems to be very high ranking within the Hive as only one is seen throughout the campaign of Halo ODST. It's found equipped with a Brute Plasma Rifle and shielding. | ||
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|'''Yanme'e Captain''' | |'''Yanme'e Captain''' | ||
| | |File:ReachRedShell.jpg | ||
|Drone Captains appear to command groups of lower ranking Drones. | |Drone Captains appear to command groups of lower ranking Drones. | ||
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|'''Yanme'e 'Specialist'''' | |'''Yanme'e 'Specialist'''' | ||
| | |File:Yanme'e Specialist (blue - reach) 2.jpg|Drone 'Specialists' appear blue in colour and have one horn/antenae. They are often seen working in darker environments. | ||
|Drone 'Specialists' appear blue in colour and have one horn/antenae. They are often seen working in darker environments. | |||
|-! colspan="3"|'''Yanme'e Specialists''' | |-! colspan="3"|'''Yanme'e Specialists''' | ||
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! colspan="3"|'''Yanme'e Infantry''' | ! colspan="3"|'''Yanme'e Infantry''' | ||
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|''' | |'''Yanme'e Ultra''' | ||
| | |File:Yanme'e Ultra (White).jpg | ||
|Drone Ultras are one step higher than the Major Drones. Drone Ultras are differentiated from lower ranks by their white-silver shells and slight energy shields. | |Drone Ultras are one step higher than the Major Drones. Drone Ultras are differentiated from lower ranks by their white-silver shells and slight energy shields. | ||
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|''' | |'''Yanme'e Major''' | ||
| | |File:Yanme'e Major (Blue).jpg | ||
|Drone Majors are one step higher than the Minor Drones. They still appear low in rank, about the same as a | |Drone Majors are one step higher than the Minor Drones. They still appear low in rank, about the same as a Jackal Minor. This rank is blue in colour and appear to posses somekind of very low sheilding. | ||
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|''' | |'''Yanme'e Minor''' | ||
| | |File:Yanme'e Minor (green) 2.jpg | ||
|Logically, Drone Minors are the lowest of the Drone ranks. They are commanded by | |Logically, Drone Minors are the lowest of the Drone ranks. They are commanded by Drone Majors, Jackals, and Grunt Majors. They seem equal, if not even inferior in rank, to the Grunt Minors, placing them at the very bottom of the Covenant hierarchy. Usually found equipped with Plasma Pistols, Needlers, and rarely Plasma Rifles, Drone Minors, while powerful in swarms, are weak individually. They can be taken down fairly easily, and will often make tactical errors such as flying into an enemy's line of sight, or getting in the path of another Drone's shot. | ||
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[[User:Hellisuva|Hellisuva]] and I, have discussed the potential rank structure of the Yanme'e and we came to the conclusion that it would make more sense for them to have followed the same rank structure of the Brutes. These may not be the exact names of these ranks but they make them a lot easier to think about and also seems appropriate. The only problem we encountered was the ranking of the blue drone in Reach that when killed, is listed as a specialist unit therefore making it unlikely to be the same as the blue drone from ODST. If I receive positive feedback to this or any other suggestions I will create pages and links for each Drone rank. | [[User:Hellisuva|Hellisuva]] and I, have discussed the potential rank structure of the Yanme'e and we came to the conclusion that it would make more sense for them to have followed the same rank structure of the Brutes. These may not be the exact names of these ranks but they make them a lot easier to think about and also seems appropriate. The only problem we encountered was the ranking of the blue drone in Reach that when killed, is listed as a specialist unit therefore making it unlikely to be the same as the blue drone from ODST. If I receive positive feedback to this or any other suggestions I will create pages and links for each Drone rank. | ||
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Why is it still using the Halo 3 picture? We should be using Reach. {{Unsigned|ArchedThunder}} | Why is it still using the Halo 3 picture? We should be using Reach. {{Unsigned|ArchedThunder}} | ||
:Please sign your signature.We can, if we have a good and suitable picture. —[[User:Spartan331|<span style="color:silver;">S331</span> | :Please sign your signature.We can, if we have a good and suitable picture. —[[User:Spartan331|<span style="color:silver;">S331</span>]] <sub>([[User talk:Spartan331|Talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Spartan331|Contributions]])</sub> 10:48, 19 June 2011 (EDT) | ||
We Have an official render from Bungie, and have had it since Reach launched. [[User:ArchedThunder|ArchedThunder]] | We Have an official render from Bungie, and have had it since Reach launched. [[User:ArchedThunder|ArchedThunder]] | ||