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Nobody has been fired. The internal teams were disbanded, and absorbed by the other group working on Halo Wars. -- '''[[CoH|<font color=purple>Councillor</font>]] [[User:Specops306|<font color=blue>Specops306</font>]]''' - '''''[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=blue>Kora</font>]] [[Special:Editcount/Specops306|<font color=purple>'Morhek</font>]]''''' 07:17, 24 September 2008 (UTC)
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Nobody has been fired. The internal teams were disbanded, and absorbed by the other group working on Halo Wars. -- '''CoH|<font color=purple>Councillor</font>]] [[User:Specops306|<font color=blue>Specops306</font>]]''' - '''''[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=blue>Kora</font>]] [[Special:Editcount/Specops306|<font color=purple>'Morhek</font>]]''''' 07:17, 24 September 2008 (UTC)


Even the concept of having a MMO of Halo sounds ridiculous. Thank god they abandoned the project...[[User Talk:Subtank|<font color="#0000FF"><tt>Little</tt></font>]][[w:c:halofanon:Category:Subtank|<font color="#0000FF"><tt>_</tt></font>]][[User:Subtank|<font color="#0090FF"><tt>Missy</tt></font>]] - [[Image:Cortana Gif.gif|24px]] 12:52, 26 September 2008 (UTC)
Even the concept of having a MMO of Halo sounds ridiculous. Thank god they abandoned the project...[[User Talk:Subtank|<font color="#0000FF"><tt>Little</tt></font>]][[halofanon:Category:Subtank|<font color="#0000FF"><tt>_</tt></font>]][[User:Subtank|<font color="#0090FF"><tt>Missy</tt></font>]] - File:Cortana Gif.gif|24 12:52, 26 September 2008 (UTC)


== Merge all cut-content into this article? ==
== Merge all cut-content into this article? ==


Now, rather than deleting all of these, why not create a hub for cut-content? Just like our [[Pre-Xbox Halo]] article. It would look far better and readers can find all of the cut-content information in one place! :D — <span style="font-size:16px; font-family:OrbitronMedium;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span> 07:09, 31 March 2012 (EDT)
Now, rather than deleting all of these, why not create a hub for cut-content? Just like our [[Pre-Xbox Halo]] article. It would look far better and readers can find all of the cut-content information in one place! :D — <span style="font-size:16px; font-family:OrbitronMedium;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span> 07:09, 31 March 2012 (EDT)
:Sounds good. We should do that. Are all of these cut contents notable enough to have their own page? No.—[[User:Spartan331|<span style="color:silver;">S331</span>]] [[File:Bubbleshieldhud.svg|14px]]<sub>([[User talk:Spartan331|COM]] • [[Special:Contributions/Spartan331|Mission Log]] • [[User profile:Spartan331|Profile]])</sub> 07:12, 31 March 2012 (EDT)
:Sounds good. We should do that. Are all of these cut contents notable enough to have their own page? No.—[[User:Spartan331|<span style="color:silver;">S331</span>]] <sub>([[User talk:Spartan331|COM]] • [[Special:Contributions/Spartan331|Mission Log]] • [[UserProfile:Spartan331|Profile]])</sub> 07:12, 31 March 2012 (EDT)
:::Except that's a heck of a lot of content-there's already articles for cut content in other areas (even levels, so shouldn't the same standard be applied? Better to have individual articles than make a user trawl through hordes of data.--[[User talk:Hawki|Hawki]] 08:48, 31 March 2012 (EDT)
:::Except that's a heck of a lot of content-there's already articles for cut content in other areas (even levels, so shouldn't the same standard be applied? Better to have individual articles than make a user trawl through hordes of data.--[[User talk:Hawki|Hawki]] 08:48, 31 March 2012 (EDT)
::::This a cancelled ''game'' and all of its contents. Where can we put deleted levels or vehicles? Well, I guess we can. —[[User:Spartan331|<span style="color:silver;">S331</span>]] [[File:Bubbleshieldhud.svg|14px]]<sub>([[User talk:Spartan331|COM]] • [[Special:Contributions/Spartan331|Mission Log]] • [[User profile:Spartan331|Profile]])</sub> 10:46, 31 March 2012 (EDT)
::::This a cancelled ''game'' and all of its contents. Where can we put deleted levels or vehicles? Well, I guess we can. —[[User:Spartan331|<span style="color:silver;">S331</span>]] <sub>([[User talk:Spartan331|COM]] • [[Special:Contributions/Spartan331|Mission Log]] • [[UserProfile:Spartan331|Profile]])</sub> 10:46, 31 March 2012 (EDT)
:::Hm. Could possibly work as an article, but the gallery's going to be huge. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 12:03, 31 March 2012 (EDT)
:::Hm. Could possibly work as an article, but the gallery's going to be huge. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 12:03, 31 March 2012 (EDT)
::::Not really. All we need to make sure is that every images is categorised accordingly and properly.— <span style="font-size:16px; font-family:OrbitronMedium;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span> 10:34, 2 April 2012 (EDT)
::::Not really. All we need to make sure is that every images is categorised accordingly and properly.— <span style="font-size:16px; font-family:OrbitronMedium;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span> 10:34, 2 April 2012 (EDT)
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::It looks quite okay now. Never saw the point for all those articles - in addition to my personal revulsion of it all, a canceled and officially unannounced game is just not notable enough to need an article for everything in it. Material cut from the actually released games is fine by me, but all the MMO stuff is just unnecessary clutter. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 07:47, 3 April 2012 (EDT)
::It looks quite okay now. Never saw the point for all those articles - in addition to my personal revulsion of it all, a canceled and officially unannounced game is just not notable enough to need an article for everything in it. Material cut from the actually released games is fine by me, but all the MMO stuff is just unnecessary clutter. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 07:47, 3 April 2012 (EDT)


::Looks pretty good and well-organized to me. Way to go, Sub! About Pre-Xbox Halo, we should be able get enough images from the Halo 2 Limited Edition DVD, the "Bungie's 7 Steps to World Domination" and the "O Brave New World" ViDoc. —[[User:Spartan331|<span style="color:silver;">S331</span>]] [[File:Bubbleshieldhud.svg|14px]]<sub>([[User talk:Spartan331|COM]] • [[Special:Contributions/Spartan331|Mission Log]] • [[User profile:Spartan331|Profile]])</sub> 08:33, 3 April 2012 (EDT)
::Looks pretty good and well-organized to me. Way to go, Sub! About Pre-Xbox Halo, we should be able get enough images from the Halo 2 Limited Edition DVD, the "Bungie's 7 Steps to World Domination" and the "O Brave New World" ViDoc. —[[User:Spartan331|<span style="color:silver;">S331</span>]] <sub>([[User talk:Spartan331|COM]] • [[Special:Contributions/Spartan331|Mission Log]] • [[UserProfile:Spartan331|Profile]])</sub> 08:33, 3 April 2012 (EDT)


Looking at the current replies on the satisfactory improvement of this article, can we now remove the individual articles of the Halo MMO cut-content (I think redirecting them is pointless and quite unnecessary)? — <span style="font-size:16px; font-family:OrbitronMedium;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span> 11:16, 3 April 2012 (EDT)
Looking at the current replies on the satisfactory improvement of this article, can we now remove the individual articles of the Halo MMO cut-content (I think redirecting them is pointless and quite unnecessary)? — <span style="font-size:16px; font-family:OrbitronMedium;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span> 11:16, 3 April 2012 (EDT)
:Seems like a good idea.--[[Image:Colonel Grade One.png|20px]] ''[[Help:User Levels|<span style="color:Black; font-weight:bold; font-family:Arial">Col.</span>]] [[User:Spartacus|<span style="color:Black; font-weight:bold; font-family:Arial">Spartacus</span>]]  <sup>[[User talk:Spartacus|<font color="Grey">'''Talk Page'''</font>]]</sup> <sub>[[Special:Contributions/Spartacus|<font color="Grey">Contributions</font>]]</sub> <sup>[[Special:Emailuser/Spartacus|<font color="Grey">Contact</font>]]''</sup> 16:27, 3 April 2012 (EDT)
:Seems like a good idea.-- <span style="color:Black; font-weight:bold; font-family:Arial">Col.</span> [[User:Spartacus|<span style="color:Black; font-weight:bold; font-family:Arial">Spartacus</span>]]  <sup>[[User talk:Spartacus|<font color="Grey">'''Talk Page'''</font>]]</sup> <sub>[[Special:Contributions/Spartacus|<font color="Grey">Contributions</font>]]</sub> <sup>[[Special:Emailuser/Spartacus|<font color="Grey">Contact</font>]]</sup> 16:27, 3 April 2012 (EDT)


::Same here. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 17:43, 3 April 2012 (EDT)
::Same here. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 17:43, 3 April 2012 (EDT)
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[[User talk:Spartan Matt|Spartan Matt]] 22:44, 20 November 2012 (EST)
[[User talk:Spartan Matt|Spartan Matt]] 22:44, 20 November 2012 (EST)


:Everything we have suggests the project is dead. Permanently. The MMO market notoriously hard to break into. Even Star Wars, sci-fi giant that it is, had to go free-to-play to attract players. Considering FPS fans and MMO fans probably overlap less than Star Wars fans and MMO fans do, it's probably not a sound financial move to resurrect the project. Trying to be a WOW-killer is an invitation to get crushed.--[[File:Emblem 1.jpg|20px]][[User:Rusty-112|<span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:13pt;color:blue;">''' Rusty '''</span><span style="font-size:13pt;color:red;">'''- '''</span><span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:13pt;color:blue;">'''112 '''</span>]] 23:19, 20 November 2012 (EST)
:Everything we have suggests the project is dead. Permanently. The MMO market notoriously hard to break into. Even Star Wars, sci-fi giant that it is, had to go free-to-play to attract players. Considering FPS fans and MMO fans probably overlap less than Star Wars fans and MMO fans do, it's probably not a sound financial move to resurrect the project. Trying to be a WOW-killer is an invitation to get crushed.--[[User:Rusty-112|<span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:13pt;color:blue;">''' Rusty '''</span><span style="font-size:13pt;color:red;">'''- '''</span><span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:13pt;color:blue;">'''112 '''</span>]] 23:19, 20 November 2012 (EST)


:I don't know about awesome. A lot of the concept art would screw with lore and make the game look like Star Wars. <font style="papyrus">[[User:Bioniclepluslotr|<font color="lime">'''Bioniclepluslotr'''</font>]]</font> 13:44, 21 August 2013 (EDT)
:I don't know about awesome. A lot of the concept art would screw with lore and make the game look like Star Wars. <font style="papyrus">[[User:Bioniclepluslotr|<font color="lime">'''Bioniclepluslotr'''</font>]]</font> 13:44, 21 August 2013 (EDT)
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:::Former developers were comparing it to Star Wars: The Old Republic in style and rough mechanics. Considering how that ended up for BioWare and EA, I doubt Microsoft would see it as viable. Plus, from what I've seen Microsoft seem to be courting the casual gamers, what with their focus on Kinect-friendly games - which was the reason they shuttered Ensemble in the first place, which is another reason for me to dislike the Kinect.
:::Former developers were comparing it to Star Wars: The Old Republic in style and rough mechanics. Considering how that ended up for BioWare and EA, I doubt Microsoft would see it as viable. Plus, from what I've seen Microsoft seem to be courting the casual gamers, what with their focus on Kinect-friendly games - which was the reason they shuttered Ensemble in the first place, which is another reason for me to dislike the Kinect.
:::Would it be awesome? Probably. There are plenty of people who still love TOR, and there's a lot to love about it. And the Halo universe is expansive enough to make it work. But I don't think it's going to happen. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 06:23, 28 August 2013 (EDT)
:::Would it be awesome? Probably. There are plenty of people who still love TOR, and there's a lot to love about it. And the Halo universe is expansive enough to make it work. But I don't think it's going to happen. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 06:23, 28 August 2013 (EDT)


It's unlikely that ''Titan'' itself would be restarted, actually the project is probably doomed forever. It doesn't really fit in the Halo universe, so if there's an MMO it would be an all new project. But I don't see Microsoft trying to compete with the other MMOs, a "connected" world a la ''Destiny'' would seem more plausible. [[User:Imrane-117|Imrane-117]] ([[User talk:Imrane-117|talk]]) 09:12, 28 August 2013 (EDT)
It's unlikely that ''Titan'' itself would be restarted, actually the project is probably doomed forever. It doesn't really fit in the Halo universe, so if there's an MMO it would be an all new project. But I don't see Microsoft trying to compete with the other MMOs, a "connected" world a la ''Destiny'' would seem more plausible. [[User:Imrane-117|Imrane-117]] ([[User talk:Imrane-117|talk]]) 09:12, 28 August 2013 (EDT)
==Digsite additions==
Considering we got stuff like Digsite happening, would anyone be interested in nudging 343 to get content from Titan to enter the mod tools? I mostly want to toy with the Psions and Aardvark personally, but I know there are more toys in this canceled project that we probably have yet to see. - <b><font color="#00DDFF">JamesTDG</font></b> 20:51, 1 August 2023 (UTC)
:As I have suggested in the Digsite category, I think it could be viable to provide the assets to the players and allow said players to independently host it, kind of like the MMO rewritten projects for games like Club Penguin and ToonTown. - <b><font color="#00DDFF">JamesTDG</font></b> 01:03, 24 August 2023 (PST)
::Having talked with Ken at 343 about this exact thing, it's extremely unlikely as those assets don't exist at 343 anymore - much of what we've found to archive has been news to them as much as us. Furthermore, Digsite is squarely focused on the Master Chief Collection games; it's unlikely to ever extend to the projects outside of that scope in the foreseeable future. As a reminder, the released assets are only for people to use in MCC mods - ''not'' custom fan projects and independent games. Also, please keep talk pages focused on the wiki article itself - they're not a general-discussion forum.[[User:BaconShelf|<span style="color:green;">BaconShelf</span>]] <span style="font-size:90%">([[User:BaconShelf|talk]])</span> 04:18, August 24, 2023 (EDT)
==New art==
I just retrieved some additional images we could potentially include in this page found [https://goneisgone.blogspot.com/2008/10/halo-mmo-2.html here], included from my findings are some bits of concept art and a short animation hosted locally on the website. - <b><font color="#00DDFF">JamesTDG</font></b> 06:05, 22 August 2023 (UTC)
Addendum: Oh my god, [https://web.archive.org/web/20090926062240/http://kotaku.com/photogallery/halommoconcepts/ I found the motherlode]! 06:48 UTC
:All of this art can be found [[Titan (canceled game)/Concept art|here]] and [[:Category:Titan (canceled game) concept art|here]]. I believe we have it all, but feel free to add anything if you notice we don't.[[User:BaconShelf|<span style="color:green;">BaconShelf</span>]] <span style="font-size:90%">([[User:BaconShelf|talk]])</span> 03:05, August 23, 2023 (EDT)
::Ah, thanks for providing it. Kinda a shame I didn't find anything new, but I am glad that I have access to all full-res images available now. I did however locate on goneisgone's blogspot a [https://www.blogger.com/video.g?token=AD6v5dxwbCqLCLu3R46YYz1hFJXJoFpEZoiU0Anon8OkWwef_MnJD877AAE0jVyrQY6Z3aYSfruaFBbtd-K9tFcvUraVOK0xPBUolD-6T8Q_xBL7jRQS9NGrDKZ0TxkgxILMWtnCK6C4 short animation we should look into adding to the wiki], only issue is just finding a way to download it. I am open to suggestions.- <b><font color="#00DDFF">JamesTDG</font></b> 20:13 (UTC)/15:13 (PST) August 23, 2023