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That doesn't seem possible, the article says it is not waterproof and then it says it has air for seven minutes of breathing in a vacum. Is that an inconsistency in the books or is this just wrong information? [[User talk:FatalSnipe117|FatalSnipe117]] 01:08, July 3, 2010 (UTC) | That doesn't seem possible, the article says it is not waterproof and then it says it has air for seven minutes of breathing in a vacum. Is that an inconsistency in the books or is this just wrong information? [[User talk:FatalSnipe117|FatalSnipe117]] 01:08, July 3, 2010 (UTC) | ||
:Possibly. Or it's also possible that it's a semi-permiable suit, that it would allow stuff in (like water) but not out (like air).--[[File:Emblem 1.jpg|20px]][[User:Rusty-112|<span style="background:blue; font-family:Arial;font-size:12pt;color:white;">''' Rusty '''</span>]][[User talk:Rusty-112|<span style="background:blue; font-family:Arial;font-size:12pt;color:red;">'''- '''</span>]] | :Possibly. Or it's also possible that it's a semi-permiable suit, that it would allow stuff in (like water) but not out (like air).--[[File:Emblem 1.jpg|20px]][[User:Rusty-112|<span style="background:blue; font-family:Arial;font-size:12pt;color:white;">''' Rusty '''</span>]][[User talk:Rusty-112|<span style="background:blue; font-family:Arial;font-size:12pt;color:red;">'''- '''</span>]]UserWiki:Rusty-112|<span style="background:blue; font-family:Arial;font-size:12pt;color:white;">'''112 '''</span>]]06:42, July 3, 2010 (UTC) | ||
:I'm guessing that the suit is waterproof, and that the fact that Tom and Lucy sank in their armour was because the equipment took heavy damage and has multiple leaks. But it's just a theory, so I'll leave it off the article for now. | :I'm guessing that the suit is waterproof, and that the fact that Tom and Lucy sank in their armour was because the equipment took heavy damage and has multiple leaks. But it's just a theory, so I'll leave it off the article for now. Arby116 | ||
:Personally I think it's one of two things. Either A) The 7 minutes of air isn't for a vacuum, but rather for underwater. Or B) That because Tom and Lucy's Armor had already sustained plenty of damage, let water in. [[User talk:OniLink|OniLink]] 01:48, 25 November 2010 (EST) | :Personally I think it's one of two things. Either A) The 7 minutes of air isn't for a vacuum, but rather for underwater. Or B) That because Tom and Lucy's Armor had already sustained plenty of damage, let water in. [[User talk:OniLink|OniLink]] 01:48, 25 November 2010 (EST) | ||
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==Marines== | ==Marines== | ||
Could Marines use this armor? Does it amplify strength like Mjolnir armor does. I know it doesn't have shields or the power of Mjolnir. [[User:SPARTAN-101|SPARTAN-101]] 15:02, 1 August 2007 (UTC) | Could Marines use this armor? Does it amplify strength like Mjolnir armor does. I know it doesn't have shields or the power of Mjolnir. [[User:SPARTAN-101|SPARTAN-101]] 15:02, 1 August 2007 (UTC) | ||
*Yeah, you don't need to be augmented to wear it. In fact, Alpha Company "washouts" who were never enhanced ended up serving as DIs for Beta Company and at least some wore SPI armor. --[[Special:Contributions/108.67.162.18|108.67.162.18]] 12:22, 16 July 2016 (EDT)Tex the Spartan | |||
==Strength & capabilities of SPI Armor== | ==Strength & capabilities of SPI Armor== | ||
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== Sources == | == Sources == | ||
I know that most, if not all, of this info is true so I won't put up the "Disputed Facts" template, but this page could use really some sources for confirmation. -- | I know that most, if not all, of this info is true so I won't put up the "Disputed Facts" template, but this page could use really some sources for confirmation. -- File:Slizer.png|30px]] [[User:AlphaPrime|<b>Captain Obvious</b>]]<sup>[[User Talk:AlphaPrime|<i>"Thank you, Captain Obvious!"</i>]]<nowiki>||</nowiki><i>[[Special:Contributions/AlphaPrime|My Obvious Observations]]</i></sup> 04:52, 27 May 2007 (UTC) | ||
The Halo 3 feture of the SPI armor. Does this mean a Mark III for sheilds would make Mjolnir VI and SPI equals? SPI rocks![[User:Darth Gree|'''<font color="olive">Spartans</font>''']] [[User Talk:Darth Gree|'''<font color="brown">With</font>''']] [[Special:Contributions/Darth Gree|'''<font color="purple">SPI ROCK</font>''']] | The Halo 3 feture of the SPI armor. Does this mean a Mark III for sheilds would make Mjolnir VI and SPI equals? SPI rocks![[User:Darth Gree|'''<font color="olive">Spartans</font>''']] [[User Talk:Darth Gree|'''<font color="brown">With</font>''']] [[Special:Contributions/Darth Gree|'''<font color="purple">SPI ROCK</font>''']] | ||
File:Bad_Ass_Spartan.JPG|20px]] 00:46, 31 May 2007 (UTC) | |||
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== Cool== | == Cool== | ||
Will the SPI armor in halo 3 have shields??? It would be cool if it had active camo AND shields, but then EVERYONE would use it...[[User:Iloveenergyswords|Iloveenergyswords]] 04:17, 31 May 2007 (UTC) | Will the SPI armor in halo 3 have shields??? It would be cool if it had active camo AND shields, but then EVERYONE would use it...[[User:Iloveenergyswords|Iloveenergyswords]] 04:17, 31 May 2007 (UTC) | ||
:A good idea, just have the shielding about the same as if you have a severe handicap on. Respect them [[Grunts]], [[User:Mouse among men|<font color="green">M</font>]][[User talk:Mouse among men|<font color="blue">o</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Mouse among men|<font color="red">u</font>]] | :A good idea, just have the shielding about the same as if you have a severe handicap on. Respect them [[Grunts]], [[User:Mouse among men|<font color="green">M</font>]][[User talk:Mouse among men|<font color="blue">o</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Mouse among men|<font color="red">u</font>]]Parasite of Halopedia|<font color="pink">s</font>]][[User:Mouse among men/Sandbox|<font color="orange">e</font>]] File:XtremeBoxer1.jpg|25px]] 04:05, 3 June 2007 (UTC) | ||
::It doesn't seem to be all SPI armour, just the helmet is the same. Anyway, armour customization allows you to mix and match parts of different variations of the MJOLNIR armour, so that could mean that there might be SPI armour pieces. like the helmet, or the Extra Vehicular Activity space-walk type mentioned in GoO, which might involve the completely dome shaped helmet with all gold visor?--[[User:Keyes|Keyes]] 07:38, 11 June 2007 (UTC) | ::It doesn't seem to be all SPI armour, just the helmet is the same. Anyway, armour customization allows you to mix and match parts of different variations of the MJOLNIR armour, so that could mean that there might be SPI armour pieces. like the helmet, or the Extra Vehicular Activity space-walk type mentioned in GoO, which might involve the completely dome shaped helmet with all gold visor?--[[User:Keyes|Keyes]] 07:38, 11 June 2007 (UTC) | ||
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I'm sure they did, but is just never shown. | I'm sure they did, but is just never shown. | ||
:From Ghosts of Onyx, we know that there have been Mark I and II iterations. From the Headhunters motion comic, we also know that there are different variants of SPI, like MJOLNIR, illustrated particularly well [[:File:Headhunters.png|here]], though we don't know the names of each variant. -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[ | :From Ghosts of Onyx, we know that there have been Mark I and II iterations. From the Headhunters motion comic, we also know that there are different variants of SPI, like MJOLNIR, illustrated particularly well [[:File:Headhunters.png|here]], though we don't know the names of each variant. -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 03:50, 30 August 2011 (EDT) | ||
==Watertightness== | ==Watertightness== | ||
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:I'd imagine SPI is manufactured by the Materials Group, though I don't think it's ever been stated officially. --[[User:Braidenvl|<span style="color:gray">'''''Our vengeance is at hand.'''''</span>]] [[File:Gravemind.svg|14px]] ([[User talk:Braidenvl|<span style="color:gray">Talk to me.</span>]]) 23:07, 28 September 2013 (EDT) | :I'd imagine SPI is manufactured by the Materials Group, though I don't think it's ever been stated officially. --[[User:Braidenvl|<span style="color:gray">'''''Our vengeance is at hand.'''''</span>]] [[File:Gravemind.svg|14px]] ([[User talk:Braidenvl|<span style="color:gray">Talk to me.</span>]]) 23:07, 28 September 2013 (EDT) | ||
::It would be nice if someone with contacts could find out that information and maybe get them to release it officially. Anyway, I was wondering, do we know if the SPI armor is still currently being fielded with the SPARTAN-IIIs? Or have they made the switch to the MJOLNIR GEN2 armor as well? --'''''[[User:Xamikaze330|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Halo;">Xamikaze330</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Xamikaze330|<font color="Blue">Transmission</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Xamikaze330|<font color="Green">Commencing</font>]]''''']</small> 15:16, 11 November 2013 (EST)Xamikaze330 | |||
:::I recall Glasslands mentioning that the surviving Spartan IIs and IIIs were folded into the S-IVs. And since the GEN2 MJOLNIR is standard issue for the IVs, I see no reason to believe they aren't for the former S-IIIs as well. I don't think it's been stated yet, but it's pretty likely. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 05:20, 14 November 2013 (EST) | |||
== "EVA-like variant" == | |||
I'd say it's more likely that the purported [[:File:HM EVA-like SPI.png|"EVA-like variant"]] just falls within line of standard artistic variety within the default SPI helmet, instead of being its own separate variant. It's not like every other source has depicted it exactly the same way. --[[User:Jugus|Jugus]] ([[User talk:Jugus|talk]]) 00:35, 13 January 2017 (EST) | |||
:Only the Headhunters and detachments (like NOBLE) ever seemed to kit themselves with non-standard SPI and MJOLNIR kit. I'd as well chalk this up to artistic liberties than an absolutely conscious decision to add flavor into the SPI mix. I'd wait until this is confirmed to move forward. Until then we could move it into the Trivia section, I reckon. {{User:Helianthus/Sig}} | |||
::I'd say keep it. On the same image the EVA-like variant is on. A normal SPI variant appears in its actual design(with a eagle design on its visor).-[[User:CIA391|CIA391]] ([[User talk:CIA391|talk]]) 10:21, 13 January 2017 (EST) | |||
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File:HM-SIIIs.png|Its 100% different variants. | |||
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:::The difference isn't all that drastic, though. By the same logic, the "normal" SPI helmet in the same piece (with the eagle symbol) is a "variant" because the [[:File:HM-SPI-schematic.jpg|base design]] lacks the sharp-edged ridges and the lower part of the visor is different. The "EVA-like variant" is actually in some ways ''closer'' to the base version, at least around the lower part of the visor. If we went that route, [[:File:HLL cover-Olivia full.png|Olivia's suit]] in the ''Last Light'' cover could also be considered a different variant, as it has considerably different detailing, gaps in the chest armor, blockier edges, and pylons on the sides of the back similar to Mjolnir armor (which most depictions of SPI armor don't have). Not to mention the forearms, which are a little different in almost every depiction. My point being, if we consider that one helmet a variant, we might as well list every other appearance of SPI armor a distinct variant because there are always some artistic differences. --[[User:Jugus|Jugus]] ([[User talk:Jugus|talk]]) 10:38, 15 January 2017 (EST) | |||
'''(Indent reset)''' But the fact that that image clearly shows two different variants on the same image, I cant simply ignore it. | |||
Plus the EVA-like helmet lacks the vents on its front, something that all Mirage-class helmets have at least in any depiction. (Bar the Headhunters one, but they are kinda already known to be special.) | |||
Maybe we should ask Grim or someone about this. xD I tbh would love clarification.-[[User:CIA391|CIA391]] ([[User talk:CIA391|talk]]) 14:10, 15 January 2017 (EST) | |||
:If we want to get technical, the same piece actually shows three different "variants". [[:File:HM-MLGSIII.png|The jumping Spartan's helmet]] is virtually identical to the original SPI concept with its bulbous and curved shape. Meanwhile, the foremost one clearly differs from this design with its sharper edges and leaner profile, as well as the lower part of the visor, which narrows down toward the chin similar to the ODST helmet. As such, I don't think the lack of vents alone is reason enough to justify calling it a variant. Most likely the artist simply didn't pay as much attention to it as the dead Spartan is a more of a background element. --[[User:Jugus|Jugus]] ([[User talk:Jugus|talk]]) 04:28, 17 January 2017 (EST) | |||
::I agree, I'd chalk it up as artistic license/error. Could be worth a mention in trivia though. --[[User:NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">'''NightHammer'''</span>]]''<sup>[[User talk:NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">(talk)</span>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">(contribs)</span>]]</sup>'' 22:48, 17 January 2017 (EST) | |||
:::Well ultimately its up to you lot. I would've suggested adding the eagle variant as a unique version also, wouldnt be the first timde 343i made artistic license canon. But alas I admit defeat(unless I get proof from 343i or something heh). XD But regardless I have no better way of adding it in as trivia so I must leave it up to you lot.-[[User:CIA391|CIA391]] ([[User talk:CIA391|talk]]) 23:20, 17 January 2017 (EST) | |||