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GrandparentsEdit

"His mother was arrested once at the age of twenty-one for protesting taxes (released on one year parole), and both her grandfathers served in the Rain Forest Wars (one surviving, Captain Oliver Franks, received the Bronze Star)." Cole was born in 2470, the Rainforest Wars were in 2162 so how could the grandfathers of his mother serve during the Rain Forest Wars? (The grandpa of my mother was born in 1920, her father 1946, she was born in 1969, and I was born 1991 so the grandpa of my mother was 71 years born before me, the grandpa of Coles mother served 308 years before his birth in the Rainforestwars. ???) Did the autor left a few generations by mistake? 91.41.8.112

It's possible. However we should also remember that historically speaking, as time goes on people are having children later and later, so if they had their children very late in life it could make up for the discrepancy. But you're right, it is problematic. More likely the author was referring to her great-great-great grandfathers or something, but without consulting him we can't be sure, and can't change it.-- Rusty-UserWiki:Rusty-112|112]] 19:24, December 9, 2009 (UTC)
Well, it has been stated that medical science has reached such a level that people were living to about 200 years old. That could give some explanation to his ancestors age. - Halo-343 (Talk) (Contribs) (Edits) 19:29, December 9, 2009 (UTC)

Hmm but it is unlikely that a human who is over 100 years old bear chrildren. SgtSalty

So many siblings.Edit

His parents were farmers and he has many siblings so is he one of the Amish people? a question from an unregistred dude

You should still sign your edits. Also it states in Evolutions, "[Cole's father] followed the Quaker faith with no particular zeal." - Lord Hyren 19:38, February 26, 2010 (UTC)

Origins Cameo?Edit

File:UNSC_FlagOfficer_Origins2.png|right|250px]] I've been looking at Halo Legends, "Origins II" and at 5:38 the man in the image to the right appears. This appearance is as Cortana switches from discussing the Insurrection to the Human-Covenant War, and looking at the image he fits Cole's description. The brown hair and brown eyes, admittedly the whole image appears in a reddish-brown filter, however the colors don't clash with the filter as the blue on the consoles behind him. The uniform is also incredibly similar to that of Lord Hood later on in the episode.

Personally, I can't think of someone more significant to bring up at this point in Origins, and Admiral Cole comes to my mind as the only reasonable individual to mention wearing a UNSC Navy flag officer uniform. Also, it's not likely to be a young Hood as the two chin and nose structures are completely different. But I'd thought I'd ask the community first what it thought. -- Lord Hyren 07:14, March 9, 2010 (UTC)

It's likely. That's what I also thought when I saw it. I doubt they'd just show some other random officer at that point instead of Cole himself. --Jugus (Talk | Contribs) 11:45, March 9, 2010 (UTC)

Cole's Death?Edit

I was under the impression that Halo Evolutions suggested that Cole never died on the Everest, as it suggests he made a in-atmosphere jump after igniting the Shiva's, yet here it states that he died at that battle.--Icewind7 02:32, April 1, 2010 (UTC)

Yes and it states that at the end of the article, but all the current evidence points towards Cole's ultimate demise. Now the theory of Cole's living through such a jump was postulated to be 90% likely, but that is not even close to the same as 100% proof positive Cole is still alive. -- Lord Hyren 03:03, April 1, 2010 (UTC)

The Cole Protocol sectionEdit

I changed the date from 2534 to 2535 due to reading up on the events and information that had to do with the cole protocol book cause all dates say that the events happened in 2535 not 2534. For example look on the pages of Jean Mawikizi,Battle of the Rubble,UNSC Midsummer Night. Look on the dates and tell me if you have any complaints. S225 10:52 17th may 2011

Admiral vs vice admiralEdit

Most sources refer to Cole as an admiral following the Battle of Harvest (The Fall of Reach, First Strike, The Cole Protocol, Halo Wars: Genesis, Halo Wars, Halo 3: ODST, Halo Encyclopedia, Dr. Halsey's personal journal). The note on this article states that Cole is referred to as a "vice admiral" throughout Halo: The Essential Visual Guide, but he is only referred to as a vice admiral in reference to the Battle of Harvest and is referred to as an admiral in chronologically subsequent mentions (such as in the Harvest campaign). So perhaps not referring to him as an admiral in Evolutions is the mistake. --NightHammer(talk)(contribs) 13:51, 22 November 2015 (EST)

Maybe the cases where he's called "admiral" were subordinates abbreviating his rank? Much like how Lieutenant Commander can be referred to as "commander" in urgent situations. They might've not felt like making the distinction between full admiral, vice admiral, or rear admiral. Tuckerscreator(stalk) 14:11, 22 November 2015 (EST)
Certainly possible in some cases (another vice admiral in The Cole Protocol is occasionally called an admiral by Keyes, but he only refers to Cole as an admiral), though the Encyclopedia, the name of the painting in First Strike, and the ODST memorials would have referred to Cole as a vice admiral rather than an admiral. However, I noticed that Evolutions doesn't refer to Cole as a vice admiral beyond his death, so maybe he was posthumously promoted? And I also just noticed that this talk page is on a redirect, rather than the actual page. --NightHammer(talk)(contribs) 14:17, 22 November 2015 (EST)
Gonna bump this. --NightHammer(talk)(contribs) 21:29, 24 January 2016 (EST)