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Main|Talk:SPARTAN-III Program#Noble Team's company tags: Non-conjectural speculation}} -- '''[[User:Forerunner|<font color="blue">Fore</font>]]''[[User talk:Forerunner|<font color="green">run</font>]]''[[Special:Contributions/Forerunner|<font color="red">ner</font>]]''' 16:11, April 17, 2010 (UTC) | |||
== Domain change? == | == Domain change? == | ||
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== Colonial Military Administration == | == Colonial Military Administration == | ||
So [[User:Sgt.johnson|Sgt.johnson]] and I have reached a bit of an impasse regarding the roles of the [[Colonial Military | So [[User:Sgt.johnson|Sgt.johnson]] and I have reached a bit of an impasse regarding the roles of the [[Colonial Military Authority]] and [[ONI]] in the creation of the [[ORION Project]] as you can see at [[Talk:Colonial Military Administration]]. The problem is that the [[Halo Encyclopedia (2009 edition)]] gives conflicting information on the subject. If someone with access to a copy could weigh in, it'd really help out.--File:Emblem 1.jpg|20 [[User:Rusty-112|<span style="background:blue; font-family:Arial;font-size:12pt;color:white;">''' Rusty '''</span>]][[User talk:Rusty-112|<span style="background:blue; font-family:Arial;font-size:12pt;color:red;">''' - '''</span>]]UserWiki:Rusty-112|<span style="background:blue; font-family:Arial;font-size:12pt;color:white;">''' 112 '''</span>]] 17:58, April 19, 2010 (UTC) | ||
:Yes, I looked it up, and the Encyclopedia does indeed contradict itself once again. First it says that the CMA launched ORION, and ONI revived it, but goes on to say the opposite in later pages. Thinking logically, I would say that the former is the correct piece of information. - | :Yes, I looked it up, and the Encyclopedia does indeed contradict itself once again. First it says that the CMA launched ORION, and ONI revived it, but goes on to say the opposite in later pages. Thinking logically, I would say that the former is the correct piece of information. - File:Black Mesa.jpg|28 [[User:Halo-343|<span style="color: purple; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 128%;">'''Halo-343'''</span>]] [[User talk:Halo-343|<font color="red"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Talk'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Halo-343|<font color="orange"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Contribs'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] [[Special:Editcount/Halo-343|<font color="green"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Edits'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] 20:38, April 19, 2010 (UTC) | ||
== About Slipspace Velocities == | == About Slipspace Velocities == | ||
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:I'd like to include the fact that the Pillar of Autumn took 18/9 days to get to Installation 04 from Reach. This would put 04 at a mere 40ly away from Reach. That would put it at between 10 and 50ly from Earth (depending on the direction).-- '''[[User:Forerunner|<font color="blue">Fore</font>]]''[[User talk:Forerunner|<font color="green">run</font>]]''[[Special:Contributions/Forerunner|<font color="red">ner</font>]]''' 22:10, April 14, 2010 (UTC) | :I'd like to include the fact that the Pillar of Autumn took 18/9 days to get to Installation 04 from Reach. This would put 04 at a mere 40ly away from Reach. That would put it at between 10 and 50ly from Earth (depending on the direction).-- '''[[User:Forerunner|<font color="blue">Fore</font>]]''[[User talk:Forerunner|<font color="green">run</font>]]''[[Special:Contributions/Forerunner|<font color="red">ner</font>]]''' 22:10, April 14, 2010 (UTC) | ||
::How did this discussion get on this page? Anyways, the Soell system was said to actually be the star Iota Horologii, if the [[Soell|article]] is to be trusted (though I remember seeing it elsewhere as well). That would make sense, since it's about 56 LY away from Earth. As said before, Slipspace speeds are mostly based on estimates and isolated cases so that makes perfect sense. Also it seems that the Slipspace speed parameter was removed from [[:Template: | ::How did this discussion get on this page? Anyways, the Soell system was said to actually be the star Iota Horologii, if the [[Soell|article]] is to be trusted (though I remember seeing it elsewhere as well). That would make sense, since it's about 56 LY away from Earth. As said before, Slipspace speeds are mostly based on estimates and isolated cases so that makes perfect sense. Also it seems that the Slipspace speed parameter was removed from [[:Template:Individual ship infobox]]. A good call, considering how little we know about them. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] ([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]]) 18:38, April 20, 2010 (UTC) | ||
:::I seem to remember seeing the entire Milky Way in the ending cutscene of the first game, meaning is is outside of the galaxy. Sol is 25,000 ly from the core, while the galaxy is 100,000 ly in diameter. That puts Soell at a minimum of 25,000 light years from Earth, depending on the direction. Also, Jugus: I moved it here because I felt that we could finally get someone's opinion on the velocities issue.-- '''[[User:Forerunner|<font color="blue">Fore</font>]]''[[User talk:Forerunner|<font color="green">run</font>]]''[[Special:Contributions/Forerunner|<font color="red">ner</font>]]''' 18:44, April 20, 2010 (UTC) | :::I seem to remember seeing the entire Milky Way in the ending cutscene of the first game, meaning is is outside of the galaxy. Sol is 25,000 ly from the core, while the galaxy is 100,000 ly in diameter. That puts Soell at a minimum of 25,000 light years from Earth, depending on the direction. Also, Jugus: I moved it here because I felt that we could finally get someone's opinion on the velocities issue.-- '''[[User:Forerunner|<font color="blue">Fore</font>]]''[[User talk:Forerunner|<font color="green">run</font>]]''[[Special:Contributions/Forerunner|<font color="red">ner</font>]]''' 18:44, April 20, 2010 (UTC) | ||
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::::::Not sure if we're talking about the same thing, but the bright thing that looks like the galactic core can be seen on the first level of the game as well. So, that can't be light from the ring's debris. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] ([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]]) 13:53, April 22, 2010 (UTC) | ::::::Not sure if we're talking about the same thing, but the bright thing that looks like the galactic core can be seen on the first level of the game as well. So, that can't be light from the ring's debris. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] ([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]]) 13:53, April 22, 2010 (UTC) | ||
:::::::You can see the same thing can be seen from [[Earth]] but some of the galactic core is obscured from view by the atmosphere but without the atmosphere we would see it the same as it is at [[Installation 04]]. | :::::::You can see the same thing can be seen from [[Earth]] but some of the galactic core is obscured from view by the atmosphere but without the atmosphere we would see it the same as it is at [[Installation 04]]. Signature/Cally99117}} | ||
::::::::I see now. So we ''were'' talking about the same thing. Nice to know it's the galactic core, it sounds better that way. Thanks guys.[[User:Tuckerscreator|'''Tuckerscreator''']] 00:11, April 23, 2010 (UTC) | ::::::::I see now. So we ''were'' talking about the same thing. Nice to know it's the galactic core, it sounds better that way. Thanks guys.[[User:Tuckerscreator|'''Tuckerscreator''']] 00:11, April 23, 2010 (UTC) | ||
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== Species names in unofficial article titles == | == Species names in unofficial article titles == | ||
I've been meaning to address this for some time now, and I was reminded to do it by | I've been meaning to address this for some time now, and I was reminded to do it by Talk:Brute Landmine. Note that I'm not going to argue against using the species' Covenant names in in-universe articles such as [[Sangheili]] or [[Jump Pack Jiralhanae]], because that's all okay and it should be that way. What I find somewhat out of place is using the Covenant name in Easter Egg or otherwise random, non-in-universe articles. I'm talking about pages like [[Hugging Sangheili]], [[Sangheili Helmet Glitch]] or [[Final Unggoy]]. Can you honestly say those don't sound a bit awkward, especially for someone who just wants to find out information about an easter egg? It's okay in in-universe articles since in those, people are going to be looking for fictional information, not a guide or random trivia. Of course, it doesn't really hurt or anything but all I'm saying is, the original "human" names simply ''sound better'' in unofficial titles while the Covenant name just seems out of place most of the time. "Final Unggoy"? Really? They're not part of the canon and as such, are not bound by the rules of in-universe content. | ||
It's no big deal and I'm not saying we should go and change them back right away, but I just wanted to see what others might think about it. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] ([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]]) 19:34, June 2, 2010 (UTC) | It's no big deal and I'm not saying we should go and change them back right away, but I just wanted to see what others might think about it. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] ([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]]) 19:34, June 2, 2010 (UTC) | ||
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:This might be my fault for the lack of clarity when I asked several users to search and change the titles. Indeed, it sounds awkward... >.< - <font face="Century Gothic">[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></font> 19:47, June 2, 2010 (UTC) | :This might be my fault for the lack of clarity when I asked several users to search and change the titles. Indeed, it sounds awkward... >.< - <font face="Century Gothic">[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></font> 19:47, June 2, 2010 (UTC) | ||
:Partialy-off-topic - Did you discuss that on the | :Partialy-off-topic - Did you discuss that on the Irk? | ||
:On-topic - I am {{Neutral}} to the names being changed back to the way they were but I still {{Support}} my other discussion '''as long as they still have those titles'''. -- | :On-topic - I am {{Neutral}} to the names being changed back to the way they were but I still {{Support}} my other discussion '''as long as they still have those titles'''. --File:Captain Grade One.png|25 <big><font face="Century Gothic">'''[[User:Cally99117|<font color="black">C</font>]][[User talk:Cally99117|<font color="maroon">a</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Cally99117|<font color="brown">l</font>]][[Special:Editcount/Cally99117|<font color="purple">l</font>]][[Special:EmailUser/Cally99117|<font color="red">y</font>]][[User:Cally99117/Userboxes|<font color="orange">9</font>]][[User:Cally99117/Gallery|<font color="yellow">9</font>]][[UserProfile:Cally99117|<font color="turquoise">1</font>]]UserWiki:Cally99117|<font color="lime">1</font>]][[Special:Following/Cally99117|<font color="green">7</font>]]'''</font></big> 19:55, June 2, 2010 (UTC) | ||
::Almost every change made in Halopedia is discussed through the Irk before carried out. So, that would be a yes.- <font face="Century Gothic">[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></font> 19:57, June 2, 2010 (UTC) | ::Almost every change made in Halopedia is discussed through the Irk before carried out. So, that would be a yes.- <font face="Century Gothic">[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></font> 19:57, June 2, 2010 (UTC) | ||
:[[User:Smoke.|Smoke.]] closed the discussion so rename those pages already. -- | :[[User:Smoke.|Smoke.]] closed the discussion so rename those pages already. --File:Captain Grade One.png|20 <big><font face="Century Gothic">'''[[User:Cally99117|<font color="black">C</font>]][[User talk:Cally99117|<font color="maroon">a</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Cally99117|<font color="brown">l</font>]][[Special:Editcount/Cally99117|<font color="purple">l</font>]][[Special:EmailUser/Cally99117|<font color="red">y</font>]][[User:Cally99117/Userboxes|<font color="orange">9</font>]][[User:Cally99117/Gallery|<font color="yellow">9</font>]][[UserProfile:Cally99117|<font color="turquoise">1</font>]]UserWiki:Cally99117|<font color="lime">1</font>]][[Special:Following/Cally99117|<font color="green">7</font>]]'''</font></big> 07:35, June 3, 2010 (UTC) | ||
==Names and Numbers== | ==Names and Numbers== | ||
Alright I personal know a lot about Halo but one thing that has always puzzled me. Does John and the other Spartans have last name or just their numbers? Also what do the numbers come from? {{ | Alright I personal know a lot about Halo but one thing that has always puzzled me. Does John and the other Spartans have last name or just their numbers? Also what do the numbers come from? {{Unsigned|24.107.99.144}} | ||
:Whatever last names they used to have are forgotten now, redacted in official military sources. I don't think most of the Spartans care anymore. As for the numbers...we used to think it was just which candidates out of the original 150 they were, but [[Ralph-303|now we have no idea]]. -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[ | :Whatever last names they used to have are forgotten now, redacted in official military sources. I don't think most of the Spartans care anymore. As for the numbers...we used to think it was just which candidates out of the original 150 they were, but [[Ralph-303|now we have no idea]]. -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 04:47, June 10, 2010 (UTC) | ||
== Page title capitalization guidelines == | == Page title capitalization guidelines == | ||
I thought about making a blog about this, but then again, it's small enough a matter to be discussed here. | I thought about making a blog about this, but then again, it's small enough a matter to be discussed here. Username1|Dragonclaws}} already addressed this in a blog, as well as some comments but barely anyone has taken any note of it. | ||
So my question is, why is it common practice that we capitalize every word in page titles? For a recent example, [[Unnamed Sabre Launch Facility]] and [[Space Station|countless]] [[Orbital Bombardment|more]]. "Launch", or "facility", aren't proper nouns and shouldn't be capitalized. I've done it myself in the past, yes, but just because it's common practice here. Wikipedia doesn't do it, and for a reason. It makes titles look out of place and complicates linking. If one wants to make a link for such a page, and they don't want to make the text to look awkward, it needs a redirect or a piped link. | So my question is, why is it common practice that we capitalize every word in page titles? For a recent example, [[Unnamed Sabre Launch Facility]] and [[Space Station|countless]] [[Orbital Bombardment|more]]. "Launch", or "facility", aren't proper nouns and shouldn't be capitalized. I've done it myself in the past, yes, but just because it's common practice here. Wikipedia doesn't do it, and for a reason. It makes titles look out of place and complicates linking. If one wants to make a link for such a page, and they don't want to make the text to look awkward, it needs a redirect or a piped link. | ||
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:Yeah, I started writing a blog with a formal proposal, but this is as good a place as any to discuss it. As is expected, I'm for the grammatical capitalization. --<b>[[User:Dragonclaws|<font color="#4D56B1">Dragon<font color="#F28500">c</font>laws</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Dragonclaws|<font color="#4D56B1">talk</font>]])</sup></b> 02:20, June 17, 2010 (UTC) | :Yeah, I started writing a blog with a formal proposal, but this is as good a place as any to discuss it. As is expected, I'm for the grammatical capitalization. --<b>[[User:Dragonclaws|<font color="#4D56B1">Dragon<font color="#F28500">c</font>laws</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Dragonclaws|<font color="#4D56B1">talk</font>]])</sup></b> 02:20, June 17, 2010 (UTC) | ||
::Yes, this has been on my mind for a while now. Halopedia has ''serious'' capitalization problems, and we really need to introduce a new policy regarding it. I've seen proper use of capitalization on another wiki I am common on, and things look much tidier and efficient. - | ::Yes, this has been on my mind for a while now. Halopedia has ''serious'' capitalization problems, and we really need to introduce a new policy regarding it. I've seen proper use of capitalization on another wiki I am common on, and things look much tidier and efficient. - File:Black Mesa.jpg|28 [[User:Halo-343|<span style="color: purple; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 128%;">'''Halo-343'''</span>]] [[User talk:Halo-343|<font color="red"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Talk'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Halo-343|<font color="orange"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Contribs'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] [[Special:Editcount/Halo-343|<font color="green"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Edits'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] 14:11, June 21, 2010 (UTC) | ||
:::See Dragonclaws' Forum:Proposal to Capitalize Titles Canonically|proposal to Capitalize Titles Canonically.- <font face="Century Gothic">[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></font> 14:13, June 21, 2010 (UTC) | :::See Dragonclaws' Forum:Proposal to Capitalize Titles Canonically|proposal to Capitalize Titles Canonically.- <font face="Century Gothic">[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></font> 14:13, June 21, 2010 (UTC) | ||
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==Sidebar== | ==Sidebar== | ||
Ok, so what the hell is wrong with the sidebar? Where did the Halo stuff go and what the f**k is up with all those picture links? - [[User:JEA13|<font color="orange">'''JEA13'''</font>]] <sup><nowiki>[</nowiki>[[User talk:JEA13|<font color="orange">iTalk</font>]]<nowiki>]</nowiki></sup> 22:44, June 27, 2010 (UTC) | Ok, so what the hell is wrong with the sidebar? Where did the Halo stuff go and what the f**k is up with all those picture links? - [[User:JEA13|<font color="orange">'''JEA13'''</font>]] <sup><nowiki>[</nowiki>[[User talk:JEA13|<font color="orange">iTalk</font>]]<nowiki>]</nowiki></sup> 22:44, June 27, 2010 (UTC) | ||
:No idea. Blame Wikia :P BTW, it wasn't like that 10 minutes ago...-- | :No idea. Blame Wikia :P BTW, it wasn't like that 10 minutes ago...--File:Brigadier Grade One.png|25 <small><span style="border: 1px solid silver; -moz-border-radius:10px">[[User:General5 7|'''<span style="background-color:White; color:FireBrick; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px"> General5 7 </span>''']][[User talk:General5 7|<span style="background-color:silver; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px"> talk </span>]][[Special:Contributions/General5 7|<span style="background-color:silver; color:white"> contribs </span>]][[Special:Emailuser/General5 7|<span style="background-color:silver; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px"> email </span>]]</span></small> 22:50, June 27, 2010 (UTC) | ||
::Yeah I know, it suddenly appeared. At last it's back now... - [[User:JEA13|<font color="orange">'''JEA13'''</font>]] <sup><nowiki>[</nowiki>[[User talk:JEA13|<font color="orange">iTalk</font>]]<nowiki>]</nowiki></sup> 07:40, June 28, 2010 (UTC) | ::Yeah I know, it suddenly appeared. At last it's back now... - [[User:JEA13|<font color="orange">'''JEA13'''</font>]] <sup><nowiki>[</nowiki>[[User talk:JEA13|<font color="orange">iTalk</font>]]<nowiki>]</nowiki></sup> 07:40, June 28, 2010 (UTC) | ||
:This happened to me once but it is back now. ;-) -- | :This happened to me once but it is back now. ;-) --File:Major Grade One.png|20 <font face="Century Gothic">'''[[User:Cally99117|<font color="black">C</font>]][[User talk:Cally99117|<font color="maroon">a</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Cally99117|<font color="brown">l</font>]][[Special:Editcount/Cally99117|<font color="purple">l</font>]][[Special:EmailUser/Cally99117|<font color="red">y</font>]][[User:Cally99117/Userboxes|<font color="orange">9</font>]][[User:Cally99117/Gallery|<font color="yellow">9</font>]][[UserProfile:Cally99117|<font color="turquoise">1</font>]]UserWiki:Cally99117|<font color="lime">1</font>]][[User:Cally99117/Drafts|<font color="green">7</font>]]'''</font> 15:53, June 28, 2010 (UTC) | ||
==Usage of bracketed addendums in article titles== | ==Usage of bracketed addendums in article titles== | ||
I've begun to notice the unneeded usage of bracketed addendums in a sizable amount of articles lately, usually those that have a level of the same name. Examples of this include [[343 Guilty Spark]], [[Armory (Room)]], [[High Charity (Structure)]], [[Cairo Station (Platform)]], [[Gravemind (Form)]], [[Kizingo Boulevard ( | I've begun to notice the unneeded usage of bracketed addendums in a sizable amount of articles lately, usually those that have a level of the same name. Examples of this include [[343 Guilty Spark]], [[Armory (Room)]], [[High Charity (Structure)]], [[Cairo Station (Platform)]], [[Gravemind (Form)]], [[Kizingo Boulevard (location)]] and countless others. If several articles share the same name, the bracketed distinction should only follow the titles of those named after the primary subject. | ||
For example, there are two instances in the ''Halo'' series titled "343 Guilty Spark"; the monitor and the level. The level is named after the monitor, thus should be the only article using bracketed information in its title to distinguish it from the primary subject, with a small note at the top of the page to cover any confusion ("''Were you looking for ____?''"). If there is more than two instances, [[Gravemind]] for instance, the same rule should apply, but with a disambiguation page made to organize the other secondarily named pages, again with a note linking to it ("''For other uses of "Gravemind", see Gravemind (disambiguation)''"). This is what I, and indeed many other wikis, think should apply when it comes to this scenario, and I think Halopedia should implement it also. While I believe this should be incorporated into the [[Halopedia:Manual of Style|Manual of Style]], I'd like to address it here, and see what people think. - | For example, there are two instances in the ''Halo'' series titled "343 Guilty Spark"; the monitor and the level. The level is named after the monitor, thus should be the only article using bracketed information in its title to distinguish it from the primary subject, with a small note at the top of the page to cover any confusion ("''Were you looking for ____?''"). If there is more than two instances, [[Gravemind]] for instance, the same rule should apply, but with a disambiguation page made to organize the other secondarily named pages, again with a note linking to it ("''For other uses of "Gravemind", see Gravemind (disambiguation)''"). This is what I, and indeed many other wikis, think should apply when it comes to this scenario, and I think Halopedia should implement it also. While I believe this should be incorporated into the [[Halopedia:Manual of Style|Manual of Style]], I'd like to address it here, and see what people think. - File:Black Mesa.jpg|28 [[User:Halo-343|<span style="color: purple; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 128%;">'''Halo-343'''</span>]] [[User talk:Halo-343|<font color="red"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Talk'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Halo-343|<font color="orange"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Contribs'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] [[Special:Editcount/Halo-343|<font color="green"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Edits'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] 20:33, June 29, 2010 (UTC) | ||
:I think you should have brought this up in a blog or on the forum, but whatever. Well, your points are valid; problem is, we need some sort of list in order to locate all articles about subjects named after something else and have a parenthesis indicating that, if we are to start correcting them. It's crazy to start looking for such articles all around the site. Another problem is that there are already articles like 343 Guilty Spark and Gravemind, without brackets, but they are disambiguation pages, so we need to carefully copy-paste everything on them and SOMEHOW keep the disambiguation page as well because it's needed. And as per an old proposal by Manticore, we may not create pages with the word "disambiguation" in brackets (it would also not make sense since we are trying to get rid of them). So yeah, its not that easy.- [[User:JEA13|<font color="orange">'''JEA13'''</font>]] <sup><nowiki>[</nowiki>[[User talk:JEA13|<font color="orange">iTalk</font>]]<nowiki>]</nowiki></sup> 20:50, June 29, 2010 (UTC) | :I think you should have brought this up in a blog or on the forum, but whatever. Well, your points are valid; problem is, we need some sort of list in order to locate all articles about subjects named after something else and have a parenthesis indicating that, if we are to start correcting them. It's crazy to start looking for such articles all around the site. Another problem is that there are already articles like 343 Guilty Spark and Gravemind, without brackets, but they are disambiguation pages, so we need to carefully copy-paste everything on them and SOMEHOW keep the disambiguation page as well because it's needed. And as per an old proposal by Manticore, we may not create pages with the word "disambiguation" in brackets (it would also not make sense since we are trying to get rid of them). So yeah, its not that easy.- [[User:JEA13|<font color="orange">'''JEA13'''</font>]] <sup><nowiki>[</nowiki>[[User talk:JEA13|<font color="orange">iTalk</font>]]<nowiki>]</nowiki></sup> 20:50, June 29, 2010 (UTC) | ||
::About the list of pages about that subject, you misunderstand, I stated that there of course should be disambiguation pages, but that the name of the page detailing the primary subject should go unchanged. And as for this proposal of Manticore's, I have never heard of it before, but think it to be quite ridiculous. We ''need'' disambiguation pages, as what I'm proposing is to retain consistency, the term "disambiguation" is inevitable to retain that, its elimination is nothing more than preference over order and consistency. - | ::About the list of pages about that subject, you misunderstand, I stated that there of course should be disambiguation pages, but that the name of the page detailing the primary subject should go unchanged. And as for this proposal of Manticore's, I have never heard of it before, but think it to be quite ridiculous. We ''need'' disambiguation pages, as what I'm proposing is to retain consistency, the term "disambiguation" is inevitable to retain that, its elimination is nothing more than preference over order and consistency. - File:Black Mesa.jpg|28 [[User:Halo-343|<span style="color: purple; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 128%;">'''Halo-343'''</span>]] [[User talk:Halo-343|<font color="red"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Talk'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Halo-343|<font color="orange"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Contribs'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] [[Special:Editcount/Halo-343|<font color="green"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Edits'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] 20:57, June 29, 2010 (UTC) | ||
:I couldn't agree more; I was just thinking about this a while ago. Pages with the name of the original subject (like [[Gravemind]] or [[Covenant]]) should obviously not be disambiguation pages, since the original subject is what people are looking for - or linking to - most of the time. Like you said, the primary subject article should have a link to the disambiguation page which would have the addendum (disambiguation). It's a good idea, and common practice in most wikis anyways. Also, the bracketed addendums shouldn't be capitalized like they have been before, for example, Cairo Station ('''P'''latform) or High Charity ('''S'''tructure). That makes it easier to link to them, not to mention more grammatically correct. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 21:01, June 29, 2010 (UTC) | :I couldn't agree more; I was just thinking about this a while ago. Pages with the name of the original subject (like [[Gravemind]] or [[Covenant]]) should obviously not be disambiguation pages, since the original subject is what people are looking for - or linking to - most of the time. Like you said, the primary subject article should have a link to the disambiguation page which would have the addendum (disambiguation). It's a good idea, and common practice in most wikis anyways. Also, the bracketed addendums shouldn't be capitalized like they have been before, for example, Cairo Station ('''P'''latform) or High Charity ('''S'''tructure). That makes it easier to link to them, not to mention more grammatically correct. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 21:01, June 29, 2010 (UTC) | ||
::I didn't say I disagree; I was referring to the old proposal which I'm sure the older admins will remember of. But the idea is good. - [[User:JEA13|<font color="orange">'''JEA13'''</font>]] <sup><nowiki>[</nowiki>[[User talk:JEA13|<font color="orange">iTalk</font>]]<nowiki>]</nowiki></sup> 21:23, June 29, 2010 (UTC) | ::I didn't say I disagree; I was referring to the old proposal which I'm sure the older admins will remember of. But the idea is good. - [[User:JEA13|<font color="orange">'''JEA13'''</font>]] <sup><nowiki>[</nowiki>[[User talk:JEA13|<font color="orange">iTalk</font>]]<nowiki>]</nowiki></sup> 21:23, June 29, 2010 (UTC) | ||
:::{{Support}} - The sentence should be as so: ''"SUBJECT redirects here. For more uses of SUBJECT, see SUBJECT (disambiguation)"''. Oh, it was me who began making disambiguation pages which were later deleted by Manticore back in 2007/08 if you're wondering....- <font face="Century Gothic">[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></font> 07:14, June 30, 2010 (UTC) | :::{{Support}} - The sentence should be as so: ''"SUBJECT redirects here. For more uses of SUBJECT, see SUBJECT (disambiguation)"''. Oh, it was me who began making disambiguation pages which were later deleted by Manticore back in 2007/08 if you're wondering....- <font face="Century Gothic">[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></font> 07:14, June 30, 2010 (UTC) | ||
== Fanon Titles == | == Fanon Titles == | ||
I have had it with fan-titles as the '''main''' title because this is an encyclopedia not some forum in which fan-titles are allowed in (with the exceptions such as [[Final Grunt]] or [[Hugging Elite]]) and we should do something about this, so I have made a project on moving: [[Covenant Rope]], [[Brute Landmine]], | I have had it with fan-titles as the '''main''' title because this is an encyclopedia not some forum in which fan-titles are allowed in (with the exceptions such as [[Final Grunt]] or [[Hugging Elite]]) and we should do something about this, so I have made a project on moving: [[Covenant Rope]], [[Brute Landmine]], {{Pattern|Kewu|battleship}}, [[Crow's Nest Bomb]], (there are more but I am too lazy to make a draft for all of them). This is one of the many problems with halopedia. --File:Major Grade One.png|20 <font face="Century Gothic">'''[[User:Cally99117|<font color="black">C</font>]][[User talk:Cally99117|<font color="maroon">a</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Cally99117|<font color="brown">l</font>]][[Special:Editcount/Cally99117|<font color="purple">l</font>]][[Special:EmailUser/Cally99117|<font color="red">y</font>]][[User:Cally99117/Userboxes|<font color="orange">9</font>]][[User:Cally99117/Gallery|<font color="yellow">9</font>]][[UserProfile:Cally99117|<font color="turquoise">1</font>]]UserWiki:Cally99117|<font color="lime">1</font>]][[User:Cally99117/Drafts|<font color="green">7</font>]]'''</font> 06:59, June 30, 2010 (UTC) | ||
:Make a proper proposal or don't propose anything at all... >.< - <font face="Century Gothic">[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></font> 07:14, June 30, 2010 (UTC) | :Make a proper proposal or don't propose anything at all... >.< - <font face="Century Gothic">[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></font> 07:14, June 30, 2010 (UTC) | ||
::How about make a proper reply or don't reply at all... >.< -- | ::How about make a proper reply or don't reply at all... >.< --File:Major Grade One.png|20 <font face="Century Gothic">'''[[User:Cally99117|<font color="black">C</font>]][[User talk:Cally99117|<font color="maroon">a</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Cally99117|<font color="brown">l</font>]][[Special:Editcount/Cally99117|<font color="purple">l</font>]][[Special:EmailUser/Cally99117|<font color="red">y</font>]][[User:Cally99117/Userboxes|<font color="orange">9</font>]][[User:Cally99117/Gallery|<font color="yellow">9</font>]][[UserProfile:Cally99117|<font color="turquoise">1</font>]]UserWiki:Cally99117|<font color="lime">1</font>]][[User:Cally99117/Drafts|<font color="green">7</font>]]'''</font> 07:32, June 30, 2010 (UTC) | ||
:::Cally, one more proper smartass comment from you and you'll get an all-expenses paid [suspension] vacation. {{User:CommanderTony/Sig|June 30th, 2010}} | :::Cally, one more proper smartass comment from you and you'll get an all-expenses paid [suspension] vacation. {{User:CommanderTony/Sig|June 30th, 2010}} | ||
:::Oh, the irony.- <font face="Century Gothic">[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></font> 09:08, June 30, 2010 (UTC) | :::Oh, the irony.- <font face="Century Gothic">[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></font> 09:08, June 30, 2010 (UTC) | ||
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::::But those names aren't "fan-names" like dubbing Rtas 'Vadum "Half-Jaw" because of his jaw injury when we had no idea what his name was. Each of those is an accurate description of something whose name we don't know. I don't see why your names are necessarily better than the things we have now. How is "Brute Landmine" a fan-name and "Hugging Elite" is just fine? --<b>[[User:Dragonclaws|<font color="#4D56B1">Dragon<font color="#F28500">c</font>laws</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Dragonclaws|<font color="#4D56B1">talk</font>]])</sup></b> 18:02, June 30, 2010 (UTC) | ::::But those names aren't "fan-names" like dubbing Rtas 'Vadum "Half-Jaw" because of his jaw injury when we had no idea what his name was. Each of those is an accurate description of something whose name we don't know. I don't see why your names are necessarily better than the things we have now. How is "Brute Landmine" a fan-name and "Hugging Elite" is just fine? --<b>[[User:Dragonclaws|<font color="#4D56B1">Dragon<font color="#F28500">c</font>laws</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Dragonclaws|<font color="#4D56B1">talk</font>]])</sup></b> 18:02, June 30, 2010 (UTC) | ||
:::::I have only chosen a few like Brute Landmine because it has absolutely no sources or evidence to prove that is a near canon title and Covenant Supercruiser which has never been confirmed to be a cruiser. RE: Hugging Elite: We as i said easter eggs are not included becausethey are for fan speculation. -- | :::::I have only chosen a few like Brute Landmine because it has absolutely no sources or evidence to prove that is a near canon title and Covenant Supercruiser which has never been confirmed to be a cruiser. RE: Hugging Elite: We as i said easter eggs are not included becausethey are for fan speculation. --File:Major Grade One.png|20px|link=UserProfile:Cally99117]] <font face="Century Gothic">'''[[User:Cally99117|<font color="black">C</font>]][[User talk:Cally99117|<font color="maroon">a</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Cally99117|<font color="brown">l</font>]][[Special:Editcount/Cally99117|<font color="purple">l</font>]][[Special:EmailUser/Cally99117|<font color="red">y</font>]][[User:Cally99117/Userboxes|<font color="orange">9</font>]][[User:Cally99117/Gallery|<font color="yellow">9</font>]][[User:Cally99117/IRC Quotes|<font color="turquoise">1</font>]]UserWiki:Cally99117|<font color="lime">1</font>]][[User:Cally99117/Drafts|<font color="green">7</font>]]'''</font> 18:25, June 30, 2010 (UTC) | ||
:::::I might start thinking about including stuff like Hugging Elite and other easter eggs and glitches. So should I make this into a forum now? --{{User:Cally99117/Sig}} | :::::I might start thinking about including stuff like Hugging Elite and other easter eggs and glitches. So should I make this into a forum now? --{{User:Cally99117/Sig}} | ||
::::::I think you can go ahead. I do agree with some stuff, like the "Crow's Nest Bomb" and "Legendary Planet". I do disagree with stuff like the land mine. "Brute Landmine" and "Covenant Rope" are descriptions, just as your "Unidentified Air Burst Mine" and "Unidentified Covenant Tether" are descriptions. Of course, I can offer no official sources showing that their current titles are canon, but neither can you with your descriptive titles. It is clear that the mine is of Brute-origin and that the rope is of Covenant origin, so the titles are accurate even if they are not canon. --<b>[[User:Dragonclaws|<font color="#4D56B1">Dragon<font color="#F28500">c</font>laws</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Dragonclaws|<font color="#4D56B1">talk</font>]])</sup></b> 17:58, July 3, 2010 (UTC) | ::::::I think you can go ahead. I do agree with some stuff, like the "Crow's Nest Bomb" and "Legendary Planet". I do disagree with stuff like the land mine. "Brute Landmine" and "Covenant Rope" are descriptions, just as your "Unidentified Air Burst Mine" and "Unidentified Covenant Tether" are descriptions. Of course, I can offer no official sources showing that their current titles are canon, but neither can you with your descriptive titles. It is clear that the mine is of Brute-origin and that the rope is of Covenant origin, so the titles are accurate even if they are not canon. --<b>[[User:Dragonclaws|<font color="#4D56B1">Dragon<font color="#F28500">c</font>laws</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Dragonclaws|<font color="#4D56B1">talk</font>]])</sup></b> 17:58, July 3, 2010 (UTC) | ||