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::My issue with the Maginot Line is that it's not the real name, it comes from a real world name related to WWII, and was obviously not the designation used by the Forerunners. I would revise my opinion only if "Maginot Line" was also in the ''Forerunner Saga'', along its Forerunner counterpart. (I have no idea whether it's used or not.) But as I said, it's my ''opinion''... Moving to Jat-Krula sounds kind of weird to me. As for Malurok/Decided Heart, I have to say that I'm kind of torn between the two of them. I do feel that original (read ''alien'') names should be preferred (as in Sangheili, Unggoy and so on), but if things like ''High Charity'', Ghost, Banshee, Plasma rifle, ''CCS''-class battlecruiser, etc, ever get their own Covenant/Sangheili names revealed... I would most likely reject us moving the pages towards their "true" names (unless they end up being forced into the games' canon). But for planets... I don't know. Most Covenant colonies that we know of have a Covenant name. Should we prefer uniformity? Yet, a good question would be: was the English name used in a Covenant context or a human one? From what I can remember, both Joyous Exultation and Decided Heart were used in Covenant context. That should be enough for us to keep the English name without feeling bad about not using "the names used by the Covenant". (However, this could also be said for the Covenant sometimes using English names for their species, like "Elites", "Brutes", etc.) [[User:Imrane-117|Imrane-117]] ([[User talk:Imrane-117|talk]]) 05:58, 23 November 2014 (EST)
::My issue with the Maginot Line is that it's not the real name, it comes from a real world name related to WWII, and was obviously not the designation used by the Forerunners. I would revise my opinion only if "Maginot Line" was also in the ''Forerunner Saga'', along its Forerunner counterpart. (I have no idea whether it's used or not.) But as I said, it's my ''opinion''... Moving to Jat-Krula sounds kind of weird to me. As for Malurok/Decided Heart, I have to say that I'm kind of torn between the two of them. I do feel that original (read ''alien'') names should be preferred (as in Sangheili, Unggoy and so on), but if things like ''High Charity'', Ghost, Banshee, Plasma rifle, ''CCS''-class battlecruiser, etc, ever get their own Covenant/Sangheili names revealed... I would most likely reject us moving the pages towards their "true" names (unless they end up being forced into the games' canon). But for planets... I don't know. Most Covenant colonies that we know of have a Covenant name. Should we prefer uniformity? Yet, a good question would be: was the English name used in a Covenant context or a human one? From what I can remember, both Joyous Exultation and Decided Heart were used in Covenant context. That should be enough for us to keep the English name without feeling bad about not using "the names used by the Covenant". (However, this could also be said for the Covenant sometimes using English names for their species, like "Elites", "Brutes", etc.) [[User:Imrane-117|Imrane-117]] ([[User talk:Imrane-117|talk]]) 05:58, 23 November 2014 (EST)
:::Both Joyous Exultation and Decided Heart were originally used in a strictly Covenant context (Voro 'Mantakree's POV in ''Ghosts of Onyx'' and the Covenant/Ripa 'Moramee portion of ''Halo Wars: Genesis'', respectively). ''Halo: Silentium'' mentions "Maginot Line" in a bracketed "translator note" to leave no ambiguity as to what "Jat-Krula" is. But I agree there is some rationale for using "Jat-Krula protected boundary" or simply "Jat-Krula" due to the very specific real-world connection of the translated name. But then again, "Promethean" and plenty of other Forerunner-related names are no different. As for the Covenant species, ''Broken Circle'' even mentions that the Sangheili were referred to as Elites by the San'Shyuum and vice versa. Make of that what you will. I personally have no issue with occasionally using the human names for the sake of variety. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 09:41, 23 November 2014 (EST)