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== Size ==
== Size ==
Any indication on the size of this thing in terms of length? I don't have access to Reach at the moment so I couldn't hazard a guess. I'm assuming more ship-sized than aircraft, seeing as it has room for 600 passengers... [[User talk:Diaboy|Diaboy]] 14:55, 25 December 2010 (EST)
Any indication on the size of this thing in terms of length? I don't have access to Reach at the moment so I couldn't hazard a guess. I'm assuming more ship-sized than aircraft, seeing as it has room for 600 passengers... [[User talk:Diaboy|Diaboy]] 14:55, 25 December 2010 (EST)
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:::I Just remembered something I saw in the article itself. It says that these "craft" are seen in New Alexandria Starport. Note that it says ''"Starport"'' and not ''"Airport"''. Because of this, I suspect this means that these actually are, as I have always suspected, transport starships. Otherwise, why would these be grounded at a starport if they were not starships? If they were some kind of aircraft, then wouldn't they be grounded at an airport? And I saw that you, Tuckerscreator, noted that today's commercial airplanes are designed to float for a period of time when landing (or rather, crashing) in the water to allow passengers to safely evacuate, and yet, you also noted that the "craft" immediately sank right after hitting the water. So, if this were an aircraft, as it seems to me you are suggesting it may be, then logically, the UNSC or CMA or whatever organization would have kept something that still worked from the  21st century to the 26th century and used it for these crafts. But it's possible these really are some kind of starship...Need I go on? I would also add that [[User:FatalSnipe117|FatalSnipe117]] noted something similar about the hull being made of Titanium-A, which is ''not'' buoyant according to scientific tests, and of course not to mention the part where it did get hit by a plasma torpedo impact, causing a major hull breach. But that's beside the point. Point is, why are they seen at New Alexandria Starport if they are not starships? --[[User talk:Xamikaze330|Xamikaze330]] 11:32, 17 February 2012 (EST)Xamikaze330
:::I Just remembered something I saw in the article itself. It says that these "craft" are seen in New Alexandria Starport. Note that it says ''"Starport"'' and not ''"Airport"''. Because of this, I suspect this means that these actually are, as I have always suspected, transport starships. Otherwise, why would these be grounded at a starport if they were not starships? If they were some kind of aircraft, then wouldn't they be grounded at an airport? And I saw that you, Tuckerscreator, noted that today's commercial airplanes are designed to float for a period of time when landing (or rather, crashing) in the water to allow passengers to safely evacuate, and yet, you also noted that the "craft" immediately sank right after hitting the water. So, if this were an aircraft, as it seems to me you are suggesting it may be, then logically, the UNSC or CMA or whatever organization would have kept something that still worked from the  21st century to the 26th century and used it for these crafts. But it's possible these really are some kind of starship...Need I go on? I would also add that [[User:FatalSnipe117|FatalSnipe117]] noted something similar about the hull being made of Titanium-A, which is ''not'' buoyant according to scientific tests, and of course not to mention the part where it did get hit by a plasma torpedo impact, causing a major hull breach. But that's beside the point. Point is, why are they seen at New Alexandria Starport if they are not starships? --[[User talk:Xamikaze330|Xamikaze330]] 11:32, 17 February 2012 (EST)Xamikaze330
::The consensus was that the reason the craft sank was because the plasma torpedo breached its hull. Modern airplanes are also made of titanium, which is actually lighter than steel, and still float. It'd be a terrible idea to build such a sinkable vehicles next to a bay. It's also dramatic effect: "Oh no, plane full of innocents has been shot down!" "Just pick them up from the lifeboats, they'll be fine." "Starport"'s a good point, though. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 11:54, 17 February 2012 (EST)
::''"Titanium-A, which is ''not'' buoyant according to scientific tests"'' -- citation needed. Titanium-A is a fictional element, so how can it be subjected to current scientific tests?
::I always consider spaceport/starport to be the next airport, that is it still possesses the functionalities of airports but its sole construction is for space/interstellar travels. That said, airport has evolved into spaceport/starport and that all aircrafts can also operate within a spaceport. Of course, this is simply an assumption of mine but it fits nicely into explaining why this craft is still not a starcraft/starship and why it is in a spaceport/starport.— <span style="font-size:16px; font-family:OrbitronMedium;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span> 12:06, 17 February 2012 (EST)
::Thank you, I am aware of that. It's just the science fiction version of an airport, except designed more in the way of starships. Sorry about the Titanium-A part not being buoyant, what I meant to say was that in the real world, for what I've learned in all my science classes in high school, titanium is not buoyant, meaning it can't float the same way something like volcanic pumice rocks can float in water. Same thing goes for steel and whatnot. --[[User talk:Xamikaze330|Xamikaze330]] 12:10, 17 February 2012 (EST)Xamikaze330


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:To me, the hull breach seems the most likely; after all, if the ship couldn't float in water, then it seems unsafe to put the loading dock right next to a harbor. Anyway, should it be noted in the article? [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 02:41, 23 August 2011 (EDT)
:To me, the hull breach seems the most likely; after all, if the ship couldn't float in water, then it seems unsafe to put the loading dock right next to a harbor. Anyway, should it be noted in the article? [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 02:41, 23 August 2011 (EDT)
==Transport craft in ''Halo: Initiation''==
Since we've seen these craft flying in space around Lockhart Medical Station of ''Halo: Initiation'', can we finally change it to "Unidentified civilian transport ship"? Because that's what they are. I don't wish to start another edit/debate war or whatever, but the evidence is all there and very clear. There's even a note at the end of the article that clearly implies that they are in fact space-worthy vessels, what with being equipped with Slipspace drives and all. And then it's back to ''Halo: Initation''. Need I say any more? --'''''[[User:Xamikaze330|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Halo;">Xamikaze330</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Xamikaze330|<font color="Blue">Transmission</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Xamikaze330|<font color="Green">Commencing</font>]]''''']</small> 15:38, 1 February 2014 (EST)Xamikaze330
:I'm gonna just [[#Proposed_Article_Change:_Unidentified_civilian_transport_ship|repeat my previous comment]]: "''Ship is synonymous with craft; there's no point of changing it since they are the same.''" — <span style="font-size:14px; font-family:Arial;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span>  17:28, 1 February 2014 (EST)
::Alright, fine. Have it your way. Just prefer "ship" to the more generic "craft". But whatever. --'''''[[User:Xamikaze330|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Halo;">Xamikaze330</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Xamikaze330|<font color="Blue">Transmission</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Xamikaze330|<font color="Green">Commencing</font>]]''''']</small> 20:42, 1 February 2014 (EST)Xamikaze330