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==Numbers==
==Numbers==
Anyone know what the set of numbers at the start of the terminals are? I was thinking the date the cinematic takes place. Too many sets of numbers though. [[File:Colonel Grade One.png|20px]][[User:Spartansniper450/IRC Quotes|<span style="color:#000000">''Col.''</span>]] [[User:Spartansniper450|<span style="color:#00416A">Snipes</span>]][[User talk:Spartansniper450|<span style="color:gold">4</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Spartansniper450|<span style="color:silver">50</span>]][[File:Colonel Grade One.png|20px]] 20:31, 15 November 2011 (EST)
Anyone know what the set of numbers at the start of the terminals are? I was thinking the date the cinematic takes place. Too many sets of numbers though. [[User:Spartansniper450/IRC Quotes|<span style="color:#000000">''Col.''</span>]] [[User:Spartansniper450|<span style="color:#00416A">Snipes</span>]][[User talk:Spartansniper450|<span style="color:gold">4</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Spartansniper450|<span style="color:silver">50</span>]] 20:31, 15 November 2011 (EST)


They are for something on Waypoint. [[User talk:ArchedThunder|ArchedThunder]] 20:08, 16 November 2011 (EST)
They are for something on Waypoint. [[User talk:ArchedThunder|ArchedThunder]] 20:08, 16 November 2011 (EST)
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:They don't seem to be linear, and there isn't an approximately 100,000 year difference between terminal 2 and Terminals 1; 3 and 10.-- '''[[User:Forerunner|<font color="blue">Fore</font>]]''[[User talk:Forerunner|<font color="green">run</font>]]''[[Special:Contributions/Forerunner|<font color="red">ner</font>]]''''' 13:29, 29 November 2011 (EST)
:They don't seem to be linear, and there isn't an approximately 100,000 year difference between terminal 2 and Terminals 1; 3 and 10.-- '''[[User:Forerunner|<font color="blue">Fore</font>]]''[[User talk:Forerunner|<font color="green">run</font>]]''[[Special:Contributions/Forerunner|<font color="red">ner</font>]]''''' 13:29, 29 November 2011 (EST)


::At first I thought they were a date or something, but then I realized the same thing Forerunner, some of these take place weeks or at the most a month or so apart. [[File:Colonel Grade One.png|20px]][[User:Spartansniper450/IRC Quotes|<span style="color:#000000">''Col.''</span>]] [[User:Spartansniper450|<span style="color:#00416A">Snipes</span>]][[User talk:Spartansniper450|<span style="color:gold">4</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Spartansniper450|<span style="color:silver">50</span>]][[File:Colonel Grade One.png|20px]] 14:24, 29 November 2011 (EST)
::At first I thought they were a date or something, but then I realized the same thing Forerunner, some of these take place weeks or at the most a month or so apart. [[User:Spartansniper450/IRC Quotes|<span style="color:#000000">''Col.''</span>]] [[User:Spartansniper450|<span style="color:#00416A">Snipes</span>]][[User talk:Spartansniper450|<span style="color:gold">4</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Spartansniper450|<span style="color:silver">50</span>]] 14:24, 29 November 2011 (EST)


:::The numbers may not be timestamps as we understand them... They seem to correspond to specific log entries, categorized chronologically, with 343GS assigning each subsequent event to the Log Entry that corresponds with a certain set of criteria, starting with the moment when "343 Guilty Spark" was split off Chakas' original Ancilla matrix to become a Monitor for one of the Installations in the Array. Terminal 2 seems to indicate that he'd been operating in this capacity for about 3 years prior to being assigned to Installation 04. Based upon this criteria, Terminals 1,4 and 9 may be listed under the same Log Entry because Spark had determined that they share certain identical characteristics. Perhaps this Entry corresponds to events associated with "Sentient Proximity Warning" situations, or (queue conspiracy music) perhaps Spark found sufficient similarities between the crashed vessel & the Pillar of Autumn to group them together under the same log entry (Maybe they were both Human-made & Spark assumed that whoever accessed the Terminals would know that...Or maybe it's just because they both contained the same atmosphere & crashed into the Halo)  Terminal 3's Log Entry might denote his first contact with the Covenant, via the T&R's "Dumb" AI, which would explain why it was similar to the Log Entries for Terminals 10 and 11. Terminals 5 and 6 seem to relate to the alien vessel, post-impact. Terminal 7 is a little weird, probably because Spark was beginning to go Rampant during that Log Entry. Terminal 8 seems to contain random thoughts and musings that he recorded during one of his trillions of simulated firings of the Array. [[User talk:DJenser|DJenser]] 17:35, 2 February 2012 (EST)
:::The numbers may not be timestamps as we understand them... They seem to correspond to specific log entries, categorized chronologically, with 343GS assigning each subsequent event to the Log Entry that corresponds with a certain set of criteria, starting with the moment when "343 Guilty Spark" was split off Chakas' original Ancilla matrix to become a Monitor for one of the Installations in the Array. Terminal 2 seems to indicate that he'd been operating in this capacity for about 3 years prior to being assigned to Installation 04. Based upon this criteria, Terminals 1,4 and 9 may be listed under the same Log Entry because Spark had determined that they share certain identical characteristics. Perhaps this Entry corresponds to events associated with "Sentient Proximity Warning" situations, or (queue conspiracy music) perhaps Spark found sufficient similarities between the crashed vessel & the Pillar of Autumn to group them together under the same log entry (Maybe they were both Human-made & Spark assumed that whoever accessed the Terminals would know that...Or maybe it's just because they both contained the same atmosphere & crashed into the Halo)  Terminal 3's Log Entry might denote his first contact with the Covenant, via the T&R's "Dumb" AI, which would explain why it was similar to the Log Entries for Terminals 10 and 11. Terminals 5 and 6 seem to relate to the alien vessel, post-impact. Terminal 7 is a little weird, probably because Spark was beginning to go Rampant during that Log Entry. Terminal 8 seems to contain random thoughts and musings that he recorded during one of his trillions of simulated firings of the Array. [[User talk:DJenser|DJenser]] 17:35, 2 February 2012 (EST)
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I'm getting reports saying they 'locked' the terminal. What does that mean? Also: http://the99thdoctor.deviantart.com/art/12th-Terminal-Proof-270454675 [[User talk:ArchedParasite|ArchedParasite]] 23:30, 22 November 2011 (EST)
I'm getting reports saying they 'locked' the terminal. What does that mean? Also: http://the99thdoctor.deviantart.com/art/12th-Terminal-Proof-270454675 [[User talk:ArchedParasite|ArchedParasite]] 23:30, 22 November 2011 (EST)
:If they locked it then that means you don't have access, or it's not real, like stated before.--'''''[[Help:User Levels|<span style="color:green">Commander</span>]]''''' [[User:Halofan1234|<span style="color:cyan">光环的家伙1234</span>]] '''''[[User talk:Halofan1234|<span style="color:purple">Talk</span>]]''''' ''([[Special:Contributions/Halofan1234|<span style="color:gold">Contribs</span>]])'' '''([[Special:Editcount/Halofan1234|<span style"color:cyan">Edits</span>]])''' 01:31, 23 November 2011 (EST)
:If they locked it then that means you don't have access, or it's not real, like stated before.--'''''<span style="color:green">Commander</span>''''' [[User:Halofan1234|<span style="color:cyan">光环的家伙1234</span>]] '''''[[User talk:Halofan1234|<span style="color:purple">Talk</span>]]''''' ''([[Special:Contributions/Halofan1234|<span style="color:gold">Contribs</span>]])'' '''([[Special:Editcount/Halofan1234|<span style"color:cyan">Edits</span>]])''' 01:31, 23 November 2011 (EST)


It's real, sort of...Frank O'Connor said this was a red herring on neogaf.http://www.neogaf.com/fo...hp?t=451382&page=65
It's real, sort of...Frank O'Connor said this was a red herring on neogaf.http://www.neogaf.com/fo...hp?t=451382&page=65
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:Tier 3, actually. The Sangheili weren't at Tier 2 yet, and the San'Shyuum had to use hit-and-run tactics, implying the Dreadnought could be or was damaged at times. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 11:47, 29 November 2011 (EST)
:Tier 3, actually. The Sangheili weren't at Tier 2 yet, and the San'Shyuum had to use hit-and-run tactics, implying the Dreadnought could be or was damaged at times. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 11:47, 29 November 2011 (EST)


They might be a ''little'' mad that John destroyed 3 Installations (04,04B,00) but neutralizing 2 separate Flood threats I think would earn humanity a pass, I think Tuckerscreator is right with the whole "allies against a new foe". I mean they only went to war with primitive humans because they were invading their territory. [[File:Colonel Grade One.png|20px]][[User:Spartansniper450/IRC Quotes|<span style="color:#000000">''Col.''</span>]] [[User:Spartansniper450|<span style="color:#00416A">Snipes</span>]][[User talk:Spartansniper450|<span style="color:gold">4</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Spartansniper450|<span style="color:silver">50</span>]][[File:Colonel Grade One.png|20px]] 14:34, 29 November 2011 (EST)
They might be a ''little'' mad that John destroyed 3 Installations (04,04B,00) but neutralizing 2 separate Flood threats I think would earn humanity a pass, I think Tuckerscreator is right with the whole "allies against a new foe". I mean they only went to war with primitive humans because they were invading their territory. [[User:Spartansniper450/IRC Quotes|<span style="color:#000000">''Col.''</span>]] [[User:Spartansniper450|<span style="color:#00416A">Snipes</span>]][[User talk:Spartansniper450|<span style="color:gold">4</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Spartansniper450|<span style="color:silver">50</span>]] 14:34, 29 November 2011 (EST)


::I only meant they might the enemies as a result of some misunderstanding, like how they thought the previous humans were just invading them, but they were actually trying to escape the Flood. Them being allies would make sense too though. I could see it working either way. [[User talk:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 17:03, 29 November 2011 (EST)
::I only meant they might the enemies as a result of some misunderstanding, like how they thought the previous humans were just invading them, but they were actually trying to escape the Flood. Them being allies would make sense too though. I could see it working either way. [[User talk:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 17:03, 29 November 2011 (EST)


:My take on the Terminals was that, a.) there is an alien intelligence that knows about the Halo's, and that we didn't see them in Anniversary because they're going to appear in Halo 4; b.) it's setting the stage for more Didact/Librarian characterisation in the Greg Bear novels, and drumming up deserved interest for the Forerunner Saga; and c.) that it's insinuating that the Didact at least is still alive, and that he might not take too kindly to human vandalism. The Last Spartan meeting the Last Forerunner? Oh, to be a fly on the wall at that meeting. -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 03:09, 2 December 2011 (EST)
:My take on the Terminals was that, a.) there is an alien intelligence that knows about the Halo's, and that we didn't see them in Anniversary because they're going to appear in Halo 4; b.) it's setting the stage for more Didact/Librarian characterisation in the Greg Bear novels, and drumming up deserved interest for the Forerunner Saga; and c.) that it's insinuating that the Didact at least is still alive, and that he might not take too kindly to human vandalism. The Last Spartan meeting the Last Forerunner? Oh, to be a fly on the wall at that meeting. -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 03:09, 2 December 2011 (EST)
::The other thing we learned, that they showed over and over, is that Spark had zero knowledge of anything that took place outside the ring. So when he said stuff like all the Forerunners died in Halo 2, that was an assumption, but we all heard it as fact. [[User talk:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 05:58, 3 December 2011 (EST)
::The other thing we learned, that they showed over and over, is that Spark had zero knowledge of anything that took place outside the ring. So when he said stuff like all the Forerunners died in Halo 2, that was an assumption, but we all heard it as fact. [[User talk:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 05:58, 3 December 2011 (EST)


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===Support===
===Support===
{{Support}} - As per above.--'''''[[Help:User Levels|<span style="color:green">Commander</span>]]''''' [[User:Halofan1234|<span style="color:red">Halofan1234</span>]] (''[[User talk:Halofan1234|<span style="color:purple">I say</span>]]'' ''[[Special:Contributions/Halofan1234|<span style="color:purple">the cabal</span>]]'' ''[[Special:Editcount/Halofan1234|<span style"color:purple">does not exist</span>]]'') 11:53, 11 December 2011 (EST)
{{Support}} - As per above.--'''''<span style="color:green">Commander</span>''''' [[User:Halofan1234|<span style="color:red">Halofan1234</span>]] (''[[User talk:Halofan1234|<span style="color:purple">I say</span>]]'' ''[[Special:Contributions/Halofan1234|<span style="color:purple">the cabal</span>]]'' ''[[Special:Editcount/Halofan1234|<span style"color:purple">does not exist</span>]]'') 11:53, 11 December 2011 (EST)


{{Support}} - As per both above and what I said on the Halo 3 Terminal page. Vegerot goes RAWR!  [[User:Vegerot|<span style="color:midnightblue; font-weight:bold">Vegerot</span>]] ([[User talk:Vegerot|<span style="color:grey">talk</span>]])  13:58, 11 December 2011 (EST)!
{{Support}} - As per both above and what I said on the Halo 3 Terminal page. Vegerot goes RAWR!  [[User:Vegerot|<span style="color:midnightblue; font-weight:bold">Vegerot</span>]] ([[User talk:Vegerot|<span style="color:grey">talk</span>]])  13:58, 11 December 2011 (EST)!
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==Terminal 11 ==
==Terminal 11 ==
does anyone knows if it can be unlocked in the halo anniversary extras menu or is it just for waypoint?--[[User talk:SGP|SGP]] 22:35, 20 December 2011 (EST)
does anyone knows if it can be unlocked in the halo anniversary extras menu or is it just for waypoint?--[[User talk:SGP|SGP]] 22:35, 20 December 2011 (EST)
:You can only unlock it through Waypoint.--'''''[[Help:User Levels|<span style="color:green">Commander</span>]]''''' '''''[[User:Spartacus|<span style="color:green">Spartacus</span>]]''''' (''[[User talk:Spartacus|<span style="color:orange">Tenth Roman</span>]]'' ''[[Special:Contributions/Spartacus|<span style="color:orange">Battalion</span>]]'') 22:41, 20 December 2011 (EST)
:You can only unlock it through Waypoint.--'''''<span style="color:green">Commander</span>''''' '''''[[User:Spartacus|<span style="color:green">Spartacus</span>]]''''' (''[[User talk:Spartacus|<span style="color:orange">Tenth Roman</span>]]'' ''[[Special:Contributions/Spartacus|<span style="color:orange">Battalion</span>]]'') 22:41, 20 December 2011 (EST)
::I mean that if once unlocked with the keyboard thing on waypoint you can make it appear in the extras menu under the maw terminal... like if you had seen it in the campaing...--[[User talk:SGP|SGP]] 22:43, 20 December 2011 (EST)
::I mean that if once unlocked with the keyboard thing on waypoint you can make it appear in the extras menu under the maw terminal... like if you had seen it in the campaing...--[[User talk:SGP|SGP]] 22:43, 20 December 2011 (EST)
::I'm not sure.--'''''[[Help:User Levels|<span style="color:green">Commander</span>]]''''' '''''[[User:Spartacus|<span style="color:green">Spartacus</span>]]''''' (''[[User talk:Spartacus|<span style="color:orange">Tenth Roman</span>]]'' ''[[Special:Contributions/Spartacus|<span style="color:orange">Battalion</span>]]'') 22:43, 20 December 2011 (EST)
::I'm not sure.--'''''<span style="color:green">Commander</span>''''' '''''[[User:Spartacus|<span style="color:green">Spartacus</span>]]''''' (''[[User talk:Spartacus|<span style="color:orange">Tenth Roman</span>]]'' ''[[Special:Contributions/Spartacus|<span style="color:orange">Battalion</span>]]'') 22:43, 20 December 2011 (EST)
:::Just checked, it doesn't appear. [[User:FatalSnipe117|<span style="color:green">'''pestilence'''</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/FatalSnipe117|<span style="color:green">'''Phil'''</span>]], ''[[User talk:FatalSnipe117|<span style="color:green">'''pestilence!'''</span>]]'' 23:06, 20 December 2011 (EST)
:::Just checked, it doesn't appear. [[User:FatalSnipe117|<span style="color:green">'''pestilence'''</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/FatalSnipe117|<span style="color:green">'''Phil'''</span>]], ''[[User talk:FatalSnipe117|<span style="color:green">'''pestilence!'''</span>]]'' 23:06, 20 December 2011 (EST)