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==Physics of Shields==
I was pondering something while writing my most recent fanfiction, which will be finished hopefully by the release of Halo 3 for anyone interested, but I must repeat hopefully. How exactly do the energy shields accomplish what they do? Stopping projectiles, nullifying plasma charges, absorbing kinetic energy from explosions. Its all seeming very peculiar to me, and I would like some insight if thats not too much to ask. :)
I was pondering something while writing my most recent fanfiction, which will be finished hopefully by the release of Halo 3 for anyone interested, but I must repeat hopefully. How exactly do the energy shields accomplish what they do? Stopping projectiles, nullifying plasma charges, absorbing kinetic energy from explosions. Its all seeming very peculiar to me, and I would like some insight if thats not too much to ask. :)


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Cheers,
Cheers,


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== Fact or Fiction ==
== Fact or Fiction ==
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I have heard that after 15 shield depletions/recharges in halo 2, the shield stops working,is that true?
I have heard that after 15 shield depletions/recharges in halo 2, the shield stops working,is that true?
Not that anyone will ever live that long anyway mind you.--[[User:Mac10&Cheese|Mac10&amp;Cheese]] 18:42, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
Not that anyone will ever live that long anyway mind you.--[[User:Mac10&Cheese|Mac10&amp;Cheese]] 18:42, 27 March 2007 (UTC)
:I've never seen that happen, and shield drains are very common, I bet you would drain your shield 15 time on one of the longer levels, like [[Regret]] on the higher difficulties. --<b>[[User:ED|<font color="000000">ED</font>]]<sub>([[User talk:ED|<font color="000000">talk</font>]])</sub><sup>[http://halofanon.wikia.com/wiki/Halo:_Shock_Front <font color="000000">(shockfront)</font>]</sup></b> 04:04, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
:I've never seen that happen, and shield drains are very common, I bet you would drain your shield 15 time on one of the longer levels, like [[Prophet of Regret|Regret]] on the higher difficulties. --<b>[[User:ED|<font color="000000">ED</font>]]<sub>([[User talk:ED|<font color="000000">talk</font>]])</sub><sup>[http://halofanon.wikia.com/wiki/Halo:_Shock_Front <font color="000000">(shockfront)</font>]</sup></b> 04:04, 8 April 2007 (UTC)
Thats just what i've heard,But it could be true.I mean you won't live that long in multiplayer.--[[User:Mac10&Cheese|Mac10&amp;Cheese]] 03:47, 9 April 2007 (UTC)
Thats just what i've heard,But it could be true.I mean you won't live that long in multiplayer.--[[User:Mac10&Cheese|Mac10&amp;Cheese]] 03:47, 9 April 2007 (UTC)


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In the shield generator ship of the unsc we dont know much about but if it generates a shield and there is an example of the unsc shield ship over reach in the year 2517 then the unsc has had shield technology even before the covenant ever started the war on humanity.  Maybe the unsc only had a limited ability to apply it but with more research and the covenants superior technology to reverse engineer thats why we may have some advancements in it. {{Unsigned|Spartan Matt}}
In the shield generator ship of the unsc we dont know much about but if it generates a shield and there is an example of the unsc shield ship over reach in the year 2517 then the unsc has had shield technology even before the covenant ever started the war on humanity.  Maybe the unsc only had a limited ability to apply it but with more research and the covenants superior technology to reverse engineer thats why we may have some advancements in it. {{Unsigned|Spartan Matt}}


:As far as I'm aware, the ship in question was first seen as discarded concept art, and labelled only "Shield Ship." What might that mean? It looks like a hybrid between a frigate and an Albatross, unloading cargo and vehicles. Nothing remotely shield-like about it. We simply assumed that the "shield" in its name stood for shield generator. Then, when we saw it in Fall of Reach - Bootcamp, we accepted it ac canon without getting a canon name - is shield its function, or its name, or even it's class? Shield-class troop ship? UNSC ''Shield''? We don't know. I think it was a little premature to name it Shield generator ship in the first place. -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 01:09, 6 September 2011 (EDT)
:As far as I'm aware, the ship in question was first seen as discarded concept art, and labelled only "Shield Ship." What might that mean? It looks like a hybrid between a frigate and an Albatross, unloading cargo and vehicles. Nothing remotely shield-like about it. We simply assumed that the "shield" in its name stood for shield generator. Then, when we saw it in Fall of Reach - Bootcamp, we accepted it ac canon without getting a canon name - is shield its function, or its name, or even it's class? Shield-class troop ship? UNSC ''Shield''? We don't know. I think it was a little premature to name it Shield generator ship in the first place. -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 01:09, 6 September 2011 (EDT)


::Actually, it was identified that way (''Shield generator ship'') in the concept art of HCE/H2. Since it's a concept, it's function should never be taken as concrete canon.— <span style="font-size:16px; font-family:OrbitronMedium;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span> 01:31, 6 September 2011 (EDT)
::Actually, it was identified that way (''Shield generator ship'') in the concept art of HCE/H2. Since it's a concept, it's function should never be taken as concrete canon.— <span style="font-size:16px; font-family:OrbitronMedium;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span> 01:31, 6 September 2011 (EDT)


:::Really? My recollection must be wrong. Thanks. -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 07:56, 6 September 2011 (EDT)
:::Really? My recollection must be wrong. Thanks. -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 07:56, 6 September 2011 (EDT)


== Shield colours ==
== Shield colours ==
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== Armour colour not indicative of shield strength ==
== Armour colour not indicative of shield strength ==
Per above, the only time armour colour is indicative of shield strength is only when it is concerned with gameplay experience: in gameplay, Minors are given weaker shield and health properties than Majors, Majors having weaker properties than Ultras and so on. In canon, it would appear that all of the armour (regardless of rank, colour, position) have the same shielding strength; in [[Winter Contingency (level)|Winter Contingency level]] of ''Reach'', it took no more than a magazine from a M6 pistol or a MA37 rifle to remove the energy shields of a Zealot. This is the only time we ever see brass applied on energy shields in a cutscene (Halo Wars' Elites didn't have energy shielding for some unknown reason). So, take the Elites as an example, armour colour indicates the amount of kills they've achieved throughout their service and nothing more. — <span style="font-size:16px; font-family:OrbitronMedium;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span>  00:34, 5 October 2012 (EDT)
Per above, the only time armour colour is indicative of shield strength is only when it is concerned with gameplay experience: in gameplay, Minors are given weaker shield and health properties than Majors, Majors having weaker properties than Ultras and so on. In canon, it would appear that all of the armour (regardless of rank, colour, position) have the same shielding strength; in [[Winter Contingency|Winter Contingency level]] of ''Reach'', it took no more than a magazine from a M6 pistol or a MA37 rifle to remove the energy shields of a Zealot. This is the only time we ever see brass applied on energy shields in a cutscene (Halo Wars' Elites didn't have energy shielding for some unknown reason). So, take the Elites as an example, armour colour indicates the amount of kills they've achieved throughout their service and nothing more. — <span style="font-size:16px; font-family:OrbitronMedium;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span>  00:34, 5 October 2012 (EDT)


:Well, in that cutscene those shields failed to flare when receiving melees (Sara Sorvad punches Jorge and Six punches the Zealot, yet there's no shield reactions then). Plus, looking closely, Carter actually starts firing at the Field Marshal too once he pushes Kat out of the way. And there's been several times in the cutscenes where shields haven't responded properly, such as Emile's charging faster than usual at the beginning of Pillar of Autumn, or why Kat's or all of NOBLE's seem to be down yet there's no shield scatter. Point being, I don't think it's fair to throw out all that data about shield strength just because one cutscene seems to suggest slightly otherwise. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 02:43, 5 October 2012 (EDT)
:Well, in that cutscene those shields failed to flare when receiving melees (Sara Sorvad punches Jorge and Six punches the Zealot, yet there's no shield reactions then). Plus, looking closely, Carter actually starts firing at the Field Marshal too once he pushes Kat out of the way. And there's been several times in the cutscenes where shields haven't responded properly, such as Emile's charging faster than usual at the beginning of Pillar of Autumn, or why Kat's or all of NOBLE's seem to be down yet there's no shield scatter. Point being, I don't think it's fair to throw out all that data about shield strength just because one cutscene seems to suggest slightly otherwise. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 02:43, 5 October 2012 (EDT)
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I don't think Six got impaled by the dagger. There's a quick flash of Six's left arm pushing the Zealot's arm out of the way (darn shaky cam!) and he has no damage when the gameplay resumes. [[Exodus|And Bungie has shown willingness to have gameplay start with some damage for the sake of the story]]. Anyway, I don't really see how the stabbing/no stabbing of sword or dagger applies. The important aspect is how much room Six had to throw a punch and that can't be told in either cutscene because we can't see their full position. Even then, I'd be willing to wager a "weak" punch by a Spartan that's been augmented, trained to death, ''and'' has strength increasing armor is still going to be a very strong blow ''even'' when lying on the floor.
I don't think Six got impaled by the dagger. There's a quick flash of Six's left arm pushing the Zealot's arm out of the way (darn shaky cam!) and he has no damage when the gameplay resumes. [[Exodus|And Bungie has shown willingness to have gameplay start with some damage for the sake of the story]]. Anyway, I don't really see how the stabbing/no stabbing of sword or dagger applies. The important aspect is how much room Six had to throw a punch and that can't be told in either cutscene because we can't see their full position. Even then, I'd be willing to wager a "weak" punch by a Spartan that's been augmented, trained to death, ''and'' has strength increasing armor is still going to be a very strong blow ''even'' when lying on the floor.


From the assault rifle angle, it fires for about 2 and a half seconds, a reasonable length. But then he receives the rifle back with exactly [[7]] bullets left. Proof of artistic license being invoked in its firing, just like in Lone Wolf? I'm not sure. But I think the assault rifle having been made stronger is, in my opinion, the more reasonable and realistic answer, since we know for sure that their effectiveness gets adjusted for gameplay. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 22:58, 21 October 2012 (EDT)
From the assault rifle angle, it fires for about 2 and a half seconds, a reasonable length. But then he receives the rifle back with exactly [[Seven|7]] bullets left. Proof of artistic license being invoked in its firing, just like in Lone Wolf? I'm not sure. But I think the assault rifle having been made stronger is, in my opinion, the more reasonable and realistic answer, since we know for sure that their effectiveness gets adjusted for gameplay. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 22:58, 21 October 2012 (EDT)


:The health, or biometric system as it is referred to in canon, captures the "health" (bluntly put, I know). It does not cover the condition of the armour. That being said, I am certain that the Zealot did impale Six with its dagger (the sound of the dagger making contact with the armour was played, if I'm not mistaken) but it did not breach it to the extent that it injured Six. The chestpiece is after all the thickest part of the armour. Entirely different with your Exodus example. And the reason why the whole "stabbing with energy sword or dagger" matters is simple: it concerns the distance of the aggressor to its target. The Zealot who successfully impaled Six would indicate that he is much closer to Six than the Zealot who tried to impale Six with an energy sword. This is further evidence to show that Six was pinned down to the floor in Winter Contingency (and as such did not have enough room to throw a good punch) and limited freedom of space compared to his final showdown. Mythbuster did [http://mythbustersresults.com/coffin-punch something similar involving punching at a narrow space] and it did not produce good force. It was concluded that a good punch exerting a lot of force requires a good spread of space.
:The health, or biometric system as it is referred to in canon, captures the "health" (bluntly put, I know). It does not cover the condition of the armour. That being said, I am certain that the Zealot did impale Six with its dagger (the sound of the dagger making contact with the armour was played, if I'm not mistaken) but it did not breach it to the extent that it injured Six. The chestpiece is after all the thickest part of the armour. Entirely different with your Exodus example. And the reason why the whole "stabbing with energy sword or dagger" matters is simple: it concerns the distance of the aggressor to its target. The Zealot who successfully impaled Six would indicate that he is much closer to Six than the Zealot who tried to impale Six with an energy sword. This is further evidence to show that Six was pinned down to the floor in Winter Contingency (and as such did not have enough room to throw a good punch) and limited freedom of space compared to his final showdown. Mythbuster did [http://mythbustersresults.com/coffin-punch something similar involving punching at a narrow space] and it did not produce good force. It was concluded that a good punch exerting a lot of force requires a good spread of space.
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Presumably the shield still has holes small enough to let air in. John in ''First Strike'' comments how he can feel air enter his helmet from the scrubber vents in the front. And wasn't there that Elite, [[Bero 'Kusovai]], who inhaled a few too many Flood spores? Also, Dare, Brutes, and Jackals were covered in Overshields from Engineers during the Battle of New Mombasa which were highly visible and surrounded their whole body, and yet none of them suffocated from the lack of air. None of them have any visible air source too. It seems shields are designed to let in air. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 00:30, 23 October 2012 (EDT)
Presumably the shield still has holes small enough to let air in. John in ''First Strike'' comments how he can feel air enter his helmet from the scrubber vents in the front. And wasn't there that Elite, [[Bero 'Kusovai]], who inhaled a few too many Flood spores? Also, Dare, Brutes, and Jackals were covered in Overshields from Engineers during the Battle of New Mombasa which were highly visible and surrounded their whole body, and yet none of them suffocated from the lack of air. None of them have any visible air source too. It seems shields are designed to let in air. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 00:30, 23 October 2012 (EDT)
:Halo provides a definition of what is health, ''many'' don't. In fact, that TvTropes page itself listed the shields instead the health. And once again, ''everyone reacts differently''. When shot in the body, a soldier might stop and tend to his wound while another might just ignore it and keep on fighting. Similarly, when punched to the face, one might keep on punching while suppressing the pain while others would, as you said, pause. Generalisation of behaviour sucks. :P
:FoR provides the following description when the MJOLNIR's energy shielding is activated: ''"The air around the Master Chief popped — as if it jumped away from the MJOLNIR armor. There was none of the shimmer that normal Covenant shields had."'' Quite specific about the separation of user and environment, and Covenant shields here refers to Jackal's gauntlet (in the pre-2010 edition; not sure if this has been altered in the newer editions). If there are gaps within the shielding layer small enough to allow the air to enter, the air won't "popped".
:The only way for John's commentin ''First Strike'' to make sense is to refer to the "guesswork", unless we are to consider that the description provided above is no longer followed by the author and that the shielding does not separate the user from the environment. Also, HGN does not provide anything about 'Kusovai's transformation into the Flood as a result of inhaling too many Flood spores. A citation is needed for that. If so, one would need to question why 'Vadam and 'Vadum are not transformed into Flood forms. The Covenant is no in possession of a Flood cure. <s>And your examples from ''Recon'' simply provide more reason why Nylund's description in FoR has been abandoned in the games and in favour of the "guesswork". Overshield is simply a concentrated layer of energy shielding capable of taking more damage.</s>
:Again, this is becoming more of "how energy shields work" discussion than "whether Elites do have varying health/shielding as they get promoted". As I stated a few weeks ago, ''"[to] discuss the operation of shielding technology is almost impossible and cannot be realistically explained. Doing so will just end up with tons of theories."'' The essential question that should be answered is simply this: Is the portrayal of shield strength and amount of health as determined by Covenant ranks in the games canon? I've made the conclusion that ''"Occam's razor would suggest that this is just gameplay [language]"'' and used Winter Contingency as an example (but I did not anticipate to over-analyse the entire cutscenes in Halo games). — <span style="font-size:16px; font-family:OrbitronMedium;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span>  03:18, 23 October 2012 (EDT)
A mention of air popping away? Yes, finally a specific proof! That does suggest a different operation at work. Perhaps, though, it just means the air was just pushed away, not cut off? Eh, more speculation. The spore thing came from [[Flood spores#Trivia]]. Thanks a lot for failing me, page.
I'm not sure what you're saying about Overshields in ''ODST''. You acknowledge that they're a surrounding layer that's always active, but they must abandon Nylund's description if air can come through, but that same description proves Elite shields must be different to provide air, but at the same time the Overshields exist and... I don't get it.
Returning to the issue of shield strength, I don't think that even if the Field Marshal's shields are really that less strong, that it would mean ''all'' Elite shields are weak. It could just mean real Elite Minors would have even weaker shields that means they wouldn't even get to take two steps in that cutscene's scenario. There's no proof of its effect on other ranks. You cite Occam's Razor, but I don't think it's the simplest answer to throw out years of gameplay info. To me, the simplest answer was that it was just adjusted for the cutscene, because they needed an excuse for the Elites to run away. That's why I think this should just be a note, either in the trivia, brought up in a paragraph, or cited in the notes section. That's what got done on the really complicated "Is [[glassing]] real?" issue and it's worked pretty well there. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 03:46, 23 October 2012 (EDT)
:I thought you knew?!! That was Nylund's description of how the MJOLNIR's energy shielding operate. If there are gaps in the shielding layer, then the air would "hiss", not "pop". Like how a punctured tire would, I imagine. The more I read the novels, the more confused I am trying to make sense of how energy shielding works. Nylund seems to only use his description of energy shielding only when it is appropriate to do so: the description was applied when John had to lower his energy shields in order to move through a narrow corridor, and when Kelly's shield gets pelted by splinters and stones after her first encounter with Kurt on Onyx, but never during fist-fighting. It's also never clear how strong the Elites' shields are in the novels: in FoR, it took Linda five sniper shots to down an Elite Ranger, John fired three-burst from his MA5B to down a SpecOps in The Flood and First Strike, and Tom "sprayed" an unknown amount from his MA5K on an Elite of unknown rank in Ghosts of Onyx (though Tom killed the Elite, who was armed with an energy sword and a plasma pistol, by firing "into the slit of its helmet").
:I think I've confused myself right now by mixing gameplay into canon when I made the comment about ''Recon'' ( d=____="b ). I blame reading the novels. Slashing now. Anyway, how an Engineer produces its own energy shielding and applying it to its surroundings in ''Recon'' and ''Reach'' is anyone's guess since it's the first time we see one doing so. Maybe nanobots since they are of "nano-mechanical surrogates"?
:Since the novels themselves are inconsistent (and being more vague) with the games, I decided to refer to the games themselves and see whether there is a consistent shield strength in all four games. Using Heroic difficulty and just a plasma pistol, the results are... odd:
::*H1: Elites are of the same health but varying shield strength.
::*H2: Shield strength and health increases per rank. Ranger has the same qualities of a Major. A SpecOps has the same qualities of a Zealot.
::*H3: Not tested since they kept getting injured by the Flood. The fact that they're constantly moving is not helping at all.
::*Reach: SpecOps and Rangers share the same amount as Minors in terms of shield strength but both have greater health points. All other increases per rank. In Firefight, SpecOps have lower shield strength than Minors. Rangers have identical shield strength as Minors.
:The difficulty is getting them in one spot. Heroic is chosen because allies in normal difficulty will keep killing the Elites successfully in some games. The above finding supports my conclusion that it's not as consistent as you would like to believe. I really don't want to read the novels again... it's a mess. :/ — <span style="font-size:16px; font-family:OrbitronMedium;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span>  11:01, 23 October 2012 (EDT)
Best place to test Elite shields in ''Halo 3'' is in The Covenant just after you and they defeated the first wave of Brutes outside the tower, but before you enter instead. Then get your choice of weapons and shoot them! Elite Rangers and SpecOps have been pretty variable. Their armor design, their method of flight, how much they actually use their cloaking, etc. But they're easier to alter without backlash because they're not a mainstream rank. They might have been adjusted to make them easier to kill. Trying to kill them in ''Halo 2'' wasn't fun.
Alright, so here's what I'd write for this page: "During the cutscene ''Skeleton Crew'' of [[Winter Contingency|Winter Contingency]], the [[Sangheili Field Marshal]]'s shields falls from a relatively brief burst of Assault Rifle fire. In the same cutscene Jorge and a Zealot's shield do not flare when being meleed. This may represent that the Zealots' energy shields are weaker in canon, that the Assault Rifle is stronger in canon, or that both were adjusted in the cutscene to equal the fighting level." That work? [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 11:47, 23 October 2012 (EDT)
:The issue with Halo 3 is getting data of the SpecOps: they only appear in Floodgate. Also tested on Jackals and Grunts: results are expected, that is the higher the rank, the more health the biped has. Quite conclusive that this is largely gameplay language and not actual canon (aside from the Elite culture of armour colour denoting the amount of kills they've achieved).
:The discussion is not about the cutscene but rather the use (and removal) of "[this rank] has a [superior/inferior] shield strength" in present articles (thus answering my question about the portrayal of the features). This article is perfect in the current state: no mention of ranks having varying shield strength. With hindsight, I think I should've started the discussion on the [[Sangheili personal energy shield]]... oh well. :P — <span style="font-size:16px; font-family:OrbitronMedium;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span>  12:57, 23 October 2012 (EDT)
In that case we have no cutscene data on the shield differences between ranks, since we've only seen its effect on Zealots. In that case, well, can't think of anything to amend. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 13:09, 23 October 2012 (EDT)
:Indeed, nothing on the Zealots for now. According to the Zealot article, they made only one appearance in the novel. — <span style="font-size:16px; font-family:OrbitronMedium;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span>  13:14, 23 October 2012 (EDT)
== Details ==
This article is void of the very in depth mechanics of how energy shields work that is presented in the books.
It's directly stated the shields act as a "liquid" that flows and focuses at the point of impact, and it get's overloaded when it's spread too thin between too many points. [[Special:Contributions/71.20.194.33|71.20.194.33]] 14:02, 25 April 2013 (EDT)
:Where does it say that? [[Special:Contributions/86.149.96.2|86.149.96.2]] 16:56, 9 September 2013 (EDT)
Well there you go. It would most likely be plasma based, and would have to be able to detect the environment.{{Unsigned|Mancave300}}
==Better Descriptor?==
Hey, I've been reading the ''Titanfall'' Game Guide, and one word stood out at me that I thought maybe we could use (as it is not a copy-written word, and thus public domain), is '''bodyshield'''. Okay, now forget ''Titanfall''. Bodyshield does apply in this context, as it refers to the energy shields worn by infantry types, not spacecraft shielding. I think we could also add this as an alternate, better descriptor (maybe even a redirect) to aid with editing and things like that, perhaps make a mention of the word in the intro paragraph, if there aren't any objections. Thoughts or concerns? --'''''[[User:Xamikaze330|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Halo;">Xamikaze330</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Xamikaze330|<font color="Blue">Transmission</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Xamikaze330|<font color="Green">Commencing</font>]]''''']</small> 16:22, 24 May 2014 (EDT)Xamikaze330
:To me that still sounds too franchise-specific, especially when written as a single word (as opposed to "body shield"). There are some terms which have become universal among different science fiction universes and have indeed been used in ''Halo'' but until this one gets mentioned in official media I wouldn't start applying it here. Otherwise we might as well start calling the War Games training environment a "holodeck", hard light holography "soligrams", Halo's firing a "gigadeathcrime", etc. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 08:56, 25 May 2014 (EDT)