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Also, the Great Journey ''is'' a false religion and ITS A VIDEO GAME!--[[User talk:Kre 'Nunumee|Kre 'Nunumee]] 17:04, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
Also, the Great Journey ''is'' a false religion and ITS A VIDEO GAME!--[[User talk:Kre 'Nunumee|Kre 'Nunumee]] 17:04, 28 August 2009 (UTC)
I know these discussions were years ago, but reading this I think that it's not objective enough: there are sections that read less like an encyclopedia and more like a dramatic retelling. It's cool, granted, but I feel like it doesn't meet the standards for the wiki's style of writing. Stuff like "Then, the unthinkable happened"; referring to the Halos as "sacred rings" outside quotation marks; saying "The Flood, or 'The Parasite' as referred to by members of the Covenant, are an unholy, virulent species" etc. Should this be changed or is there a purpose to it? -- [[User:126 Joyous Testimony|126 Joyous Testimony]] 22:09, 28 March 2017 (UTC)
:You're absolutely right, those parts should be altered to be more neutral. Even if this is a Covenant-focused article it shouldn't read like it's written from Covenant POV. --[[User:Jugus|Jugus]] ([[User talk:Jugus|talk]]) 00:40, 29 March 2017 (EDT)


== Forerunner great journey; truth in terminals? ==
== Forerunner great journey; truth in terminals? ==
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::I was considering something similar. "The Path" is much more nondescriptive as an article title than the current one. As for it being a way to describe their set of doctrines... that's essentially another way of saying it's what they call their religion. This is particularly apparent, I thought, by the last of the three above quotes. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 02:37, 20 November 2014 (EST)
::I was considering something similar. "The Path" is much more nondescriptive as an article title than the current one. As for it being a way to describe their set of doctrines... that's essentially another way of saying it's what they call their religion. This is particularly apparent, I thought, by the last of the three above quotes. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 02:37, 20 November 2014 (EST)
{{Quote|Creatures of the Covenant, the Path is broad and we shall walk it side by side.|Prophet of Truth}}
{{Quote|Creatures of the Covenant, the Path is broad and we shall walk it side by side.|Prophet of Truth}}
:::I don't know about it being an official or unofficial name for their religion, any more than calling Jesus "the Light and the Way" makes that an unofficial name for Christianity, especially since the Covenant seem to have no separation between religion, government and culture. My suggestion is to note that devotees of the Covenant refer to its teachings as "the Path," but to keep the article name we currently have. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 06:13, 20 November 2014 (EST)
:::I don't know about it being an official or unofficial name for their religion, any more than calling Jesus "the Light and the Way" makes that an unofficial name for Christianity, especially since the Covenant seem to have no separation between religion, government and culture. My suggestion is to note that devotees of the Covenant refer to its teachings as "the Path," but to keep the article name we currently have. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 06:13, 20 November 2014 (EST)


::::I agree about keeping the page title as it is. Mainly it just stuck out to me how one of the Elites, post-Schism, casually mentions that there were some who held on to "some form of the Path" after himself forsaking the religion. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 10:08, 20 November 2014 (EST)
::::I agree about keeping the page title as it is. Mainly it just stuck out to me how one of the Elites, post-Schism, casually mentions that there were some who held on to "some form of the Path" after himself forsaking the religion. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 10:08, 20 November 2014 (EST)
== Great Journey ==
I believe the Great Journey deserves its own page. Not only is it a central concept in the Covenant religion, but we should also cover its significance to the Forerunners in regards to their exile (which we've known about since the ''Halo 3'' terminals). --[[User:Jugus|Jugus]] ([[User talk:Jugus|talk]]) 03:01, 10 October 2016 (EDT)
Agreed, I thought we actually had a page on that until I read this. [[User:Alertfiend|Alertfiend]] - Warning, my comments may appear passive aggressive. <small>([[User talk:AlertFiend|Converse]]) </small> 06:03, 10 October 2016 (EDT)
:| I agree. The same goes for the concept of the Reclamation. This is somewhere Halo Wiki is actually ahead of us, sadly.c-Japeth555
==Imps?==
Where, exactly, is it stated that ODST are referred to as "imps" by the Covenant?[[User:The Ragin Pagan|The Ragin Pagan]] ([[User talk:The Ragin Pagan|talk]]) 00:46, 28 October 2018 (EDT)
:The whole Demon lines are not in ODST and is replaced with lines with Imp in it, its a small change you wouldnt notice normally, even I had to look out for it.-[[User:CIA391|CIA391]] ([[User talk:CIA391|talk]]) 06:26, 28 October 2018 (EDT)
::I'm really only seeing a single line, said when they kill you. Is this really enough to warrant inclusion in Covenant religious beliefs?[[User:The Ragin Pagan|The Ragin Pagan]] ([[User talk:The Ragin Pagan|talk]]) 00:30, 29 October 2018 (EDT)
:::I have heard Grunts and Brutes use it. We dont particularly have all the random enemy dialogue from ODST up as we would like.-[[User:CIA391|CIA391]] ([[User talk:CIA391|talk]]) 06:30, 29 October 2018 (EDT)