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So, Harvest was home to a Flood containment facility. Hmm. I'm actually not offended; we've known that Harvest features large, hidden Forerunner structures, and Ensemble obviously wants to incorporate all four main factions. Note that the "Relic" and the surrounding area greatly resemble their counterparts in the announcement trailer. As a side note, Five Long Years and Field Trip to Harvest seem to indicate that, after Harvest was retaken, even more vicious fighting began. Apparently, the Flood was released after Harvest was retaken. --[[User:Braidenvl|Braidenvl]] 21:16, 4 October 2008 (UTC)
So, Harvest was home to a Flood containment facility. Hmm. I'm actually not offended; we've known that Harvest features large, hidden Forerunner structures, and Ensemble obviously wants to incorporate all four main factions. Note that the "Relic" and the surrounding area greatly resemble their counterparts in the announcement trailer. As a side note, Five Long Years and Field Trip to Harvest seem to indicate that, after Harvest was retaken, even more vicious fighting began. Apparently, the Flood was released after Harvest was retaken. --[[User:Braidenvl|Braidenvl]] 21:16, 4 October 2008 (UTC)


:Just wondering, Fall of Reach along with First Strike never mentioned a Flood Outbreak in Harvest. So, how would Ensemble justify this?[[User Talk:Subtank|<font color="#0000FF"><tt>Little</tt></font>]][[w:c:halofanon:Category:Subtank|<font color="#0000FF"><tt>_</tt></font>]][[User:Subtank|<font color="#0090FF"><tt>Missy</tt></font>]] - File:Cortana Gif.gif|24px]] 20:15, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
:Just wondering, Fall of Reach along with First Strike never mentioned a Flood Outbreak in Harvest. So, how would Ensemble justify this?[[User Talk:Subtank|<font color="#0000FF"><tt>Little</tt></font>]][[halofanon:Category:Subtank|<font color="#0000FF"><tt>_</tt></font>]][[User:Subtank|<font color="#0090FF"><tt>Missy</tt></font>]] - File:Cortana Gif.gif|24px]] 20:15, 6 October 2008 (UTC)


:They justified quite a few previously uncanon idea. The number of Spartans concentrated on Harvest for one, and how the UNSC supposedly had no contact with Elites or Brutes until 2552 on Reach. [[Halopedia:Administrators|<span style="color: #000000; font-family: Stencil; font-size: 12pt;">Rec</span>]]UoH/Command Staff|<span style="color: #082567; font-family: Stencil; font-size: 12pt;">lai</span>]]  [[User talk:Simon rjh|<span style="color: #FF0000; font-family: Stencil; font-size: 12pt;">r</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Simon_rjh|<span style="color: #008000; font-family: Stencil; font-size: 12pt;">j</span>]]<span class="plainlinks">[http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Halo3/Default.aspx?player=simon%20rjh <span style="color: #000000; font-family: Stencil; font-size: 12pt;">h</span>]</span> 21:31, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
:They justified quite a few previously uncanon idea. The number of Spartans concentrated on Harvest for one, and how the UNSC supposedly had no contact with Elites or Brutes until 2552 on Reach. [[Halopedia:Administrators|<span style="color: #000000; font-family: Stencil; font-size: 12pt;">Rec</span>]]UoH/Command Staff|<span style="color: #082567; font-family: Stencil; font-size: 12pt;">lai</span>]]  [[User talk:Simon rjh|<span style="color: #FF0000; font-family: Stencil; font-size: 12pt;">r</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Simon_rjh|<span style="color: #008000; font-family: Stencil; font-size: 12pt;">j</span>]]<span class="plainlinks">[http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Halo3/Default.aspx?player=simon%20rjh <span style="color: #000000; font-family: Stencil; font-size: 12pt;">h</span>]</span> 21:31, 6 October 2008 (UTC)
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:Halo Wars: Genesis only refers to him being ''a'' Warlord Thrall. Thrall is usually a description used for an underling, signifying they're a servant of a higher lord. Like a Vassal. I don't think its his name. Its his former title.
:Halo Wars: Genesis only refers to him being ''a'' Warlord Thrall. Thrall is usually a description used for an underling, signifying they're a servant of a higher lord. Like a Vassal. I don't think its his name. Its his former title.


:I have the game, and it never mentions his name. Why would it? He's been stripped of it. His only title is Arbiter. --<b>CoH|<font color=purple>Councillor</font>]]</b> <b>[[User:Specops306|<font color=blue> Specops</font>]][[UserWiki:Specops306|<font color=blue>306</font>]] - <i>[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=purple>Qur'a</font>]] [[w:c:halofanon:Operation:_HOT_GATES|<font color=purple>'Morhek</font>]]</i></b> 22:37, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
:I have the game, and it never mentions his name. Why would it? He's been stripped of it. His only title is Arbiter. --<b>CoH|<font color=purple>Councillor</font>]]</b> <b>[[User:Specops306|<font color=blue> Specops</font>]]UserWiki:Specops306|<font color=blue>306</font>]] - <i>[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=purple>Qur'a</font>]] [[halofanon:Operation:_HOT_GATES|<font color=purple>'Morhek</font>]]</i></b> 22:37, 26 February 2009 (UTC)


Thank you for clearing this up :) Is it just that one passage that says the word Thrall in the book? [[User talk:Gado|Gado]] 22:54, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
Thank you for clearing this up :) Is it just that one passage that says the word Thrall in the book? [[User talk:Gado|Gado]] 22:54, 26 February 2009 (UTC)
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Considering that Thel 'Vadamee has magically become the Arbiter as per some editing meme, I don't expect anyone to listen, but the strategy guide explicitly gives his name as Ripa 'Moramee. Edit if you so desire. I can't stomach another Arbiter name debate.--[[User talk:Hawki|Hawki]] 03:43, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
Considering that Thel 'Vadamee has magically become the Arbiter as per some editing meme, I don't expect anyone to listen, but the strategy guide explicitly gives his name as Ripa 'Moramee. Edit if you so desire. I can't stomach another Arbiter name debate.--[[User talk:Hawki|Hawki]] 03:43, 27 February 2009 (UTC)


:If is says that's his name, then by all means, move the page to it. --<b>CoH|<font color=purple>Councillor</font>]]</b> <b>[[User:Specops306|<font color=blue> Specops</font>]][[UserWiki:Specops306|<font color=blue>306</font>]] - <i>[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=purple>Qur'a</font>]] [[w:c:halofanon:Operation:_HOT_GATES|<font color=purple>'Morhek</font>]]</i></b> 23:06, 28 February 2009 (UTC)
:If is says that's his name, then by all means, move the page to it. --<b>CoH|<font color=purple>Councillor</font>]]</b> <b>[[User:Specops306|<font color=blue> Specops</font>]]UserWiki:Specops306|<font color=blue>306</font>]] - <i>[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=purple>Qur'a</font>]] [[halofanon:Operation:_HOT_GATES|<font color=purple>'Morhek</font>]]</i></b> 23:06, 28 February 2009 (UTC)


I don't have the strategy guide yet, but Ripa 'Moramee is more like an Elite name that Thrall. Also, when I read Genesis, I took the "Warlord Thrall" bit as a description of his role, not as his name. [[User talk:Sith Alchemy 101|Sith Alchemy 101]] 11:51, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
I don't have the strategy guide yet, but Ripa 'Moramee is more like an Elite name that Thrall. Also, when I read Genesis, I took the "Warlord Thrall" bit as a description of his role, not as his name. [[User talk:Sith Alchemy 101|Sith Alchemy 101]] 11:51, 27 February 2009 (UTC)
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Well, it was one thing to draw a weapon without the intention of using it, but just ''think'' about it. He drew a weapon in the presence of a Hierarch! According to Contact Harvest and The Cole Protcol, the Honor Guards should have immediately taken him out. Maybe they let him be by virtue of [[Arbiter|his position]], and, thus, his usefulness to Regret and the Journey. Of course, this also leads to the argument of whether they were full-time Honor Guards (they look like Minors and Majors). --[[User talk:Braidenvl|&quot;A government strong enough to give you everything you want...is strong enough to take everything you have.&quot; -Thomas Jefferson]] 01:59, 10 March 2009 (UTC)
Well, it was one thing to draw a weapon without the intention of using it, but just ''think'' about it. He drew a weapon in the presence of a Hierarch! According to Contact Harvest and The Cole Protcol, the Honor Guards should have immediately taken him out. Maybe they let him be by virtue of [[Arbiter|his position]], and, thus, his usefulness to Regret and the Journey. Of course, this also leads to the argument of whether they were full-time Honor Guards (they look like Minors and Majors). --[[User talk:Braidenvl|&quot;A government strong enough to give you everything you want...is strong enough to take everything you have.&quot; -Thomas Jefferson]] 01:59, 10 March 2009 (UTC)


:I'm not actually sure they are Honour Guards. They seem to match the warriors Ripa uses in [[Halo Wars: Genesis|the graphic novel]] precisely. If they're the Arbiter's personal legion, rather than the protectors of the Prophets, then naturally they wouldn't have touched him. --<b>CoH|<font color=purple>Councillor</font>]]</b> <b>[[User:Specops306|<font color=blue> Specops</font>]][[UserWiki:Specops306|<font color=blue>306</font>]] - <i>[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=purple>Qur'a</font>]] [[w:c:halofanon:Operation:_HOT_GATES|<font color=purple>'Morhek</font>]]</i></b> 20:37, 14 March 2009 (UTC)
:I'm not actually sure they are Honour Guards. They seem to match the warriors Ripa uses in [[Halo Wars: Genesis|the graphic novel]] precisely. If they're the Arbiter's personal legion, rather than the protectors of the Prophets, then naturally they wouldn't have touched him. --<b>CoH|<font color=purple>Councillor</font>]]</b> <b>[[User:Specops306|<font color=blue> Specops</font>]]UserWiki:Specops306|<font color=blue>306</font>]] - <i>[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=purple>Qur'a</font>]] [[halofanon:Operation:_HOT_GATES|<font color=purple>'Morhek</font>]]</i></b> 20:37, 14 March 2009 (UTC)


I wouldn't know much about that, but the game has some inconsistencies, such as Spartans with shields, and some things which seem odd, like Ripa dual weilding swords and the aforementioned disregard for honor. [[User talk:Krakenkiller|Krakenkiller]] 10:44, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
I wouldn't know much about that, but the game has some inconsistencies, such as Spartans with shields, and some things which seem odd, like Ripa dual weilding swords and the aforementioned disregard for honor. [[User talk:Krakenkiller|Krakenkiller]] 10:44, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
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Are we sure that Ripa 'Moramee's homeworld is Sanghelios? Halo Wars: Genesis says the following: "Although some feared that he also had a '''''desire''''' for... ... '''''greatness.'''''", with "Sangheili Base World, Decided Heart" at top showing a city of some kind. On the next page, it says "He went too far, though, attempting a coup on '''''his own''''' Sangheili clan leader.". Wouldn't that mean his homeworld is Decided Heart? According to [[Decided Heart]], it is where the clan of Warlords have settled. Halo Wars: Genesis also says he was "a warlord thrall". Can someone clear this up for me? [[User talk:RpgNick|RpgNick]] 19:53, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
Are we sure that Ripa 'Moramee's homeworld is Sanghelios? Halo Wars: Genesis says the following: "Although some feared that he also had a '''''desire''''' for... ... '''''greatness.'''''", with "Sangheili Base World, Decided Heart" at top showing a city of some kind. On the next page, it says "He went too far, though, attempting a coup on '''''his own''''' Sangheili clan leader.". Wouldn't that mean his homeworld is Decided Heart? According to [[Decided Heart]], it is where the clan of Warlords have settled. Halo Wars: Genesis also says he was "a warlord thrall". Can someone clear this up for me? [[User talk:RpgNick|RpgNick]] 19:53, 9 March 2009 (UTC)


Its like a type of Warlord, i think. <span style="font-family: Palatino Linotype;"><b>[[User Talk:ONI recon 111|<font color="blue">1st</font>]] [[UserWiki:ONI recon 111|<font color="#red">Class</font>]] [[w:c:halofanon:Category:ONI recon 111|<font color="light blue">Cadet</font>]] [[User:ONI recon 111|<font color="green">ONI recon 111</font>]] | </b> File:1227612553 First3.jpg|30px]]</span> 19:55, 9 March 2009 (UTC)
Its like a type of Warlord, i think. <span style="font-family: Palatino Linotype;"><b>[[User Talk:ONI recon 111|<font color="blue">1st</font>]] UserWiki:ONI recon 111|<font color="#red">Class</font>]] [[halofanon:Category:ONI recon 111|<font color="light blue">Cadet</font>]] [[User:ONI recon 111|<font color="green">ONI recon 111</font>]] | </b> File:1227612553 First3.jpg|30px]]</span> 19:55, 9 March 2009 (UTC)




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I'm not sure where I got this, but I was somehow under the impression that one set of armor was passed down through all the arbiters. [[User talk:Krakenkiller|Krakenkiller]] 10:45, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
I'm not sure where I got this, but I was somehow under the impression that one set of armor was passed down through all the arbiters. [[User talk:Krakenkiller|Krakenkiller]] 10:45, 4 April 2009 (UTC)


Its one of those assumptions we all make that has never actually been stated in the Halo universe. All Truth ever says about the Arbiters is that they rest in the Mausoleum - he never says every Arbiter wears the same armour. -- <b>[[Halopedia:Administrators|<font color=blue>Administrator</font>]] [[User:Specops306|<font color=blue>Specops306</font>]] - ''[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=purple>Qur'a 'Morhek</font>]]'' <sup>''[[w:c:halofanon:Operation: HOT GATES|<u><font color=blue>Honour Light Your Way!</font></u>]]''</sup></b> 23:36, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
Its one of those assumptions we all make that has never actually been stated in the Halo universe. All Truth ever says about the Arbiters is that they rest in the Mausoleum - he never says every Arbiter wears the same armour. -- <b>[[Halopedia:Administrators|<font color=blue>Administrator</font>]] [[User:Specops306|<font color=blue>Specops306</font>]] - ''[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=purple>Qur'a 'Morhek</font>]]'' <sup>''[[halofanon:Operation: HOT GATES|<u><font color=blue>Honour Light Your Way!</font></u>]]''</sup></b> 23:36, 4 April 2009 (UTC)


It might be possible that the Arbiter originated in the pre-Covenant age as a purely Sangheili tradition, and that they were later honored in the mausoleum after the construction of High Charity, meaning that most of the caskets are empty and only there for ceremonious reasons. Thus Ripa is the 17th Arbiter after the Covenant's formation, but the 187th arbiter in Sangheili history. It might also be a mistake by either Bungie or Ensemble.--[[User talk:Kre &#39;Nunumee|Kre &#39;Nunumee]] 20:35, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
It might be possible that the Arbiter originated in the pre-Covenant age as a purely Sangheili tradition, and that they were later honored in the mausoleum after the construction of High Charity, meaning that most of the caskets are empty and only there for ceremonious reasons. Thus Ripa is the 17th Arbiter after the Covenant's formation, but the 187th arbiter in Sangheili history. It might also be a mistake by either Bungie or Ensemble.--[[User talk:Kre &#39;Nunumee|Kre &#39;Nunumee]] 20:35, 14 April 2009 (UTC)
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==Expansion==
==Expansion==
*Does anyone have additional biographical information that can be used to flesh this out a little? Specifically, I'm wondering about 'Moramee's early years and life before becoming the [[Arbiter]]. I know the Prima Official Guide and the comic book which shipped with the Legendary Edition for [[Halo Wars]] have backstory not in the game (some of which has already been relied on as sources), but as I do not have either of these I'm wondering if someone who does could provide any noteworthy material. I've been tempted to nominate this for [[Halopedia:Featured Article|FA]], but I'd like to see if we can bulk it up a bit first. Thanks, [[User:Master Gump|Master Gump]]<sup>[[User talk:Master Gump|Me, myself and me are very important... Or not]]</sup> 02:35, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
*Does anyone have additional biographical information that can be used to flesh this out a little? Specifically, I'm wondering about 'Moramee's early years and life before becoming the [[Arbiter]]. I know the Prima Official Guide and the comic book which shipped with the Legendary Edition for [[Halo Wars]] have backstory not in the game (some of which has already been relied on as sources), but as I do not have either of these I'm wondering if someone who does could provide any noteworthy material. I've been tempted to nominate this for [[Halopedia:Featured/Article|FA]], but I'd like to see if we can bulk it up a bit first. Thanks, [[User:Master Gump|Master Gump]]<sup>[[User talk:Master Gump|Me, myself and me are very important... Or not]]</sup> 02:35, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
:I have both the guide and the comic, but unfortunately anything note worthy from either has already been mentioned in the article. [[User talk:Zeno &#39;Ribal|Zeno &#39;Ribal]] 21:08, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
:I have both the guide and the comic, but unfortunately anything note worthy from either has already been mentioned in the article. [[User talk:Zeno &#39;Ribal|Zeno &#39;Ribal]] 21:08, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
*Ok, thanks. [[User:Master Gump|Master Gump]]<sup>[[User talk:Master Gump|Me, myself and me are very important... Or not]]</sup> 22:58, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
*Ok, thanks. [[User:Master Gump|Master Gump]]<sup>[[User talk:Master Gump|Me, myself and me are very important... Or not]]</sup> 22:58, 4 April 2009 (UTC)
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:''Krith's Left Hand'' yo.[[User:Sith Venator|<span style="color:green">Sith Venator</span>]] [[File:Mega Blastoise.gif|20px]] ([[User talk:Sith Venator|<span style="color:blue">Dank Memes</span>]]) 00:54, 16 February 2017 (EST)
:''Krith's Left Hand'' yo.[[User:Sith Venator|<span style="color:green">Sith Venator</span>]] [[File:Mega Blastoise.gif|20px]] ([[User talk:Sith Venator|<span style="color:blue">Dank Memes</span>]]) 00:54, 16 February 2017 (EST)
::Ah, doi. I was thinking it'd be somewhere in the campaign, such as a mention on Sangheilios. Thanks![[User:The Ragin Pagan|The Ragin Pagan]] ([[User talk:The Ragin Pagan|talk]]) 00:57, 16 February 2017 (EST)
::Ah, doi. I was thinking it'd be somewhere in the campaign, such as a mention on Sangheilios. Thanks![[User:The Ragin Pagan|The Ragin Pagan]] ([[User talk:The Ragin Pagan|talk]]) 00:57, 16 February 2017 (EST)
:::This exposes an interesting point though...should attributions be a little more specific where possible? In my own documenting of Halo (and I admit I could be more specific for my own uses), I would attribute something like H5 for Campaign, and H5MP for the multiplayer part. Still not crazy specific, but I've seen mentions like this before on Halopedia and I'm questioning where the mention was as it only lists the game but not whether it's campaign, multiplayer, Limited Edition materials, etc. I guess my stance is if it's worthy of mention (in a canon sense) it's worthy of proper attribution so it's not a needle-in-a-haystack to cross-verify in case of a dispute or malicious editing. -[[User:ScaleMaster117|ScaleMaster117]] ([[User talk:ScaleMaster117|talk]]) 14:44, 11 August 2017 (EDT)