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I just think they managed to fight the Elites because of the Forerunner technology. | I just think they managed to fight the Elites because of the Forerunner technology. | ||
uh... BTW, the prophets used the Forerunner Dreadnaught to battle elites. <b>[[User:Sgt.johnson|<font color="Black">A</font>]][[User talk:Sgt.johnson|<font color="Black">J</font> | uh... BTW, the prophets used the Forerunner Dreadnaught to battle elites. <b>[[User:Sgt.johnson|<font color="Black">A</font>]][[User talk:Sgt.johnson|<font color="Black">J</font>]]</b> 01:38, 7 November 2007 (UTC) | ||
The book Cryptum shows pre-historic prophet warriors. They looked, according to the book, muscular and handsome. This was what the prophets were known for. However, modern warrior prophets I would not know of.--[[User talk:Thijsbos|Thijsbos]] 09:35, 12 March 2011 (EST) | |||
==Gravity Belt== | ==Gravity Belt== | ||
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we might need a different page for 'prophet naming'. This is because we might right down what some of them mean. | we might need a different page for 'prophet naming'. This is because we might right down what some of them mean. | ||
' ''Pity is an emotion, usually resulting from an encounter with an unfortunate, injured, or pathetic person or creature. A person experiencing pity will often take mercy on the person/creature, giving them aid or money. Many people pity the homeless, orphans, the terminally ill, and victims of rape and torture.' '' | ' ''Pity is an emotion, usually resulting from an encounter with an unfortunate, injured, or pathetic person or creature. A person experiencing pity will often take mercy on the person/creature, giving them aid or money. Many people pity the homeless, orphans, the terminally ill, and victims of rape and torture.' '' | ||
Thats about pity. It might show us on why they are called those names. | Thats about pity. It might show us on why they are called those names. - Forerunner | ||
:I think everyone fluent in English knows what Pity, Disdain, Mercy, Regret, Truth, and Supposition mean. Anyway, I don't see any reason for their names. --<b>[[User:Dragonclaws|<font color="000000">Dragon<font color="FF0000">c</font>laws</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Dragonclaws|<font color="000000">talk</font>]])</sup></b> 02:07, 31 March 2007 (UTC) | :I think everyone fluent in English knows what Pity, Disdain, Mercy, Regret, Truth, and Supposition mean. Anyway, I don't see any reason for their names. --<b>[[User:Dragonclaws|<font color="000000">Dragon<font color="FF0000">c</font>laws</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Dragonclaws|<font color="000000">talk</font>]])</sup></b> 02:07, 31 March 2007 (UTC) | ||
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== Edit == | == Edit == | ||
I heavily edited the article, but i forgot to leave in the pictures of Prophets in. If someone could re-add them, i, and probably the rest of the | I heavily edited the article, but i forgot to leave in the pictures of Prophets in. If someone could re-add them, i, and probably the rest of the CoH]], would be grateful. [[User:Specops306|Kora 'Morhekee]] 08:45, 28 April 2007 (UTC) | ||
Put it back in. never mind. i keep doing that - asking someone to help, and then doing it myself. Yes, it annoys me too. [[User:Specops306|Kora 'Morhekee]] 03:19, 3 May 2007 (UTC) | Put it back in. never mind. i keep doing that - asking someone to help, and then doing it myself. Yes, it annoys me too. [[User:Specops306|Kora 'Morhekee]] 03:19, 3 May 2007 (UTC) | ||
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I think it says in the Beastarium that some Prophets had acheived bicentennary level [200 years] | I think it says in the Beastarium that some Prophets had acheived bicentennary level [200 years] | ||
:yep. <b>[[User:Sgt.johnson|<font color="Black">A</font>]][[User talk:Sgt.johnson|<font color="Black">J</font> | :yep. <b>[[User:Sgt.johnson|<font color="Black">A</font>]][[User talk:Sgt.johnson|<font color="Black">J</font>]]</b> 01:40, 7 November 2007 (UTC) | ||
== Endangered? == | == Endangered? == | ||
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According to scans of the Beastarium, the Prophets are apparently an endangered species, with about 1,000 left of their kind. Can anyone with an early copy confirm this? -- [[User:Hunter-113|Hunter-113]] 12:52, 21 September 2007 (UTC) | According to scans of the Beastarium, the Prophets are apparently an endangered species, with about 1,000 left of their kind. Can anyone with an early copy confirm this? -- [[User:Hunter-113|Hunter-113]] 12:52, 21 September 2007 (UTC) | ||
Only a thousand left - yep, that's about right. And they're wiped out by the Sangheili fleet, apparently, at Delta Halo - so much for the Holy Prophets. '''Honour Light Your Way - ''' | Only a thousand left - yep, that's about right. And they're wiped out by the Sangheili fleet, apparently, at Delta Halo - so much for the Holy Prophets. '''Honour Light Your Way - ''''''[[User:Specops306|<font color=purple>Kora ‘Morhek</font>]]''' ''[[User talk:Specops306|<font color=blue>The Battle-Net</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Specops306|<font color=purple>My Conquests.</font>]]'' 22:04, 1 October 2007 (UTC) | ||
I hope they don't become extinct. | I hope they don't become extinct. | ||
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What about the Prophets that stayed on the homeworld after their civil war? Shouldn't they still be alive? They would probably have primitive technology as they didn't tamper with forerunner tech. But they are still Prophets nonetheless. Just a thought. | What about the Prophets that stayed on the homeworld after their civil war? Shouldn't they still be alive? They would probably have primitive technology as they didn't tamper with forerunner tech. But they are still Prophets nonetheless. Just a thought. | ||
Their homeworld was destroyed, read the article, says somewhere in there. --[[User:Honor Guard Reborn|<span style="color:Blue">DarkbelowHGR</span>]] [[User talk:Honor Guard Reborn|<span style="color:green">CommbandD</span>]] 23:57, August 24, 2010 (UTC) | |||
== Prophets/ Humans == | == Prophets/ Humans == | ||
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Isn't blood colour related to the kinds of gasses creatures breath? So maybe they have an oxygen rich environment too. I think if the Prophets where related to humans/Forerunners they would be able to activate the rings themselves; but everytime they have needed a human. | Isn't blood colour related to the kinds of gasses creatures breath? So maybe they have an oxygen rich environment too. I think if the Prophets where related to humans/Forerunners they would be able to activate the rings themselves; but everytime they have needed a human. | ||
Yes, it is caused by gases. <b>[[User:Sgt.johnson|<font color="Black">A</font>]][[User talk:Sgt.johnson|<font color="Black">J</font> | Yes, it is caused by gases. <b>[[User:Sgt.johnson|<font color="Black">A</font>]][[User talk:Sgt.johnson|<font color="Black">J</font>]]</b> 01:37, 7 November 2007 (UTC) | ||
:No, its not. Blood color is caused by the content of the blood. Blood is normally colorless when it is in the veins, but when it comes in contact with air, then it changes color. Human blood is red because human blood contains hemoglobin, which contains iron. Most known living things have red blood because they use hemoglobin, but a few creatures use hemocyanin, which is copper based and makes blood blue. So, while Grunts, Elites, and Jackals appear to have copper based blood, Prophets and humans, like most other mammals, have red iron based blood. All this to say, the same color of blood doesnt mean we are genetically related. --<b>[[User:ED|<font color="black">E</font>]][[User talk:ED|<font color="black">D</font> | :No, its not. Blood color is caused by the content of the blood. Blood is normally colorless when it is in the veins, but when it comes in contact with air, then it changes color. Human blood is red because human blood contains hemoglobin, which contains iron. Most known living things have red blood because they use hemoglobin, but a few creatures use hemocyanin, which is copper based and makes blood blue. So, while Grunts, Elites, and Jackals appear to have copper based blood, Prophets and humans, like most other mammals, have red iron based blood. All this to say, the same color of blood doesnt mean we are genetically related. --<b>[[User:ED|<font color="black">E</font>]][[User talk:ED|<font color="black">D</font>]]</b> 01:50, 7 November 2007 (UTC) | ||
== Clean-up == | == Clean-up == | ||
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== Worms of treachery == | == Worms of treachery == | ||
San 'Shyuum (Latin Perfidia vermis[1], meaning "Worms of Treachery". that fits them quite well!--[[User:Strider 658369398|<span style="color:Red; font-weight:bold; font-family:Arial">Strider</span><span style="color:gray; font-weight:bold; font-family:Arial">6583</span><span style="color:blue; font-weight:bold; font-family:Arial">69398</span> | San 'Shyuum (Latin Perfidia vermis[1], meaning "Worms of Treachery". that fits them quite well!--[[User:Strider 658369398|<span style="color:Red; font-weight:bold; font-family:Arial">Strider</span><span style="color:gray; font-weight:bold; font-family:Arial">6583</span><span style="color:blue; font-weight:bold; font-family:Arial">69398</span>]] 19:38, September 13, 2009 (UTC) | ||
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If they do live in a low-g environment, they are able to grow taller.[[User talk:Ketsumaye|Ketsumaye]] 02:23, June 4, 2010 (UTC) | If they do live in a low-g environment, they are able to grow taller.[[User talk:Ketsumaye|Ketsumaye]] 02:23, June 4, 2010 (UTC) | ||
:They don't look it, but we've only compared them to the Elites and Brutes they surround themselves with, both races much taller, plus the double facts that a good amount of that height is their serpentine necks, and they hunch over. -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 21:20, 5 January 2012 (EST) | |||
== San'Shyuum or San 'Shyuum? == | |||
Is there a space between ''San'' and '' 'Shyuum''? The article and its title don't agree with one another. --'''[[UserWiki:Monitor_Chakas|<font color="blue">Monitor Chakas</font>]]'''<sup>('''[[User talk:Monitor Chakas|<font color="Grey">Talk</font>]]|[[Special:Contributions/Monitor Chakas|<font color="Grey">Contribs</font>]]''')</sup> 12:58, 12 July 2014 (EDT) | |||
:There's not supposed to be a space (I couldn't find a piece of media where there is one). I moved the pages to their current, space-less form a while ago, but the spelling "San 'Shyuum" is still all over the place.--[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 13:26, 12 July 2014 (EDT) | |||
::The last time I remember the space being added in "San'Shyuum" was in [[Stomping on the Heels of a Fuss|a short story]] from ''Halo: Evolutions''. Other than that, no space has been added to the name. Because the change was made relatively recently, it may be a while before you notice the "San 'Shyuum" spelling disappear. Similarly, "Kig-Yar" is occasionally rendered "Kig-yar" on older, outdated articles. - [[User:NightHammer|NightHammer]] ([[User talk:NightHammer|talk]]) 20:16, 12 July 2014 (EDT) | |||
:::Ok thanks guys, I'll keep an eye out for them. I'm working on the timeline at the moment so I wanted to make sure everything was correct. --'''[[UserWiki:Monitor_Chakas|<font color="blue">Monitor Chakas</font>]]'''<sup>('''[[User talk:Monitor Chakas|<font color="Grey">Talk</font>]]|[[Special:Contributions/Monitor Chakas|<font color="Grey">Contribs</font>]]''')</sup> 10:06, 13 July 2014 (EDT) | |||
==New Main Image== | |||
Suggesting a new main image for the Prophets. Any suggestions anybody?[[User:262VigilantGuardian|262VigilantGuardian]] ([[User talk:262VigilantGuardian|talk]]) 20:45, 14 November 2014 (EST) | |||
:How about one of the Prophet of Regret or the High Councilors? - [[User:NightHammer|NightHammer]] ([[User talk:NightHammer|talk]]) 20:48, 14 November 2014 (EST) | |||
::That one of Regret did come to me, that's a good one. But maybe a full shot of Truth, the highest-ranked Prophet? Think that makes sense or is a minor thing for this? And if we don't have one, we could use Regret's perhaps.[[User:262VigilantGuardian|262VigilantGuardian]] ([[User talk:262VigilantGuardian|talk]]) 20:56, 14 November 2014 (EST) | |||
:::Given that we usually tend to use full-body images/renders for species articles, I would go for Regret.[[User:Imrane-117|Imrane-117]] ([[User talk:Imrane-117|talk]]) 21:09, 14 November 2014 (EST) | |||
::::So I guess we're agreed that that's the most appropriate image to use for the present time?[[User:262VigilantGuardian|262VigilantGuardian]] ([[User talk:262VigilantGuardian|talk]]) 21:48, 14 November 2014 (EST) | |||
== Character renames == | |||
Given that the full titles of the Hierarchs would be the "High Prophet of Truth" or the "High Prophet of Regret", for example, perhaps we should rename the articles to such to reflect their full titles. Similarly, the Prophet of Stewardship would be renamed the "Minor Prophet of Stewardship". The titles of "High Prophet" and "Minor Prophet" exist to distinguish them from "normal" Prophets, so I just think they should be renamed to reflect that. --[[User:NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">'''NightHammer'''</span>]]''<sup>[[User talk:NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">(talk)</span>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">(contribs)</span>]]</sup>'' 13:03, 20 March 2017 (EDT) | |||
:They ''are'' more accurate, though I internally cringe at any change to make titles longer/more complex. We don't see the "High" or "Minor" parts being used very commonly, so one could argue this can be regarded as a case similar to most weapon/vehicle names (or, for that matter, character middle names) where only the more common name is used in the article title while the full one is listed in the introduction. --[[User:Jugus|Jugus]] ([[User talk:Jugus|talk]]) 14:58, 21 March 2017 (EDT) | |||
== Height == | |||
It would appear as though the height is wrong. Even if it's from an official source, it contradicts their height in-game, which is 9'10" in their throne: | |||
[https://halo.bungie.org/misc/sloftus_characterscale/index.html?char1=ProphetHierarch-H2&char2=ProphetMinor-H2 image link] | |||
[https://halo.bungie.org/misc/sloftus_characterscale/images/ProphetHierarch-H2sil.gif image link] | |||
[https://i.pinimg.com/originals/9a/13/54/9a13542ae84526e11d26c84ff2227d67.png image link] | |||
And they're about the same height as Lord Hood out of it, at least when slouching (I think their full height dethroned would be about what is presented in the article, however): | |||
[https://halo.bungie.org/misc/sloftus_characterscale/index.html?char1=LordHood-H2&char2=ProphetMinor-H2 image link] | |||
--[[User:Abbazorkzog|Abbazorkzog]] ([[User talk:Abbazorkzog|talk]]) 14:49, April 7, 2021 (EDT) | |||
:Game scale is generally unreliable, and we don't accept the Loftus scalecharts for this reason (as amazing work as they are). If a canon in-universe source specifies different from game models, we will generally always take canon over unreliable games stuff.[[User:BaconShelf|BaconShelf - The Inners Will Never See Them Coming]] ([[User talk:BaconShelf|talk]]) 14:53, April 7, 2021 (EDT) | |||
::I can understand that for gameplay, but I'm personally going to use a mixture of sources i.e. Halopedia and otherwise from here on. Thanks. | |||
:::--[[User:Abbazorkzog|Abbazorkzog]] ([[User talk:Abbazorkzog|talk]]) 13:52, April 8, 2021 (EDT) | |||
::::Generally you should. IMO, the best way to use sites like this is to use the page to find relevant sources, then go use those sources yourself.[[User:BaconShelf|BaconShelf - The Inners Will Never See Them Coming]] ([[User talk:BaconShelf|talk]]) | |||