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We know that most of the Covenant names that we use aren't actually "Covenant" names but names given by the UNSC. This goes for species, weapons, vehicles, ships, etc. For example, both "Type-32 Rapid Attack Vehicle" and "Ghost" are designations used by the UNSC. The first one is a formal designation (the number is the year when the designation was established) and the second one is usually a colloquial name used by troops. The same goes for ''CCS'' battlecruisers and so on (Catalog confirmed that ''Reverence'' is a Covenant classification and that Covenant classes don't necessarily match with UNSC designations). The recent article on the Plasma Pistol also points out that although the UNSC always calls this weapon "Type-25 directed energy pistol", there are several variants (one per game) so in the end the plasma pistol is not just "one" weapon, for argument's sake let's say it may be comparable to the UNSC "assault rifle". The plasma pistol is the plasma pistol, and the assault rifle is the assault rifle, but the one in Halo 1 is not the same as the one in Halo 3 or Halo: Reach for example. Although I doubt if we'll ever get names for the different "plasma pistols", as the Covenant may just consider them the same weapon. So I was wondering if we could have an article explaining that several names in the ''Halo'' universe are only UNSC designations. Something to explain what is what, how it works, for species, ships, weapons, whatever. I'm sure most people don't know that names like CCS or Type-something aren't the real Covenant names. It's pretty well known for species names, but for the rest I'm not quite sure. I'm basing my reasoning mainly on the Wikipedia article "[[:wikipedia:NATO reporting name|NATO reporting name]]". Although we should do it in our own way, of course. This possible article should be something like the "[[hull classification symbol]]" article. It's linked after every ship names (eg: [[UNSC Forward Unto Dawn]]), so people can actually understand the naming scheme. In our case, each Covenant article would start like this: <code>'''Type-25 Directed Energy Pistol''' <nowiki>([[UNSC designation]])</nowiki></code>. Or whatever name we'll have for the article. UNSC naming scheme, or something like that. The Prometheans would also have their little spot (The letter "Z" and so on). [[User:Imrane-117|Imrane-117]] ([[User talk:Imrane-117|talk]]) 21:21, 13 February 2015 (EST)
We know that most of the Covenant names that we use aren't actually "Covenant" names but names given by the UNSC. This goes for species, weapons, vehicles, ships, etc. For example, both "Type-32 Rapid Attack Vehicle" and "Ghost" are designations used by the UNSC. The first one is a formal designation (the number is the year when the designation was established) and the second one is usually a colloquial name used by troops. The same goes for ''CCS'' battlecruisers and so on (Catalog confirmed that ''Reverence'' is a Covenant classification and that Covenant classes don't necessarily match with UNSC designations). The recent article on the Plasma Pistol also points out that although the UNSC always calls this weapon "Type-25 directed energy pistol", there are several variants (one per game) so in the end the plasma pistol is not just "one" weapon, for argument's sake let's say it may be comparable to the UNSC "assault rifle". The plasma pistol is the plasma pistol, and the assault rifle is the assault rifle, but the one in Halo 1 is not the same as the one in Halo 3 or Halo: Reach for example. Although I doubt if we'll ever get names for the different "plasma pistols", as the Covenant may just consider them the same weapon. So I was wondering if we could have an article explaining that several names in the ''Halo'' universe are only UNSC designations. Something to explain what is what, how it works, for species, ships, weapons, whatever. I'm sure most people don't know that names like CCS or Type-something aren't the real Covenant names. It's pretty well known for species names, but for the rest I'm not quite sure. I'm basing my reasoning mainly on the Wikipedia article "[[:wikipedia:NATO reporting name|NATO reporting name]]". Although we should do it in our own way, of course. This possible article should be something like the "[[hull classification symbol]]" article. It's linked after every ship names (eg: [[UNSC Forward Unto Dawn]]), so people can actually understand the naming scheme. In our case, each Covenant article would start like this: <code>'''Type-25 Directed Energy Pistol''' <nowiki>([[UNSC designation]])</nowiki></code>. Or whatever name we'll have for the article. UNSC naming scheme, or something like that. The Prometheans would also have their little spot (The letter "Z" and so on). [[User:Imrane-117|Imrane-117]] ([[User talk:Imrane-117|talk]]) 21:21, 13 February 2015 (EST)


:GrimBrother One details the UNSC naming conventions [http://carnage.bungie.org/haloforum/halo.forum.pl?read=1202385 here]. I'd love to have an article on "UNSC reporting name," but until that phrase is explicitly used by someone from 343 or in canon I'd avoid calling it specifically that. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 17:54, 14 February 2015 (EST)
:GrimBrother One details the UNSC naming conventions [http://carnage.bungie.org/haloforum/halo.forum.pl?read=1202385 here]. I'd love to have an article on "UNSC reporting name," but until that phrase is explicitly used by someone from 343 or in canon I'd avoid calling it specifically that. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 17:54, 14 February 2015 (EST)


::We still don't have a specific name for the article, but the concept has been extensively detailed [https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/community/blog-posts/canon-fodder-have-s-moa here], in the last Canon Fodder. While there is no official name for such an article, I think it would be ok to use a descriptive name, like "Ship naming conventions" or something, assuming for now the article would only be for ships (and there would be [[Template:Articlename|this template]] in the beginning of the article, as often). [[User:Imrane-117|Imrane-117]] ([[User talk:Imrane-117|talk]]) 09:39, 21 February 2015 (EST)
::We still don't have a specific name for the article, but the concept has been extensively detailed [https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/community/blog-posts/canon-fodder-have-s-moa here], in the last Canon Fodder. While there is no official name for such an article, I think it would be ok to use a descriptive name, like "Ship naming conventions" or something, assuming for now the article would only be for ships (and there would be [[Template:Conjectural title|this template]] in the beginning of the article, as often). [[User:Imrane-117|Imrane-117]] ([[User talk:Imrane-117|talk]]) 09:39, 21 February 2015 (EST)


:::We could also detail the naming conventions in a dedicated section of the [[Covenant fleet]] article. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 21:19, 22 February 2015 (EST)
:::We could also detail the naming conventions in a dedicated section of the [[Covenant fleet]] article. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 21:19, 22 February 2015 (EST)
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:It's not a bad idea, though it adds yet another section to keep up to date as new content comes out. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 00:40, 27 May 2015 (EDT)
:It's not a bad idea, though it adds yet another section to keep up to date as new content comes out. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 00:40, 27 May 2015 (EDT)
::I agree with Jugus. And ideally, it would be something that should all ready be accessible in the "Biography" section. - [[User:NightHammer|NightHammer]] ([[User talk:NightHammer|talk]]) 14:55, 27 May 2015 (EDT)
::I agree with Jugus. And ideally, it would be something that should all ready be accessible in the "Biography" section. - [[User:NightHammer|NightHammer]] ([[User talk:NightHammer|talk]]) 14:55, 27 May 2015 (EDT)
== SS mission name ==
The link to "Mission 21: We Need to Talk" is rendered as "Mission 21: We need to Talk". Could someone fix this?--[[User:D9328|D9328]] ([[User talk:D9328|talk]]) 08:37, 9 March 2018 (EST)d9328
:Same with "Til Death Do Us Part" (should be "Till Death Do Us Part")--[[User:D9328|D9328]] ([[User talk:D9328|talk]]) 08:41, 9 March 2018 (EST)d9328
::Going to bump this. All of SS Operation C is done, and the redlink is the typo identified above. And 'We need to Talk' still needs to be changed to 'We Need to Talk'.--[[User:D9328|D9328]] ([[User talk:D9328|talk]]) 12:22, 18 February 2019 (EST)d9328
:::In a few weeks I am gonna sort out SA and SS article names cause the number things dont really help folks, so this will be sorted in the process.-[[User:CIA391|CIA391]] ([[User talk:CIA391|talk]]) 16:06, 18 February 2019 (EST)
== Possible Winter Contingency Vacation ==
In the [[Winter_Contingency#Glitches| first level of Reach]] there's a purported way to get out of the map borders via Jun's hijackable (via Plasma Pistol EMP) Falcon. Does this count as a "vacation" that's been overlooked, or is it something else? I haven't tried it myself, just going off of information from the article. The noted sub-section appears to go into great detail.-[[User:Spartan B004|Spartan B004]]
([[User talk:Spartan B004|talk]]) 20:31, 12 August 2023 (EST)