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Hello there Halopedia, and addressing you today is none other than Halo-343; you know, that guy. This proposal, as its lengthy title might suggest to an attentive human being, is regarding the largely unneeded usage of bracketed addendums on Halopedia. I made a [[Talk:Main Page#Usage of bracketed addendums in article titles|similar post]] regarding this several days ago, and in response to agreement from several users, I've decided to formalize my suggestion, which this explanatory introduction now introduces.
Hello there Halopedia, and addressing you today is none other than Halo-343; you know, that guy. This proposal, as its lengthy title might suggest to an attentive human being, is regarding the largely unneeded usage of bracketed addendums on Halopedia. I made a [[Talk:Main Page#Usage of bracketed addendums in article titles|similar post]] regarding this several days ago, and in response to agreement from several users, I've decided to formalize my suggestion, which this explanatory introduction now introduces.
 
On to the purpose of this proposal, I've recently begun to notice a large usage of illogical addendums in a sizable amount of article titles lately, particularly those with a level of the same name. To give examples of this; [[343 Guilty Spark]], [[Armory (Room)]], [[High Charity (Structure)]], [[Cairo Station (Platform)]], [[Gravemind (Form)]], [[Kizingo Boulevard (Location)]], [[Tsavo Highway|Tsavo Highway (Location)]], [[Arbiter|Arbiter (Title)]] and countless others. If several articles share the same name, the bracketed distinction should only follow the titles of those named after the primary subject. For example, there are two instances in the Halo series titled "343 Guilty Spark"; the monitor and the level. The level is named after the monitor, thus should be the only article using bracketed information in its title to distinguish it from the primary subject, with a small note at the top of the page to cover any confusion ("Were you looking for ____?"). In addition to this, real-world subjects such as levels should not hinder the titling of a primary in-canon subject. If there is more than two instances, Gravemind for instance, the same rule should apply, but with a disambiguation page made to organize the other secondarily named pages, again with a note linking to it ("For other uses of "Gravemind", see Gravemind (disambiguation)"). In addition to this, in conjunction with Dragonclaws' proposal regarding capitalization, in instances where bracketed addendums are required, such wording should be lower case, not capitalized. For example, "(level)" is correct, "(Level)" is not.
On to the purpose of this proposal, I've recently begun to notice a large usage of illogical addendums in a sizable amount of article titles lately, particularly those with a level of the same name. To give examples of this; [[343 Guilty Spark]], [[Armory (Room)]], [[High Charity (Structure)]], [[Cairo Station (Platform)]], [[Gravemind (Form)]], [[Kizingo Boulevard (Location)]], [[Tsavo Highway|Tsavo Highway (Location)]], [[Arbiter|Arbiter (Title)]] and countless others. If several articles share the same name, the bracketed distinction should only follow the titles of those named after the primary subject. For example, there are two instances in the Halo series titled "343 Guilty Spark"; the monitor and the level. The level is named after the monitor, thus should be the only article using bracketed information in its title to distinguish it from the primary subject, with a small note at the top of the page to cover any confusion ("Were you looking for ____?"). In addition to this, real-world subjects such as levels should not hinder the titling of a primary in-canon subject. If there is more than two instances, Gravemind for instance, the same rule should apply, but with a disambiguation page made to organize the other secondarily named pages, again with a note linking to it ("For other uses of "Gravemind", see Gravemind (disambiguation)"). In addition to this, in conjunction with Dragonclaws' proposal regarding capitalization, in instances where bracketed addendums are required, such wording should be lower case, not capitalized. For example, "(level)" is correct, "(Level)" is not.


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#{{Support}} - And I might add, "[[Covenant]]" should redirect to [[Covenant Empire]] since that's what people will be looking 90% of the time. [[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 16:44, July 1, 2010 (UTC)
#{{Support}} - And I might add, "[[Covenant]]" should redirect to [[Covenant Empire]] since that's what people will be looking 90% of the time. [[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 16:44, July 1, 2010 (UTC)
#{{Support}} - If there's only two possibilities, don't disambiguate them. Just have the monitor's page as "343 Guilty Spark" with a "Did you mean...?" linking to the level. I agree with Jugus, the most obvious one should be the one with the page.-- '''[[User:Forerunner|<font color="blue">Fore</font>]]''[[User talk:Forerunner|<font color="green">run</font>]]''[[Special:Contributions/Forerunner|<font color="red">ner</font>]]''' 17:14, July 1, 2010 (UTC)
#{{Support}} - If there's only two possibilities, don't disambiguate them. Just have the monitor's page as "343 Guilty Spark" with a "Did you mean...?" linking to the level. I agree with Jugus, the most obvious one should be the one with the page.-- '''[[User:Forerunner|<font color="blue">Fore</font>]]''[[User talk:Forerunner|<font color="green">run</font>]]''[[Special:Contributions/Forerunner|<font color="red">ner</font>]]''' 17:14, July 1, 2010 (UTC)
#{{Support}} - [[File:Major.png|20px]] [[User:Nicmavr|<span style="color:DarkGoldenrod; font-weight:bold; font-family:Arial">Nìcmávr</span>]] <sup><span style="color:DarkGoldenrod">(</span>[[User Talk:Nicmavr|<span style="color:DarkGoldenrod; font-weight:bold">Tálk</span>]]<span style="color:DarkGoldenrod">)</span></sup> 17:25, July 1, 2010 (UTC)
#{{Support}} - [[User:Nicmavr|<span style="color:DarkGoldenrod; font-weight:bold; font-family:Arial">Nìcmávr</span>]] <sup><span style="color:DarkGoldenrod">(</span>[[User Talk:Nicmavr|<span style="color:DarkGoldenrod; font-weight:bold">Tálk</span>]]<span style="color:DarkGoldenrod">)</span></sup> 17:25, July 1, 2010 (UTC)
#{{Support}} -  [[User:Ultra Force|<span style="color: gray; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 120%;">'''Ultra Force'''</span>]] 17:55, July 1, 2010 (UTC)
#{{Support}} -  [[User:Ultra Force|<span style="color: gray; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 120%;">'''Ultra Force'''</span>]] 17:55, July 1, 2010 (UTC)
#{{Support}} - Sounds reasonable.  [[User:Kougermasters|<span style="color: black; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 128%;">'''Kougermasters'''</span>]] [[User talk:Kougermasters|<font color="black"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Talk'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Kougermasters|<font color="black"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Contribs'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] [[Special:Editcount/Kougermasters|<font color="black"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Edits'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] 22:14, July 1, 2010 (UTC)
#{{Support}} - Sounds reasonable.  [[User:Kougermasters|<span style="color: black; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 128%;">'''Kougermasters'''</span>]] [[User talk:Kougermasters|<font color="black"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Talk'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Kougermasters|<font color="black"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Contribs'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] [[Special:Editcount/Kougermasters|<font color="black"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Edits'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] 22:14, July 1, 2010 (UTC)
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#{{Support}} - I agree completely. [[User:Spartansniper450/IRC Quotes|<span style="color:#000000">''Col.''</span>]] [[User:Spartansniper450|<span style="color:#00416A">Snipes</span>]][[User talk:Spartansniper450|<span style="color:gold">4</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Spartansniper450|<span style="color:silver">50</span>]] 15:12, July 3, 2010 (UTC)
#{{Support}} - I agree completely. [[User:Spartansniper450/IRC Quotes|<span style="color:#000000">''Col.''</span>]] [[User:Spartansniper450|<span style="color:#00416A">Snipes</span>]][[User talk:Spartansniper450|<span style="color:gold">4</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Spartansniper450|<span style="color:silver">50</span>]] 15:12, July 3, 2010 (UTC)
#{{Support}} - Absolutely yes.  [[User:Gunnery Sergeant Gonzalez|<span style="color:black"><b>GySgt. Gonzalez</b></span>]] [[User talk:Gunnery Sergeant Gonzalez|<span style="color:#666666"><small><b>-Comm Open-</b></small></span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Gunnery Sergeant Gonzalez|<span style="color:black"><small><b>-Body Count-</b></small></span>]] 01:18, July 5, 2010 (UTC)
#{{Support}} - Absolutely yes.  [[User:Gunnery Sergeant Gonzalez|<span style="color:black"><b>GySgt. Gonzalez</b></span>]] [[User talk:Gunnery Sergeant Gonzalez|<span style="color:#666666"><small><b>-Comm Open-</b></small></span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Gunnery Sergeant Gonzalez|<span style="color:black"><small><b>-Body Count-</b></small></span>]] 01:18, July 5, 2010 (UTC)
#{{Support}} - Fully agree. -[[User:DinoBenn|<span style="color:red">DinoBenn says "Fight to the End,</span>]] [[User talk:DinoBenn|<span style="color:blue">Never Give In"</span>]] [[Image:S4.jpg|18px]] 03:21, July 6, 2010 (UTC)
#{{Support}} - Fully agree. -[[User:DinoBenn|<span style="color:red">DinoBenn says "Fight to the End,</span>]] [[User talk:DinoBenn|<span style="color:blue">Never Give In"</span>]] 03:21, July 6, 2010 (UTC)
#{{Support}} - God he's good ;) - {{User:ShadowBroker44/sig}} 01:47, July 7, 2010 (UTC)
#{{Support}} - God he's good ;) - [[Special:Contributions/ShadowBroker44|ShadowBroker44]] 01:47, July 7, 2010 (UTC)
#{{Support}} - That makes sense - FatalSnipe117 02:59, July 8, 2010 (UTC)
#{{Support}} - That makes sense - FatalSnipe117 02:59, July 8, 2010 (UTC)


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A couple of things that could be added to the proposal: With the capitalization standard being changed, it should also be noted that the bracketed addendum should always be in lowercase, for the sake of both grammar and convenience in linking. That includes the ''(level)'' addendum which has been capitalized in the past. It's hard to think of a case where the word in the parentheses ''would be'' a proper noun except for some rare instances like [[Ghost (Marine)]]; although I'm not really sure if capitalizing the word "marine" is grammatically correct, since I've seen in being done both ways.
A couple of things that could be added to the proposal: With the capitalization standard being changed, it should also be noted that the bracketed addendum should always be in lowercase, for the sake of both grammar and convenience in linking. That includes the ''(level)'' addendum which has been capitalized in the past. It's hard to think of a case where the word in the parentheses ''would be'' a proper noun except for some rare instances like [[Ghost (Marine)]]; although I'm not really sure if capitalizing the word "marine" is grammatically correct, since I've seen in being done both ways.


Also, as stated by {{Username|Dragonclaws}} in a thread [[Talk:Main Page#(Level)|on Talk:Main Page]], the addendum ''(level)'' should only be used if there is another subject that shares the name of the level, such as [[Crow's Nest (Level)]], or when there's a level of the same name in another game, like [[Halo (Halo 3 Level)]]. When the level is the only subject with that name, the ''(level)'' addendum becomes pointless.--[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 18:11, July 1, 2010 (UTC)
Also, as stated by Dragonclaws in a thread [[Talk:Main Page#(Level)|on Talk:Main Page]], the addendum ''(level)'' should only be used if there is another subject that shares the name of the level, such as [[Crow's Nest (Level)]], or when there's a level of the same name in another game, like [[Halo (Halo 3 Level)]]. When the level is the only subject with that name, the ''(level)'' addendum becomes pointless.--[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 18:11, July 1, 2010 (UTC)


:Yes, good points. I've added them to the proposal. -  [[User:Halo-343|<span style="color: purple; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 128%;">'''Halo-343'''</span>]] [[User talk:Halo-343|<font color="red"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Talk'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Halo-343|<font color="orange"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Contribs'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] [[Special:Editcount/Halo-343|<font color="green"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Edits'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] 18:52, July 1, 2010 (UTC)
:Yes, good points. I've added them to the proposal. -  [[User:Halo-343|<span style="color: purple; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 128%;">'''Halo-343'''</span>]] [[User talk:Halo-343|<font color="red"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Talk'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Halo-343|<font color="orange"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Contribs'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] [[Special:Editcount/Halo-343|<font color="green"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Edits'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] 18:52, July 1, 2010 (UTC)