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Hey everyone! I'm seeing a lot of changes in the layout of this site from the main page to the site logo and it strikes me as odd that nobody has brought up our site banner. We've had it for two or three years so far and truth be told, I haven't liked it from the start. I mean no offense to the original creator of the banner, but the placement of the elements (planet, Halo+Substance, and the battlecruiser) seems all out of place and appears to be something done on Microsoft Paint than anything. More so, its contents seem very skewed to the Covenant and their perspective in the Bungie Trilogy whereas the banner for a wiki with such an expansive field of content as ours should have a relatively neutral or all-inclusive focus (to include Human, Covenant, Forerunner, etc.).  
Hey everyone! I'm seeing a lot of changes in the layout of this site from the main page to the site logo and it strikes me as odd that nobody has brought up our site banner. We've had it for two or three years so far and truth be told, I haven't liked it from the start. I mean no offense to the original creator of the banner, but the placement of the elements (planet, Halo+Substance, and the battlecruiser) seems all out of place and appears to be something done on Microsoft Paint than anything. More so, its contents seem very skewed to the Covenant and their perspective in the Bungie Trilogy whereas the banner for a wiki with such an expansive field of content as ours should have a relatively neutral or all-inclusive focus (to include Human, Covenant, Forerunner, etc.).  
 
Right now this forum isn't meant to vote on or even decide if we should choose a new banner for the wiki, rather, just to pool together our resources into seeing if people are interested in doing so. Saying that however, I do have some recommendations and guidelines if you're serious about having it being elected as the new banner:
Right now this forum isn't meant to vote on or even decide if we should choose a new banner for the wiki, rather, just to pool together our resources into seeing if people are interested in doing so. Saying that however, I do have some recommendations and guidelines if you're serious about having it being elected as the new banner:


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''Image code: <code>/images/2/2a/Halopedia_Banner_2-LC.jpg</code>''<br>
''Image code: <code>/images/2/2a/Halopedia_Banner_2-LC.jpg</code>''<br>
'''Additional —''' [[:File:Grizzlei banner screenshot.jpg|''Screenshot of banner in-action'']]
'''Additional —''' ''Screenshot of banner in-action''


Using the background from the ''Halo 4 Interactive Guide'' on Waypoint, I cropped out the Warthog section and the unshaded section from the right on the original panorama, and flipped it horizontally. On the "main" banner above, I very slightly lowered the brightness to reduce it being such an eyesore. :P
Using the background from the ''Halo 4 Interactive Guide'' on Waypoint, I cropped out the Warthog section and the unshaded section from the right on the original panorama, and flipped it horizontally. On the "main" banner above, I very slightly lowered the brightness to reduce it being such an eyesore. :P
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--[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 05:21, 1 November 2012 (EDT)
--[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 05:21, 1 November 2012 (EDT)
===Other===
===Other===
''These were featured in an [[Forum:Final decision on new wiki background|earlier poll]] on changing the site banner. Credit for the images goes to [[User:Subtank|Subtank]].''
''These were featured in an earlier poll on changing the site banner. Credit for the images goes to [[User:Subtank|Subtank]].''


[[File:Forge World banner 1.jpg|300px|thumb|left|''Forge World 1''|link=]]
[[File:Forge World banner 1.jpg|300px|thumb|left|''Forge World 1''|link=]]
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::No, rather the grass in the center of the picture. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 19:00, 31 October 2012 (EDT)
::No, rather the grass in the center of the picture. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 19:00, 31 October 2012 (EDT)


Your banner works rather well with the new site logo as well as from a visual standpoint. However, I think that instead of simply having a mostly neutral and random image, the site banner should be able to instantly encapsulate the ''Halo'' series. Yours has a Forerunner structure so that's one such element, but the rest is mostly cliff faces. I also don't like the current banner all that much; having a Halo there is a good choice if we're going for iconic elements (and I think we should) but aside that it has too much clutter. The [[Forum:Final decision on new wiki background|last time we voted]], I and many others proposed [http://www.halopedian.com/images/archive/a/a0/20110825154206!Headertest.jpg this one] - it certainly fills the criteria for iconic, having some of the most recognizable visual elements of the series. Though it probably wouldn't work as well with the current logo, I'm still in the favor of something similar; that is, scenery that evokes the first game's level ''[[Halo (Halo: Combat Evolved level)|Halo]]''. Maybe something from the ''[[Installation 04 (level)|Installation 04]]'' Firefight map, along the lines of [[:File:Inst04 02.jpg|this image]]? I might try and come up with something. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 16:26, 31 October 2012 (EDT)
Your banner works rather well with the new site logo as well as from a visual standpoint. However, I think that instead of simply having a mostly neutral and random image, the site banner should be able to instantly encapsulate the ''Halo'' series. Yours has a Forerunner structure so that's one such element, but the rest is mostly cliff faces. I also don't like the current banner all that much; having a Halo there is a good choice if we're going for iconic elements (and I think we should) but aside that it has too much clutter. The last time we voted, I and many others proposed [http://www.halopedian.com/images/archive/a/a0/20110825154206!Headertest.jpg this one] - it certainly fills the criteria for iconic, having some of the most recognizable visual elements of the series. Though it probably wouldn't work as well with the current logo, I'm still in the favor of something similar; that is, scenery that evokes the first game's level ''[[Halo (Halo: Combat Evolved level)|Halo]]''. Maybe something from the ''[[Installation 04 (map)|Installation 04]]'' Firefight map, along the lines of this image? I might try and come up with something. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 16:26, 31 October 2012 (EDT)
:On second thought, don't think I need to come up with anything - I've found a favorite among the ones from last time: [http://www.halopedian.com/images/archive/a/a0/20110716172307!Headertest.jpg this one]. It has a Halo to make it sufficiently relevant to the site's focus, a neutral enough coloration so it doesn't stick out too much, and it works very well with the Chief logo. Don't think we need anything more than that. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 16:32, 31 October 2012 (EDT)
:On second thought, don't think I need to come up with anything - I've found a favorite among the ones from last time: [http://www.halopedian.com/images/archive/a/a0/20110716172307!Headertest.jpg this one]. It has a Halo to make it sufficiently relevant to the site's focus, a neutral enough coloration so it doesn't stick out too much, and it works very well with the Chief logo. Don't think we need anything more than that. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 16:32, 31 October 2012 (EDT)
::The first one you listed with the Halo ring and the facility on Forge World looks neat, but the emphasis on the blue is a bit displeasing. The second one looks pretty boring and makes us look like an environmental conservation wiki. {{User:Grizzlei/Sig}}
::The first one you listed with the Halo ring and the facility on Forge World looks neat, but the emphasis on the blue is a bit displeasing. The second one looks pretty boring and makes us look like an environmental conservation wiki. {{User:Grizzlei/Sig}}
:::I agree that the first Forge World one is too blue and besides, it doesn't blend well with the lighting of the site logo. This is why I prefer the second one I mentioned - it's still blue-tinted, but not too blue and the Chief blends to it very naturally. As for it being boring, don't think it's any more boring than a random, nondescript landscape. Besides, I don't think the point of the banner is to draw attention or be particularly exciting; all it really needs, to me, is an immediately recognizable ''Halo'' universe element (what's better than a Halo ring?) and the way the scenery echoes ''Combat Evolved'''s unforgettable first journey on a Halo is a bonus. Also, a nature conservation wiki with a Halo ring in the background would be quite a thing to see.  --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 04:30, 1 November 2012 (EDT)
:::I agree that the first Forge World one is too blue and besides, it doesn't blend well with the lighting of the site logo. This is why I prefer the second one I mentioned - it's still blue-tinted, but not too blue and the Chief blends to it very naturally. As for it being boring, don't think it's any more boring than a random, nondescript landscape. Besides, I don't think the point of the banner is to draw attention or be particularly exciting; all it really needs, to me, is an immediately recognizable ''Halo'' universe element (what's better than a Halo ring?) and the way the scenery echoes ''Combat Evolved'''s unforgettable first journey on a Halo is a bonus. Also, a nature conservation wiki with a Halo ring in the background would be quite a thing to see.  --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 04:30, 1 November 2012 (EDT)
:::I kinda like the pale blue. It transitions into the white background quite nicely... :) — <span style="font-size:14px; font-family:Arial;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span>  08:05, 1 November 2012 (EDT)
:::I kinda like the pale blue. It transitions into the white background quite nicely... :) — <span style="font-size:14px; font-family:Arial;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span>  08:05, 1 November 2012 (EDT)
::I agree with Grizzlei I like the first one from Jugus too, but I also like your's too Grizzlei, so I'd be ok with either.[[File:Colonel Grade One.png|20px]][[User:Spartansniper450/IRC Quotes|<span style="color:#000000">''Col.''</span>]] [[User:Spartansniper450|<span style="color:#00416A">Snipes</span>]][[User talk:Spartansniper450|<span style="color:gold">4</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Spartansniper450|<span style="color:silver">50</span>]][[File:Colonel Grade One.png|20px]] 18:30, 31 October 2012 (EDT)
::I agree with Grizzlei I like the first one from Jugus too, but I also like your's too Grizzlei, so I'd be ok with either.[[User:Spartansniper450/IRC Quotes|<span style="color:#000000">''Col.''</span>]] [[User:Spartansniper450|<span style="color:#00416A">Snipes</span>]][[User talk:Spartansniper450|<span style="color:gold">4</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Spartansniper450|<span style="color:silver">50</span>]] 18:30, 31 October 2012 (EDT)


I like your submission Jugus! Relatively simple and the imagery is recognizable to even the newest of ''Haloverse'' fans. Only recommendation is maybe increasing the contrast in the background to bring out some of those colors, otherwise, it doesn't complement the Forerunner structure very well. {{User:Grizzlei/Sig}}
I like your submission Jugus! Relatively simple and the imagery is recognizable to even the newest of ''Haloverse'' fans. Only recommendation is maybe increasing the contrast in the background to bring out some of those colors, otherwise, it doesn't complement the Forerunner structure very well. {{User:Grizzlei/Sig}}
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:I don't.--'''''[[User:Killamint|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Arial;">Killamint</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Killamint|<font color="Red">Comm</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Killamint|<font color="Black">Files</font>]]''''']</small> 12:25, 4 November 2012 (EST)
:I don't.--'''''[[User:Killamint|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Arial;">Killamint</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Killamint|<font color="Red">Comm</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Killamint|<font color="Black">Files</font>]]''''']</small> 12:25, 4 November 2012 (EST)
::We've gotten some nice submissions so far, so I'm not opposed to opening up a community vote. Now to figure out which one to vote for...--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}} 15:33, 4 November 2012 (EST)
::We've gotten some nice submissions so far, so I'm not opposed to opening up a community vote. Now to figure out which one to vote for...--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}} 15:33, 4 November 2012 (EST)
==Voting==
===The Challenge (Increased Contrast Version)===
#Looks to be my favorite.--'''''[[User:Killamint|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Arial;">Killamint</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Killamint|<font color="Red">Comm</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Killamint|<font color="Black">Files</font>]]''''']</small> 11:24, 17 November 2012 (EST)
#Been using it for a while now and I've kinda grown to like it. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 15:10, 19 November 2012 (EST)
#It has that surrealistic feel to it. I love it. '''-{{User|Killjax}}'''
#Its amazing! I find it the look so cool. My favorite by far. '''-{{User|Master of Halo}}'''
#My favourite at the minute. I like them all! :D --<b>[[User:Tentacletornado|<font color="#2E8B57">''Tent''</font><font color="#3CB371">''acle''</font>]][[User talk:Tentacletornado|<font color="#DAA520">''Torn''</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Tentacletornado|<font color="#B8860B">''ado''</font>]]</b> 12:43, 5 December 2012 (EST)
#Ditto as '''-{{User|Master of Halo}}'''. '''-{{User|sethslayer10}}'''
===Forerunner + Sexy Cliffs===
#After looking through all the options and testing each one out, I cast my vote for Grizzlei's submission.--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}} 14:59, 19 November 2012 (EST)
#Yup! — {{User:Grizzlei/Sig}}
#I will vote for this banner, I like the scenery used in the shot and it kinda reminds me of the old Halo 3 banner. –  '''''Lt.'' [[User:Nohomers48|Nohomers48]] <small>([[User talk:Nohomers48|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Nohomers48|contribs]] • UserWiki:Nohomers48|wiki]])</small>''' 16:04, 21 November 2012 (EST)
#Definitely the best one here! sorry Jugus.--[[User talk:Weeping Angel|Weeping Angel]] 21:09, 2 December 2012 (EST)
#Love it. H4M