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The use of middle names, if only their middle initial if known, is a common sight when looking at article titles for Human characters. This issue has been beaten to death it seems like over the past couple of years, yet no consensus seems to ever come of it, and one with a simple outcome on either end of the spectrum. | The use of middle names, if only their middle initial if known, is a common sight when looking at article titles for Human characters. This issue has been beaten to death it seems like over the past couple of years, yet no consensus seems to ever come of it, and one with a simple outcome on either end of the spectrum. | ||
Personally, I see the emphasis on these middle names to be as overzealous as the naming of the various parts of the MJOLNIR armor systems. When I meet someone for the first time, I do not introduce myself as "Natalie E. Mikkelborg" or pretentiously as "Natalie Elizabeth Mikkelborg," and I suspect that many of you don't as well. The use of middle names in the modern era, at least in the United States, seems to be that of a formality, only used to honor the namesake of an older family member or friend. Presenting your middle name when signing an essay or adding your name on Facebook is just not commonplace. In the context of the ''Haloverse'', I guarantee you that nobody throughout Earth and her colonies speaks of the legend of "Catherine Elizabeth Halsey," "Preston Jeremiah Cole," "Hieronymus Michael Stanforth," or "James Gregory Cutter;" they simply refer to them by their given and family names. | Personally, I see the emphasis on these middle names to be as overzealous as the naming of the various parts of the MJOLNIR armor systems. When I meet someone for the first time, I do not introduce myself as "Natalie E. Mikkelborg" or pretentiously as "Natalie Elizabeth Mikkelborg," and I suspect that many of you don't as well. The use of middle names in the modern era, at least in the United States, seems to be that of a formality, only used to honor the namesake of an older family member or friend. Presenting your middle name when signing an essay or adding your name on Facebook is just not commonplace. In the context of the ''Haloverse'', I guarantee you that nobody throughout Earth and her colonies speaks of the legend of "Catherine Elizabeth Halsey," "Preston Jeremiah Cole," "Hieronymus Michael Stanforth," or "James Gregory Cutter;" they simply refer to them by their given and family names. | ||
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Sure. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 19:05, 28 September 2012 (EDT) | |||
So will the articles be renamed to a shortened name, or have a shortened name redirect to the article with the full name? Other than that, I am supportive of this.--''[[User:Spartacus|<span style="color:Green; font-weight:bold; font-family:Arial">Spartacus,</span>]]'' ''[[Halopedia:Administrators|<span style="color:DarkGoldenrod; font-weight:bold; font-family:Arial">Halopedia Administrator</span>]]'' <sup>'''[[User talk:Spartacus|<font color="Black">Talk</font>]]'''</sup> 16:58, 29 September 2012 (EDT) | |||
:The articles, if they fall into the permanent categories will be renamed to the shortened names. If no redirects exist for the full canon name, then they will be created. {{User:Grizzlei/Sig}} | |||
::Alright. I'm fine with that.--''[[User:Spartacus|<span style="color:Green; font-weight:bold; font-family:Arial">Spartacus,</span>]]'' ''[[Halopedia:Administrators|<span style="color:DarkGoldenrod; font-weight:bold; font-family:Arial">Halopedia Administrator</span>]]'' <sup>'''[[User talk:Spartacus|<font color="Black">Talk</font>]]'''</sup> 17:30, 30 September 2012 (EDT) | |||
I'm fine with this. Using full names in titles never made that much sense to me; the information can be conveyed just as well in the introductory paragraph and the infobox. As a side note, since you brought up our titling of MJOLNIR articles, I'd also prefer a simpler format for them - while the [[MJOLNIR Powered Assault Armor]] article would be kept unchanged, the titling of the myriad of variants could be changed to "MJOLNIR/variant" as opposed to our current "MJOLNIR Powered Assault Armor/variant".--[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 23:41, 30 September 2012 (EDT) | |||
:{{Like}}— <span style="font-size:16px; font-family:OrbitronMedium;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span> 23:50, 30 September 2012 (EDT) | |||
:Since I see no objections for this, does anyone mind if I go ahead and move the corresponding articles? Also, I'd hate to go off topic, but if we were to rename the armor articles we should simply use "MJOLNIR Commando," "MJOLNIR Warrior," "MJOLNIR Fallschirmjäger," etc. without the forward slash for simplicity's sake. {{User:Grizzlei/Sig}} | |||
::I would prefer with forward slash than without, as Jugus suggested, as they look more organised (even more so when we have a variant made for one particular Mark# armor). Plus, forward slash would also adds a link to the main article, MJOLNIR, automatically.— <span style="font-size:16px; font-family:OrbitronMedium;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span> 13:21, 1 October 2012 (EDT) | |||
:::I do suppose that is a good reason to keep them. {{User:Grizzlei/Sig}} | |||