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the arbiter isnt the supreme camander of the ascendant justice hes just a ship master before he becomes the arbiter.its in the books. | the arbiter isnt the supreme camander of the ascendant justice hes just a ship master before he becomes the arbiter.its in the books. | ||
:Actually, he IS the Supreme Commander. Its in the games. -- <b>[[Halopedia:Administrators|<font color=indigo>Administrator</font>]] [[User:Specops306|<font color=indigo>Specops306</font>]] - ''[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=blue>Qur'a 'Morhek</font>]]'' <sup>''[[ | :Actually, he IS the Supreme Commander. Its in the games. -- <b>[[Halopedia:Administrators|<font color=indigo>Administrator</font>]] [[User:Specops306|<font color=indigo>Specops306</font>]] - ''[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=blue>Qur'a 'Morhek</font>]]'' <sup>''[[halofanon:Operation: HOT GATES|<u><font color=purple>Honour Light Your Way!</font></u>]]''</sup></b> 01:08, 20 July 2009 (UTC) | ||
:And not to mention, at the end of the book you speak of, he's promoted Supreme Commander. | :And not to mention, at the end of the book you speak of, he's promoted Supreme Commander. | ||
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::But from reading it, I did not find any concrete evidence that it is actually the same character. Such can be inferred, but still, I did not find any concrete evidence that shows that they are the same character. [[User:user0|User0]]<sup>[[Special:Contributions/User0|(contribs)]][[User talk:User0|(talk)]]</sup> 07:04, 29 November 2008 (UTC) | ::But from reading it, I did not find any concrete evidence that it is actually the same character. Such can be inferred, but still, I did not find any concrete evidence that shows that they are the same character. [[User:user0|User0]]<sup>[[Special:Contributions/User0|(contribs)]][[User talk:User0|(talk)]]</sup> 07:04, 29 November 2008 (UTC) | ||
:::Have you finished the book? <span style="font-family: Palatino Linotype;"><b>[[User Talk:ONI recon 111|<font color="blue">1st</font>]] UserWiki:ONI recon 111|<font color="#red">Class</font>]] [[ | :::Have you finished the book? <span style="font-family: Palatino Linotype;"><b>[[User Talk:ONI recon 111|<font color="blue">1st</font>]] UserWiki:ONI recon 111|<font color="#red">Class</font>]] [[halofanon:Category:ONI recon 111|<font color="light blue">Cadet</font>]] [[User:ONI recon 111|<font color="green">ONI recon 111</font>]] | </b>File:1227612553 First3.jpg|30px]]</span> 07:39, 29 November 2008 (UTC) | ||
::::Yes. The problem is that I saw this page before I finished it, so I wasn't really looking for anything that proves it. It is very likely that I missed something big. The only thing I saw that might infer that it is the same character is the stuff about the fleet of Particular Justice. [[User:user0|User0]]<sup>[[Special:Contributions/User0|(contribs)]][[User talk:User0|(talk)]]</sup> 21:36, 29 November 2008 (UTC) | ::::Yes. The problem is that I saw this page before I finished it, so I wasn't really looking for anything that proves it. It is very likely that I missed something big. The only thing I saw that might infer that it is the same character is the stuff about the fleet of Particular Justice. [[User:user0|User0]]<sup>[[Special:Contributions/User0|(contribs)]][[User talk:User0|(talk)]]</sup> 21:36, 29 November 2008 (UTC) | ||
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::Really, he had to give up his name? Where in the games does it...oh wait, yeah that's right, the games are shit for canon. Yes, he's the current Arbiter, but what about the one in ''Halo Wars''? What's he going to be, Arbiter 2? Since the Sangheili gave away the military "ee" suffix on their lastnames, and the current Arbiter is a Sangheili....he's name is Thel 'Vadam. File:United Nations logo.png|35px]]UoH|<font color="silver"><b>General</b></font>]] [[User:CommanderTony|<b><font color="crimson">Tony</font></b>]], <b>[[Halopedia:Administrators|<font color=green>Administrator of Halopedia</font>]]</b><sup>[[User Talk:CommanderTony|<b><font color="black">Talk</font></b>]]</sup> 12/22/2008 | ::Really, he had to give up his name? Where in the games does it...oh wait, yeah that's right, the games are shit for canon. Yes, he's the current Arbiter, but what about the one in ''Halo Wars''? What's he going to be, Arbiter 2? Since the Sangheili gave away the military "ee" suffix on their lastnames, and the current Arbiter is a Sangheili....he's name is Thel 'Vadam. File:United Nations logo.png|35px]]UoH|<font color="silver"><b>General</b></font>]] [[User:CommanderTony|<b><font color="crimson">Tony</font></b>]], <b>[[Halopedia:Administrators|<font color=green>Administrator of Halopedia</font>]]</b><sup>[[User Talk:CommanderTony|<b><font color="black">Talk</font></b>]]</sup> 12/22/2008 | ||
:Arbiter is a rank, not a name, so we wouldn't rename it to that, so we use his previous name. <span style="font-family: Palatino Linotype;"><b>[[User Talk:ONI recon 111|<font color="blue">1st</font>]] UserWiki:ONI recon 111|<font color="#red">Class</font>]] [[ | :Arbiter is a rank, not a name, so we wouldn't rename it to that, so we use his previous name. <span style="font-family: Palatino Linotype;"><b>[[User Talk:ONI recon 111|<font color="blue">1st</font>]] UserWiki:ONI recon 111|<font color="#red">Class</font>]] [[halofanon:Category:ONI recon 111|<font color="light blue">Cadet</font>]] [[User:ONI recon 111|<font color="green">ONI recon 111</font>]] | </b>File:1227612553 First3.jpg|30px]]</span> 21:01, 21 December 2008 (UTC) | ||
It's Vadam but the -ee suffix represents active military service and since the Great Schism elites have been dropping the -ee suffix to symbolize their separation from the Covenant. [[User:The Real Arbiter]] | It's Vadam but the -ee suffix represents active military service and since the Great Schism elites have been dropping the -ee suffix to symbolize their separation from the Covenant. [[User:The Real Arbiter]] | ||
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== Finally some proof! == | == Finally some proof! == | ||
{{Quote|There are those who said this day would never come. What are they to say now?|Specops306}} | {{Quote|There are those who said this day would never come. What are they to say now?|Specops306}} | ||
[http://www.halo3infinity.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=4467 An interview] with the author by a French Halo community, where the Arbiter is referred to numerous times as Thel Vadam, and Buckell fully accepts that, and even admits it was fun to characterize the Arbiter. So finally, some indisputable proof for the naysayers! -- <b>[[Halopedia:Administrators|<font color=blue>Administrator</font>]] [[User:Specops306|<font color=blue>Specops306</font>]] - ''[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=purple>Qur'a 'Morhek</font>]]'' <sup>''[[ | [http://www.halo3infinity.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=4467 An interview] with the author by a French Halo community, where the Arbiter is referred to numerous times as Thel Vadam, and Buckell fully accepts that, and even admits it was fun to characterize the Arbiter. So finally, some indisputable proof for the naysayers! -- <b>[[Halopedia:Administrators|<font color=blue>Administrator</font>]] [[User:Specops306|<font color=blue>Specops306</font>]] - ''[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=purple>Qur'a 'Morhek</font>]]'' <sup>''[[halofanon:Operation: HOT GATES|<u><font color=blue>Honour Light Your Way!</font></u>]]''</sup></b> 20:31, 22 April 2009 (UTC) | ||
:<nowiki>*</nowiki>Cues the happy end theme to ''Return of the Jedi''.<nowiki>*</nowiki> [[User:Grizzlei|CommanderTony]] | :<nowiki>*</nowiki>Cues the happy end theme to ''Return of the Jedi''.<nowiki>*</nowiki> [[User:Grizzlei|CommanderTony]] | ||
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Umm, their height is seven foot cause they crouch, when Thel mocks the enemy he is taller then John, Combat height is 7'2, height for real, 8 something.--[[User talk:Hunter Zealot|Lekgolo]] 18:59, December 6, 2009 (UTC) | Umm, their height is seven foot cause they crouch, when Thel mocks the enemy he is taller then John, Combat height is 7'2, height for real, 8 something.--[[User talk:Hunter Zealot|Lekgolo]] 18:59, December 6, 2009 (UTC) | ||
:Their avg height has been retconned to 7'4" per Halo Encyclopedia. Thel is 7'10" standing straight up, which would account for him being taller then MC (whom is 7' in his armor). [[User talk:Zeno 'Ribal|Zeno 'Ribal]] 19:44, December 6, 2009 (UTC) | :Their avg height has been retconned to 7'4" per Halo Encyclopedia: The Definitive Guide to the Halo Universe. Thel is 7'10" standing straight up, which would account for him being taller then MC (whom is 7' in his armor). [[User talk:Zeno 'Ribal|Zeno 'Ribal]] 19:44, December 6, 2009 (UTC) | ||
Huh, thanks.--[[User talk:Hunter Zealot|Lekgolo]] 23:51, December 13, 2009 (UTC) | Huh, thanks.--[[User talk:Hunter Zealot|Lekgolo]] 23:51, December 13, 2009 (UTC) | ||
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::::::::There are too many things against the speculation even besides the Spartan duel mixup. For one, the Major was said to have lost a batallion when Thel 'Vadum clearly occupied a naval position. Also, the long, detailed history of Thel spelled out in the Cole Protocol makes no reference at all about any shame, loss of honor, or scandals like the ship commander in The Package kept referencing. He made it sound like the Major was a coward and a slimeball that didn't deserve to live because of the dishonor he had brought upon himself. In all actuality, whatever he had done, Thel's reputation would have been marred by this beyond consideration for Kaidon in TCP. But that was never an issue. Another question remains about how the major even survived? Didn't the ship captain in the Package detach the lower half of the ship with intentions of leaving him behind? Yet somehow he was sucked up in to the main ship anyways. Each of the Thels seem to have completely different personalities, backgrounds, and futures. And then there's the whole thing about him facing a Spartan. | ::::::::There are too many things against the speculation even besides the Spartan duel mixup. For one, the Major was said to have lost a batallion when Thel 'Vadum clearly occupied a naval position. Also, the long, detailed history of Thel spelled out in the Cole Protocol makes no reference at all about any shame, loss of honor, or scandals like the ship commander in The Package kept referencing. He made it sound like the Major was a coward and a slimeball that didn't deserve to live because of the dishonor he had brought upon himself. In all actuality, whatever he had done, Thel's reputation would have been marred by this beyond consideration for Kaidon in TCP. But that was never an issue. Another question remains about how the major even survived? Didn't the ship captain in the Package detach the lower half of the ship with intentions of leaving him behind? Yet somehow he was sucked up in to the main ship anyways. Each of the Thels seem to have completely different personalities, backgrounds, and futures. And then there's the whole thing about him facing a Spartan. | ||
::::::::So yes, I feel like we should jump at any opportunity we have to disassociate the characters in order to preserve a semblance of continuity. Not because I blame 343 or Legends for screwing up canon; I can live with and accept that they are the deciders of canon; not us. But when a loophole like this presents itself and it is a semi-unconfirmed situation that is close to going both ways, the common-sense decision must be made. Even without any of the supporting details in the second paragraph, I wish I could reiterate more that the first point I made is enough to split the characters according to our canon policy.--[[User talk:Nerfherder1428|Nerfherder1428]] 20:27, April 24, 2010 (UTC) | ::::::::So yes, I feel like we should jump at any opportunity we have to disassociate the characters in order to preserve a semblance of continuity. Not because I blame 343 or Legends for screwing up canon; I can live with and accept that they are the deciders of canon; not us. But when a loophole like this presents itself and it is a semi-unconfirmed situation that is close to going both ways, the common-sense decision must be made. Even without any of the supporting details in the second paragraph, I wish I could reiterate more that the first point I made is enough to split the characters according to our canon policy.--[[User talk:Nerfherder1428|Nerfherder1428]] 20:27, April 24, 2010 (UTC) | ||
{{Quote|If it's true that the subtitles aren't clear or definite and that the only absolute evidence we have connecting the Thels is from the Official Xbox magazine|Nerfherder1428}} | {{Quote|If it's true that the subtitles aren't clear or definite and that the only absolute evidence we have connecting the Thels is from the Official Xbox magazine|Nerfherder1428}} | ||
:::::::::Well, we would need to confirm that by contacting Frankie or 343 Industries. Considering the current situation and as pointed out Dewback rancher and Tuckerscreator, the subtitles are being very clear as to who the Major is. | :::::::::Well, we would need to confirm that by contacting Frankie or 343 Industries. Considering the current situation and as pointed out Dewback rancher and Tuckerscreator, the subtitles are being very clear as to who the Major is. | ||
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::::::::::I think you've misunderstood me Subtank. I wasn't referring to the UNSC Cruiser condradiction. That's irrelevent. If you read what I wrote again, I was actually referring to the contradiction between Thel not having fought a Spartan before TCP. I also did not dispute the legitimacy of the magazine as a source. I merely stated that The Cole Protocol, having said that Thel had never seen a Spartan before, would rank higher up in the canon ladder than advertising (the Xbox magazine), and therefore be the far superior canon. Following that logic, we have evidence that Thel Vadum is NOT in the package. If the magazine is the only absolute source, one cannot claim retcon on the superior literature canon (about the "Thel never fought a Spartan before TCP" issue). Having cleared that up, please reread my above statement to fully understand what I was trying to say.--[[User talk:Nerfherder1428|Nerfherder1428]] 00:51, April 25, 2010 (UTC) | ::::::::::I think you've misunderstood me Subtank. I wasn't referring to the UNSC Cruiser condradiction. That's irrelevent. If you read what I wrote again, I was actually referring to the contradiction between Thel not having fought a Spartan before TCP. I also did not dispute the legitimacy of the magazine as a source. I merely stated that The Cole Protocol, having said that Thel had never seen a Spartan before, would rank higher up in the canon ladder than advertising (the Xbox magazine), and therefore be the far superior canon. Following that logic, we have evidence that Thel Vadum is NOT in the package. If the magazine is the only absolute source, one cannot claim retcon on the superior literature canon (about the "Thel never fought a Spartan before TCP" issue). Having cleared that up, please reread my above statement to fully understand what I was trying to say.--[[User talk:Nerfherder1428|Nerfherder1428]] 00:51, April 25, 2010 (UTC) | ||
{{Quote|Regarding point 3; Retcons are fairly common in the media nowadays and it could be said that 343 Industries changed Thel's first experience of fighting a Spartan.|Subtank}} | {{Quote|Regarding point 3; Retcons are fairly common in the media nowadays and it could be said that 343 Industries changed Thel's first experience of fighting a Spartan.|Subtank}} | ||
:::::::::::She already explained that contradiction about Thel's first fight with a Spartan and how it has been retconned by 343i. | :::::::::::She already explained that contradiction about Thel's first fight with a Spartan and how it has been retconned by 343i. | ||
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:::::::('''NOTE''': ''This is just about showing what Subtank said a bit wrong and I will put them in bold.'') | :::::::('''NOTE''': ''This is just about showing what Subtank said a bit wrong and I will put them in bold.'') | ||
:::::::{{Quote|When it's '''May''' and '''majority supported''', then '''you can''' move the information.|[[User:Subtank|Subtank]]}} | :::::::{{Quote|When it's '''May''' and '''majority supported''', then '''you can''' move the information.|[[User:Subtank|Subtank]]}} | ||
:::::::(''May'') You said May right? (''Majority supported'') Really? I thought [[Halopedia:What Halopedia is|What Halopedia is not]] said that [[Halopedia]] [[Halopedia:What Halopedia is#Halopedia is not a democracy|is not a democracy]]? <sup>(Think before you say.)</sup> (''You can'') What did you mean I can? (Because it said ''you can'' and she was talking to me and this is me so I should say '''''I'''''.) If you say that I want to know why you said it was not authorised because if it is not then it shouldn't be ''you can move the information.'' but it should be: ''an [[Halopedia:Administrators|Administrator]] can move the information.''. --> | :::::::(''May'') You said May right? (''Majority supported'') Really? I thought [[Halopedia:What Halopedia is|What Halopedia is not]] said that [[Halopedia]] [[Halopedia:What Halopedia is#Halopedia is not a democracy|is not a democracy]]? <sup>(Think before you say.)</sup> (''You can'') What did you mean I can? (Because it said ''you can'' and she was talking to me and this is me so I should say '''''I'''''.) If you say that I want to know why you said it was not authorised because if it is not then it shouldn't be ''you can move the information.'' but it should be: ''an [[Halopedia:Administrators|Administrator]] can move the information.''. --> '''[[User:Cally99117|<span style="color:red">My Page</span>]] [[User talk:Cally99117|<span style="color:brown">Talk Page</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Cally99117|<span style="color:blue">Contributions Page</span>]] [[Special:Editcount/Cally99117|<span style="color:green">All Edits Page</span>]] [[Special:EmailUser/Cally99117|<span style="color:black">Email Page</span>]] <small>(UserWiki:Cally99117|<span style="color:yellow">Wiki Page</span>]])</small> <sup>([[Unggoy|<span style="color:grey">Favourite Page</span>]])</sup> <sup>([[User:Cally99117/Userboxes|<span style="color:Lime">Opinion Page</span>]])</sup>''' 13:55, May 30, 2010 (UTC) | ||
::::::::That is the general rule of thumb when proposing a merge (Just like "Ignore all rules" rule of thumb). However, this general rule will most likely be avoided when it comes to critical matters such as the one above. ;) - <font face="Century Gothic">[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></font> 15:41, May 30, 2010 (UTC) | ::::::::That is the general rule of thumb when proposing a merge (Just like "Ignore all rules" rule of thumb). However, this general rule will most likely be avoided when it comes to critical matters such as the one above. ;) - <font face="Century Gothic">[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></font> 15:41, May 30, 2010 (UTC) | ||
:::::::::Like I said ''"Think before you say"''. And you changed it. Why is it that you said majority of supporters above then you say majority of ''evidence'' below so when you said that on May I moved the information '''before''' you two voted which changed it as soon as I was about to move the information and yo said it was not authorised but you said ''"'''you''' can"'' which is making me wonder why you said it was not authorised when you said before ''"you can"'' which made me think I could do it so say you will never say one thing but have the future comment oppose it. --> | :::::::::Like I said ''"Think before you say"''. And you changed it. Why is it that you said majority of supporters above then you say majority of ''evidence'' below so when you said that on May I moved the information '''before''' you two voted which changed it as soon as I was about to move the information and yo said it was not authorised but you said ''"'''you''' can"'' which is making me wonder why you said it was not authorised when you said before ''"you can"'' which made me think I could do it so say you will never say one thing but have the future comment oppose it. --> '''[[User:Cally99117|<span style="color:red">Userpage</span>]] [[User talk:Cally99117|<span style="color:brown">User talk</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Cally99117|<span style="color:blue">Contributions</span>]] [[Special:Editcount/Cally99117|<span style="color:green">Editcount</span>]] [[Special:EmailUser/Cally99117|<span style="color:black">Email</span>]] <small>(UserWiki:Cally99117|<span style="color:yellow">UserWiki</span>]])</small> <sup>([[Unggoy|<span style="color:grey">Favourite</span>]])</sup> <sup>([[User:Cally99117/Userboxes|<span style="color:Lime">Userboxes</span>]])</sup>''' 09:51, May 31, 2010 (UTC) | ||
::::::::::'''''Think before you say'''''. Was it me that said the move was not authorised? | ::::::::::'''''Think before you say'''''. Was it me that said the move was not authorised? | ||
::::::::::General rules, like the "Majority supports ensures Article can be moved" approach, are largely unwritten and are not always successfully enforceable. They are treated something similar to conventions and mostly unsuccessfully enforceable.- <font face="Century Gothic">[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></font> 12:41, May 31, 2010 (UTC) | ::::::::::General rules, like the "Majority supports ensures Article can be moved" approach, are largely unwritten and are not always successfully enforceable. They are treated something similar to conventions and mostly unsuccessfully enforceable.- <font face="Century Gothic">[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></font> 12:41, May 31, 2010 (UTC) | ||
:::::::::::If you See the log you will know that you said it was not authorised (even though [[User:Halo-343|Halo-343]] said it first but you when you deleted the page you said pretty much the same thing as ''Halo-343''). | :::::::::::If you See the log you will know that you said it was not authorised (even though [[User:Halo-343|Halo-343]] said it first but you when you deleted the page you said pretty much the same thing as ''Halo-343''). | ||
:::::::::::Are you trying to say that in the end the rule could not have been enforced? --> | :::::::::::Are you trying to say that in the end the rule could not have been enforced? --> '''[[User:Cally99117|<span style="color:red">Userpage</span>]] [[User talk:Cally99117|<span style="color:brown">User talk</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Cally99117|<span style="color:blue">Contributions</span>]] [[Special:Editcount/Cally99117|<span style="color:green">Editcount</span>]] [[Special:EmailUser/Cally99117|<span style="color:black">Email</span>]] <small>(UserWiki:Cally99117|<span style="color:yellow">UserWiki</span>]])</small> <sup>([[Unggoy|<span style="color:grey">Favourite</span>]])</sup> <sup>([[User:Cally99117/Userboxes|<span style="color:Lime">Userboxes</span>]])</sup>''' 12:57, May 31, 2010 (UTC) | ||
::::::::::::They could be enforced (depending on the situation/circumstances), but not always enforced. [[Wikipedia:Convention_(norm)#Government|They]], for the most part, are largely ignored and unenforced. Anyway, we're deviating from the actual proposal and not contributing anything to the proposal, hence it would be better to bury this discussion. If you want to continue this discussion, please do so via user talk pages.- <font face="Century Gothic">[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></font> 13:55, May 31, 2010 (UTC) | ::::::::::::They could be enforced (depending on the situation/circumstances), but not always enforced. [[Wikipedia:Convention_(norm)#Government|They]], for the most part, are largely ignored and unenforced. Anyway, we're deviating from the actual proposal and not contributing anything to the proposal, hence it would be better to bury this discussion. If you want to continue this discussion, please do so via user talk pages.- <font face="Century Gothic">[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></font> 13:55, May 31, 2010 (UTC) | ||
*{{Support}}I agree that in The Package, the Elite we see is Thel, but the Arbiter in The Duel is not as it says in the gallery. I'm for sure because I looked a casting of Halo Legends, Thel is listed in The Package but not in The Duel.[[User talk:Ooduke|Ooduke]] 21:32, July 15, 2010 (UTC) | *{{Support}}I agree that in The Package, the Elite we see is Thel, but the Arbiter in The Duel is not as it says in the gallery. I'm for sure because I looked a casting of Halo Legends, Thel is listed in The Package but not in The Duel.[[User talk:Ooduke|Ooduke]] 21:32, July 15, 2010 (UTC) | ||
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:That's his species' average height. The Human male average hight is like 5'11", but loads of guys are 6'1".-- '''[[User:Forerunner|<font color="blue">Fore</font>]]''[[User talk:Forerunner|<font color="green">run</font>]]''[[Special:Contributions/Forerunner|<font color="red">ner</font>]]''' 13:31, May 31, 2010 (UTC) | :That's his species' average height. The Human male average hight is like 5'11", but loads of guys are 6'1".-- '''[[User:Forerunner|<font color="blue">Fore</font>]]''[[User talk:Forerunner|<font color="green">run</font>]]''[[Special:Contributions/Forerunner|<font color="red">ner</font>]]''' 13:31, May 31, 2010 (UTC) | ||
::But in the [[Halo Encyclopedia]] on page 130 it says he is 7'10" so we have a source that he is that height. --> | ::But in the [[Halo Encyclopedia (2009 edition)]] on page 130 it says he is 7'10" so we have a source that he is that height. --> '''[[User:Cally99117|<span style="color:red">Userpage</span>]] [[User talk:Cally99117|<span style="color:brown">User talk</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Cally99117|<span style="color:blue">Contributions</span>]] [[Special:Editcount/Cally99117|<span style="color:green">Editcount</span>]] [[Special:EmailUser/Cally99117|<span style="color:black">Email</span>]] <small>(UserWiki:Cally99117|<span style="color:yellow">UserWiki</span>]])</small> <sup>([[Unggoy|<span style="color:grey">Favourite</span>]])</sup> <sup>([[User:Cally99117/Userboxes|<span style="color:Lime">Userboxes</span>]])</sup>''' 13:44, May 31, 2010 (UTC) | ||
==The Arbiter in Halo Legends: The Duel== | ==The Arbiter in Halo Legends: The Duel== | ||