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:Couldn't agree with you more. And kind of amusing - "''tormented souls popping up from walls''". The whacky "composers abyss" is just out of place in the Halo universe and makes it seem as though I'm reading a Harry Potter comic. You already know my stance on these science-fantasy elements that 343i implemented since Halo 4. Anyway, I definitely agree that the latest entry in this comic series was a major let down especially compared to the previous issues. Its almost as though everything was rushed and there was little emphasis placed on anything really. Like I said in "subtracting canon" (I know everyone disagrees with the title but it came from lack of better wording, plus I wanted an interesting forum title) the reunion between John & blue team was insignificant, the slaughter of black team was unnecessary & uneplained, and then there's the didact in his great cartoony glory. Basically, when it came down to this issue, my main problem with it was execution and irrational decision making. Now some people may say that "developers may not want to revisit certain characters". If that's the case why bring them back in the first place only to kill them off rendering them nothing more than a skid mark? Leave it alone, leave them where they lay, leave well enough alone. Bringing them back only to immediately kill them off seems more like a slap in the face to most fans than if they just left them a mystery (and you don't want to disappoint the fans since they account for majority of revenues by the way). Just because 343i has the power to do something doesn't mean they should do it. Yes, you're not going to please the fans everytime but at least if they took the time and safest approach to doing things than at least you can lesson the damage. And some may say "what 343i does counts regardless of what the fans prefer". But again, just because they can do it doesn't mean they should. There is a such thing as reviewers, opinions, forums, etc...If 343i properly executed this story w/ proper explanations for things, less rushed plot lines, and better artwork, than there'd be a lesser chance of displeasing fans. And like Jugus said, if you can't do it in a comic, than reserve it for a book, game, or mini-movie like "Nightfall", rahter than trying to stuff and shorten things in a tiny 20 or so page comic.--'''''[[User:Killamin7|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Arial;">Killamin7</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Killamin7|<font color="Red">Comm</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Killamin7|<font color="Black">Files</font>]]''''']</small> 09:38, 13 August 2014 (EDT) | :Couldn't agree with you more. And kind of amusing - "''tormented souls popping up from walls''". The whacky "composers abyss" is just out of place in the Halo universe and makes it seem as though I'm reading a Harry Potter comic. You already know my stance on these science-fantasy elements that 343i implemented since Halo 4. Anyway, I definitely agree that the latest entry in this comic series was a major let down especially compared to the previous issues. Its almost as though everything was rushed and there was little emphasis placed on anything really. Like I said in "subtracting canon" (I know everyone disagrees with the title but it came from lack of better wording, plus I wanted an interesting forum title) the reunion between John & blue team was insignificant, the slaughter of black team was unnecessary & uneplained, and then there's the didact in his great cartoony glory. Basically, when it came down to this issue, my main problem with it was execution and irrational decision making. Now some people may say that "developers may not want to revisit certain characters". If that's the case why bring them back in the first place only to kill them off rendering them nothing more than a skid mark? Leave it alone, leave them where they lay, leave well enough alone. Bringing them back only to immediately kill them off seems more like a slap in the face to most fans than if they just left them a mystery (and you don't want to disappoint the fans since they account for majority of revenues by the way). Just because 343i has the power to do something doesn't mean they should do it. Yes, you're not going to please the fans everytime but at least if they took the time and safest approach to doing things than at least you can lesson the damage. And some may say "what 343i does counts regardless of what the fans prefer". But again, just because they can do it doesn't mean they should. There is a such thing as reviewers, opinions, forums, etc...If 343i properly executed this story w/ proper explanations for things, less rushed plot lines, and better artwork, than there'd be a lesser chance of displeasing fans. And like Jugus said, if you can't do it in a comic, than reserve it for a book, game, or mini-movie like "Nightfall", rahter than trying to stuff and shorten things in a tiny 20 or so page comic.--'''''[[User:Killamin7|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Arial;">Killamin7</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Killamin7|<font color="Red">Comm</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Killamin7|<font color="Black">Files</font>]]''''']</small> 09:38, 13 August 2014 (EDT) | ||
:I agree. What annoys me about the art style is that it can go | :I agree. What annoys me about the art style is that it can go from pretty decent, then all of a sudden, it becomes horrid. I wonder if the artist knows how to draw humans, or what the alien species actually look like sometimes. I feel like the poor pacing of these comics has to do with the shortness of each issue. There isn't a lot of room to explore the story or add emotion unfortunately. [http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Star_Wars:_Darth_Maul%E2%80%94Son_of_Dathomir Darth Maul's ''Son of Dathomir''] comic series (also created by Dark Horse) has forty pages per comic and a great art style. This gives each issue enough time to explore entire battles. I realize that ''Star Wars'' is more well-known than ''Halo'', but still I would expect Mircosoft to put some money into ''Escalation'' to make it a better comic series. Although the series has made several mistakes (mostly due to art style) and has not accurately portrayed some of the characters, I still think it's one of the better comic series we have seen so far and explores interesting parts of the ''Halo'' universe, such as the Ealen peace treaties or New Phoenix's reopening. And I wouldn't mind if it continued beyond November. | ||
:However, I think my biggest problem with this series as a whole so far is how it ends stories. While I know that this is partially due to the length of each issue, a lot of the stories featured in ''Escalation'' are poorly wrapped up or forgotten. 'Gajat seemed to be an interesting character. He was a mercenary that was working with human insurgents, Kig-Yar, Sangheili, and Jiralhanae, and then he was killed off and his organization was forgotten about (I know it's a longshot, since the comic covers have been rather unreliable, but I hope the Kig-Yar on the cover of issue 11 is from the mercenary group and Tek has now taken over or something). The ''Spirit of Fire'' was advertised to be appearing in one of the issues, but only had a small cameo. Petra was kind of forgotten about. The Ealen IV storyline ended pretty well, especially compared to the others. I think that if the length of each issue and the art style was improved (maybe on par with ''Son of Dathomir''), ''Escalation'' would benefit greatly. | :However, I think my biggest problem with this series as a whole so far is how it ends stories. While I know that this is partially due to the length of each issue, a lot of the stories featured in ''Escalation'' are poorly wrapped up or forgotten. 'Gajat seemed to be an interesting character. He was a mercenary that was working with human insurgents, Kig-Yar, Sangheili, and Jiralhanae, and then he was killed off and his organization was forgotten about (I know it's a longshot, since the comic covers have been rather unreliable, but I hope the Kig-Yar on the cover of issue 11 is from the mercenary group and Tek has now taken over or something). The ''Spirit of Fire'' was advertised to be appearing in one of the issues, but only had a small cameo. Petra was kind of forgotten about. The Ealen IV storyline ended pretty well, especially compared to the others. I think that if the length of each issue and the art style was improved (maybe on par with ''Son of Dathomir''), ''Escalation'' would benefit greatly. | ||
:And I agree that 343i is starting to portray Spartans as superheroes (especially Blue Team/Palmer/Majestic). I think it would have been better if the Didact never changed from his | :And I agree that 343i is starting to portray Spartans as superheroes (especially Blue Team/Palmer/Majestic). I think it would have been better if the Didact never changed from his original appearance. It isn't over-the-top cartoon villainy, and I actually like his appearance/armor better. I really hope ''Halo'' doesn't begin to drift into the deep sci-fi/fantasy genre. As much as I love ''Star Wars'', I've never been a fan of the hardcore fantasy elements like "Dathomir magic" or Force ghosts turning alive again. That's one of the reasons I prefer ''Halo''. The science is kept relatively realistic and is more based on some form of actual science (real or not). However, some of the Forerunner abilities, like imprints, seem to be coming from the fantasy genre. Nonetheless, I'm excited for November and all of the upcoming ''Halo'' content. ''Broken Circle'' will hopefully be a refreshing read with the lack of Halsey hate (although I am still waiting for more news on the novel or some sort of preview). - [[User:NightHammer|NightHammer]] ([[User talk:NightHammer|talk]]) 11:10, 13 August 2014 (EDT) | ||
::In many cases, it's not the exotic technologies themselves that feel grating to me, it's the way they're portrayed. I can accept that a civilization as advanced as the Forerunners can upload their minds to and fro. But the needless mystification and vilification of the [[Composer]], for instance, is out of place. It's a mind uploading tool (which should be a relatively everyday thing to a Forerunner-tier civ), but 343i's writers can't seem to get over the fact that mind uploading is not some arcane form of demonic magic, nor should it be as difficult as 343 wants to present it as — we're told that the digitized personalities fragmented and couldn't be restored to biological form, apparently because even the Forerunners just couldn't get the soul to work properly. Even though they had consciousness backups in something as mundane as their armor. This leaves the Composer as an oddity - why is this thing treated as so special when it's clearly inferior to many technologies they utilize in their daily lives? | ::In many cases, it's not the exotic technologies themselves that feel grating to me, it's the way they're portrayed. I can accept that a civilization as advanced as the Forerunners can upload their minds to and fro. But the needless mystification and vilification of the [[Composer]], for instance, is out of place. It's a mind uploading tool (which should be a relatively everyday thing to a Forerunner-tier civ), but 343i's writers can't seem to get over the fact that mind uploading is not some arcane form of demonic magic, nor should it be as difficult as 343 wants to present it as — we're told that the digitized personalities fragmented and couldn't be restored to biological form, apparently because even the Forerunners just couldn't get the soul to work properly. Even though they had consciousness backups in something as mundane as their armor. This leaves the Composer as an oddity - why is this thing treated as so special when it's clearly inferior to many technologies they utilize in their daily lives? | ||
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==Issue 9== | ==Issue 9== | ||
File:HaloEscalation9.jpg Shouldn't this have happened first? | |||
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Wow this was a loaded issue! Seems as if we now know (not confirmed) who broke Chief's visor. Looks like the Constraint field isn't working for Didact or he'd use it again. Anyways fun stuff! -- Names Gall. Sam Gall | Wow this was a loaded issue! Seems as if we now know (not confirmed) who broke Chief's visor. Looks like the Constraint field isn't working for Didact or he'd use it again. Anyways fun stuff! -- Names Gall. Sam Gall | ||
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==Issue 10== | ==Issue 10== | ||
File:HaloEscalation10.jpg We still don't know why the chief left...whatever that means at this point. | |||
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Well the Didact was able to tank a direct hit to the head from a boltshot without visible damage. That's impressive. Also we see the UNSC Home fleet and the innards of the Slipspace capable Longsword. Good stuff in this article. | Well the Didact was able to tank a direct hit to the head from a boltshot without visible damage. That's impressive. Also we see the UNSC Home fleet and the innards of the Slipspace capable Longsword. Good stuff in this article. | ||
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:I was under the apparently mistaken impression that he had been composed. After reading your plot summary, and coming up with my own ideas of how he might return under those conditions, I wish he had been. It would have made more sense than the contradictory facts of a crispy fried Forerunner corpse and him apparently not being dead (is he only mostly dead? Will he have fun storming the castle?) As for the series as a whole, it seems entirely based on making grand promises and then delivering something entirely less, apparently on purpose. The first arc sounds great, dealing with politics and intrigue. Then it gets mired in a plot that promises (threatens?) to resolve the Spirit of Fire issue, then drops that thread like a hot potato. Then it promises the epic showdown between John and the Didact, while threatening to kill of Blue Team, and does neither. I just...I have no idea why these stories need to exist. It's as if they're trying to make grand stories that make sweeping changes to the Halo universe, but then decided they couldn't change anything at all. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 06:05, 25 September 2014 (EDT) | :I was under the apparently mistaken impression that he had been composed. After reading your plot summary, and coming up with my own ideas of how he might return under those conditions, I wish he had been. It would have made more sense than the contradictory facts of a crispy fried Forerunner corpse and him apparently not being dead (is he only mostly dead? Will he have fun storming the castle?) As for the series as a whole, it seems entirely based on making grand promises and then delivering something entirely less, apparently on purpose. The first arc sounds great, dealing with politics and intrigue. Then it gets mired in a plot that promises (threatens?) to resolve the Spirit of Fire issue, then drops that thread like a hot potato. Then it promises the epic showdown between John and the Didact, while threatening to kill of Blue Team, and does neither. I just...I have no idea why these stories need to exist. It's as if they're trying to make grand stories that make sweeping changes to the Halo universe, but then decided they couldn't change anything at all. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 06:05, 25 September 2014 (EDT) | ||
::Honestly, as unlikely as it seems, I think they'll go with the "he's composed but comes out wrong" approach. The phrasing was specifically "(the Composer) will not work on my new form", which could mean any number of things. And comic visuals are notorious for being inaccurate, so the specifics of what we see in Escalation #10 can't entirely be relied on. I would prefer if they went out of their way to explain ''why'' the Composer won't work on him instead of it just being an acquired comic book superpower - given the Composer's nature, his neurology must've been radically changed to the extent the Composer cannot replicate it. Something that occurred to me is that he could've outsourced a large chunk of his cognitive processes to external substrates, ensuring part of him lives on even if his physical form is killed. Maybe his mind is running in his armor even more so than with ordinary Forerunners? Or maybe even slipspace, similar to Halsey's theoretical hyperspatial AI? Even though the last we see of him is a | ::Honestly, as unlikely as it seems, I think they'll go with the "he's composed but comes out wrong" approach. The phrasing was specifically "(the Composer) will not work on my new form", which could mean any number of things. And comic visuals are notorious for being inaccurate, so the specifics of what we see in Escalation #10 can't entirely be relied on. I would prefer if they went out of their way to explain ''why'' the Composer won't work on him instead of it just being an acquired comic book superpower - given the Composer's nature, his neurology must've been radically changed to the extent the Composer cannot replicate it. Something that occurred to me is that he could've outsourced a large chunk of his cognitive processes to external substrates, ensuring part of him lives on even if his physical form is killed. Maybe his mind is running in his armor even more so than with ordinary Forerunners? Or maybe even slipspace, similar to Halsey's theoretical hyperspatial AI? Even though the last we see of him is a pile of charred gibs, as long as part of his armor survives along with his consciousness, it might theoretically be able to rebuild his physical form. Or he could just ditch the squishy biological parts and walk around in an empty suit. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 00:32, 13 October 2014 (EDT) | ||
I'm glad they killed off the Didact, for now anyway. He was a bad villain done poorly from the very beginning, and I'd much rather see the Halo universe without him. Morhek hits it on the nail here. Why bring him back at all only to kill him off 3 issues later? He could have just died at the end of Halo 4. | I'm glad they killed off the Didact, for now anyway. He was a bad villain done poorly from the very beginning, and I'd much rather see the Halo universe without him. Morhek hits it on the nail here. Why bring him back at all only to kill him off 3 issues later? He could have just died at the end of Halo 4. | ||
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==Issue 11 Preview== | ==Issue 11 Preview== | ||
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This issue looks promising since Mr. Reed is taking a hiatus (I believe) and Thorne's story has always been strong.{{unsigned|SamGall}} | This issue looks promising since Mr. Reed is taking a hiatus (I believe) and Thorne's story has always been strong.{{unsigned|SamGall}} | ||
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::::::::Yeah that makes more sense. Especially after Issue 7 of ''Escalation''. Maybe Madsen has a chance making sure the female Spartans of ''Infinity'' feel "safe and secure". :) - [[User:NightHammer|NightHammer]] ([[User talk:NightHammer|talk]]) 23:17, 2 October 2014 (EDT) | ::::::::Yeah that makes more sense. Especially after Issue 7 of ''Escalation''. Maybe Madsen has a chance making sure the female Spartans of ''Infinity'' feel "safe and secure". :) - [[User:NightHammer|NightHammer]] ([[User talk:NightHammer|talk]]) 23:17, 2 October 2014 (EDT) | ||
:::::::If anyone is killed off, more likely it'll be Ray since she is a relatively new character who hardly has a backstory let-alone people may not be emotionally attached to her...except you, me, and | :::::::If anyone is killed off, more likely it'll be Ray since she is a relatively new character who hardly has a backstory let-alone people may not be emotionally attached to her...except you, me, and sith :). Like you I don't want to see neither one of them killed off, but since 343i has a knack for [[Black Team|amateurishly killing off characters w/o any thought of fan-reaction]] let's not get our hopes up.--'''''[[User:Killamin7|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Arial;">Killamin7</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Killamin7|<font color="Red">Comm</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Killamin7|<font color="Black">Files</font>]]''''']</small> 10:27, 11 October 2014 (EDT) | ||
::::::::Paul DeMarco says hi. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] ([[User talk:Alex T Snow|talk]]) 18:26, 11 October 2014 (EDT) | ::::::::Paul DeMarco says hi. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] ([[User talk:Alex T Snow|talk]]) 18:26, 11 October 2014 (EDT) | ||
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==Issue 11== | ==Issue 11== | ||
File:HaloEscalation11.jpgPretty on the outside...ugly on the inside. | |||
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Did anyone notice that the IVs seemed to use halo 5 guardians new abilities? It says booster pack in our article but... it looked to me like the halo 5 ability. And also Thorne had camo. There might be the, sneaking up on Ray issue although motion tracker doesn't show when you zoom in normally. [[User:Erickyboo|Erickyboo]] ([[User talk:Erickyboo|talk]]) 13:38, 22 October 2014 (EDT) | Did anyone notice that the IVs seemed to use halo 5 guardians new abilities? It says booster pack in our article but... it looked to me like the halo 5 ability. And also Thorne had camo. There might be the, sneaking up on Ray issue although motion tracker doesn't show when you zoom in normally. [[User:Erickyboo|Erickyboo]] ([[User talk:Erickyboo|talk]]) 13:38, 22 October 2014 (EDT) | ||
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=== "Unknown" enslaved species === | === "Unknown" enslaved species === | ||
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Is it possible that they are actually just [[Han 'Chavamee|female sangheili]]? [[User:Lord Susto|<span style="color:red">Lord Susto</span>]] 15:13, 22 October 2014 (EDT) | Is it possible that they are actually just [[Han 'Chavamee|female sangheili]]? [[User:Lord Susto|<span style="color:red">Lord Susto</span>]] 15:13, 22 October 2014 (EDT) | ||
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Is it possible for someone to upload some pictures without violating copyright laws? That would be much appreciated. --[[User:Weeping Angel|Weeping Angel]] ([[User talk:Weeping Angel|talk]]) 15:19, 22 October 2014 (EDT) | Is it possible for someone to upload some pictures without violating copyright laws? That would be much appreciated. --[[User:Weeping Angel|Weeping Angel]] ([[User talk:Weeping Angel|talk]]) 15:19, 22 October 2014 (EDT) | ||
Could it possibly be a subspecies of [[San'Shyuum]]? They look vaguely like the ones from | Could it possibly be a subspecies of [[San'Shyuum]]? They look vaguely like the ones from the terminal. Perhaps another portion of the population escaped their homeworld's destruction and changed over the past few thousand years? --<span style="font-family:Viner Hand ITC">[[User:Lordofmonsterisland|<font color="green">Am I a Lion, or a Lamb? Or a Boy?</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:Lordofmonsterisland|<font color="red">Saint o</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Lordofmonsterisland|<font color="black">r Sinner?</font>]] [http://halofanon.wikia.com/wiki/User:Lordofmonsterisland <font color=#777777>The Lost Books</font>]</sup></span> 18:21, 23 October 2014 (EDT) | ||
:Female Prophets would be too valuable to keep as slaves, considering how rare they are. And introducing a new humanoid species as Jackal slaves sounds...anticlimactic. My guess is that they're either terribly drawn humans, or they're female Sangheili based on the Han type, which I disapprove of. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 18:26, 23 October 2014 (EDT) | :Female Prophets would be too valuable to keep as slaves, considering how rare they are. And introducing a new humanoid species as Jackal slaves sounds...anticlimactic. My guess is that they're either terribly drawn humans, or they're female Sangheili based on the Han type, which I disapprove of. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 18:26, 23 October 2014 (EDT) | ||
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:::I'd love some new species to flesh out the universe beyond the Covenant. I'd be thrilled. I've been eager to see just who was flying the ship that crashed on Alpha Halo since we found out it wasn't Covenant. But I'm skeptical about them being a new species because they look ''too'' humanoid. We already have the Forerunners to fill the humanoid alien and ancient astronaut niches, and Halo's generally been very good about giving us diverse body types in its extraterrestrial lifeforms. Given its proclivity in science fiction (Star Wars and Star Trek just to name the two obvious ones) and its association with a restricted budget, I see that kind of thing as reflecting a lack of imagination. If 343i were going to add a new species, even a minor background one, they could do anything - a race of hexapods that look like insectoid centaurs! Space sloths who walk on their giant arms! Sentient slugs with robotic arms! Anything that doesn't just look a bit like us. I (just barely) buy the Forerunners looking like us, given the long buildup of that trope and the tampering of the Precursors, but I'd shake my head if this was the best 343i could do for another race. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 06:07, 25 October 2014 (EDT) | :::I'd love some new species to flesh out the universe beyond the Covenant. I'd be thrilled. I've been eager to see just who was flying the ship that crashed on Alpha Halo since we found out it wasn't Covenant. But I'm skeptical about them being a new species because they look ''too'' humanoid. We already have the Forerunners to fill the humanoid alien and ancient astronaut niches, and Halo's generally been very good about giving us diverse body types in its extraterrestrial lifeforms. Given its proclivity in science fiction (Star Wars and Star Trek just to name the two obvious ones) and its association with a restricted budget, I see that kind of thing as reflecting a lack of imagination. If 343i were going to add a new species, even a minor background one, they could do anything - a race of hexapods that look like insectoid centaurs! Space sloths who walk on their giant arms! Sentient slugs with robotic arms! Anything that doesn't just look a bit like us. I (just barely) buy the Forerunners looking like us, given the long buildup of that trope and the tampering of the Precursors, but I'd shake my head if this was the best 343i could do for another race. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 06:07, 25 October 2014 (EDT) | ||
::They may be female Prophets. | ::They may be female Prophets. The Stewards look quite similar, plus in ''Broken Circle'' it is mentioned that younger San'Shyuum bear a striking resemblance to humans. - [[User:NightHammer|NightHammer]] ([[User talk:NightHammer|talk]]) 16:47, 7 November 2014 (EST) | ||
I find it interesting that the artists put humans in the same frame as these new creatures. It's like they're telling us that they know how to draw humans, and these are not just poorly drawn humans....--[[User:Weeping Angel|Weeping Angel]] ([[User talk:Weeping Angel|talk]]) 21:20, 27 October 2014 (EDT) | I find it interesting that the artists put humans in the same frame as these new creatures. It's like they're telling us that they know how to draw humans, and these are not just poorly drawn humans....--[[User:Weeping Angel|Weeping Angel]] ([[User talk:Weeping Angel|talk]]) 21:20, 27 October 2014 (EDT) | ||
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:Every species in the Covenant has a role they are best at, and brings something to the military that the others can't. For the Unggoy it's sheer numbers. They reproduce incredibly fast, which means there's always more to throw at the enemy. This other species, if they are in fact a client species of the Covenant, likely don't have that same ability.--[[User:Soul reaper|Soul reaper]] ([[User talk:Soul reaper|talk]]) 08:34, 28 October 2014 (EDT) | :Every species in the Covenant has a role they are best at, and brings something to the military that the others can't. For the Unggoy it's sheer numbers. They reproduce incredibly fast, which means there's always more to throw at the enemy. This other species, if they are in fact a client species of the Covenant, likely don't have that same ability.--[[User:Soul reaper|Soul reaper]] ([[User talk:Soul reaper|talk]]) 08:34, 28 October 2014 (EDT) | ||
::@Morhek: just a lil' correction, that's Weeping Angel you're quoting there, not me. Other than that I kind of agree with Soul reaper on this. Maybe the humanoids just had a tiny reproduction rate and were more useless than Grunts in combat. Or they are a ''very'' recent discovery. Dunno really. I am bothered by a great many things, many of them seemingly frivolous or indiscernible to most. For instance: the way they changed the Mark VI's | ::@Morhek: just a lil' correction, that's Weeping Angel you're quoting there, not me. Other than that I kind of agree with Soul reaper on this. Maybe the humanoids just had a tiny reproduction rate and were more useless than Grunts in combat. Or they are a ''very'' recent discovery. Dunno really. I am bothered by a great many things, many of them seemingly frivolous or indiscernible to most. For instance: the way they changed the Mark VI's shoulder vent thingies in H2A, making them look like a bizarre, useless ornamental part instead of a functional one. Or the way 343i insists on using their hideous alien and armor designs in everything as opposed to portraying variety in the former and starting the latter from scratch completely. Within ''Escalation #11'', the one major bit that stuck out to me was the way Ray apparently forgot about her motion tracker in the end. With the previous issues, the list is much greater as can be seen above (and I was holding back with the complaints). | ||
::But for some reason, the new aliens don't bother me, at least not nearly as much. I saw the alien slaves and was like "a new species? Wait, they look kinda like un-mutated Forerunners might look. Probably not though. Not terribly original but sci-fi aliens rarely are.". I could see why people might have a problem with them coexisting with the Covenant, though one can easily contrive a bunch of explanations that are more fulfilling than a lot of the patchwork justifications 343i has come up with for other matters (some of them found in above posts). Yes, I would also like to see more ''truly alien'' aliens in Halo. I would love to see them explore the Lekgolo more. And I disliked the way they made humans and Forerunners into distinct species, which feels redundant. Would've been much more natural had they been an altered offshoot of humanity (something that was hinted at by the Librarian's comments about Earth and the Forerunners' own mysteries in ''Iris''). But now that the Forerunners are what they are... somehow this new species doesn't annoy me that much. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 15:17, 28 October 2014 (EDT) | ::But for some reason, the new aliens don't bother me, at least not nearly as much. I saw the alien slaves and was like "a new species? Wait, they look kinda like un-mutated Forerunners might look. Probably not though. Not terribly original but sci-fi aliens rarely are.". I could see why people might have a problem with them coexisting with the Covenant, though one can easily contrive a bunch of explanations that are more fulfilling than a lot of the patchwork justifications 343i has come up with for other matters (some of them found in above posts). Yes, I would also like to see more ''truly alien'' aliens in Halo. I would love to see them explore the Lekgolo more. And I disliked the way they made humans and Forerunners into distinct species, which feels redundant. Would've been much more natural had they been an altered offshoot of humanity (something that was hinted at by the Librarian's comments about Earth and the Forerunners' own mysteries in ''Iris''). But now that the Forerunners are what they are... somehow this new species doesn't annoy me that much. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 15:17, 28 October 2014 (EDT) | ||
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They look kind of like the prophets from the first H2A terminal. --[[User:Weeping Angel|Weeping Angel]] ([[User talk:Weeping Angel|talk]]) 16:45, 8 November 2014 (EST) | They look kind of like the prophets from the first H2A terminal. --[[User:Weeping Angel|Weeping Angel]] ([[User talk:Weeping Angel|talk]]) 16:45, 8 November 2014 (EST) | ||
File:HN Yonhet Axl.jpg File:HN Axl.jpg | |||
I think we may have gotten our [https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/universe/characters/axl answer]...--'''''[[User:Killamin7|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Arial;">Killamin7</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Killamin7|<font color="Red">Comm</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Killamin7|<font color="Black">Files</font>]]''''']</small> 15:26, 10 November 2014 (EST) | I think we may have gotten our [https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/universe/characters/axl answer]...--'''''[[User:Killamin7|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Arial;">Killamin7</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Killamin7|<font color="Red">Comm</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Killamin7|<font color="Black">Files</font>]]''''']</small> 15:26, 10 November 2014 (EST) | ||
:Saw that mentioned in a forum on Waypoint. This is going to be a ''very'' interesting week for Halopedia. -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] ([[User talk:SFH|talk]]) 15:46, 10 November 2014 (EST) | :Saw that mentioned in a forum on Waypoint. This is going to be a ''very'' interesting week for Halopedia. -- [[User:SFH|SFH]] ([[User talk:SFH|talk]]) 15:46, 10 November 2014 (EST) | ||
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==Issue 15's cover== | ==Issue 15's cover== | ||
File:Halo Escalation 15.jpg | |||
Is it me, or the sky looks like the interior of a shield world? It's possible that it's just my imagination, or that the artist didn't pay attention to that when he took inspiration from some ''Halo 4'' screenshots / concept art. But if the battle between 'Mdama and the ''Infinity''<nowiki>'s</nowiki> crew leads to the introduction of a new shield world, that would be interesting. (I'm still wondering what kind of Forerunner installation the Absolute Record is supposed to be.) Anyway, it's just a cover, and we all know that ''Escalation''<nowiki>'s</nowiki> covers are far from being reliable. (sigh) [[User:Imrane-117|Imrane-117]] ([[User talk:Imrane-117|talk]]) 18:38, 18 November 2014 (EST) | Is it me, or the sky looks like the interior of a shield world? It's possible that it's just my imagination, or that the artist didn't pay attention to that when he took inspiration from some ''Halo 4'' screenshots / concept art. But if the battle between 'Mdama and the ''Infinity''<nowiki>'s</nowiki> crew leads to the introduction of a new shield world, that would be interesting. (I'm still wondering what kind of Forerunner installation the Absolute Record is supposed to be.) Anyway, it's just a cover, and we all know that ''Escalation''<nowiki>'s</nowiki> covers are far from being reliable. (sigh) [[User:Imrane-117|Imrane-117]] ([[User talk:Imrane-117|talk]]) 18:38, 18 November 2014 (EST) | ||
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==Issue 12== | ==Issue 12== | ||
File:HaloEscalation12.jpg Finally, a cover that depicts what actually happens! | |||
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After reading the last entry in the ''Exposure'' story arc, I have to say I'm impressed with the writing of this new author. Particular the ending of this issue is what caught me off guard. It was a clever idea and nice to add a curve-ball to further fuel our interest in ONI's shenanigans. That alone will make me want to see what happens next in the next story arc. Other than that I liked the overall comic. The action was welled paced and I like the addition of the queen (who was rather ruthless - "''Kill him!''"). It's nice to see other areas of the Haloverse explored. I also liked the character development primarily from Ray, how she seems emotionally attached to Thorne. I see them dating in the ''Spartan Ops: The Janus Key'' story arc. You know it's going to happen, just a matter of time. The only true flaws I saw with this issue was two things. First is the art, mainly with the human characters. I always had a problem with the consistency of the way characters were drawn. In the previous issue it was Throne and Ray, now Palmer and Majestic squad get the "lazy artist" treatment. Its a bit of a disappointment and I wish the artist took better care in maintaining character appearances from issue to issue to avoid making it seem like different artist worked on the issues (even if different artist work on the issue). They should operate like a company, where the work produced by this company is consistent across all drawings, looking like it the company has their -yoink!- together. The second problem is the forgotten slaves. We don't see any of them mentioned or show up in this issue. Maybe they were rescued, killed, or fled. Who knows? And that's a problem. It would've been interesting to see them being led to a dropship or something at least in one or two panels. Oh well. Anyway, it was a good conclusion to this story arc and adds something to the Haloverse compared to the ''last 72 hours''.--'''''[[User:Killamin7|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Arial;">Killamin7</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Killamin7|<font color="Red">Comm</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Killamin7|<font color="Black">Files</font>]]''''']</small> 19:58, 30 November 2014 (EST) | After reading the last entry in the ''Exposure'' story arc, I have to say I'm impressed with the writing of this new author. Particular the ending of this issue is what caught me off guard. It was a clever idea and nice to add a curve-ball to further fuel our interest in ONI's shenanigans. That alone will make me want to see what happens next in the next story arc. Other than that I liked the overall comic. The action was welled paced and I like the addition of the queen (who was rather ruthless - "''Kill him!''"). It's nice to see other areas of the Haloverse explored. I also liked the character development primarily from Ray, how she seems emotionally attached to Thorne. I see them dating in the ''Spartan Ops: The Janus Key'' story arc. You know it's going to happen, just a matter of time. The only true flaws I saw with this issue was two things. First is the art, mainly with the human characters. I always had a problem with the consistency of the way characters were drawn. In the previous issue it was Throne and Ray, now Palmer and Majestic squad get the "lazy artist" treatment. Its a bit of a disappointment and I wish the artist took better care in maintaining character appearances from issue to issue to avoid making it seem like different artist worked on the issues (even if different artist work on the issue). They should operate like a company, where the work produced by this company is consistent across all drawings, looking like it the company has their -yoink!- together. The second problem is the forgotten slaves. We don't see any of them mentioned or show up in this issue. Maybe they were rescued, killed, or fled. Who knows? And that's a problem. It would've been interesting to see them being led to a dropship or something at least in one or two panels. Oh well. Anyway, it was a good conclusion to this story arc and adds something to the Haloverse compared to the ''last 72 hours''.--'''''[[User:Killamin7|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Arial;">Killamin7</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Killamin7|<font color="Red">Comm</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Killamin7|<font color="Black">Files</font>]]''''']</small> 19:58, 30 November 2014 (EST) | ||
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==Issue 13== | ==Issue 13== | ||
File:HaloEscalation13.jpgShe didn't use that machine gun! | |||
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After reading the issue, I'm satisfied with the beginning of Spartan ops "season 2". The idea of a battle to draw out the UNSC was pretty clever and I'm glad we got introduced to a planet that was introduced in multiplayer. The battle itself was short and the UNSC "victory" was a lil "offscreen" (at least that's how I interpreted it) but seeing a warthog land on top a phantom was entertaining. And once again Thorne is injured during a battle. How many times are they going to hurt this dude? It seems as though Palmer is still holding a grudge towards Halsey. You'd think w/ the shenanigans that Osman & ONI have played over these past couple issues and the fact that Halsey gave the UNSC half the janus key, that Palmer would have some sort of understanding to what's going on but I guess she still sees no good in Halsey. Now, Halsey's clever manipulation of the Infinity's slipspace drive was interesting, though it's almost similar to what was done to the Infinity back at Requiem. Overall the story was short but alright. Its a nice slow start to what we may see next. Now hopefully Halsey doesn't turn evil like Jul.--'''''[[User:Killamin7|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Arial;">Killamin7</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Killamin7|<font color="Red">Comm</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Killamin7|<font color="Black">Files</font>]]''''']</small> 14:13, 25 December 2014 (EST) | After reading the issue, I'm satisfied with the beginning of Spartan ops "season 2". The idea of a battle to draw out the UNSC was pretty clever and I'm glad we got introduced to a planet that was introduced in multiplayer. The battle itself was short and the UNSC "victory" was a lil "offscreen" (at least that's how I interpreted it) but seeing a warthog land on top a phantom was entertaining. And once again Thorne is injured during a battle. How many times are they going to hurt this dude? It seems as though Palmer is still holding a grudge towards Halsey. You'd think w/ the shenanigans that Osman & ONI have played over these past couple issues and the fact that Halsey gave the UNSC half the janus key, that Palmer would have some sort of understanding to what's going on but I guess she still sees no good in Halsey. Now, Halsey's clever manipulation of the Infinity's slipspace drive was interesting, though it's almost similar to what was done to the Infinity back at Requiem. Overall the story was short but alright. Its a nice slow start to what we may see next. Now hopefully Halsey doesn't turn evil like Jul.--'''''[[User:Killamin7|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Arial;">Killamin7</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Killamin7|<font color="Red">Comm</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Killamin7|<font color="Black">Files</font>]]''''']</small> 14:13, 25 December 2014 (EST) | ||
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==Issue 14== | ==Issue 14== | ||
File:HaloEscalation14.jpg Uh, Jul never left his ship 343I. | |||
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After reading through the comic, I have to say, I like where this story is headed. Just like Sali, I'm just as angry that Jul sent Requiem into its sun. So a nice three way battle is what I'd like to see right now. Though I wish they would make the ''Infinity'' crew more creative and smarter. I'm kind of annoyed with the crew doing things "by the book" and finding themselves in all these traps. For instance, I wish they'd suspect that there was a trap waiting for them once they brought the key off the ''Infinity'' but nope. Only Roland was smart enough to mention that it would be best to keep the key onboard the ship. Otherwise Lasky just happily sends the key off the ship. And as predictable, the Pelican carrying it is shot out the sky. I would've like to see like a decoy Pelican that could've flew in front of the real one or multiple Pelicans to throw Jul & Sali off a loop. Overall the issue is a fun and decent read but some parts of it were predictable.--'''''[[User:Killamin7i|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Arial;">Killamin</span><span style="color:red; font-family: Arial;">7</span><span style="color:black; font-family: Arial;">i</span>]]''''' [[User talk:Killamin7i|<font color="Gray">///</font>]] 13:10, 3 February 2015 (EST) | After reading through the comic, I have to say, I like where this story is headed. Just like Sali, I'm just as angry that Jul sent Requiem into its sun. So a nice three way battle is what I'd like to see right now. Though I wish they would make the ''Infinity'' crew more creative and smarter. I'm kind of annoyed with the crew doing things "by the book" and finding themselves in all these traps. For instance, I wish they'd suspect that there was a trap waiting for them once they brought the key off the ''Infinity'' but nope. Only Roland was smart enough to mention that it would be best to keep the key onboard the ship. Otherwise Lasky just happily sends the key off the ship. And as predictable, the Pelican carrying it is shot out the sky. I would've like to see like a decoy Pelican that could've flew in front of the real one or multiple Pelicans to throw Jul & Sali off a loop. Overall the issue is a fun and decent read but some parts of it were predictable.--'''''[[User:Killamin7i|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Arial;">Killamin</span><span style="color:red; font-family: Arial;">7</span><span style="color:black; font-family: Arial;">i</span>]]''''' [[User talk:Killamin7i|<font color="Gray">///</font>]] 13:10, 3 February 2015 (EST) | ||
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==Issue 17's cover/story and is 18 "the end"?== | ==Issue 17's cover/story and is 18 "the end"?== | ||
File:Halo Escalation 17.jpg | |||
I like issue 17's cover. But what I '''really''' like about it are the new covenant ship designs. Finally, we get something that isn't the typical copy-paste-change detail design 343i kept going with. The question is, will they be implemented in that issue or are we going to see yet another "something on the cover that doesn't happen in the comic". Also, what currently unseen ships could they be? I was thinking along the lines of Covenant frigates or RPV-class light destroyers but who knows. As for the story, who could this mysterious Spartan-IV be? I'm really hoping for a S-III finding him/herself in the S-4 program, especially since there's not much mystery being the S-4 program itself. And finally, will issue 18 be the final comic in the escalation series? ''Halo Canon'' made a good point about 343i creating these comics to make the paperback editions which contain 6 issues each making 3 volumes so far. So IMO 18 may be the last issue for the escalation series. Otherwise, if they announce issue 19 then that'll mean 24 issues or more depending on where ''Escalation'' is headed.--'''''[[User:Killamin7i|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Arial;">Killamin</span><span style="color:red; font-family: Arial;">7</span><span style="color:black; font-family: Arial;">i</span>]]''''' [[User talk:Killamin7i|<font color="Gray">///</font>]] 13:10, 3 February 2015 (EST) | I like issue 17's cover. But what I '''really''' like about it are the new covenant ship designs. Finally, we get something that isn't the typical copy-paste-change detail design 343i kept going with. The question is, will they be implemented in that issue or are we going to see yet another "something on the cover that doesn't happen in the comic". Also, what currently unseen ships could they be? I was thinking along the lines of Covenant frigates or RPV-class light destroyers but who knows. As for the story, who could this mysterious Spartan-IV be? I'm really hoping for a S-III finding him/herself in the S-4 program, especially since there's not much mystery being the S-4 program itself. And finally, will issue 18 be the final comic in the escalation series? ''Halo Canon'' made a good point about 343i creating these comics to make the paperback editions which contain 6 issues each making 3 volumes so far. So IMO 18 may be the last issue for the escalation series. Otherwise, if they announce issue 19 then that'll mean 24 issues or more depending on where ''Escalation'' is headed.--'''''[[User:Killamin7i|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Arial;">Killamin</span><span style="color:red; font-family: Arial;">7</span><span style="color:black; font-family: Arial;">i</span>]]''''' [[User talk:Killamin7i|<font color="Gray">///</font>]] 13:10, 3 February 2015 (EST) | ||
: This probably will not be the last arc because there are a lot of stories to tell. The ships are probably the RPV light destroyers and the ships on the map [[Truth]] look like Covenant frigates. [[User:SamGall|SamGall]] ([[User talk:SamGall|talk]]) 17:54, 3 February 2015 (EST) | : This probably will not be the last arc because there are a lot of stories to tell. The ships are probably the RPV light destroyers and the ships on the map [[Truth]] look like Covenant frigates. [[User:SamGall|SamGall]] ([[User talk:SamGall|talk]]) 17:54, 3 February 2015 (EST) | ||
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:::: I can't see how they'd be "poorly drawn" because of the wingettes and Sparth's art isn't representative that's true, but the story matches with the art. They would have said if it was Locke, but then again they denoted he was a mysterious Spartan. Technically the only S-IV besides Thorne and Palmer we care about is Locke. [[User:SamGall|SamGall]] ([[User talk:SamGall|talk]]) 18:28, 3 February 2015 (EST) | :::: I can't see how they'd be "poorly drawn" because of the wingettes and Sparth's art isn't representative that's true, but the story matches with the art. They would have said if it was Locke, but then again they denoted he was a mysterious Spartan. Technically the only S-IV besides Thorne and Palmer we care about is Locke. [[User:SamGall|SamGall]] ([[User talk:SamGall|talk]]) 18:28, 3 February 2015 (EST) | ||
:::::I can't see the "mysterious Spartan-IV" being anyone other than Locke. It'll probably illustrate his origins described in the Waypoint article as well as his becoming a Spartan-IV, as ''Nightfall'' largely failed in providing a proper origin story for him. It could always be an all-new character, though I doubt this. | :::::I can't see the "mysterious Spartan-IV" being anyone other than Locke. It'll probably illustrate his origins described in the Waypoint article as well as his becoming a Spartan-IV, as ''Nightfall'' largely failed in providing a proper origin story for him. It could always be an all-new character, though I doubt this. | ||
:::::On the subject of Sparth, I like his art in and of itself but in relation to ''Halo'' the man needs to learn to get out of his comfort zone and better adapt to established aesthetics. For instance, | :::::On the subject of Sparth, I like his art in and of itself but in relation to ''Halo'' the man needs to learn to get out of his comfort zone and better adapt to established aesthetics. For instance, this image is great visually, but nothing about it says "Halo" to me. It's just Sparth doing what he always does; sweeping alien vistas with his signature bulbous-profiled ships (which almost always have very defined Space Age-esque rocket thrusters) and a bunch of indeterminate figures in the foreground for scale. His lack of flexibility gave us the ''Forward Unto Dawn'' redesign after all. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 00:58, 4 February 2015 (EST) | ||
::::::It would be nice to reveal more about Locke and find out how he got into the Spartan-IV program. I wonder what Locke will look like in comic form. But you never know. 343i might throw in an all new character for suspense. Though we don't need anymore new characters right now as we have a good bunch of them already, ones that may need more character development.--'''''[[User:Killamin7i|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Arial;">Killamin</span><span style="color:red; font-family: Arial;">7</span><span style="color:black; font-family: Arial;">i</span>]]''''' [[User talk:Killamin7i|<font color="Gray">///</font>]] 13:18, 5 February 2015 (EST) | ::::::It would be nice to reveal more about Locke and find out how he got into the Spartan-IV program. I wonder what Locke will look like in comic form. But you never know. 343i might throw in an all new character for suspense. Though we don't need anymore new characters right now as we have a good bunch of them already, ones that may need more character development.--'''''[[User:Killamin7i|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Arial;">Killamin</span><span style="color:red; font-family: Arial;">7</span><span style="color:black; font-family: Arial;">i</span>]]''''' [[User talk:Killamin7i|<font color="Gray">///</font>]] 13:18, 5 February 2015 (EST) | ||
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==Issue 15== | ==Issue 15== | ||
File:HaloEscalation15.jpg Palmer. Palmer. Palmer. | |||
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Is it just me or do they need to put an end to Palmer? Or is Palmer going to meet her end in the next issue? It seems as though they're making Palmer even worst with this "vengeance" against Halsey. She's hell-bent on eliminating Halsey that she renders all other objectives mute. It doesn't really make any sense why she should have this hatred towards her. Unless she's still trying to fulfill Osman's orders, I don't see why she has to continue pursuing this. Overall issue 15 was a decent, fun read. It had a lot of action and I like where the story is headed.--'''''[[User:Killamin7i|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Arial;">Killamin</span><span style="color:red; font-family: Arial;">7</span><span style="color:black; font-family: Arial;">i</span>]]''''' [[User talk:Killamin7i|<font color="Gray">///</font>]] 07:17, 28 February 2015 (EST) | Is it just me or do they need to put an end to Palmer? Or is Palmer going to meet her end in the next issue? It seems as though they're making Palmer even worst with this "vengeance" against Halsey. She's hell-bent on eliminating Halsey that she renders all other objectives mute. It doesn't really make any sense why she should have this hatred towards her. Unless she's still trying to fulfill Osman's orders, I don't see why she has to continue pursuing this. Overall issue 15 was a decent, fun read. It had a lot of action and I like where the story is headed.--'''''[[User:Killamin7i|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Arial;">Killamin</span><span style="color:red; font-family: Arial;">7</span><span style="color:black; font-family: Arial;">i</span>]]''''' [[User talk:Killamin7i|<font color="Gray">///</font>]] 07:17, 28 February 2015 (EST) | ||
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==Issue 16 Preview== | ==Issue 16 Preview== | ||
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Well crap in the preview the Sangheili Minor got shot by the Zealots. There goes your cool theory Morhek.[[User:Sith Venator|<span style="color:green">Sith-venator Wavingstrider</span>]] ([[User talk:Sith Venator|<span style="color:blue">Commlink</span>]]) 17:56, 14 March 2015 (EDT) | Well crap in the preview the Sangheili Minor got shot by the Zealots. There goes your cool theory Morhek.[[User:Sith Venator|<span style="color:green">Sith-venator Wavingstrider</span>]] ([[User talk:Sith Venator|<span style="color:blue">Commlink</span>]]) 17:56, 14 March 2015 (EDT) | ||
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==Issue 16== | ==Issue 16== | ||
File:HaloEscalation16.jpg What'd they need the harvester for? Palmer?? | |||
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To start, it looks like your question got answered Jugus. At the very beginning the ''Infinity'' finally deployed it's underslung frigates. Funny how that popped up right after you questioned it. Anyway, I have to say, this was a pretty decent read. Unfortunately there were a few problems. First, the art. The art was consistent for the first three issues of this story, and then BAM! All of a sudden it looks atrocious, primarily the human faces. We already got a glimpse of demonic Halsey above, but towards the end we get a mushy looking Palmer. Why didn't they just maintain the same artist throughout this story arc? <s>Second, the harvester served no real purpose. It was almost like a setup specifically for Palmer, which didn't make much sense to me. Why drop that behemoth for 1 Spartan? Why drop it at all? Was it there for some other purpose?</s> Also, why didn't Palmer rush Halsey back in the other direction instead of "following" her? Also, no showdown between Sali & Jul this time folks. I understand the issue is limited to a certain number of pages but come one! Still, can't wait to see the Absolute record and "Tanaka".--'''''[[User:Killamin7i|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Arial;">Killamin</span><span style="color:red; font-family: Arial;">7</span><span style="color:black; font-family: Arial;">i</span>]]''''' [[User talk:Killamin7i|<font color="Gray">///</font>]] 09:49, 25 March 2015 (EDT) | To start, it looks like your question got answered Jugus. At the very beginning the ''Infinity'' finally deployed it's underslung frigates. Funny how that popped up right after you questioned it. Anyway, I have to say, this was a pretty decent read. Unfortunately there were a few problems. First, the art. The art was consistent for the first three issues of this story, and then BAM! All of a sudden it looks atrocious, primarily the human faces. We already got a glimpse of demonic Halsey above, but towards the end we get a mushy looking Palmer. Why didn't they just maintain the same artist throughout this story arc? <s>Second, the harvester served no real purpose. It was almost like a setup specifically for Palmer, which didn't make much sense to me. Why drop that behemoth for 1 Spartan? Why drop it at all? Was it there for some other purpose?</s> Also, why didn't Palmer rush Halsey back in the other direction instead of "following" her? Also, no showdown between Sali & Jul this time folks. I understand the issue is limited to a certain number of pages but come one! Still, can't wait to see the Absolute record and "Tanaka".--'''''[[User:Killamin7i|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Arial;">Killamin</span><span style="color:red; font-family: Arial;">7</span><span style="color:black; font-family: Arial;">i</span>]]''''' [[User talk:Killamin7i|<font color="Gray">///</font>]] 09:49, 25 March 2015 (EDT) | ||
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File:HaloEscalation17.jpg Ay lmao | |||
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Since no one has discussed this yet, I thought the issue was pretty solid. Was nice to see two types of Kig-Yar on the same pane.[[User:Sith Venator|<span style="color:green">Sith-venator Wavingstrider</span>]] ([[User talk:Sith Venator|<span style="color:blue">Commlink</span>]]) 10:11, 28 April 2015 (EDT) | Since no one has discussed this yet, I thought the issue was pretty solid. Was nice to see two types of Kig-Yar on the same pane.[[User:Sith Venator|<span style="color:green">Sith-venator Wavingstrider</span>]] ([[User talk:Sith Venator|<span style="color:blue">Commlink</span>]]) 10:11, 28 April 2015 (EDT) | ||