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The bodies exist, but the fact that their armor is always random highlights that they're not meant to be deceased individuals. You don't randomize the armor of what supposed to be canonical Spartans. The most the bodies do is provide a [[seven]] reference when Six himself is killed and becomes the 14th dead Spartan there, and that seven page more than proves that Bungie loves putting in gratuitous symbolism. They're just meant to represent the general Spartans that have fallen with the Fall of Reach, like [[Beta Red]], since there's nowhere to include their bodies elsewhere.[[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 21:36, 4 April 2012 (EDT) | The bodies exist, but the fact that their armor is always random highlights that they're not meant to be deceased individuals. You don't randomize the armor of what supposed to be canonical Spartans. The most the bodies do is provide a [[seven]] reference when Six himself is killed and becomes the 14th dead Spartan there, and that seven page more than proves that Bungie loves putting in gratuitous symbolism. They're just meant to represent the general Spartans that have fallen with the Fall of Reach, like [[Beta Red]], since there's nowhere to include their bodies elsewhere.[[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 21:36, 4 April 2012 (EDT) | ||
:Their appearances vary each gameplay. [[Thom Shephard|Sounds]] [[Samuel N. Marcus|familiar]] [[Travis|with]] [[Paranoid Marine|some]] [[M. Fitzgerald|canon]] [[Chips Dubbo|characters]]? —[[User:Spartan331|<span style="color:silver;">S331</span>]] [[File:Bubbleshieldhud.svg|14px]]<sub>([[User talk:Spartan331|COM]] • [[Special:Contributions/Spartan331|Mission Log]] • [[ | :Their appearances vary each gameplay. [[Thom Shephard|Sounds]] [[Samuel N. Marcus|familiar]] [[Travis|with]] [[Paranoid Marine|some]] [[M. Fitzgerald|canon]] [[Chips Dubbo|characters]]? —[[User:Spartan331|<span style="color:silver;">S331</span>]] [[File:Bubbleshieldhud.svg|14px]]<sub>([[User talk:Spartan331|COM]] • [[Special:Contributions/Spartan331|Mission Log]] • [[UserProfile:Spartan331|Profile]])</sub> 21:51, 4 April 2012 (EDT) | ||
During ''Combat Evolved'' a lot of the NPCs weren't set as characters yet. It's the same reason why Sergeant Johnson accompanies you during missions when he's supposed to be on another part of the ring. ''Halo: The Flood'' cemented most of their names, but it wasn't until that book and the later games that they got set with specific identities. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 21:59, 4 April 2012 (EDT) | During ''Combat Evolved'' a lot of the NPCs weren't set as characters yet. It's the same reason why Sergeant Johnson accompanies you during missions when he's supposed to be on another part of the ring. ''Halo: The Flood'' cemented most of their names, but it wasn't until that book and the later games that they got set with specific identities. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 21:59, 4 April 2012 (EDT) | ||
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At best, these guys are [[Easter Eggs]], like [[BOB]]s. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 22:04, 4 April 2012 (EDT) | At best, these guys are [[Easter Eggs]], like [[BOB]]s. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 22:04, 4 April 2012 (EDT) | ||
:...Travis...? *white flag* Fair enough. Maybe we should | :...Travis...? *white flag* Fair enough. Maybe we should ask Bungie instead. XD —[[User:Spartan331|<span style="color:silver;">S331</span>]] [[File:Bubbleshieldhud.svg|14px]]<sub>([[User talk:Spartan331|COM]] • [[Special:Contributions/Spartan331|Mission Log]] • [[UserProfile:Spartan331|Profile]])</sub> 22:16, 4 April 2012 (EDT) | ||
::I feel the characters represented are real characters within the ''Halo''verse, but the armor randomization they have is not and is an easter egg.-- '''''[[User:Spartacus|<span style="color: olivedrab; font-family: Bradley Hand ITC; font-size: 12pt;">'''Col. Spartacus'''</span>]]''' <sup>[[User talk:Spartacus|<font color="Black">'''Talk Page'''</font>]]</sup> <sub>[[Special:Contributions/Spartacus|<font color="Black">Contributions</font>]]''</sub> 22:34, 4 April 2012 (EDT) | ::I feel the characters represented are real characters within the ''Halo''verse, but the armor randomization they have is not and is an easter egg.-- '''''[[User:Spartacus|<span style="color: olivedrab; font-family: Bradley Hand ITC; font-size: 12pt;">'''Col. Spartacus'''</span>]]''' <sup>[[User talk:Spartacus|<font color="Black">'''Talk Page'''</font>]]</sup> <sub>[[Special:Contributions/Spartacus|<font color="Black">Contributions</font>]]''</sub> 22:34, 4 April 2012 (EDT) | ||
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:It's debatable if Bungie will respond, though we can try, but it seems odd that they would give these fellow randomized armor if they're decided to be specific canon individuals. In that case, perhaps the page could revised instead to refer to them in more of an Easter Egg sense, as they certainly hold more a symbolic presence than a canon one. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 22:51, 4 April 2012 (EDT) | :It's debatable if Bungie will respond, though we can try, but it seems odd that they would give these fellow randomized armor if they're decided to be specific canon individuals. In that case, perhaps the page could revised instead to refer to them in more of an Easter Egg sense, as they certainly hold more a symbolic presence than a canon one. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 22:51, 4 April 2012 (EDT) | ||
::I guess you're right. They symbolize the countless deaths on Reach and give off a more depressing mood for the level. But if they are easter eggs, they are very obvious ones. Bungie should know better that fans will always explore what they built in the game, I mean, who would fly their Banshee to the top of a structure and walk around on it (3 times!), or find a button in a jungle of skyscraper, or stop in a middle of a timed escape, or jump around in a jungle to find a family of monkeys? This is a bit low for Bungie's easter egg standard. —[[User:Spartan331|<span style="color:silver;">S331</span>]] [[File:Bubbleshieldhud.svg|14px]]<sub>([[User talk:Spartan331|COM]] • [[Special:Contributions/Spartan331|Mission Log]] • [[ | ::I guess you're right. They symbolize the countless deaths on Reach and give off a more depressing mood for the level. But if they are easter eggs, they are very obvious ones. Bungie should know better that fans will always explore what they built in the game, I mean, who would fly their Banshee to the top of a structure and walk around on it (3 times!), or find a button in a jungle of skyscraper, or stop in a middle of a timed escape, or jump around in a jungle to find a family of monkeys? This is a bit low for Bungie's easter egg standard. —[[User:Spartan331|<span style="color:silver;">S331</span>]] [[File:Bubbleshieldhud.svg|14px]]<sub>([[User talk:Spartan331|COM]] • [[Special:Contributions/Spartan331|Mission Log]] • [[UserProfile:Spartan331|Profile]])</sub> 23:27, 4 April 2012 (EDT) | ||
:Eh, some are [[Talking Grunts|easier]] [[Urinating Brute|to find]] than others. I'm using the term kinda loosely. But the classification seems to fit. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 00:20, 5 April 2012 (EDT) | :Eh, some are [[Talking Grunts|easier]] [[Urinating Brute|to find]] than others. I'm using the term kinda loosely. But the classification seems to fit. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 00:20, 5 April 2012 (EDT) | ||