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[[Image:JenkinsFlood1.PNG|thumb|This Jenkins?]]
File:JenkinsFlood1.PNG|thumb|This Jenkins?]]
[[Image:Jenkinsfacecloseup.PNG|thumb|This Jenkins?]]
File:Jenkinsfacecloseup.PNG|thumb|This Jenkins?]]


:Neither of the displayed images are Jenkins. the first one is a generic [[Combat Form]], the other is [[Chips Dubbo]]. -[[User:ED|ED]] 00:17, 5 March 2007 (UTC)
:Neither of the displayed images are Jenkins. the first one is a generic [[Combat Form]], the other is [[Chips Dubbo]]. -[[User:ED|ED]] 00:17, 5 March 2007 (UTC)


::Speaking of Images, I think we should make his Template Image bigger.[[User: Thunderstream328|<font color="#4682B4">Thunderstream328</font>]] [[Image:Thunderstream328.jpg|15px]] <sub>[[User talk: Thunderstream328|<font color="#00BFFF">Here me rawr</font>]]</sub> <sub> [http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/Thunderstream328 <font color="1E90FF">Stuff I've done</font>]</sub> 15:33, 18 June 2008 (UTC)
::Speaking of Images, I think we should make his Template Image bigger.[[User: Thunderstream328|<font color="#4682B4">Thunderstream328</font>]] File:Thunderstream328.jpg|15px]] <sub>[[User talk: Thunderstream328|<font color="#00BFFF">Here me rawr</font>]]</sub> <sub>[http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/Thunderstream328 <font color="1E90FF">Stuff I've done</font>]</sub> 15:33, 18 June 2008 (UTC)


Well, Jenkins needs to be a Marine with a helmet, since he lost it during the fight. He's also unarmed, since when you see him as a combat form, he's got no weapon to kill himself with. [[User:Ravenwing|Ravenwing]] March 14, 3:35 UTC
Well, Jenkins needs to be a Marine with a helmet, since he lost it during the fight. He's also unarmed, since when you see him as a combat form, he's got no weapon to kill himself with. [[User:Ravenwing|Ravenwing]] March 14, 3:35 UTC


Who drew that picture? Whoever did, you have a lot of talent, you draw very well!
Who drew that picture? Whoever did, you have a lot of talent, you draw very well!
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You never *see* Jenkins as a combat form. He's just referred to as such in the novel. In the game, he's gone from the story as soon as that recording ends. Just to clear things up. Also, Jenkins' body falls into the arms of Master Chief during the cutscene. [[User:Deusoma|Deusoma]] 04:36, 25 April 2007 (UTC)
You never *see* Jenkins as a combat form. He's just referred to as such in the novel. In the game, he's gone from the story as soon as that recording ends. Just to clear things up. Also, Jenkins' body falls into the arms of Master Chief during the cutscene. [[User:Deusoma|Deusoma]] 04:36, 25 April 2007 (UTC)


NO, neither of them are Jenkins. Actually, all combat forms in Halo: CE look alike, so it is unsure if that image is Jenkins. The Marine pic however, looks like someone else. --[[user:Blemo|<font color="#D3D3D3">B</font><font color="#A9A9A9">le</font><font color="#808080">mo</font>]] http://www.wikia.com/skins/common/progress-wheel.gif <small><sup>[[user talk:Blemo|<font color="#A9A9A9">TALK</font>]]</sup> • <sub> [http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/Blemo <font color="A9A9A9">CONTRIBUTIONS</font>]</sub></small> • <sup><small>[[Special:Mypage|<font color="#A9A9A9"><span class="insertusername">THE SOURCE OF SPAM</span></font>]] </small></sup> 02:51, 25 September 2007 (UTC)
NO, neither of them are Jenkins. Actually, all combat forms in Halo: CE look alike, so it is unsure if that image is Jenkins. The Marine pic however, looks like someone else. --[[user:Blemo|<font color="#D3D3D3">B</font><font color="#A9A9A9">le</font><font color="#808080">mo</font>]] http://www.wikia.com/skins/common/progress-wheel.gif <small><sup>[[user talk:Blemo|<font color="#A9A9A9">TALK</font>]]</sup> • <sub>[http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/Blemo <font color="A9A9A9">CONTRIBUTIONS</font>]</sub></small> • <sup><small>[[Special:Mypage|<font color="#A9A9A9"><span class="insertusername">THE SOURCE OF SPAM</span></font>]] </small></sup>02:51, 25 September 2007 (UTC)


What the hell? Even if that was his body, why the hell would that be his body? On normal wikipedia it says the infection form hybernated in him, but this says they were doing that at the containment facility.'''[[User:Sauronas Churchill|Sauronas Churchill]] 10:57, 23 October 2007 (UTC)'''
What the hell? Even if that was his body, why the hell would that be his body? On normal wikipedia it says the infection form hybernated in him, but this says they were doing that at the containment facility.'''[[User:Sauronas Churchill|Sauronas Churchill]] 10:57, 23 October 2007 (UTC)'''


Contact Harvest spoilers: CH has a Colonial Militian man named Jenkins who decides to enlist in the Marines at the end of the book, and joins Johnson's squad. Can we assume its the same? (though, CH takes place 27 years before Halo, so...he might be a bit old.)
Contact Harvest spoilers: CH has a Colonial Militian man named Jenkins who decides to enlist in the Marines at the end of the book, and joins Johnson's squad. Can we assume its the same? (though, CH takes place 27 years before Halo, so...he might be a bit old.)




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:Um...because the Jenkins in CH is also called Wallace A. Jenkins?
:Um...because the Jenkins in CH is also called Wallace A. Jenkins?


::Actually, the CH Jenkins' first name was never mentioned. So, there is not proof they're the same character. {{Arby116Sig}}
::Actually, the CH Jenkins' first name was never mentioned. So, there is not proof they're the same character. Arby116


I admit it seems dubious, but it hardly seems like a coincidence. Out of all the names they pick, they choose one of the most infamous Marines in the game, with the exception of the most infamous who is the star of the book. Perhaps his rank needs retconned, or perhaps he served as a militia man for a long while before deciding to join up with the Marines, or perhaps he's been sitting in an Oni cooler while they tried to deconstruct what happened at Harvest, leaving him to do stand around and wait on some other planet before bringing the fight to the Covenant.[[User:InnerRayg|InnerRayg]] 05:42, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
I admit it seems dubious, but it hardly seems like a coincidence. Out of all the names they pick, they choose one of the most infamous Marines in the game, with the exception of the most infamous who is the star of the book. Perhaps his rank needs retconned, or perhaps he served as a militia man for a long while before deciding to join up with the Marines, or perhaps he's been sitting in an Oni cooler while they tried to deconstruct what happened at Harvest, leaving him to do stand around and wait on some other planet before bringing the fight to the Covenant.[[User:InnerRayg|InnerRayg]] 05:42, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
:Its not that unbelievable really. Johnson is a staff sergeant in that book, and he still is a staff sergeant 28 years later when he is introduced in ''Fall of Reach''. Jenkins went though boot camp and was promoted once, from private to PFC. You've got to figure that, like Johnson said, they have spent a lot of time in cryo-sleep jumping from mission to mission. --<b>[[User:ED|<font color="black">E</font>]][[User talk:ED|<font color="black">D</font>]][[Image:ArmyROTC.gif|15px]]</b> 05:54, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
:Its not that unbelievable really. Johnson is a staff sergeant in that book, and he still is a staff sergeant 28 years later when he is introduced in ''Fall of Reach''. Jenkins went though boot camp and was promoted once, from private to PFC. You've got to figure that, like Johnson said, they have spent a lot of time in cryo-sleep jumping from mission to mission. --<b>[[User:ED|<font color="black">E</font>]][[User talk:ED|<font color="black">D</font>]]File:ArmyROTC.gif|15px]]</b> 05:54, 11 December 2007 (UTC)
 
Again, Johnson's rank wasn't specified in Halo Combat Evolved. People just assume he's a Staff Sergeant because that was his rank in 2525. It's also unlikely that someone would be promoted from a second-grade Sergeant to Sergeant Major for some contributions on Halo, so it's quite possible he was a First Sergeant by September 2552. Arby116


== HELP ==
== HELP ==
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Ya u think hed at least be a Corpral by 2552.[[User talk:Sith Venator|Sith Venator]] 05:17, 27 December 2008 (UTC)
Ya u think hed at least be a Corpral by 2552.[[User talk:Sith Venator|Sith Venator]] 05:17, 27 December 2008 (UTC)


:I don't think they're the same character. If they were, then Jenkins is older than the Chief. I think the CH Jenkins is "A. Jenkins", and the CE Jenkins is "Wallace A. Jenkins". Maybe there should be another page? [[User:Arbiter116|<font color="#4169E1">ǁŁ</font>]][[User profile:Arbiter116|<font color="1E90FF">ɔɗґ</font>]] [[User:Arbiter116|<font color="#6495ED">əґ</font>]][[User profile:Arbiter116|<font color="6495ED">ыţ</font>]][[User:Arbiter116|<font color="#00BFFF">єґ</font>]][[User profile:Arbiter116|<font color="#87CEEB">ιιб</font>]] <small><sup>[[user talk:Arbiter116|<font color="#008080">'''TALK'''</font>]]</sup></small> • <small><sub> [[Special:Contributions/Arbiter116|<font color="#66CDAA">'''CONTRIBUTIONS'''</font>]]</sub></small> • <small><sup> [http://halo.wikia.com/index.php?title=Special:ViewSystemGifts&user=Arbiter116 <font color="#228B22">'''AWARDS'''</font>]</sup></small>
:I don't think they're the same character. If they were, then Jenkins is older than the Chief. I think the CH Jenkins is "A. Jenkins", and the CE Jenkins is "Wallace A. Jenkins". Maybe there should be another page? [[User:Arbiter116|<font color="#4169E1">ǁŁ</font>]][[UserProfile:Arbiter116|<font color="1E90FF">ɔɗґ</font>]] [[User:Arbiter116|<font color="#6495ED">əґ</font>]][[UserProfile:Arbiter116|<font color="6495ED">ыţ</font>]][[User:Arbiter116|<font color="#00BFFF">єґ</font>]][[UserProfile:Arbiter116|<font color="#87CEEB">ιιб</font>]] <small><sup>[[user talk:Arbiter116|<font color="#008080">'''TALK'''</font>]]</sup></small> • <small><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Arbiter116|<font color="#66CDAA">'''CONTRIBUTIONS'''</font>]]</sub></small> • <small><sup>[http://halo.wikia.com/index.php?title=Special:ViewSystemGifts&user=Arbiter116 <font color="#228B22">'''AWARDS'''</font>]</sup></small>




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== Page blankers? ==
== Page blankers? ==


Hey, there used to be an awesome but gory hand-drawn art of Jenkins as a Combat Form. One time it was even on the featured images! Where did it go? [[User:Skinr|<font color="green">Skinr</font>]]<sup>[[User talk:Skinr|<font color="red">Leader of Iconic Crescent</font>]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Skinr|<font color="navy">Sworn Enemy of Pablo GM the Buffet Bandit</font>]]</sub> 00:50, 30 August 2008 (UTC)
Hey, there used to be an awesome but gory hand-drawn art of Jenkins as a Combat Form. One time it was even on the featured images! Where did it go? [[User:Skinr|<font color="green">Skinr</font>]]<sup>[[User talk:Skinr|<font color="red">Leader of Iconic Crescent</font>]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Skinr|<font color="navy">Sworn Enemy of Pablo GM the Buffet Bandit</font>]]</sub> 00:50, 30 August 2008 (UTC)


Why is there a CMT Spv1 image of Jenkins as the primary image? Thats totally non-canon. (I can tell by the shape of the AR he is holding and the crewmen in the background with the dress uniform and the M7S.)
Why is there a CMT Spv1 image of Jenkins as the primary image? Thats totally non-canon. (I can tell by the shape of the AR he is holding and the crewmen in the background with the dress uniform and the M7S.)


[[User talk:Spartan 501|Spartan 501]] 14:58, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
[[User talk:Spartan 501|Spartan 501]] 14:58, 4 March 2009 (UTC)
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== Deleting, There is a glitch you can make with him by at the beginning of the level to throw a grenade off the pelican and fly to him before he loads. ==
== Deleting, There is a glitch you can make with him by at the beginning of the level to throw a grenade off the pelican and fly to him before he loads. ==
Well I was once looking on youtube for Halo videos and I found one and it was a glitch to throw a grenade before you jump off the pelican and you will fly to Jenkins. But I forgot where it was!! And I want to put that glitch in there!Thank you taking time to listen to my post! 22:34, February 11, 2010 (UTC)!!!!!!
Well I was once looking on youtube for Halo videos and I found one and it was a glitch to throw a grenade before you jump off the pelican and you will fly to Jenkins. But I forgot where it was!! And I want to put that glitch in there!Thank you taking time to listen to my post! 22:34, February 11, 2010 (UTC)!!!!!!
There's already an article on that. And it's not Jenkins, it's a biped similar to Mendoza. Johnson's entire squad was taken by the Flood, it's just an Easter Egg so players can have a laugh.
==Jenkins Story==
Is it possible that the Wallace A. Jenkins found in Halo CE is infact a descendant named after the Jenkins found in Halo: Contact Harvest. Jenkins in Halo: CE is much too green to be the battle hardened Jenkins in Contact Harvest not too mention someone who fought as hard as CH Jenkins. If someone who is described as a extremely quick thinker, competent marine, and a sharpshooter.
Therefore I highly disbelieve CE Jenkins (who couldnt shoot his gun because "there's too many Sarge! :'(" is the same from the Marine elite in Contact Harvest.
I believe CH Jenkins might of had a child while on leave but wasnt born untill after CH Jenkins was back in action (and possibly KIA) this Jenkins Jr might of been named after his father in honor of him and was raised by his mother and at most hearing stories of his fathers actions giving him dreams of becoming a Marine but he still remains green as grass right up untill he died on the Halo Ring.
This would explain how he remains a PFC, stays so young (Lets face it during the war the UNSC wouldnt of kept soldiers in Cryo-sleep for over 10 years or more. This also explains how Jenkins is green as grass in Halo CE while Jenkins in CH is basically a competent Marine.
[[User:Chris-the-killer|Chris-the-killer]]
::It's an interesting theory, and it would explain the perceived inconsistencies, however we can't start reporting it as fact without evidence. As of right now we have to report that Jenkins in CH and Jenkins in CE are one in the same, unless we find some explicit evidence to the contrary.--[[File:Emblem 1.jpg|20px]][[User:Rusty-112|<span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:13pt;color:blue;">''' Rusty '''</span><span style="font-size:13pt;color:red;">'''- '''</span><span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:13pt;color:blue;">'''112 '''</span>]] 12:46, 20 October 2012 (EDT)