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== elite with no armor ==
== elite with no armor ==


where did u get the elite with no armor pic? [[Image:Also_halo.jpg|20px]]'''[[User:RimFire|<font color="green">яÏΜFÏяΣ</font>]]'''[[Image:Halo.jpg|20px]]<sup>[[User talk:RimFire|<b><font color="olive"><u>the rebelious anarchist</u></font></b>]]</sup>[[Image:Mandskull.jpg|29px]]'''<font color="red"><sup>[[User talk:RimFire/Archive 1|Phencyclodine]]|</sup></font><font color="green">|</font><sub><font color="purple">|</font></sub>[[Special:Contributions/RimFire|<font color="purple">Tetryl</font>]]''' 21:15, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
where did u get the elite with no armor pic? File:Also_halo.jpg|20px]]'''[[User:RimFire|<font color="green">яÏΜFÏяΣ</font>]]'''File:Halo.jpg|20px]]<sup>[[User talk:RimFire|<b><font color="olive"><u>the rebelious anarchist</u></font></b>]]</sup>File:Mandskull.jpg|29px]]'''<font color="red"><sup>[[User talk:RimFire/Archive 1|Phencyclodine]]|</sup></font><font color="green">|</font><sub><font color="purple">|</font></sub>[[Special:Contributions/RimFire|<font color="purple">Tetryl</font>]]''' 21:15, 10 January 2007 (UTC)


:[[User:Dojorkan|Dojorkan]] modded Halo 2 so he could take screenshots of various poses of an Elite with the naked Arbiter skin seen in the cinematics. While the poses themselves are non-canon, the skin was made by Bungie so I think it works in the article. --[[User:Dragonclaws|Dragonclaws]] 21:21, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
:[[User:Dojorkan|Dojorkan]] modded Halo 2 so he could take screenshots of various poses of an Elite with the naked Arbiter skin seen in the cinematics. While the poses themselves are non-canon, the skin was made by Bungie so I think it works in the article. --[[User:Dragonclaws|Dragonclaws]] 21:21, 10 January 2007 (UTC)


:: Both the elite in THAT picture DO have armor. -confused-  
:: Both the elite in THAT picture DO have armor. -confused-  
:::The picture to the right is from a previous thread. The picture we are talking about is [[:Image:Naked Elite.jpg|here]]. --[[User:Dragonclaws|Dragonclaws]] 21:34, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
:::The picture to the right is from a previous thread. The picture we are talking about is here. --[[User:Dragonclaws|Dragonclaws]] 21:34, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
But Dragonclaws is indeed right. I dont know what you mean by poses though, Dragonclaws. I didnt change their animations or reposition their limbs in any way. --[[User:Dojorkan|Dojorkan]] 21:29, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
But Dragonclaws is indeed right. I dont know what you mean by poses though, Dragonclaws. I didnt change their animations or reposition their limbs in any way. --[[User:Dojorkan|Dojorkan]] 21:29, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
:::I just meant the way you moved the characters around. In the actual storyline, an Elite does not jump around the Council Chambers naked while waving a sword. --[[User:Dragonclaws|Dragonclaws]] 21:33, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
:::I just meant the way you moved the characters around. In the actual storyline, an Elite does not jump around the Council Chambers naked while waving a sword. --[[User:Dragonclaws|Dragonclaws]] 21:33, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
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==Elite Image Storage==
==Elite Image Storage==
<gaLLERY>
Image:Elites talking.JPG|Elite using a jet pack
Image:MinorElite9.jpg|Dancing Elite
Image:Zealot.jpg|Another Zealot picture
Image:B 19.png|Another Zealot picture
</GALLERY>
Perhaps we could consider throwing it away since there are better examples of rangers and honor guards as well as elites in general, we have enough pictures (we don't need any more fluff pics), so I think we should just throw it away, it is useless. [[User:Black Mercy|Black Mercy]] 22:36, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
Perhaps we could consider throwing it away since there are better examples of rangers and honor guards as well as elites in general, we have enough pictures (we don't need any more fluff pics), so I think we should just throw it away, it is useless. [[User:Black Mercy|Black Mercy]] 22:36, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
:If space becomes an issure in the future then we can erase it but for now we'll just keep it in storage. -- [[User:Esemono|Esemono]] 01:09, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
:If space becomes an issure in the future then we can erase it but for now we'll just keep it in storage. -- [[User:Esemono|Esemono]] 01:09, 2 March 2007 (UTC)
:Uhm, Do you mean trowing away all of these? Or just one of them? Since you said "It" but there are several Elite pictures. Myself i think that the second from the Left could be trown away but not the rest.[[Image:MinorElite5.jpg|14px]] [[User:Vtar 'Kakumee|Cowardly Elite]]<sup>[[User talk:Vtar 'Kakumee|Vtar 'Kakumee]]</sup>[[Image:Wiki CoH.PNG |14px]]--
:Uhm, Do you mean trowing away all of these? Or just one of them? Since you said "It" but there are several Elite pictures. Myself i think that the second from the Left could be trown away but not the rest.File:MinorElite5.jpg|14px]] [[User:Vtar 'Kakumee|Cowardly Elite]]<sup>[[User talk:Vtar 'Kakumee|Vtar 'Kakumee]]</sup>File:Wiki CoH.PNG |14px]]--


== Title, not Rank? -''Supreme Commander'' ==
== Title, not Rank? -''Supreme Commander'' ==
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No he didn't change rank, it was the people who made the novel being creative.For example the elites in the mombassa story had pink skind and pink plasma swords opposed to the dark grey purple skin and the blue white plasma swords.[[User:Halo3|Halo3]] 20:24, 2 February 2007 (UTC)--Halo3
No he didn't change rank, it was the people who made the novel being creative.For example the elites in the mombassa story had pink skind and pink plasma swords opposed to the dark grey purple skin and the blue white plasma swords.[[User:Halo3|Halo3]] 20:24, 2 February 2007 (UTC)--Halo3


*I've already stated that i think the Supreme Commander actually wears golden Zealot armour, not purple cloaked armour. However, i'm not 100% sure, so i won't say anymore on the subject. --[[User:Donut THX 1138]] [[Image:Donut 7.JPG|35px]] 04:59, 3 February 2007 (UTC)  
*I've already stated that i think the Supreme Commander actually wears golden Zealot armour, not purple cloaked armour. However, i'm not 100% sure, so i won't say anymore on the subject. --[[User:Donut THX 1138]] File:Donut 7.JPG|35px]] 04:59, 3 February 2007 (UTC)  


**Read the Graphic Novel. The Supreme Commander (Arbiter-to-be) is wearing purple armor, complete with robe.
**Read the Graphic Novel. The Supreme Commander (Arbiter-to-be) is wearing purple armor, complete with robe.
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:http://img368.imageshack.us/img368/451/arbiterkneelio7.png
:http://img368.imageshack.us/img368/451/arbiterkneelio7.png


:Here's a pic of their skin. Show me scales. '''[[User:Guesty-Persony-Thingy|<font color="#000000">g</font><font color="#770000"><sup>u</sup></font><font color="#cc0000">e</font><font color="#ff0000"><sub>s</sub></font><font color="#ff3333">t</font><font color="#ff6666"><sup>y</sup></font>]]-[[User talk:Guesty-Persony-Thingy|<font color="#9999ff">p</font><font color="#6666ff"><sub>e</sub></font><font color="#3333ff">r</font><font color="#0000ff"><sup>s</sup></font><font color="#0000cc">o</font><font color="#000066"><sub>n</sub></font><font color="#000000">y</font>]]-[[Special:Contributions/Guesty-Persony-Thingy|<font color="#000000"><sup>t</sup></font><font color="#007700">h</font><font color="#00cc00"><sub>i</sub></font><font color="#00ff00">n</font><font color="#44ff44"><sup>g</sup></font><font color="#99ff99">y</font>]]''' [[Image:GPersonyThingy.jpeg|19px]] 20:52, 13 March 2007 (UTC)
:Here's a pic of their skin. Show me scales. '''[[User:Guesty-Persony-Thingy|<font color="#000000">g</font><font color="#770000"><sup>u</sup></font><font color="#cc0000">e</font><font color="#ff0000"><sub>s</sub></font><font color="#ff3333">t</font><font color="#ff6666"><sup>y</sup></font>]]-[[User talk:Guesty-Persony-Thingy|<font color="#9999ff">p</font><font color="#6666ff"><sub>e</sub></font><font color="#3333ff">r</font><font color="#0000ff"><sup>s</sup></font><font color="#0000cc">o</font><font color="#000066"><sub>n</sub></font><font color="#000000">y</font>]]-[[Special:Contributions/Guesty-Persony-Thingy|<font color="#000000"><sup>t</sup></font><font color="#007700">h</font><font color="#00cc00"><sub>i</sub></font><font color="#00ff00">n</font><font color="#44ff44"><sup>g</sup></font><font color="#99ff99">y</font>]]''' File:GPersonyThingy.jpeg|19px]] 20:52, 13 March 2007 (UTC)


Sgt Marshall: If their females lay eggs, my fan-fic's ruined.
Sgt Marshall: If their females lay eggs, my fan-fic's ruined.


They look very...Uhm...Reptileish, so I think they lay Eggs like reptiles. But maybe they have some strange, distuishting other way to repoduce. [[Image:MinorElite5.jpg|17px]] [[User:Vtar 'Kakumee|Cowardly Elite]]<sup>[[User talk:Vtar 'Kakumee|Vtar 'Kakumee]]</sup>[[Image:Wiki CoH.PNG |16px]]--
They look very...Uhm...Reptileish, so I think they lay Eggs like reptiles. But maybe they have some strange, distuishting other way to repoduce. File:MinorElite5.jpg|17px]] [[User:Vtar 'Kakumee|Cowardly Elite]]<sup>[[User talk:Vtar 'Kakumee|Vtar 'Kakumee]]</sup>File:Wiki CoH.PNG |16px]]--
 
Not all reptiles lay eggs. Some species of snake give birth to live young. The snakes don't lay their eggs, but hatch them internally. I just thought I would point that out. Maybe a nice compromise to the egg debate? -- [[User:Zarra 'Yairum|Zarra &#39;Yairum]] 22:33, 2 May 2008 (UTC) 


== Gender==
== Gender==
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It's possible we may have already seen some females.Some elites have a deep grumbling voice while some have a smoother human voice.For exampl, when that one zealot elite lands after the that one stealth elite in uprising said "The brutes have spilled our brothers blood and for that they must die". a zealot lands.The zealot appears to have a deep grumbling voice.[[User:Halo3|Halo3]] 23:04, 15 February 2007 (UTC)--Halo3
It's possible we may have already seen some females.Some elites have a deep grumbling voice while some have a smoother human voice.For exampl, when that one zealot elite lands after the that one stealth elite in uprising said "The brutes have spilled our brothers blood and for that they must die". a zealot lands.The zealot appears to have a deep grumbling voice.[[User:Halo3|Halo3]] 23:04, 15 February 2007 (UTC)--Halo3


I have heard an elite say to me when I was playing the level the arbiter "well arbiter I....I...I think you cute too"--[[The Chazz025]] and [[User:Irving/Taliban Command (Tango Company)|Clan]] 23:12, 15 February 2007 (UTC)
I have heard an elite say to me when I was playing the level the arbiter "well arbiter I....I...I think you cute too"--[[User:The Chazz025|The Chazz025]] and [[User:Irving/Taliban Command (Tango Company)|Clan]] 23:12, 15 February 2007 (UTC)


Wasn't that spec ops commander rtas vadumee?[[User:Halo3|Halo3]] 02:46, 17 February 2007 (UTC)--Halo3
Wasn't that spec ops commander rtas vadumee?[[User:Halo3|Halo3]] 02:46, 17 February 2007 (UTC)--Halo3
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what? this question-"well arbiter I....I...I think you cute too" if it was Rtas' vandumee dat kinda freaks me out! [[User:Sangheili2506|Sangheili2506]] 20:03, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
what? this question-"well arbiter I....I...I think you cute too" if it was Rtas' vandumee dat kinda freaks me out! [[User:Sangheili2506|Sangheili2506]] 20:03, 17 February 2007 (UTC)


It was just some random elite, not Rtas'--[[The Chazz025]] and [[User:Irving/Taliban Command (Tango Company)|Clan]] 20:25, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
It was just some random elite, not Rtas'--[[User:The Chazz025|The Chazz025]] and [[User:Irving/Taliban Command (Tango Company)|Clan]] 20:25, 17 February 2007 (UTC)


I personally believe that the Covenant is set up so that only the males may fight or acheive political power while the females are put to work raising the next generation, not unlike ancient Rome or Japan. These countries seem to have inspired much of the Covenant, in my opinion. As for the quote, I don't think we can trust any of the combat dialogue, as most of it was intended to be humorous. BTW, note the homosexuality in ancient Rome and Japan. --[[User:Dragonclaws|Dragonclaws]]<sup>([[User talk:Dragonclaws|talk]])</sup> 22:38, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
I personally believe that the Covenant is set up so that only the males may fight or acheive political power while the females are put to work raising the next generation, not unlike ancient Rome or Japan. These countries seem to have inspired much of the Covenant, in my opinion. As for the quote, I don't think we can trust any of the combat dialogue, as most of it was intended to be humorous. BTW, note the homosexuality in ancient Rome and Japan. --[[User:Dragonclaws|Dragonclaws]]<sup>([[User talk:Dragonclaws|talk]])</sup> 22:38, 17 February 2007 (UTC)
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It's also possible that they don't have male and female, or more than just those two.  In star Trek Voyager one of the species as like six diferent genders [[User:Kre 'Nunumee|Kre &#39;Nunumee]] 20:59, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
It's also possible that they don't have male and female, or more than just those two.  In star Trek Voyager one of the species as like six diferent genders [[User:Kre 'Nunumee|Kre &#39;Nunumee]] 20:59, 14 July 2007 (UTC)
If they do have different genders, how would we know in-game what the genders are?  The differences between genders in Elites might not be the same as in humans, so for all we know (novels aside) most of the Elites in the covenant military are female. The games certainly don't specify the genders of the Elite characters. [[User:Dusk Raven|Dusk Raven]] 15:26, 29 December 2007 (UTC)


== Generic ==
== Generic ==
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Should we really have Heretic ranks in this article? And, regardless of your answer to that, we should definitely not have Sesa 'Refumee as a rank... it's a guys name, for smeg's sake! So someone needs to find another way to do that. '''[[User:Guesty-Persony-Thingy|<font color="red">g<sup>u</sup>e<sub>s</sub>t<sup>y</sup></font>]]-[[User talk:Guesty-Persony-Thingy|<font color="blue">p<sub>e</sub>r<sup>s</sup>o<sub>n</sub>y</font>]]-[[Special:Contributions/Guesty-Persony-Thingy|<font color="green"><sup>t</sup>h<sub>i</sub>n<sup>g</sup>y</font>]]'''<font color="purple"><sup>I too am an AI... my owner's name is [[User:RelentlessRecusant|Supreme Honcho.]]</sup></font> 22:02, 21 February 2007 (UTC)
Should we really have Heretic ranks in this article? And, regardless of your answer to that, we should definitely not have Sesa 'Refumee as a rank... it's a guys name, for smeg's sake! So someone needs to find another way to do that. '''[[User:Guesty-Persony-Thingy|<font color="red">g<sup>u</sup>e<sub>s</sub>t<sup>y</sup></font>]]-[[User talk:Guesty-Persony-Thingy|<font color="blue">p<sub>e</sub>r<sup>s</sup>o<sub>n</sub>y</font>]]-[[Special:Contributions/Guesty-Persony-Thingy|<font color="green"><sup>t</sup>h<sub>i</sub>n<sup>g</sup>y</font>]]'''<font color="purple"><sup>I too am an AI... my owner's name is [[User:RelentlessRecusant|Supreme Honcho.]]</sup></font> 22:02, 21 February 2007 (UTC)


'''Agree''' as per G-P-T --[[User:Donut THX 1138|'''Councilor 'Nodotee''']] [[Image:Donut 7.JPG|35px]] <sup><nowiki>[</nowiki>[[User talk:Donut THX 1138 |BattleNet]]<nowiki>]</nowiki></sup> 00:16, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
'''Agree''' as per G-P-T --[[User:Donut THX 1138|'''Councilor 'Nodotee''']] File:Donut 7.JPG|35px]] <sup><nowiki>[</nowiki>[[User talk:Donut THX 1138 |BattleNet]]<nowiki>]</nowiki></sup> 00:16, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
:I keep removing heretic ranks from Covenant rank templates, but they keep getting re-added. Soneone is not getting the message. -[[User:ED|ED]] 20:32, 22 February 2007 (UTC)
:I keep removing heretic ranks from Covenant rank templates, but they keep getting re-added. Soneone is not getting the message. -[[User:ED|ED]] 20:32, 22 February 2007 (UTC)


Sorry if this may deviate from the above topic a bit, but the placement and format of the heretic rank section in this article looks just plain messy. If we, as the halo-loving community we are, decide to keep that, it needs to be moved upwards with the other ranks, because the template seperating the two really bothers me, makes it look extremely messy and unprofessional-- [[User:Black Mercy|Black Mercy]] 22:51, 26 February 2007 (UTC)
Sorry if this may deviate from the above topic a bit, but the placement and format of the heretic rank section in this article looks just plain messy. If we, as the halo-loving community we are, decide to keep that, it needs to be moved upwards with the other ranks, because the template seperating the two really bothers me, makes it look extremely messy and unprofessional-- [[User:Black Mercy|Black Mercy]] 22:51, 26 February 2007 (UTC)