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:@Jugus: wow. That quote. I knew there was something lurking in the back of my memory, but all the way back to Ghosts of Onyx? It makes me think that the Covenant finally defeated whatever enemy it might have been fighting at the time, which explains the sudden increase of fleet numbers just as the UNSC was close to reaching technological parity, where you from engagements where a dozen or so ships is a daunting prospect to something like the Fleet of Particular Justice at Reach. Unfortunate for humanity though, but it would also explain why they didn't make a sudden resurgence when the Covenant fell. Once again, not saying I'm convinced that this is the case, but it is an interesting possibility, one which I hope 343 manages to incorporate somehow. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 16:11, 25 February 2014 (EST)
:@Jugus: wow. That quote. I knew there was something lurking in the back of my memory, but all the way back to Ghosts of Onyx? It makes me think that the Covenant finally defeated whatever enemy it might have been fighting at the time, which explains the sudden increase of fleet numbers just as the UNSC was close to reaching technological parity, where you from engagements where a dozen or so ships is a daunting prospect to something like the Fleet of Particular Justice at Reach. Unfortunate for humanity though, but it would also explain why they didn't make a sudden resurgence when the Covenant fell. Once again, not saying I'm convinced that this is the case, but it is an interesting possibility, one which I hope 343 manages to incorporate somehow. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 16:11, 25 February 2014 (EST)
::Some of the Prophet of Truth's internal dialogue in ''Contact Harvest'' suggests that he didn't think the Covenant's heart would really be in a long, genocidal war - after all, they'd never done it before. Why now? It wasn't a if he could tell them the exact reason why he'd decided to launch one. Assuming no other external enemy the Covenant had to fight, this suggests to me that the Covenant basically fought most of the war with their pre-war force and nothing else. Perhaps there were a few build-ups, for example, the one that produced the massive fleet Truth assembled at the ''Unyielding Hierophant'' or the Fleet of Particular Justice, but not many. I imagine it was something truly drastic - perhaps a certain SPARTAN-III raid, or even something as late as the destruction of Installation 04 - that finally kicked them into full war production mode.--[[User:The All-knowing Sith&#39;ari|The All-knowing Sith&#39;ari]] ([[User talk:The All-knowing Sith&#39;ari|talk]]) 19:17, 25 February 2014 (EST)
::Some of the Prophet of Truth's internal dialogue in ''Contact Harvest'' suggests that he didn't think the Covenant's heart would really be in a long, genocidal war - after all, they'd never done it before. Why now? It wasn't a if he could tell them the exact reason why he'd decided to launch one. Assuming no other external enemy the Covenant had to fight, this suggests to me that the Covenant basically fought most of the war with their pre-war force and nothing else. Perhaps there were a few build-ups, for example, the one that produced the massive fleet Truth assembled at the ''Unyielding Hierophant'' or the Fleet of Particular Justice, but not many. I imagine it was something truly drastic - perhaps a certain SPARTAN-III raid, or even something as late as the destruction of Installation 04 - that finally kicked them into full war production mode.--[[User:The All-knowing Sith&#39;ari|The All-knowing Sith&#39;ari]] ([[User talk:The All-knowing Sith&#39;ari|talk]]) 19:17, 25 February 2014 (EST)
:::Still, given that more recent fiction has further emphasized the Sangheili as a military-only race when it came to their service in the Covenant, even their pre-war military must have been comparatively massive to accommodate the vast majority of the total Sangheili population serving there. Some could've obviously served on planetary garrisons in the absence of ships and many probably did, though the Covenant always struck to me more as the kind of faction who'd keep fleets of warships lying around as spares as opposed to holding back on production for pragmatic reasons. An absurdly powerful military with nothing to do is a good deterrent, if nothing else, especially if you're a hegemonic empire bent on enslavement. Then again you have to account for the issue of scale - what constitutes a modest patrol force to keep the client species in line to the Covenant would probably look like an unending horde of fleets to the UNSC. That's what a head start of three millennia tends to do. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 23:54, 25 February 2014 (EST)