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::And regarding 70.70.8.253's assessment of Halo 2 - I actually think Halo 2's story is still the most interesting of the "main" Halo games, precisely because it tried to do different things. Many fans will disagree that it was for the best, but giving a Covenant's eye view of things made the universe feel more vast, and I still regret they reduced the Arbiter to a sidekick in Halo 3. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 19:40, 11 January 2014 (EST)
::And regarding 70.70.8.253's assessment of Halo 2 - I actually think Halo 2's story is still the most interesting of the "main" Halo games, precisely because it tried to do different things. Many fans will disagree that it was for the best, but giving a Covenant's eye view of things made the universe feel more vast, and I still regret they reduced the Arbiter to a sidekick in Halo 3. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 19:40, 11 January 2014 (EST)
:Frankie has always painted in rather broad strokes when it comes to canon, and I've always taken him as more of a community guy than a fiction one anyway; he's the guy who comes to a forum to tell people to calm down and then drops a silly "a wizard did it"-caliber explanation of why something is the way it is. It's apparent he's more concerned with the big picture and direction than fictional minutiae like how the Chief's armor can look different or whether an ONI stealth ship is a prowler or not. As far as I'm aware, Mr. Vociferous strikes me as the guy with most canon knowledge in the studio, though I'm not entirely sure whether he's able - or willing - to exercise full control over what makes the cut and what doesn't, canon-wise. To me, so far, 343i has managed the factual side of the fiction relatively well (aside a few notable missteps) - it's the quality of the writing I'm more worried about. 343's in-house writers are somewhat of a mixed bag: Brian Reed's work in ''Initiation'' doesn't exactly fill me with confidence (quite the opposite in fact), while Chris Schlerf did a semi-decent job with ''Halo 4'' (for all its faults), but since he quit we can't expect to see more of his work.
:The less I say about the Kilo-Five novels the better - I suppose Karen Traviss' style just isn't for me. While everything that can be said about Halsey has already been repeated ''ad nauseam'', it's not just Halsey (or the out-of-character Mendez and the flash clone contrivance) to me - I feel the Kilo-Five books were a huge opportunity missed in simply telling the story of how the galactic status quo got from Halo 3 to 4; mainly because we barely see the transition since most of it's apparently already happened by the time ''Glasslands'' opens. That, and now we'll never get to see what Nylund's version of the shield world plot would've been like; he clearly set the characters - ''his'' characters - up for a future story which, alas, never got realized. Overall, it feels like the Kilo-Five books considerably shrink the appropriately epic scale of the universe Nylund used to play with, not to mention their almost complete disregard for technological believability (see: [[Tart-Cart|Pelican with a slipspace drive]]).
:Thinking back, the only post-Nylund works I can honestly say I've found above average quality are ''The Forerunner Saga'' and ''Forward Unto Dawn''. You can't go wrong with a sci-fi heavyweight like Greg Bear, and even though I did dislike the retconning of the ''Halo 3'' terminals which are still some of my favorite bits of Halo fiction (and I still think they could've averted some of the contradictions with just a little more control), everything Bear added to the universe made it all worth it in the end. Well, maybe except ''Primordium'', which felt largely extraneous. Some of the things that people tend to take issue with, like the establishing of ancient humans and Forerunners as separate species (though it's not like something of the sort wasn't already suggested in ''Iris'', the ''Halo 3'' terminals and the ''Bestiarum''), were already decided by 343i before they brought Bear on board and he just built on that foundation. ''Forward Unto Dawn'' managed surprisingly well for a production of its scale, though it's clear it would've benefited from a heftier budget.
:One of my disappointments with 343i's tenure to me (so far at least) has been their disregard for many of the plot lines that were left hanging from the Bungie/Nylund days. We never hear what happened to the majority of Gamma Company, or where all this Assembly/Slipspace fractal storage stuff is going, and even Mendez and Blue Team get pretty much forgotten about in favor of the ''Infinity'' crew. Not to mention Half-Jaw and the ''Shadow of Intent'', which don't even get acknowledged in the Kilo-Five books. The suggestion that the ''Spirit of Fire'' will appear in ''Escalation'', as well as the Arbiter's inclusion, are both steps in the right direction, but how they'll be handled remains to be seen.
:Morhek: as far as Halo equivalents of Star Wars "WTF" moments go, [[Ilsa Zane]]'s augmentations and the concept of "Spartans with no armor" come close to the Glove of Darth Vader in downright outrageous silliness. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 09:40, 12 January 2014 (EST)