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:I realize that there are always redirects, but since they don't show up in the search field they're not particularly helpful to an uninitiated user searching for a given type of armor; I'm thinking of the average visitor who hasn't a clue about our titling standards. Categories can be a chore, but since most armor variant pages are mass-categorized via a list template anyway, it isn't that big of an issue here. As for the Title template, I'd prefer we didn't use it to tinker with article titles, instead following Wikipedia's example and limiting its use to applying italics wherever needed (that is, we should also stop hiding disambiguation parentheses). It can cause needless confusion when the actual title is something else than what's displayed on top of the page, and as said before the title itself doesn't even matter all that much - what's in the article proper does.--[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 01:16, 8 October 2013 (EDT) | :I realize that there are always redirects, but since they don't show up in the search field they're not particularly helpful to an uninitiated user searching for a given type of armor; I'm thinking of the average visitor who hasn't a clue about our titling standards. Categories can be a chore, but since most armor variant pages are mass-categorized via a list template anyway, it isn't that big of an issue here. As for the Title template, I'd prefer we didn't use it to tinker with article titles, instead following Wikipedia's example and limiting its use to applying italics wherever needed (that is, we should also stop hiding disambiguation parentheses). It can cause needless confusion when the actual title is something else than what's displayed on top of the page, and as said before the title itself doesn't even matter all that much - what's in the article proper does.--[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 01:16, 8 October 2013 (EDT) | ||
::So, the reason for the retitling is more of trying to ensure that searches show up in the search field? While I do recognise the helpful intention, I don't think we should simplify our titling standards to accommodate the needs for users relying solely on the search field. The titling standards is for the editors and not for the average user, and the average user should not be made aware of the wiki's titling standards unless it is necessary to do so. In other words, we should not compromise standards for the sake of ensuring immediate ease of access for the average user. In addition, I think there is no need for the editors to ensure that every article appears in the search field in as long as there are sufficient redirects that redirect the user to their intended article. The search field's default purpose is to return any matching articles to the user once they clicked "search" (or whatever means they use to enter a search). The search field could provide a list of suggested articles matching that search using keyword typed by the user, though keep in mind that this alternate use should not override its default purpose. This is similar as to how Wikipedia utilizes its search function (though it would be helpful if we have the predictive spellcheck feature in [[Special:Search]]). | |||
::I am all out for a new title format for MJOLNIR armor and its variants as long as best possible title leverages a specific canon designation with a more casual name. That being said, I would still prefer using "MJOLNIR/Soldier variant" or "MJOLNIR/Soldier" over "MJOLNIR Soldier variant", and the suggested "Soldier variant" and "Soldier armor variant". In my opinion, the use of the forward slash as well as the inclusion of "MJOLNIR" imparts the knowledge to any reader that the armor variant is part of the MJOLNIR armor.— <span style="font-size:14px; font-family:Arial;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span> 07:40, 9 October 2013 (EDT) | |||