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It says in the article that the Banshee is capable of space flight but what happens if an Elite flys into space wearing normal armour? In Halo: CE, the pilot lies down and if Master Chief pilots one, you can see his feet. Since normal-armoured elites have an open part in their armour, doesn't that mean an Elite must be wearing Ranger armour to properly fly in space? | It says in the article that the Banshee is capable of space flight but what happens if an Elite flys into space wearing normal armour? In Halo: CE, the pilot lies down and if Master Chief pilots one, you can see his feet. Since normal-armoured elites have an open part in their armour, doesn't that mean an Elite must be wearing Ranger armour to properly fly in space? | ||
maybe.... --[[user:Blemo|<font color="#D3D3D3">B</font><font color="#A9A9A9">le</font><font color="#808080">mo</font>]] http://www.wikia.com/skins/common/progress-wheel.gif <small><sup>[[user talk:Blemo|<font color="#A9A9A9">TALK</font>]]</sup> • <sub>[http:// | maybe.... --[[user:Blemo|<font color="#D3D3D3">B</font><font color="#A9A9A9">le</font><font color="#808080">mo</font>]] http://www.wikia.com/skins/common/progress-wheel.gif <small><sup>[[user talk:Blemo|<font color="#A9A9A9">TALK</font>]]</sup> • <sub>[http://halopedian.com/Special:Contributions/Blemo <font color="A9A9A9">CONTRIBUTIONS</font>]</sub></small> • <sup><small>UoH/B Company|<font color="#A9A9A9">BLACKROCK COMPANY</font>]]</small></sup> • <sup><small>[[Special:Mypage|<font color="#A9A9A9"><span class="insertusername">THE SOURCE OF SPAM</span></font>]] </small></sup>02:57, 4 September 2007 (UTC) | ||
A Banshee has no enclosed atmosphere, so you would need a vacuum suit to operate it in space. However, I remember in one of the books (possibly Fall of Reach?) that the Banshee is mentioned to have a flight ceiling of something like 500 meters. This means the Banshee wouldn't be able to make it into space under its own steam. It also starts to break down the whole idea of a Banshee flying in space.. don't think about it too much. [[User:Diaboy|Diaboy]] 20:18, 8 December 2007 (UTC) | A Banshee has no enclosed atmosphere, so you would need a vacuum suit to operate it in space. However, I remember in one of the books (possibly Fall of Reach?) that the Banshee is mentioned to have a flight ceiling of something like 500 meters. This means the Banshee wouldn't be able to make it into space under its own steam. It also starts to break down the whole idea of a Banshee flying in space.. don't think about it too much. [[User:Diaboy|Diaboy]] 20:18, 8 December 2007 (UTC) | ||
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== Rename? == | == Rename? == | ||
I know you guys are tired of renaming/merging/deleting by now, and I know I'm not one to talk, but has anyone considered renaming the article to "Covenant Banshee" and have a disambution-whatever-it's-spelled page for "Banshee" that can link to both the "Covenant Banshee" and the "Heretic Banshee"? If not, whatever. Just a harmless and peaceful thought. --[[user:Blemo|<font color="#D3D3D3">B</font><font color="#A9A9A9">le</font><font color="#808080">mo</font>]] http://www.wikia.com/skins/common/progress-wheel.gif <small><sup>[[user talk:Blemo|<font color="#A9A9A9">TALK</font>]]</sup> • <sub> | I know you guys are tired of renaming/merging/deleting by now, and I know I'm not one to talk, but has anyone considered renaming the article to "Covenant Banshee" and have a disambution-whatever-it's-spelled page for "Banshee" that can link to both the "Covenant Banshee" and the "Heretic Banshee"? If not, whatever. Just a harmless and peaceful thought. --[[user:Blemo|<font color="#D3D3D3">B</font><font color="#A9A9A9">le</font><font color="#808080">mo</font>]] http://www.wikia.com/skins/common/progress-wheel.gif <small><sup>[[user talk:Blemo|<font color="#A9A9A9">TALK</font>]]</sup> • <sub> [http://halopedian.com/Special:Contributions/Blemo <font color="A9A9A9">CONTRIBUTIONS</font>]</sub></small> • <sup><small>UoH/B Company|<font color="#A9A9A9">BLACKROCK COMPANY</font>]]</small></sup> • <sup><small>[[Special:Mypage|<font color="#A9A9A9"><span class="insertusername">THE SOURCE OF SPAM</span></font>]] </small></sup> 02:57, 4 September 2007 (UTC) | ||
==Speed== | ==Speed== | ||
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It does have a slight homing capability. | It does have a slight homing capability. | ||
: Banshees use a homing capability, similar to the homing capabilty of a plasma pistol. I saw one making a 180° turn around my Hornet and then flying back. | : Banshees use a homing capability, similar to the homing capabilty of a plasma pistol. I saw one making a 180° turn around my Hornet and then flying back. [[User:Youngrubby|<span style="color:green"><b>Rezo </b></span><span style="color:blue"><b>'Scratoqee</b></span>]] File:LocustHW.png|38px]] ([http://halopedian.com/User_talk:Youngrubby<span style="color:red"><b>Talk</b></span>]) 20:15, June 10, 2010 (UTC) | ||
== Hijacking == | == Hijacking == | ||
The article states that in Halo 3 it is possible to fly a banshee during the campaign albeit you must hijack one. | The article states that in Halo 3 it is possible to fly a banshee during the campaign albeit you must hijack one. However, my every attempt does not give me the option. By using a plasma pistol it is easy to bring a banshee down to my level, but I can't hijack it. Is it the same as the anti-air wraith: can be hijacked if you kill the pilot in the same instant, is it impossible, or am I just inept? [[User:71.171.113.155|71.171.113.155]] 03:08, 31 January 2008 (UTC) | ||
no i have a nice trick to use land on the third tower and if your lucky the banshee's will follow you and get stuck in the trees and you'll be able to hijack it. | no i have a nice trick to use land on the third tower and if your lucky the banshee's will follow you and get stuck in the trees and you'll be able to hijack it. | ||
if you are lucky you can hijack one but you must not use a plasma pistol overcharge or you will fail.[[User talk:God like65|God like65]] 02:56, September 26, 2010 (UTC) | |||
==New video tool== | ==New video tool== | ||
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Good point. Does anybody have an explanation?[[User talk:Gogeta21|Gogeta21]] 22:48, May 13, 2010 (UTC)!!!!!!! | Good point. Does anybody have an explanation?[[User talk:Gogeta21|Gogeta21]] 22:48, May 13, 2010 (UTC)!!!!!!! | ||
: The Covenant don't really follow conventional definitions of roles that we use, the Banshee is obviously not any kind of conventional aircraft. The main purpose here is ground attack by strafing, but it also clearly doubles as a good dogfighter so it can defend itself in close range air battles. However, it doensn't have any long-range or truly guided air-to-air weapons, so I would guess that's why it's not called a fighter. [[User talk:Flayer92|Flayer92]] 22:08, September 4, 2010 (UTC) | |||
==Heretic Banshee== | ==Heretic Banshee== | ||
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WHY DID THEY CHANGE IT! Every time i see it i vommit. --[[Special:Contributions/68.119.63.36|68.119.63.36]] 03:16, May 24, 2010 (UTC) | WHY DID THEY CHANGE IT! Every time i see it i vommit. --[[Special:Contributions/68.119.63.36|68.119.63.36]] 03:16, May 24, 2010 (UTC) | ||
The new Banshee, I believe. is a spaceflight variant of the original. - [[User: Echo 1 |Echoes are all you hear ]][[http://halofanon.wikia.com/wiki/Operation:_BLACK_KNIFE | until the day is done and night returns again...]] 02:19, June 26, 2010 (UTC) | |||
it is a space flight version of the original because it's fuel rod cannon now has a homing feature used for air and space and can fly 1000 meters high unassisted.[[User talk:God like65|God like65]] 03:02, September 26, 2010 (UTC) | |||
==In space== | |||
Im pretty sure we can see them flying in space. it should be importan to mention it. [[User:Chief frank 001|<font color="LimeGreen">C</font>]][[User talk:Chief frank 001|<font color="RoyalBlue">F</font>]]<sup>[[Special:Contributions/Chief frank 001|<font color="Salmon">0</font>]]UoH/A Company|<font color="Gold">0</font>]][[Special:Editcount/Chief frank 001|<font color="GreenYellow">1</font>]]</sup> 03:15, June 17, 2010 (UTC) | |||
Yes they do. In the E3 Saber demo they are the first thing you fight in space. Although they are not much of a challenge, they DO fight Saber's in space combat so shouldn't they be considered starfighters? [[User talk:FatalSnipe117|FatalSnipe117]] 01:06, June 21, 2010 (UTC) | |||
It's a variant. Look up Type 27 xmf. [[User talk:Blahmarrow|Blahmarrow]] 22:44, September 22, 2010 (UTC) | |||
New vacuum-rated variant in HW2? The banshees zipping around the SoF are T-26, right?[[User:Japeth555|Japeth555]] ([[User talk:Japeth555|talk]]) 19:15, 21 February 2017 (EST)Japeth555 | |||
==Halo: Reach version vs. Others== | |||
Is it me, or does Bungie have a habit of making new items that look different, and giving them the same name as something that already exists. The Reach Banshee looks like a completely different vehicle that shares a similar design. Consider an F-22 and F-35. Completely different aircraft that share similar appearances. I think that the Reach Banshee should be considered a different vehicle based on its changes, such as the wing design, the change in weapons suite appearance, and sealed cockpit. [[User talk:Darkhelmet322|Darkhelmet322]] 16:30, August 29, 2010 (UTC)Darkhelmet322 17:30, August 29, 2010 (UTC) | |||
Well, part of it is just a graphical update/changes in artistic style; The Reach Banshee looks different because the developers didn't want to be boring and stick with the same old design. Doesn't really need a canonical reason, when you think about it [[User talk:SPARTAN-347|SPARTAN-347]] 21:07, September 12, 2010 (UTC) | |||
The Reach Banshee has major design changes to it, whereas the Halo 2 and 3 Banshees were updated designs of the previous ones. They could be different varients with the original being the standard version with the Reach version as a more modern version that isnt deployed in huge numbers by the end of the war. | |||
I think perhaps writing them down on the main page as version 1 (CE,H2,H3) and Version 2 (Reach) with a little mention to the differences between them. This was done in the Scarab page to destingish the different scarab types that appeared between Halo 2 and 3 [[User talk:VARGR|VARGR]] 17:28, September 18, 2010 (UTC) | |||
Just want to say bless you Darkhelmet, for knowing the truth that the F-22 and F-35 are totally different, the Raptor being a heavier air dominance fighter (like the lightweight Sabre) and the Lightning being a lighter multirole aircraft (like the heavy Longsword). --[[User:Delta1138|Delta1138]] [[User_talk:Delta1138|SnooPING AS usual I see]] 16:02, 6 April 2011 (EDT) | |||
==Space Banshee Name: T-27 XMF== | |||
This is briefly mentioned in the article, but according to new materials, the vaccuum-sealed variant of the Banshee is called the Type-27 XMF. This probably deserves its own page right? Or at least a section within this page.--[[User talk:Nerfherder1428|Nerfherder1428]] 15:53, September 11, 2010 (UTC) | |||
What "New material" are you talking about? I do not doubt you or your statement... but could you give me a reference, or page name, to refer to? | |||
Thanks! :) | |||
-- I agree with this 100%. Please create a separate page for the Halo Reach Banshee. The look of it is far too different and it act's different. --[[User:Ptowery|þ†öW讥]] <sup>[[User:Ptowery|^]]</sup> <sup>([[user talk:Ptowery|UNSC Fleetcom]])</sup><sup>([http://halofanon.wikia.com/wiki/Category:Ptowery UNSC History])</sup><sup>([[Special:Contributions/Ptowery|UNSC Mision Log]])</sup> 04:01, September 19, 2010 (UTC) | |||
[[user:The Unbalanced Warrior|The Unbalanced Warrior]] 17:43, September 11, 2010 (UTC) | |||
The Reference is the Halo Waypoint video on the ordnance you'll find in Halo Reach. It lists it as the Type-27 XMF. [[User talk:Durandal-217|Durandal-217]] 02:12, September 13, 2010 (UTC) | |||
:[http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/CareerStats/enemies.aspx?player=ske7ch This page] reveals the designations of both the "space Banshee" and the Seraph: ''Type-27 XMF'' and ''Type-31 XMF'', respectively. --[[User talk:Braidenvl|"Government big enough to supply everything you need is big enough to take everything you have." -Thomas Jefferson]] 02:53, September 14, 2010 (UTC) | |||
==Banshee Vital Spot== | |||
Hey, I saw the video for the Banshee's vital spot for shooting the pilot in ''Halo: Reach''. So I wondered, as the ''Halo 4'' version is also similar to the Reach version, can this still be done? And while I doubt it, has it ever been tried the same way in ''Halo 3''? If you'll check one of [[:File:Halo3-T26BansheeGSA-Pilot.png|the images]] in the gallery, you'll see the pilot is visible. I don't know if this is as the pilot was taking off and the canopy had started closing, or if it is like this in-game. Either way, the main question still remains: Can shooting out the pilot still be done in ''Halo 4'', and possibly in ''Halo 3''? --'''''[[User:Xamikaze330|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Halo;">Xamikaze330</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Xamikaze330|<font color="Blue">Transmission</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Xamikaze330|<font color="Green">Commencing</font>]]''''']</small> 14:24, 14 October 2013 (EDT)Xamikaze330 | |||
==Banshees on ''Halo 4'' level Dawn== | |||
Hey, I just replayed the game again, and I noticed standard Type-26 Banshees flying in space, which I thought only Type-27 Space Banshees could do. Thinking back on this, I have seen not once, but two or three times. Think that should be mentioned in the article that they are spaceworthy vehicles. --'''''[[User:Xamikaze330|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Halo;">Xamikaze330</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Xamikaze330|<font color="Blue">Transmission</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Xamikaze330|<font color="Green">Commencing</font>]]''''']</small> 05:31, 20 March 2014 (EDT)Xamikaze330 | |||
:Actually, it's already mentioned in the article that enclosed Type-26 Banshees are capable of vacuum operations, and Dawn is referenced. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 06:18, 20 March 2014 (EDT) | |||
::Also, it's not like 343i didn't know about this ahead of time, but for their limited use, they couldn't afford to put the T-27 assets in the game for so short a scene when they needed that memory for other objects. We ensured it was addressed in the Banshee's writeup in the Halo 4 Visual Guide that limited vacuum (space) use was possible. If this had been a comic rather than a game, I'm confident T-27s would have been drawn instead. -[[User:ScaleMaster117|ScaleMaster117]] ([[User talk:ScaleMaster117|talk]]) 06:35, 20 March 2014 (EDT) | |||
:::Oh, well, in that case, never mind. Should've looked more closely at the article. --'''''[[User:Xamikaze330|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Halo;">Xamikaze330</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Xamikaze330|<font color="Blue">Transmission</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Xamikaze330|<font color="Green">Commencing</font>]]''''']</small> 12:05, 20 March 2014 (EDT)Xamikaze330 | |||
== VTOL == | |||
It states on the VTOL page that banshees are VTOL capable. I don't remember this being possible in the games. Is it correct? Thanks, --[[User:Weeping Angel|Weeping Angel]] ([[User talk:Weeping Angel|talk]]) 12:30, 21 November 2014 (EST) | |||
:Halo 3 Cortana opening cutscene? In the earlier games you can kind of hover, in halo legends origins II there is a banshee hovering. [[User:Erickyboo|Erickyboo]] ([[User talk:Erickyboo|talk]]) 12:34, 21 November 2014 (EST) | |||
::Oh, okay. Thanks! --[[User:Weeping Angel|Weeping Angel]] ([[User talk:Weeping Angel|talk]]) 21:53, 21 November 2014 (EST) | |||
== Picture == | |||
I switched to Type26B due to it having better graphics than the Type-26A. Though we should probably add the Type26-A, B, C and D to the main image like we did with the Kig-Yar subspecies.--[[User:The Master Builder|The Master Builder]] ([[User talk:The Master Builder|talk]]) 15:41, 9 August 2015 (EDT) | |||
:The picture is fine the way we had it, and four variants is a little much for one infobox.[[User:Sith Venator|<span style="color:green">Sith Venator</span>]] [[File:Mega Blastoise.gif|20px]] ([[User talk:Sith Venator|<span style="color:blue">Dank Memes</span>]]) 15:47, 9 August 2015 (EDT) | |||
::Is it possible to do something like this? | |||
http://mspaintadventures.wikia.com/wiki/John_Egbert | |||
::Aka in the infobox have the ability to change the variant shown. If not its cool. Was just curious if it was possible. Cause that would potentially give us more room to work with--[[User:CIA391|CIA391]] ([[User talk:CIA391|talk]]) 22:05, 9 August 2015 (GMT) | |||
:::Now something like that could work and was something I was thinking about. Now we're for sure going to have a discussion later on what in the world you just linked, but I'm going to make a thread in the Forum section since this change would effect multiple Covenant weapon and vehicle pages.[[User:Sith Venator|<span style="color:green">Sith Venator</span>]] [[File:Mega Blastoise.gif|20px]] ([[User talk:Sith Venator|<span style="color:blue">Dank Memes</span>]]) 17:16, 9 August 2015 (EDT) | |||
I'm quite certain we had a consensus on which image to be used in the infobox. — <span style="font-size:14px; font-family:Arial;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span> 11:38, 10 August 2015 (EDT) | |||
:[[Talk:Activation_index#Main_Image|Found it!]] — <span style="font-size:14px; font-family:Arial;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span> 11:41, 10 August 2015 (EDT) | |||
::I agree. Topal does a great job with getting these images, but the ''Halo 4'' image is still of higher quality if you ask me. - [[User:NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">'''NightHammer'''</span>]]''<sup>[[User talk:NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">(talk)</span>]]</sup><sup>[[Special:Contributions/NightHammer|<span style="color: #2B1AAA;">(contribs)</span>]]</sup>'' 11:47, 10 August 2015 (EDT) | |||
== Source == | |||
Under the section of operational history, it states "Covenant forces deployed T-26B and T-26C Banshees in order to hunt down the remaining UNSC personnel who escaped onto the ring and later engage both Flood and Sentinel forces". Is there a canonical source stating that the T-26C model was used during the Battle of Instillation 04, because only the T-26B model appeared in CE Anniversary.--[[User:PartlyPoison|PartlyPoison]] ([[User talk:PartlyPoison|talk]]) 22:54, 17 October 2016 (EDT) | |||
==T-27== | |||
Why is the T-27 mentioned in the variants section? It's designation clearly states it's a different Banshee, not a variant of the T-26.--[[User:D9328|D9328]] ([[User talk:D9328|talk]]) 10:32, 17 July 2017 (EDT)d9328 | |||
:Removed, thanks. -- [[User:Topal the Pilot|'''Topal the Pilot''']] [[File:Blueteam.png|20px]] <small>([[User talk:Topal the Pilot|<span style="color:green">'''Talk'''</span>]]|[[Special:Contributions/Topal the Pilot|<span style="color:green">'''Contribs'''</span>]])</small> 01:56, 19 July 2017 (EDT) | |||