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== | ==Title Image== | ||
It says it is pending a rating. Someone should fix that. --[[User talk:Sangheili Commando 021: Fluffball Gato|Sangheili Commando 021: Fluffball Gato]] 20:16, November 8, 2009 (UTC) | |||
==Sequel??== | |||
Does anyone else get the hint that there is going to be a sequel? I mean, like, the legendary ending and how Cutter puts something of Forge's into a cryo chamber (What is that, anyways?) Yeah I know that Ensemble is closing, but the new Robot people could probably pull it off. Anyone else think that there could be a sequel? Joem2502:45, 21 March 2009 (UTC) | |||
*there already is one its called halo 1 ha ha[[Special:Contributions/204.186.3.139|204.186.3.139]] 02:36, 29 March 2009 (UTC) | *there already is one its called halo 1 ha ha[[Special:Contributions/204.186.3.139|204.186.3.139]] 02:36, 29 March 2009 (UTC) | ||
There may be one but they may think some people really enjoy the cliff hanger that is never answered crap. | |||
yeah cliff hangers suck and if their never answered its crap --[[User talk:Bruce9|Bruce9]] 16:31, 12 August 2009 (UTC) | |||
==Halo Wars updating== | ==Halo Wars updating== | ||
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Who are these Spartans? Do you think they'll ever reveal to us, throughout the course of the story, who they are (i.e. Name and Number)? Also, do you think they'll show us their faces? Their helmets, contrary to populat belief, are not stuck on. H1's ending shows John taking off his helmet, H2's start and H3's ad both show John putting on his helmet. Also, in the books, the Spartan have been shown their faces before. Normally only in the presense of other Spartans or trusted accosiates, like Halsey, but still... | Who are these Spartans? Do you think they'll ever reveal to us, throughout the course of the story, who they are (i.e. Name and Number)? Also, do you think they'll show us their faces? Their helmets, contrary to populat belief, are not stuck on. H1's ending shows John taking off his helmet, H2's start and H3's ad both show John putting on his helmet. Also, in the books, the Spartan have been shown their faces before. Normally only in the presense of other Spartans or trusted accosiates, like Halsey, but still... | ||
Just | Just checked. The whole OMEGA group in campaign mode has names, numbers, everything. No appereance without helmets, though. Nor they've appeared as something more than just Spartan-IIs in off-game cinematics yet. "Talking head" is just the helmet. | ||
==Flood enemies== | ==Flood enemies== | ||
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Are the flood going to be able to infect Spartans? The flood is a menace in the halo games but they are going to be more of a menace in Halo wars. They will just infect troops turn them against you. Will flood use weapons? Will they be able to me lee everything? | Are the flood going to be able to infect Spartans? The flood is a menace in the halo games but they are going to be more of a menace in Halo wars. They will just infect troops turn them against you. Will flood use weapons? Will they be able to me lee everything? | ||
:Don't create whole new categories for a comment that already fits into a present category. | :Don't create whole new categories for a comment that already fits into a present category. Furthermore, discussions based off of relevant or irrelevant news to add to an article. This isn't a forum where you can spew ideas around about how the game will play. Do that at Bungie.net or Ensemblestudios.com | ||
[[User talk:Colonel Calamity|Colonel Calamity]] 18:55, 21 January 2009 (UTC) | [[User talk:Colonel Calamity|Colonel Calamity]] 18:55, 21 January 2009 (UTC) | ||
Sith Venator they cant as Spartans have Genetic Augmentations which means that they cant take ove ra modified body like Sergeant Johnson as he is a Spartan 1 | |||
== Interesting New Article == | == Interesting New Article == | ||
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And the flood is going to be a menace. | And the flood is going to be a menace. | ||
:Well ya the Flood are going to be a menace, they always are, & Glassing is going to be fun! (not meant to be offensive) -- | :Well ya the Flood are going to be a menace, they always are, & Glassing is going to be fun! (not meant to be offensive) -- User:Mechanical-Menace | ||
== Exclusive? == | == Exclusive? == | ||
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That's right. But who knows what happened to the "Spirit"? Maybe by 2552 she's still deep inside Covenant territory, unable to report it's findings? And the Covenant never seemed to worry about the Parasite, did they? They should've guessed what the Flood was after they've studied so many Forerunner artifacts! But they've overlooked it! | That's right. But who knows what happened to the "Spirit"? Maybe by 2552 she's still deep inside Covenant territory, unable to report it's findings? And the Covenant never seemed to worry about the Parasite, did they? They should've guessed what the Flood was after they've studied so many Forerunner artifacts! But they've overlooked it! | ||
Yeah I consider my self a expert on halo and know more about halo than these guys.And there trying make a game for halo they should have studied it more. | |||
== New Covenant Unit?? == | == New Covenant Unit?? == | ||
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Oh, and another thing that I thought was interesting: it mentioned that you will be able to claim off-base locations for building structures, specifically building Base Turrets in remote areas to act as sentries, as well as minibase sites where you can build individual barracks or supply pads.--[[User talk:Darktrooper117|Darktrooper117]] 04:10, 10 February 2009 (UTC) | Oh, and another thing that I thought was interesting: it mentioned that you will be able to claim off-base locations for building structures, specifically building Base Turrets in remote areas to act as sentries, as well as minibase sites where you can build individual barracks or supply pads.--[[User talk:Darktrooper117|Darktrooper117]] 04:10, 10 February 2009 (UTC) | ||
(Possible image of minibase design) | (Possible image of minibase design) File:Barracks_concept.jpg|thumb|left]] | ||
==Skulls== | ==Skulls== | ||
Halo Wars has skulls, as confirmed [http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/strategy/halowars/video/6204958/halo-wars-video-review?hd=1 here]. Shouldn't we create an article about them? - [[User:JEA13|'''<span style="color:orange;">Μητσάρας</span>''']] [[User talk:JEA13|'''<span style="color:orange;">κι όποιος</span>''']] [[Special:Contributions/JEA13|'''<span style="color:orange;">αντέξει</span>''']] | Halo Wars has skulls, as confirmed [http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/strategy/halowars/video/6204958/halo-wars-video-review?hd=1 here]. Shouldn't we create an article about them? - [[User:JEA13|'''<span style="color:orange;">Μητσάρας</span>''']] [[User talk:JEA13|'''<span style="color:orange;">κι όποιος</span>''']] [[Special:Contributions/JEA13|'''<span style="color:orange;">αντέξει</span>''']] File:1229655910-Th_master.jpg|20px]] 20:51, 21 February 2009 (UTC) | ||
:Guess we'd better wait the game to be released.. after that we '''will''' for sure :) | :Guess we'd better wait the game to be released.. after that we '''will''' for sure :) Spirit of Fire 19:38, 23 February 2009 (UTC) | ||
It is released, and there are skulls. Why don't we go find them? | It is released, and there are skulls. Why don't we go find them? | ||
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Does anyone know how getting the map pack work? I mean, you have a disc, but does it download to your system to be accessible to Halo 3, or is it a free copy only to the disc, & you have to download it anyway? [[User talk:Deimel Longshot|Deimel Longshot]] 19:35, 23 February 2009 (UTC)Deimel Longshot[[User talk:Deimel Longshot|Deimel Longshot]] 19:35, 23 February 2009 (UTC) | Does anyone know how getting the map pack work? I mean, you have a disc, but does it download to your system to be accessible to Halo 3, or is it a free copy only to the disc, & you have to download it anyway? [[User talk:Deimel Longshot|Deimel Longshot]] 19:35, 23 February 2009 (UTC)Deimel Longshot[[User talk:Deimel Longshot|Deimel Longshot]] 19:35, 23 February 2009 (UTC) | ||
:For the Limited Edition Halo Wars? I think it'll probably be on a disc, or perhaps a code to download it. For the map pack itself, standing apart from Halo Wars, it'll be purchasable with 800 MS points, as always. --<b> | :For the Limited Edition Halo Wars? I think it'll probably be on a disc, or perhaps a code to download it. For the map pack itself, standing apart from Halo Wars, it'll be purchasable with 800 MS points, as always. --<b>CoH|<font color=purple>Councillor</font>]]</b> <b>[[User:Specops306|<font color=blue> Specops</font>]]UserWiki:Specops306|<font color=blue>306</font>]] - <i>[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=purple>Qur'a</font>]] [[halofanon:Operation:_HOT_GATES|<font color=purple>'Morhek</font>]]</i></b> 05:10, 24 February 2009 (UTC) | ||
with the limited collectors edition you recieve a redeem code for the honor guard wraith, Halo 3 map pack and Xbox Live trial on a piece of card.[[User talk:Molotovsniper|Molotovsniper]] 09:14, 3 March 2009 (UTC) | with the limited collectors edition you recieve a redeem code for the honor guard wraith, Halo 3 map pack and Xbox Live trial on a piece of card.[[User talk:Molotovsniper|Molotovsniper]] 09:14, 3 March 2009 (UTC) | ||
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== All Halo Wars Cinematics on Youtube == | == All Halo Wars Cinematics on Youtube == | ||
{{Spoiler}} | {{Spoiler/begin}} | ||
I just discovered the entire theatre of CGI cinematics on youtube. I think we should post them here, but I don't know how to myself (And if I do something wrong, I know you all will yell at me, lol). Here are the links, so could someone put them up to play in the trailers section. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWBe_9R_qIY&feature=channel] [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYY0VzAKh2U&feature=channel] --[[User talk:Darktrooper117|Darktrooper117]] 03:45, 24 February 2009 (UTC) | I just discovered the entire theatre of CGI cinematics on youtube. I think we should post them here, but I don't know how to myself (And if I do something wrong, I know you all will yell at me, lol). Here are the links, so could someone put them up to play in the trailers section. [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWBe_9R_qIY&feature=channel] [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYY0VzAKh2U&feature=channel] --[[User talk:Darktrooper117|Darktrooper117]] 03:45, 24 February 2009 (UTC) | ||
:I just added a spoiler tag to your post. Rest assured, once the game comes out the cutscenes will undoubtedly be uploaded individually, and added to the cutscene archive. --<b> | :I just added a spoiler tag to your post. Rest assured, once the game comes out the cutscenes will undoubtedly be uploaded individually, and added to the cutscene archive. --<b>CoH|<font color=purple>Councillor</font>]]</b> <b>[[User:Specops306|<font color=blue> Specops</font>]]UserWiki:Specops306|<font color=blue>306</font>]] - <i>[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=purple>Qur'a</font>]] [[halofanon:Operation:_HOT_GATES|<font color=purple>'Morhek</font>]]</i></b> 04:06, 24 February 2009 (UTC) | ||
== Released? == | == Released? == | ||
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*It wont be removed people like to use the number given in the fall of reach for how many Spartans are left even thou that number changes a bit in the throughout the book. People seem to want it in the article so much it's now in there twice with additional "Violation's of Halo Cannon" that isn't backed up or is contradicted somewhere else.--[[User talk:ZIPO|ZIPO]] 01:19, 16 March 2009 (UTC) | *It wont be removed people like to use the number given in the fall of reach for how many Spartans are left even thou that number changes a bit in the throughout the book. People seem to want it in the article so much it's now in there twice with additional "Violation's of Halo Cannon" that isn't backed up or is contradicted somewhere else.--[[User talk:ZIPO|ZIPO]] 01:19, 16 March 2009 (UTC) | ||
People are forgetting that there were 35 Spartans that survived augmentation. Subtract Kurt, Randall and Shiela as MIA, Cassandra as WIA, Grey team, and the original Red Team, and you get 25 Spartans, the number the timeline states. And remember, Eric Nylund contradicts ''himself'' a lot from TFoR to FS, so his numbers, while they came first, may not be as accurate as they were intended to be. --<b> | People are forgetting that there were 35 Spartans that survived augmentation. Subtract Kurt, Randall and Shiela as MIA, Cassandra as WIA, Grey team, and the original Red Team, and you get 25 Spartans, the number the timeline states. And remember, Eric Nylund contradicts ''himself'' a lot from TFoR to FS, so his numbers, while they came first, may not be as accurate as they were intended to be. --<b>CoH|<font color=purple>Councillor</font>]]</b> <b>[[User:Specops306|<font color=blue> Specops</font>]]UserWiki:Specops306|<font color=blue>306</font>]] - <i>[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=purple>Qur'a</font>]] [[halofanon:Operation:_HOT_GATES|<font color=purple>'Morhek</font>]]</i></b> 07:44, 18 March 2009 (UTC) | ||
The number also changes a few times during TFOR so that makes it less clear still.--[[User talk:ZIPO|ZIPO]] 07:49, 18 March 2009 (UTC) | The number also changes a few times during TFOR so that makes it less clear still.--[[User talk:ZIPO|ZIPO]] 07:49, 18 March 2009 (UTC) | ||
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Somebody really needs to make it clear... | Somebody really needs to make it clear... | ||
If we assume that there were 35 Spartans that survived augementations, 35-4(Kurt, Sam, Shiela, and Randall)=31-1(Cassandra)=30-3(Grey Team)=27-3(supposedly Red Team)=24. Halo Wars states that 25 of 28 surviving spartans fight at reach. therefore, the only logical explanation is that we must go off of the original number of 33 survived agumentation and assume red team was at reach, giving us 25 fighting spartans. | If we assume that there were 35 Spartans that survived augementations, 35-4(Kurt, Sam, Shiela, and Randall)=31-1(Cassandra)=30-3(Grey Team)=27-3(supposedly Red Team)=24. Halo Wars states that 25 of 28 surviving spartans fight at reach. therefore, the only logical explanation is that we must go off of the original number of 33 survived agumentation and assume red team was at reach, giving us 25 fighting spartans. (How is this more logical then assuming 36 survived augmentations?) | ||
==Serina== | ==Serina== | ||
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Honestly, most of these can be dispelled by a little research and effort. I'm renmoving these ones. it just seems more like someone with a vendetta against anything that isn't bungie made, than an actual attempt to wikify knowledge. | Honestly, most of these can be dispelled by a little research and effort. I'm renmoving these ones. it just seems more like someone with a vendetta against anything that isn't bungie made, than an actual attempt to wikify knowledge. | ||
''Update: have moved "violation" addressing to blog'' | |||
--<b> | --<b>CoH|<font color=purple>Councillor</font>]]</b> <b>[[User:Specops306|<font color=blue> Specops</font>]]UserWiki:Specops306|<font color=blue>306</font>]] - <i>[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=purple>Qur'a</font>]] [[halofanon:Operation:_HOT_GATES|<font color=purple>'Morhek</font>]]</i></b> 03:48, 17 March 2009 (UTC) | ||
:A good call. [[User:The 888th Avatar|<span style="color:blue;">The 888th Avatar</span>]] [[User_talk:The 888th Avatar|<sup><span style="color:blue;">(Talk)</span></sup>]] 03:53, 17 March 2009 (UTC) | :A good call. [[User:The 888th Avatar|<span style="color:blue;">The 888th Avatar</span>]] [[User_talk:The 888th Avatar|<sup><span style="color:blue;">(Talk)</span></sup>]] 03:53, 17 March 2009 (UTC) | ||
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::They used the mark VI armor in halo 2 as well and we didn't see the magnetic strip there either and he didn't get new armor in between halo 2 and 3 and did say they didn't have it on the earlier versions of the armor.--[[User talk:ZIPO|ZIPO]] 03:56, 17 March 2009 (UTC) | ::They used the mark VI armor in halo 2 as well and we didn't see the magnetic strip there either and he didn't get new armor in between halo 2 and 3 and did say they didn't have it on the earlier versions of the armor.--[[User talk:ZIPO|ZIPO]] 03:56, 17 March 2009 (UTC) | ||
::I've removed that section altogether, and am considering protecting the page to prevent its re-addition. --<b> | ::I've removed that section altogether, and am considering protecting the page to prevent its re-addition. --<b>CoH|<font color=purple>Councillor</font>]]</b> <b>[[User:Specops306|<font color=blue> Specops</font>]]UserWiki:Specops306|<font color=blue>306</font>]] - <i>[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=purple>Qur'a</font>]] [[halofanon:Operation:_HOT_GATES|<font color=purple>'Morhek</font>]]</i></b> 01:52, 18 March 2009 (UTC) | ||
::Listen, it is not a vendetta against Ensemble, but i love these books and video games and any fault should be addressed. and if you have a problem with what someone is writing, confront them first about it instead of saying things like they have problems with things that they don't. be a man... [[User talk:Psycho60|Psycho60]] 01:40, 19 March 2009 (UTC) | ::Listen, it is not a vendetta against Ensemble, but i love these books and video games and any fault should be addressed. and if you have a problem with what someone is writing, confront them first about it instead of saying things like they have problems with things that they don't. be a man... [[User talk:Psycho60|Psycho60]] 01:40, 19 March 2009 (UTC) | ||
:::I did address it with you. I sent you a board message that apparently got ignored. I pointed you to an article where it would be more appropriate. I also tried to condense and reformat it, removing the "violations" that are not really violations at all. That was deleted, and the previous version was re-added. I never said you ''had'' a vendetta, only that it was how it ''looked''. And as for "being a man"? I'm twenty in June for heavens sake, and ''I'm'' the one being lectured to? --<b> | :::I did address it with you. I sent you a board message that apparently got ignored. I pointed you to an article where it would be more appropriate. I also tried to condense and reformat it, removing the "violations" that are not really violations at all. That was deleted, and the previous version was re-added. I never said you ''had'' a vendetta, only that it was how it ''looked''. And as for "being a man"? I'm twenty in June for heavens sake, and ''I'm'' the one being lectured to? --<b>CoH|<font color=purple>Councillor</font>]]</b> <b>[[User:Specops306|<font color=blue> Specops</font>]]UserWiki:Specops306|<font color=blue>306</font>]] - <i>[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=purple>Qur'a</font>]] [[halofanon:Operation:_HOT_GATES|<font color=purple>'Morhek</font>]]</i></b> 02:16, 19 March 2009 (UTC) | ||
:::It relates to the game, therefore it should remain on the page. Try and discuss which parts that you feel aren't backed by the books or games and we'll see which ones should remain here and which ones i'll put everywhere else. yes, you are being lectured to because it is not hard to figure out who was writing what, that's how i found you. so why wouldn't you talk it over rather than just butcher it? they are violations, cross check them with all of the other material. i haven't made one thing that i wrote up. | :::It relates to the game, therefore it should remain on the page. Try and discuss which parts that you feel aren't backed by the books or games and we'll see which ones should remain here and which ones i'll put everywhere else. yes, you are being lectured to because it is not hard to figure out who was writing what, that's how i found you. so why wouldn't you talk it over rather than just butcher it? they are violations, cross check them with all of the other material. i haven't made one thing that i wrote up. | ||
:::: | ::::I did address them. --<b>CoH|<font color=purple>Councillor</font>]]</b> <b>[[User:Specops306|<font color=blue> Specops</font>]]UserWiki:Specops306|<font color=blue>306</font>]] - <i>[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=purple>Qur'a</font>]] [[halofanon:Operation:_HOT_GATES|<font color=purple>'Morhek</font>]]</i></b> 08:30, 19 March 2009 (UTC) | ||
::::Shouldn't any actual inconsistancies and discrepancies go on the 'List of Inconsistances in Halo' page anyway? *would link the actual page but hasn't figured out how to do that yet* [[User talk:Zeno 'Ribal|Zeno 'Ribal]] 17:00, 19 March 2009 (UTC) | ::::Shouldn't any actual inconsistancies and discrepancies go on the 'List of Inconsistances in Halo' page anyway? *would link the actual page but hasn't figured out how to do that yet* [[User talk:Zeno 'Ribal|Zeno 'Ribal]] 17:00, 19 March 2009 (UTC) | ||
:::Not in a freaking blog, 1on1 personally. tell ME which parts you have a problem with so i can better determine how to edit them | :::Not in a freaking blog, 1on1 personally. tell ME which parts you have a problem with so i can better determine how to edit them | ||
while there are some cannon flaws like the spartan lasers being in the game the halo universe is changeble such as in the fall of reach all but 6 or 7 spartans are at reach 2 KIA and one WIA and grey teams some where else but then thats proven wrong since kurt and randall disapeared and some one else got killed by hunters now with red teams MIA even less but there was a second batch of spartans they weren't trained by mendez and where the funding came from is unknown though--[[User talk:Bruce9|Bruce9]] 16:48, 12 August 2009 (UTC) | |||
== Faulty Link == | == Faulty Link == | ||
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As far as SPARTANS, I'm not as good at that subject, so I won't question the information presented (for the moment). However, it still needs sourcing and citations for the claims presented. I would have cleaned this up myself, but due to the article being locked I'm hoping an admin would be willing to do this. Have a nice day, [[User:Master Gump|Master Gump]]<sup>[[User talk:Master Gump|Me, myself and me are very important... Or not]]</sup> 18:12, 19 March 2009 (UTC) | As far as SPARTANS, I'm not as good at that subject, so I won't question the information presented (for the moment). However, it still needs sourcing and citations for the claims presented. I would have cleaned this up myself, but due to the article being locked I'm hoping an admin would be willing to do this. Have a nice day, [[User:Master Gump|Master Gump]]<sup>[[User talk:Master Gump|Me, myself and me are very important... Or not]]</sup> 18:12, 19 March 2009 (UTC) | ||
The fact that elites are different sizes is irrelevant. Armor can be shaped to match body shape (Like suits of armor in the medieval times, smiths could change the shape of that armor to match a single person). But the survival of the suit over time is unlikely, so you do have a good point. | |||
while it is odd that the special ops elites directly say the armor isn't as new as theirs you do have a point about the damage--[[User talk:Bruce9|Bruce9]] 16:57, 12 August 2009 (UTC) | |||
This could be because they use the same 'model' of armor for each Arbiter. This could lead to a new set of armor for each, yet it still being 'not as new' as the fully updated Elite special ops armor. | |||
==Rebels== | ==Rebels== | ||
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:You'd rather Ensemble dedicated half of the gameplay to just placing a base? Most of the people who play this are going to have the attention spans of chimpanzees, and would want to get right into the fight. They don't have time or patience that traditional RTS players have, and the game needs to take that into account. Besides that, the controller doesn't really give the player much in the way of options. | :You'd rather Ensemble dedicated half of the gameplay to just placing a base? Most of the people who play this are going to have the attention spans of chimpanzees, and would want to get right into the fight. They don't have time or patience that traditional RTS players have, and the game needs to take that into account. Besides that, the controller doesn't really give the player much in the way of options. | ||
:I agree that it reduces tactical options, but it was a conscious decision by Ensemble to focus more on action than micro-managing. They could have enhanced it somewhat with more structures with specialised functions - decide which tech tree you ''had'' to follow, and make the player stick with it, rather than select leaders pre-game. Once you build, say, an "ONI Armoury", you had a set of upgrades that you can use, but can't build other types. And etc. -- <b>[[Halopedia:Administrators|<font color=blue>Administrator</font>]] [[User:Specops306|<font color=blue>Specops306</font>]] - ''[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=purple>Qur'a 'Morhek</font>]]'' <sup>''[[ | :I agree that it reduces tactical options, but it was a conscious decision by Ensemble to focus more on action than micro-managing. They could have enhanced it somewhat with more structures with specialised functions - decide which tech tree you ''had'' to follow, and make the player stick with it, rather than select leaders pre-game. Once you build, say, an "ONI Armoury", you had a set of upgrades that you can use, but can't build other types. And etc. -- <b>[[Halopedia:Administrators|<font color=blue>Administrator</font>]] [[User:Specops306|<font color=blue>Specops306</font>]] - ''[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=purple>Qur'a 'Morhek</font>]]'' <sup>''[[halofanon:Operation: HOT GATES|<u><font color=blue>Honour Light Your Way!</font></u>]]''</sup></b> 10:23, 29 March 2009 (UTC) | ||
Just because you don't like it doesn't make it a bad design. A large portion of the people I've talked to appreciate not having to spend so much energy managing economy or building locations, particularly with the limited controls of a console. Independent of personal opinions, it's irrelevant to the Wiki, unless in a section on critical review, which should be from cited sources. | |||
== News Story == | == News Story == | ||
Is the news about the leaked campaign expansion true or is it just an April Fools Day thing?[[User talk:Trooper117|Trooper117]] 20:05, 1 April 2009 (UTC) | Is the news about the leaked campaign expansion true or is it just an April Fools Day thing?[[User talk:Trooper117|Trooper117]] 20:05, 1 April 2009 (UTC) | ||
== Previous canon contradiction == | |||
I think the plentiful things in which Halo Wars contradicts previous canon should be addressed somewhere in the page. Some of which include: | |||
Humans in general (Forge as an example, defeating the ''freaking Arbiter'' in hand-to-hand combat) being exxageratedly overpowered in combat against elites. | |||
In the novels, the Spartans were described as being about on par with elites in combat, but not like in the game(edit: pluralize), where they just slaughter them with almost comical ease. | |||
Another thing about the spartans is, why even were there so many of them on Arcadia? Red team i understand, but team omega is a little much. I mean, normally spartans were deployed only in small teams. Also, how was Arcadia so important to defend, as it was just a lowly populated vacation resort. There were a plenty of other colonies being attacked at the time. | |||
Originally it was stated that elites weren't even deployed in battle against humans before the battle of Reach. At least not in as large numbers as in HW. However, this is probably just because of the gameplay. As is the issue with spartans having shields. | |||
In the end, Anders and much of the other staff go to cryo pods with clothes on. However, it was stated earlier (in The fall of Reach) that normal humans couldn't go to cryo with clothes on, as it would've caused immense pain and freeze burns. Of course, they couldn't have shown Anders naked in a T-rated game, but they could've simply made the scene different and simply left the cryo pod part out. | |||
There are some more, but i don't have time to write right now. Anyways, anyone else think some of these things should be mentioned on the page? | |||
--[[User talk:Jugus|Jugus]] 15:31, 16 April 2009 (UTC) | |||
*Omega team, Anders was down there and she was important, as for them actualy being there that could have just been a wonderfull coincidence. | |||
*Forge vs Arbiter, the only hand-to-hand thing he did was tackling the arbiter after he lost his rifle. now we can assume that a frontline veteren like himselfe would be pretty strong and muscle has a lot of mass plus his body-armour so he just threw all of that as hard as he could, fairly low on the arb's body and caught him of balence as he did all this rather suddenly. after that he shot him in the hand to make him let go of his sword. The arbiter incapacitated him in one punch to the gut, Forge then stabbed him in the face with his combat knife (first time we have seen it used i think) and then in the chest with the sword. | |||
*Plentifull elites: were half Honour guards (an arbiter and a hierarch were present) and half field officers. this was a high prority mission for them so they put down their best. | |||
*Spartan-elite: spartans are said to be about even with major domo elites physicaly but we have seen spartans to be faster, smarter and more agile and inventive. also i think that it may be equal without the MJOLNIR which enhances them further. spartans have always kicked total ass, even the weaker SPARTAN-III units must have been at least equal to the elites or they never would have done the kind of things they did. | |||
*cryo clothes: yeah thats a litle unnecacery. they could have simply not show anyone naked...at least front on. maybe they could have not gone to anders pod untill it had fogged to all but her face which was also soon covered. and mabe the crews uniforms were cryo-tolereant which would not surprise me. | |||
All of the above bullets by Gunnery Sergeant [[User talk:Maiar|Maiar]] 23:00, 25 April 2009 (UTC) | |||
== MA5 what? == | |||
I think its the MA5C assalt rifle used in halo wars because it behaves and (i think) even looks like it. this would support something i suggested on the MA5 page; the C is not a new model but a different varient for generalised use. the B was a close-quaters weapon issued to the Pillar of Autumn's armouries because of its planned mission (im actualy a bit fuzzy on what that was but i know it would have been mostly ship-bourd) which would alos accaunt for the rarity of long-range weapons compared to the other 2 games which were along side regular marines issued with the standard sortie. | |||
Gunnery sergeant [[User talk:Maiar|Maiar]] 23:07, 25 April 2009 (UTC) | |||
:That weapon fires far faster than the MA5C. It's the MA5B - just much shinier, apparently. <div style="font-variant:small-caps"><b>[[User:Smoke.|<font color="#666666">Smoke</font>]]</b></div> 23:57, 6 May 2009 (UTC) | |||
But it still has the sound from the MA5C, which is a shame as I don't care for guns that sounds like popcorns popping. [[User talk:Baryon15|Baryon15]] 18:05, 7 May 2009 (UTC) | |||
== Sources Cleanup == | |||
This article has tons of messy references. Could someone clean it up?- <b>[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></b> 20:58, 14 May 2009 (UTC) | |||
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== UNSC Leviathan? == | |||
Under the cut content section, someone listed cut content with pictures from the concept art thread. However, the UNSC Leviathan is listed as cut content. Where is this based off of? I never heard/saw this as being cut from Halo Wars.--[[Special:Contributions/67.171.46.168|67.171.46.168]] 00:30, 11 June 2009 (UTC) | |||
:Is there any mention of said ship in Halo Wars? [[User talk:XRoadToDawnX|XRoadToDawnX]] 01:49, 11 June 2009 (UTC) | |||
:No, just the Sipirt of Fire, ships at Arcadia: The Belfast, The Texas, The Armstrong, The Pillar of Autumn, and the unnamed Covenant ships (cruisers/destryoers). And even so, they only showed the Spirit of Fire and that Covenant destroyer it ran into.--[[Special:Contributions/67.171.46.168|67.171.46.168]] 18:48, 12 June 2009 (UTC) | |||
== Spartan Miscount Problem == | |||
Isn't the answer to this whole 25 out of 28 spartans at reach thing kinda simple. The spirit of fire was considered lost with all hands, meaning the spartans were considered dead (or technically missing) by the unsc. meaning 25 out of the 28 "living" spartans were at reach. --[[Special:Contributions/67.171.46.168|67.171.46.168]] 19:47, 16 June 2009 (UTC) | |||
:The real problem is that there can't have been 28 living at that time either way. 33 surviving augmentation minus Sam, Kurt, Sheila, Maria, Cassandra and two other casualties mentioned in Fall of Reach equals 26, not 28. And that's ignoring the unconfirmed-but-probable losses of Randall and [[Unidentified Spartan-II|Unnamed Spartan (Harvest)]]. And later in FoR, five ''more'' Spartans join the 25. --[[User talk:Andrew Nagy|Andrew Nagy]] 17:53, November 1, 2009 (UTC) | |||
== Spartan Superiotiy == | |||
I editted Spartans and made the change ".... is arguably Superior to all infantry units both UNSC and Convenant." i made this beacuse of their superior speed,range,health and upgrades feel free to correct me and also comment. | |||
==Listed Twice== | |||
On this page it lists Engineers twuce one as infantry, and one as aircraft.[[User talk:Snore|Snore]] 15:25, 4 July 2009 (UTC) | |||
:Fixed.[[User talk:XRoadToDawnX|XRoadToDawnX]] 15:44, 4 July 2009 (UTC) | |||
When spartans are upgraded with laser | |||
DOes their melee damage and also range damage increase | |||
or just range [[User talk:Soviet Tez|Soviet Tez]] 08:12, 6 July 2009 (UTC) | |||
==Vandal== | |||
This page has been vandalized by some person he deleted a bunch of stuff on the article. And he wrote it over with everything wrong.[[User talk:Snore|Snore]] 23:03, 12 July 2009 (UTC) | |||
:We need a admin.--[[User talk:JacktheBlack|Jack Black]] 23:04, 12 July 2009 (UTC) | |||
I already contacted one.[[User talk:Snore|Snore]] 23:09, 12 July 2009 (UTC) | |||
::The weird thing is, someone else, somewhere else claims it's a Command and Conquer rip-off.--[[User:Werefang|<font color="#006400">'''''<u>Were</u>'''''</font>]][[User talk:Werefang|<font color="#006400">'''''<u>fan</u>g'''''</font>]] 23:11, 12 July 2009 (UTC) | |||
:::CnC did everything in RTS its like Doom and FPS and Metal Gear and stealth games. Besides its Sci-Fi its been down already, read Starships Troopers novel its from the 50's and it has zerging mechs and super soldiers and cyborg dogs.--[[User talk:JacktheBlack|Jack Black]] 23:23, 12 July 2009 (UTC) | |||
::::All of which are inherent requirements of sci fi. It's really the same logic that says all JRPGs are Final Fantasy rip-offs. There's really no such thing as a modern, original game because just about everything has been done already. If we seriously only bought games with no similarities to older games, we'd still be stuck with nothing but pong and pac-man because most games are just the modification and fixing of older ones. Or did you think that I was saying it was a "rip-off"? If this is the case, I was just pointing out the inconsistancy of selective ignorance.--[[User:Werefang|<font color="#006400">'''''<u>Were</u>'''''</font>]][[User talk:Werefang|<font color="#006400">'''''<u>fan</u>g'''''</font>]] 23:38, 12 July 2009 (UTC) | |||
The vandal has been given a six month ban. The banhammer's thirst has been quenched with blood, and has been sheathed to await its glorious return. -- <b>[[Halopedia:Administrators|<font color=indigo>Administrator</font>]] [[User:Specops306|<font color=indigo>Specops306</font>]] - ''[[User Talk:Specops306|<font color=blue>Qur'a 'Morhek</font>]]'' <sup>''[[halofanon:Operation: HOT GATES|<u><font color=purple>Honour Light Your Way!</font></u>]]''</sup></b> 23:35, 12 July 2009 (UTC) | |||
most of the stuff on this page is all questions about stuff that most of us have already had awnsers to all that stuff by playin' the game. | |||
== storyline weirdness == | |||
OK, I'm having trouble desperately trying to fan wank the storyline of this game. It's really awesome but it's like the makers quickly glossed over the game's storyline before deciding to make it Halo 3: The RTS. I don't care if an individual doesn't know everything there is to know about the Haloverse, but a company making a Halo game should. This is why I hate prequels (I'm afraid to play ODST. Already I'm seeing canoncy issues). | |||
My questions are as follows (mind you, I've only gotten past the first mission where you fight the Flood. So if anything is rectified later in the game, just tell me that I'll find out later): | |||
1) How the hell are they fighting Hunters about twenty years before they were introduced (I've never minded that issue so much with the Elites since that made no damn sense anyway, but the Hunters)? For that matter: | |||
2) How the hell are they fighting Brutes at this stage of the war!? At least with the Elites and Hunters, such a contradiction is limited only to the books. Halo 2, if I remember, heavily implies that the humans have never seen Brutes before. According to First Strike, aren't the Brutes supposed to be simply temple guards before they were "promoted" in Halo 2 to fully replace the Elites? | |||
3) The Flood. How the hell does humanity finding the Flood this early work out? I was under the impression that the Covenant didn't even know about them. | |||
4) The Arbiter is (as far as I know) on the creepy Brute/Flood planet when the Prophet orders him to bring Anders "here" to the Apex facility. In the half hour or whatever between the UNSC destroying the Scarab and the Arbiter capturing her, he Slipspaces over to Arcadia (without being detected by the Spirit of Fire or planetary defenses), lands on the planet while parking his spaceship directly over a UNSC base swarming with Marines and Spartans, and brings Anders up in that gravity beam that connects to a standard Halo 1 dropship (only Covenant starships and Phantoms have been shown to have this). Geez, and I thought Master Chief was good. What the heck was going on there? Was this like a special stealth ship that he had that was also capable of Slipspace travel or something? How did nobody detect this thing, how did he get there so fast, and why does a regular dropship have that gravity transport beam? | |||
5) Help me understand the deal with Harvest. This takes place after what this site calls the Third Battle of Harvest, which either started 5 years after the Second Battle of Harvest (which was Cole's giant fleet) or was a 5 year long battle (even though the game says the latter, I believe the former). Harvest was only partially glassed during the First Battle of Harvest (like Reach). The Third Battle involved major space battles between the Spirit of Fire (and other UNSC ships, I imagine, since UNSC ships lose in even battles against Covenant ships unless Captain Keyes is in command) and Covenant forces. By the time the first level starts, humans have pretty much won the battle and retook Harvest (possibly even destroying all the enemy's ships), but are still tracking down the Covenant ground forces near what is a major Forerunner installation. Am I anywhere near close?[[User talk:Son of God-Enel|Son of God-Enel]] 05:38, September 15, 2009 (UTC) | |||
:I see you're new, but this is not a forum. I've sent you a lengthy message explaining the story, "inconsistencies", etc. Check your user board. I hope it helps. --[[User talk:Braidenvl|"A government strong enough to give you everything you want...is strong enough to take everything you have." -Thomas Jefferson]] 22:55, September 16, 2009 (UTC) | |||
== The UNSC lost it's "coolness" == | |||
Does anyone think that the UNSC in Halo Wars has to many lasers? I mean look at the hawk, Cobra and Gremlin! they all shoot lasers, aren't the Covenant supppose to have plasma weapon, forerunners have LASERS and the UNSC to have BULLETS? I can't beleive Ensemble scrapped units like the cougar and the fox just to place these crappy excuses for vehicles in their game. The UNSC is great it's one of the best Sci-Fi governments ever invented but Halo Wars and all these Graphic novels are just killing the franchise why can't we have the same stories but in live action shorts or a short CG mini series done like the cutscens in Halo? | |||
:Since when do laser-firing weapons drop brass casings? <b>[[User:Smoke.|<span style="color:Gray; font-weight:bold; font-family:Tahoma Small Cap">Smoke</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Smoke.|<span style="color:Gray; font-weight:bold; font-family:Tahoma Small Cap">Sound off!</span>]]</sup></b> 00:41, November 12, 2009 (UTC) | |||
== Main Character == | |||
Who's the main character? Is it John Forge?--[[Special:Contributions/99.237.222.73|99.237.222.73]] 23:02, November 15, 2009 (UTC) | |||
There's several. Forge, Profressor Anders, Captain Cutter, and the Arbiter.--[[User talk:Sgt.T.N.Biscuits|Sgt.T.N.Biscuits]] 09:30, November 18, 2009 (UTC) | |||
== ATP2555 II == | |||
Maybe you should check the reason I reverted your edit the LAST time. Hint: It had nothing to do the infantry units. It's up to you to figure out the rest - and fix it before you add it. <b>[[User:Smoke.|<span style="color:Gray; font-weight:bold; font-family:Tahoma Small Cap">Smoke</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:Smoke.|<span style="color:Gray; font-weight:bold; font-family:Tahoma Small Cap">Sound off!</span>]]</sup></b> 04:10, November 22, 2009 (UTC) | |||