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So wait, were these guys just orbiting the planet for god-knows how long?  [[User:Vegerot|<span style="color:midnightblue; font-weight:bold">Vegerot</span>]] ([[User talk:Vegerot|<span style="color:grey">talk</span>]])  14:36, 7 June 2011 (EDT)!
So wait, were these guys just orbiting the planet for god-knows how long?  [[User:Vegerot|<span style="color:midnightblue; font-weight:bold">Vegerot</span>]] ([[User talk:Vegerot|<span style="color:grey">talk</span>]])  14:36, 7 June 2011 (EDT)!


They couldn't have been gone ''too'' long, since Cortana would be completely rampant (or destroyed in the case of being gone for a very long time). People, sometimes we don't need a slap in the face word from the devs to confirm stuff. Halo 3 had a cliffhanger ending with them floating toward a Forerunner planet. Then in the new trailer, they end up being sucked in to a very familiar planet with a whole new adventure ahead. That's pretty much saying "yeah, this is the same damned planet".--[[Image:PENGUIN4.gif|15px]]''[[User:FluffyEmoPenguin|<span style="color:black; font-family:Verdana">Fluffy</span><span style="color:gray; font-family:Verdana">Emo</span><span style="color:black; font-family:Verdana">Penguin</span>]]<sup><small>([[User talk:FluffyEmoPenguin|<span style="color:gray">ice quack!</span>]])''</small></sup> 15:25, 7 June 2011 (EDT)
They couldn't have been gone ''too'' long, since Cortana would be completely rampant (or destroyed in the case of being gone for a very long time). People, sometimes we don't need a slap in the face word from the devs to confirm stuff. Halo 3 had a cliffhanger ending with them floating toward a Forerunner planet. Then in the new trailer, they end up being sucked in to a very familiar planet with a whole new adventure ahead. That's pretty much saying "yeah, this is the same damned planet".--File:PENGUIN4.gif|15px]]''[[User:FluffyEmoPenguin|<span style="color:black; font-family:Verdana">Fluffy</span><span style="color:gray; font-family:Verdana">Emo</span><span style="color:black; font-family:Verdana">Penguin</span>]]<sup><small>([[User talk:FluffyEmoPenguin|<span style="color:gray">ice quack!</span>]])''</small></sup> 15:25, 7 June 2011 (EDT)


Not really, Cortana would have probably shut herself down as much as possible (i.e. Human Weakness) to avoid just that.  And about what he said about the unlikeliness that they would find ANOTHER Forerunner planet; who knows how long it's been since we last saw the Chief?  They could have been floating for CENTURIES, so it is not necessarily so improbable that they are at another planet.  Especially considering how large the Forerunner Ecume spread.  Vegerot.
Not really, Cortana would have probably shut herself down as much as possible (i.e. Human Weakness) to avoid just that.  And about what he said about the unlikeliness that they would find ANOTHER Forerunner planet; who knows how long it's been since we last saw the Chief?  They could have been floating for CENTURIES, so it is not necessarily so improbable that they are at another planet.  Especially considering how large the Forerunner Ecume spread.  Vegerot.
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I also added Trivia up there about what 343 did mess up with, but somebody removed them. -[[User:Spedster777|Spedster777]], Administrator of the Saints Row wiki. 16:46, 6 June 2011 (EDT)
I also added Trivia up there about what 343 did mess up with, but somebody removed them. -[[User:Spedster777|Spedster777]], Administrator of the Saints Row wiki. 16:46, 6 June 2011 (EDT)
:Again, we only accept information that is sourced and confirmed, otherwise it is regardled as speculation. The sidearm may very well look like the M6 but that doesn't necessarily mean its the M6G. Edit warring is unacceptable, do not resort to it or the page will be locked down. If you disagree, discuss on the talk page and make a conclusion. - [[File:Major.png|20px]] [[User:Nicmavr|<span style="color:DarkGoldenrod; font-weight:bold; font-family:Arial">Nìcmávr</span>]] <sup><span style="color:DarkGoldenrod">(</span>[[User Talk:Nicmavr|<span style="color:DarkGoldenrod; font-weight:bold">Tálk</span>]]<span style="color:DarkGoldenrod">)</span></sup> 16:51, 6 June 2011 (EDT)
:Again, we only accept information that is sourced and confirmed, otherwise it is regardled as speculation. The sidearm may very well look like the M6 but that doesn't necessarily mean its the M6G. Edit warring is unacceptable, do not resort to it or the page will be locked down. If you disagree, discuss on the talk page and make a conclusion. - [[User:Nicmavr|<span style="color:DarkGoldenrod; font-weight:bold; font-family:Arial">Nìcmávr</span>]] <sup><span style="color:DarkGoldenrod">(</span>[[User Talk:Nicmavr|<span style="color:DarkGoldenrod; font-weight:bold">Tálk</span>]]<span style="color:DarkGoldenrod">)</span></sup> 16:51, 6 June 2011 (EDT)
Is it just me or did a rocket come out of that pistol? At first I though MC was just testing it or something, but after watching it about five times, I'm pretty sure he shot a rocket that blew up the wall ahead of him. [[User talk:Andrew996|Andrew996]] 16:47, 6 June 2011 (EDT)
Is it just me or did a rocket come out of that pistol? At first I though MC was just testing it or something, but after watching it about five times, I'm pretty sure he shot a rocket that blew up the wall ahead of him. [[User talk:Andrew996|Andrew996]] 16:47, 6 June 2011 (EDT)
:Could be a tracer. Furthermore, what prevents the ''Forward Unto Dawn'' from carrying explosive M6G ammunition? Just because we never saw the pistol fire explosive rounds in ''3'' doesn't mean it can't. It's the same calibre ammo.--[[User talk:The All-knowing Sith&#39;ari|The All-knowing Sith&#39;ari]] 17:16, 6 June 2011 (EDT)
:Could be a tracer. Furthermore, what prevents the ''Forward Unto Dawn'' from carrying explosive M6G ammunition? Just because we never saw the pistol fire explosive rounds in ''3'' doesn't mean it can't. It's the same calibre ammo.--[[User talk:The All-knowing Sith&#39;ari|The All-knowing Sith&#39;ari]] 17:16, 6 June 2011 (EDT)
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[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FyEB5FhA8Q&feature=related This video is an interview with Frank], he gives some info about Halo 4 towards the end and offers a few brief tidbits concerning Master Chief's new look and mentions that the game is not immediately after Halo 3. I'm not sure how to go about adding this info to the article but I thought I'd let everyone know--[[User talk:Soul reaper|Soul reaper]] 09:45, 22 June 2011 (EDT)
[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FyEB5FhA8Q&feature=related This video is an interview with Frank], he gives some info about Halo 4 towards the end and offers a few brief tidbits concerning Master Chief's new look and mentions that the game is not immediately after Halo 3. I'm not sure how to go about adding this info to the article but I thought I'd let everyone know--[[User talk:Soul reaper|Soul reaper]] 09:45, 22 June 2011 (EDT)


:Mark VII maybe? It would have to be Mark VI in the trailer, but some point later in the game he could get Mark VII, as evidenced by the very different-looking armor on the cover picture. Honestly, it could be anything at this point. We really don't know much more than we did in 2007.--[[Image:PENGUIN4.gif|15px]]''[[User:FluffyEmoPenguin|<span style="color:black; font-family:Verdana">Fluffy</span><span style="color:gray; font-family:Verdana">Emo</span><span style="color:black; font-family:Verdana">Penguin</span>]]<sup><small>([[User talk:FluffyEmoPenguin|<span style="color:gray">ice quack!</span>]])''</small></sup> 15:41, 18 July 2011 (EDT)
:Mark VII maybe? It would have to be Mark VI in the trailer, but some point later in the game he could get Mark VII, as evidenced by the very different-looking armor on the cover picture. Honestly, it could be anything at this point. We really don't know much more than we did in 2007.--File:PENGUIN4.gif|15px]]''[[User:FluffyEmoPenguin|<span style="color:black; font-family:Verdana">Fluffy</span><span style="color:gray; font-family:Verdana">Emo</span><span style="color:black; font-family:Verdana">Penguin</span>]]<sup><small>([[User talk:FluffyEmoPenguin|<span style="color:gray">ice quack!</span>]])''</small></sup> 15:41, 18 July 2011 (EDT)
::Though Halseys journal mentions a possible Mark VII we don't have any official source confirming the existence of one. And immediately after Halo 3 would mean it's like a day later. By saying "not immediately after Halo 3" basically means some time has passed since then and we all know John was in cryo for at least four years as seen in Halo Legends. <span style="color:green;">[[User:Halofan1234|1234fansofHalo]]</span> 15:51, 18 July 2011 (EDT)
::Though Halseys journal mentions a possible Mark VII we don't have any official source confirming the existence of one. And immediately after Halo 3 would mean it's like a day later. By saying "not immediately after Halo 3" basically means some time has passed since then and we all know John was in cryo for at least four years as seen in Halo Legends. <span style="color:green;">[[User:Halofan1234|1234fansofHalo]]</span> 15:51, 18 July 2011 (EDT)


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== Mendicant Bias==
== Mendicant Bias==
Can the new enemy be the rampant forerunner AI [[Medicant_Bias|Mendicant Bias]]? --[[User:Rodri8032|<span style="color:red;">8</span><span style="color:darkorange;">0</span><span style="color:orange;">3</span><span style="color:gold;">2</span>]] 15:52, 2 July 2011 (EDT)
Can the new enemy be the rampant forerunner AI [[Mendicant Bias]]? --[[User:Rodri8032|<span style="color:red;">8</span><span style="color:darkorange;">0</span><span style="color:orange;">3</span><span style="color:gold;">2</span>]] 15:52, 2 July 2011 (EDT)


:It could be anything. We have no idea at all at this point. Everything we know if on the page already. --<span style="color:mediumpurple;">[[User:DKong|DKong]] <sup>[[User_talk:DKong|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/DKong|Cont]]</sup></span> 15:56, 2 July 2011 (EDT)
:It could be anything. We have no idea at all at this point. Everything we know if on the page already. --<span style="color:mediumpurple;">[[User:DKong|DKong]] <sup>[[User_talk:DKong|Talk]] [[Special:Contributions/DKong|Cont]]</sup></span> 15:56, 2 July 2011 (EDT)


::Well, the last Halo 3 terminal shows that Mendicant Bias is no longer on the Flood's side. It's unlikely that he would be your enemy because then the entire game would be about fighting Forerunner sentinels, and they wouldn't do that. They know we need blood...--[[Image:PENGUIN4.gif|15px]]''[[User:FluffyEmoPenguin|<span style="color:black; font-family:Verdana">Fluffy</span><span style="color:gray; font-family:Verdana">Emo</span><span style="color:black; font-family:Verdana">Penguin</span>]]<sup><small>([[User talk:FluffyEmoPenguin|<span style="color:gray">ice quack!</span>]])''</small></sup> 16:04, 2 August 2011 (EDT)
::Well, the last Halo 3 terminal shows that Mendicant Bias is no longer on the Flood's side. It's unlikely that he would be your enemy because then the entire game would be about fighting Forerunner sentinels, and they wouldn't do that. They know we need blood...--File:PENGUIN4.gif|15px]]''[[User:FluffyEmoPenguin|<span style="color:black; font-family:Verdana">Fluffy</span><span style="color:gray; font-family:Verdana">Emo</span><span style="color:black; font-family:Verdana">Penguin</span>]]<sup><small>([[User talk:FluffyEmoPenguin|<span style="color:gray">ice quack!</span>]])''</small></sup> 16:04, 2 August 2011 (EDT)


== 343 Team==
== 343 Team==
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:::Since some guys from Retro Studios are in it, it makes me think that we might be solving some Forerunner puzzles inside the Legendary Planet while we're fighting enemies. --[[User:XSuperGamer|<span style="color:#FFD700">'''''X'''''</span><span style="color:#FF7518">'''''Super'''''</span><span style="color:#CE0000">'''''Gamer'''''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:XSuperGamer|<span style="color:#303030">'''''Talk'''''</span>]]</sup> 16:18, 13 August 2011 (EDT)
:::Since some guys from Retro Studios are in it, it makes me think that we might be solving some Forerunner puzzles inside the Legendary Planet while we're fighting enemies. --[[User:XSuperGamer|<span style="color:#FFD700">'''''X'''''</span><span style="color:#FF7518">'''''Super'''''</span><span style="color:#CE0000">'''''Gamer'''''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:XSuperGamer|<span style="color:#303030">'''''Talk'''''</span>]]</sup> 16:18, 13 August 2011 (EDT)


::::That's like saying the only thing Blizzard employees can make are MMOs, when they've proven themselves very adaptable in other genres. It doesn't necessarily follow. I'm sure whatever 343i have cooking will be of a high standard, whatever it is, regardless of where the people working on it came from. -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 22:44, 14 August 2011 (EDT)
::::That's like saying the only thing Blizzard employees can make are MMOs, when they've proven themselves very adaptable in other genres. It doesn't necessarily follow. I'm sure whatever 343i have cooking will be of a high standard, whatever it is, regardless of where the people working on it came from. -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 22:44, 14 August 2011 (EDT)


:: Well actually we don't know who the composer is yet because as of now the job title merely states "audio director". But since Marty was also audio director, and most video game audio directors end up being composers (besides, they wouldn't announce the audio director before the composer) it's very likely that the composer for Castlevania will be the composer for Halo 4.
:: Well actually we don't know who the composer is yet because as of now the job title merely states "audio director". But since Marty was also audio director, and most video game audio directors end up being composers (besides, they wouldn't announce the audio director before the composer) it's very likely that the composer for Castlevania will be the composer for Halo 4.
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I just uploaded all of those concept images:  
I just uploaded all of those concept images:  


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So should we incorporate these into the gallery?--[[User:Brute Honour Guard|<span style="color:red">Brute Honour Guard</span>]] [[Image:HGBrute.jpg|20px]] ([[User talk:Brute Honour Guard|<span style="color:orange">"Talk"</span>]]) 15:07, 28 August 2011 (EDT)
So should we incorporate these into the gallery?--[[User:Brute Honour Guard|<span style="color:red">Brute Honour Guard</span>]] File:HGBrute.jpg|20px]] ([[User talk:Brute Honour Guard|<span style="color:orange">"Talk"</span>]]) 15:07, 28 August 2011 (EDT)


== Line Installation? ==
== Line Installation? ==
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[[User talk:SPARTAN-225|SPARTAN-225]] 22:32, 1 October 2011 (EDT)
[[User talk:SPARTAN-225|SPARTAN-225]] 22:32, 1 October 2011 (EDT)


:Not at all. Just because he doesn't like it doesn't mean he's not good at it. He's a Spartan - built for battle, bred for war. Trained as a child to be the best soldier ever fielded by the human race, equipped with technology a century ahead of its time. Plus, this is ''John'' -  the man who was chosen for his luck. He is the best at virtually everything he does. And that is why we love him. -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 23:28, 1 October 2011 (EDT)
:Not at all. Just because he doesn't like it doesn't mean he's not good at it. He's a Spartan - built for battle, bred for war. Trained as a child to be the best soldier ever fielded by the human race, equipped with technology a century ahead of its time. Plus, this is ''John'' -  the man who was chosen for his luck. He is the best at virtually everything he does. And that is why we love him. -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 23:28, 1 October 2011 (EDT)


:Not to sound like a total suck up, but I had a few tears after reading that depiction.  Well done Specops.  By the by: it is stated by John in the books that every Spartan had zero-gee training but only a few were ever truly comfortable in space. --[[User talk:Bruce2401|Bruce2401]] 04:11, 2 October 2011 (EDT)
:Not to sound like a total suck up, but I had a few tears after reading that depiction.  Well done Specops.  By the by: it is stated by John in the books that every Spartan had zero-gee training but only a few were ever truly comfortable in space. --[[User talk:Bruce2401|Bruce2401]] 04:11, 2 October 2011 (EDT)
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This got me thinking for awhile. If John and Cortana are stranded on an unknown Forerunner planet out of reach from human and ally Covenant contact, how exactly are weapons going to play out? Will most of the human and Covenant weapons be scrapped and exchanged with Forerunner tech due to the only possible location to find weapons that players would recognize being in the wreckage of the Dawn? I'm surprised that any haven't found too many discussions regarding this. --[[User talk:Radical Edward2|RadicalEdward2]] 14:39, 20 October 2011 (EDT)
This got me thinking for awhile. If John and Cortana are stranded on an unknown Forerunner planet out of reach from human and ally Covenant contact, how exactly are weapons going to play out? Will most of the human and Covenant weapons be scrapped and exchanged with Forerunner tech due to the only possible location to find weapons that players would recognize being in the wreckage of the Dawn? I'm surprised that any haven't found too many discussions regarding this. --[[User talk:Radical Edward2|RadicalEdward2]] 14:39, 20 October 2011 (EDT)
:I dont care as long as theres stickys. <span style="font-size:16px; font-family:Verdana;">[[User:BushWookieCamper|<span style="color:#536872;">Bush</span><span style="color:#5F9EA0;">Wookie</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:BushWookieCamper|<span style="color:#91A3B0;">Camper</span>]]</sup></span> 14:47, 20 October 2011 (EDT)
:I dont care as long as theres stickys. <span style="font-size:16px; font-family:Verdana;">[[User:BushWookieCamper|<span style="color:#536872;">Bush</span><span style="color:#5F9EA0;">Wookie</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:BushWookieCamper|<span style="color:#91A3B0;">Camper</span>]]</sup></span> 14:47, 20 October 2011 (EDT)
::I like the idea that the player would have to scavenge for weapons in the Dawn, until they make contact with friendly forces. If they go the route ODST went, and made an enormous landscape hub world, then you might have to return to the Dawn periodically to resupply between missions, unlocking new parts of the Dawn as Cortana gets around to it. I also like the idea of new weapons - not ''too'' new, of course, since there are some arsenal staples that are simply a must. The Warthog, for example, and the assault rifle. And, of course, anything that has been canonically replaced can still be accessed on the Dawn. We know that Johnson and the Arbiter took samples of the others' weaponry to familiarise themselves with, so older Covenant weapons would plausible be available still. -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 18:47, 20 October 2011 (EDT)
::I like the idea that the player would have to scavenge for weapons in the Dawn, until they make contact with friendly forces. If they go the route ODST went, and made an enormous landscape hub world, then you might have to return to the Dawn periodically to resupply between missions, unlocking new parts of the Dawn as Cortana gets around to it. I also like the idea of new weapons - not ''too'' new, of course, since there are some arsenal staples that are simply a must. The Warthog, for example, and the assault rifle. And, of course, anything that has been canonically replaced can still be accessed on the Dawn. We know that Johnson and the Arbiter took samples of the others' weaponry to familiarise themselves with, so older Covenant weapons would plausible be available still. -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 18:47, 20 October 2011 (EDT)


It is important to remember that we have no idea what this planet ''is'' exactly. We still don't know what the interior of Onyx is like (a pressumably similar place). That's where I think the "ressonant connections" with Halo 4 will be in Glasslands. We're not even entirely sure what the shield worlds were used for. We assume they were used to shield the Forerunners from the Halos, yet none of the Forerunners survived. So what WERE they used for?  
It is important to remember that we have no idea what this planet ''is'' exactly. We still don't know what the interior of Onyx is like (a pressumably similar place). That's where I think the "ressonant connections" with Halo 4 will be in Glasslands. We're not even entirely sure what the shield worlds were used for. We assume they were used to shield the Forerunners from the Halos, yet none of the Forerunners survived. So what WERE they used for?  
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I'm not sure, it would be interesting to see Forerunner weaponry.  But it would be kinda overpowered, more like REALLY overpowered.  I also don't see how a human and a weak ancilla could operate Forerunner weaponry to its full extent (for example, we see that Forerunner can shape their hard-light weapons mid-shit, Cortana can defiantly not calculate operations that quickly). Vegerot goes RAWR! [[File:Icon-Vegito2.gif|21px]] [[User:Vegerot|<span style="color:midnightblue; font-weight:bold">Vegerot</span>]] ([[User talk:Vegerot|<span style="color:grey">talk</span>]])  22:13, 22 October 2011 (EDT)!
I'm not sure, it would be interesting to see Forerunner weaponry.  But it would be kinda overpowered, more like REALLY overpowered.  I also don't see how a human and a weak ancilla could operate Forerunner weaponry to its full extent (for example, we see that Forerunner can shape their hard-light weapons mid-shit, Cortana can defiantly not calculate operations that quickly). Vegerot goes RAWR! [[User:Vegerot|<span style="color:midnightblue; font-weight:bold">Vegerot</span>]] ([[User talk:Vegerot|<span style="color:grey">talk</span>]])  22:13, 22 October 2011 (EDT)!


== Release Date ==
== Release Date ==
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Hey guys, I was at GameStop buying Skyrim and I decided to look through the book they keep out front that has all the release dates of future games in it and lo and behold the first thing that I happened to spot was the title ''Halo 4''. It said that it was being released on November 2nd, 2012. This information may not have been released publicly but maybe given to retail stores and GameStop just so happened to display it in this handy-dandy book. I put in the necessary information to the necessary pages but I'm not sure how to cite it. I just used the Citation Needed template for now. If anyone could know what to change it to that would be greatly appreciated! Thanks! - [[User:Iota Eta Pi|<span style="font-family:font; color:#B80000;">Ιι</span>]] [[User talk:Iota Eta Pi|<span style="font-family:font; color:#B80000;">Ηη</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Iota Eta Pi|<span style="font-family:font; color:#B80000;">Ππ</span>]] 22:00, 2 January 2012 (EST)
Hey guys, I was at GameStop buying Skyrim and I decided to look through the book they keep out front that has all the release dates of future games in it and lo and behold the first thing that I happened to spot was the title ''Halo 4''. It said that it was being released on November 2nd, 2012. This information may not have been released publicly but maybe given to retail stores and GameStop just so happened to display it in this handy-dandy book. I put in the necessary information to the necessary pages but I'm not sure how to cite it. I just used the Citation Needed template for now. If anyone could know what to change it to that would be greatly appreciated! Thanks! - [[User:Iota Eta Pi|<span style="font-family:font; color:#B80000;">Ιι</span>]] [[User talk:Iota Eta Pi|<span style="font-family:font; color:#B80000;">Ηη</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Iota Eta Pi|<span style="font-family:font; color:#B80000;">Ππ</span>]] 22:00, 2 January 2012 (EST)


:As far as I know, the industry does that kind of thing often, picking a "likely" release date as a placeholder until the official date is set. Halo has a history of September/November release dates, so it's a reasonable guess. I don't know that they're privy to information the fans are not, but until we have official confirmation we should regard it as just a rumour. -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 22:05, 2 January 2012 (EST)
:As far as I know, the industry does that kind of thing often, picking a "likely" release date as a placeholder until the official date is set. Halo has a history of September/November release dates, so it's a reasonable guess. I don't know that they're privy to information the fans are not, but until we have official confirmation we should regard it as just a rumour. -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 22:05, 2 January 2012 (EST)


::Well any release date is always speculative. The point being that it is ''set'' to be released on that date, but probably wont ''end up'' being released then. [[User:Iota Eta Pi|<span style="font-family:font; color:#B80000;">Ιι</span>]] [[User talk:Iota Eta Pi|<span style="font-family:font; color:#B80000;">Ηη</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Iota Eta Pi|<span style="font-family:font; color:#B80000;">Ππ</span>]] 22:11, 2 January 2012 (EST)
::Well any release date is always speculative. The point being that it is ''set'' to be released on that date, but probably wont ''end up'' being released then. [[User:Iota Eta Pi|<span style="font-family:font; color:#B80000;">Ιι</span>]] [[User talk:Iota Eta Pi|<span style="font-family:font; color:#B80000;">Ηη</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Iota Eta Pi|<span style="font-family:font; color:#B80000;">Ππ</span>]] 22:11, 2 January 2012 (EST)


:::I agree with Specops. [http://www.ebgames.ca/xbox-360/halo-4/309751 Gamestop.ca] actually lists the release date as September 1 - which is pretty optimistic considering we haven't seen any real media since the announcement trailer. It's just a guess so they can write an actual date instead of "Holiday 2012"--[[File:Emblem 1.jpg|20px]][[User:Rusty-112|<span style="background:blue;font-size:12pt;color:white;">''' Rusty '''</span>]][[UserWiki:Rusty-112|<span style="background:blue;font-size:12pt;color:white;">'''- 112 '''</span>]] 22:14, 2 January 2012 (EST)
:::I agree with Specops. [http://www.ebgames.ca/xbox-360/halo-4/309751 Gamestop.ca] actually lists the release date as September 1 - which is pretty optimistic considering we haven't seen any real media since the announcement trailer. It's just a guess so they can write an actual date instead of "Holiday 2012"--[[File:Emblem 1.jpg|20px]][[User:Rusty-112|<span style="background:blue;font-size:12pt;color:white;">''' Rusty '''</span>]]UserWiki:Rusty-112|<span style="background:blue;font-size:12pt;color:white;">'''- 112 '''</span>]] 22:14, 2 January 2012 (EST)


::::Well I'm not sure then... Maybe just keep the Citation Needed template up? [[User:Iota Eta Pi|<span style="font-family:font; color:#B80000;">Ιι</span>]] [[User talk:Iota Eta Pi|<span style="font-family:font; color:#B80000;">Ηη</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Iota Eta Pi|<span style="font-family:font; color:#B80000;">Ππ</span>]] 22:17, 2 January 2012 (EST)
::::Well I'm not sure then... Maybe just keep the Citation Needed template up? [[User:Iota Eta Pi|<span style="font-family:font; color:#B80000;">Ιι</span>]] [[User talk:Iota Eta Pi|<span style="font-family:font; color:#B80000;">Ηη</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Iota Eta Pi|<span style="font-family:font; color:#B80000;">Ππ</span>]] 22:17, 2 January 2012 (EST)
:::::{{Quote|This article is about an upcoming game. Editors must cite sources for all contributions to this article. Edits that do not follow this standard will be reverted without notice. For more information, see the Citation Policy.|Top of page.}}
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:::::If it is not cited, then it will be removed.--[[File:Pipboy300.jpg|20px]] [[User:Spartacus|<span style="Color:black; font-family: Monotype Corsiva; font-size: 130%">Commander Spartacus</span>]] ~ '''''[[User talk:Spartacus|<span style="color:grey">ŤДŁĶ</span>]] ~ [[Special:Contributions/Spartacus|<span style="color:grey">ĈʘŃŤṜǏΒŨŤǏʘŃŞ</span>]] ~ [[Special:EmailUser/Spartacus|<span style="color:grey">ĚṂДǏŁ</span>]]''''' 11:42, 3 January 2012 (EST)
:::::If it is not cited, then it will be removed.-- [[User:Spartacus|<span style="Color:black; font-family: Monotype Corsiva; font-size: 130%">Commander Spartacus</span>]] ~ '''''[[User talk:Spartacus|<span style="color:grey">ŤДŁĶ</span>]] ~ [[Special:Contributions/Spartacus|<span style="color:grey">ĈʘŃŤṜǏΒŨŤǏʘŃŞ</span>]] ~ [[Special:EmailUser/Spartacus|<span style="color:grey">ĚṂДǏŁ</span>]]''''' 11:42, 3 January 2012 (EST)
::::::Citation Needed doesn't count as citing it? I guess that makes sense but this is ''legit'' information... Is GameStop allowed to make up a release date for the game? [[User:Iota Eta Pi|<span style="font-family:font; color:#B80000;">Ιι</span>]] [[User talk:Iota Eta Pi|<span style="font-family:font; color:#B80000;">Ηη</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Iota Eta Pi|<span style="font-family:font; color:#B80000;">Ππ</span>]] 15:30, 3 January 2012 (EST)
::::::Citation Needed doesn't count as citing it? I guess that makes sense but this is ''legit'' information... Is GameStop allowed to make up a release date for the game? [[User:Iota Eta Pi|<span style="font-family:font; color:#B80000;">Ιι</span>]] [[User talk:Iota Eta Pi|<span style="font-family:font; color:#B80000;">Ηη</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Iota Eta Pi|<span style="font-family:font; color:#B80000;">Ππ</span>]] 15:30, 3 January 2012 (EST)


:::::::Yes. Yes they are. So far, the only timeframe we have is the 2012 "holiday" season, from a Waypoint update, which is quite sufficient for now. -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 16:05, 3 January 2012 (EST)
:::::::Yes. Yes they are. So far, the only timeframe we have is the 2012 "holiday" season, from a Waypoint update, which is quite sufficient for now. -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 16:05, 3 January 2012 (EST)


::::::::I see... This is disappointing... [[User:Iota Eta Pi|<span style="font-family:font; color:#B80000;">Ιι</span>]] [[User talk:Iota Eta Pi|<span style="font-family:font; color:#B80000;">Ηη</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Iota Eta Pi|<span style="font-family:font; color:#B80000;">Ππ</span>]] 19:54, 3 January 2012 (EST)
::::::::I see... This is disappointing... [[User:Iota Eta Pi|<span style="font-family:font; color:#B80000;">Ιι</span>]] [[User talk:Iota Eta Pi|<span style="font-family:font; color:#B80000;">Ηη</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Iota Eta Pi|<span style="font-family:font; color:#B80000;">Ππ</span>]] 19:54, 3 January 2012 (EST)
:::::::::You shoulda taken a picture. Vegerot goes RAWR! [[File:Icon-Vegito2.gif|21px]] [[User:Vegerot|<span style="color:midnightblue; font-weight:bold">Vegerot</span>]] ([[User talk:Vegerot|<span style="color:grey">talk</span>]])  20:49, 4 January 2012 (EST)!
:::::::::You shoulda taken a picture. Vegerot goes RAWR! [[User:Vegerot|<span style="color:midnightblue; font-weight:bold">Vegerot</span>]] ([[User talk:Vegerot|<span style="color:grey">talk</span>]])  20:49, 4 January 2012 (EST)!


::::::::::Still this is the closest we have [[User talk:1-10|1-10]] 22:59, 5 January 2012 (EST)
::::::::::Still this is the closest we have [[User talk:1-10|1-10]] 22:59, 5 January 2012 (EST)
:::::::::::See my previous comment.--[[File:Pipboy300.jpg|20px]] [[User:Spartacus|<span style="Color:black; font-family: Monotype Corsiva; font-size: 130%">Commander Spartacus</span>]] ~ '''''[[User talk:Spartacus|<span style="color:grey">ŤДŁĶ</span>]] ~ [[Special:Contributions/Spartacus|<span style="color:grey">ĈʘŃŤṜǏΒŨŤǏʘŃŞ</span>]] ~ [[Special:EmailUser/Spartacus|<span style="color:grey">ĚṂДǏŁ</span>]]''''' 23:08, 5 January 2012 (EST)
:::::::::::See my previous comment.-- [[User:Spartacus|<span style="Color:black; font-family: Monotype Corsiva; font-size: 130%">Commander Spartacus</span>]] ~ '''''[[User talk:Spartacus|<span style="color:grey">ŤДŁĶ</span>]] ~ [[Special:Contributions/Spartacus|<span style="color:grey">ĈʘŃŤṜǏΒŨŤǏʘŃŞ</span>]] ~ [[Special:EmailUser/Spartacus|<span style="color:grey">ĚṂДǏŁ</span>]]''''' 23:08, 5 January 2012 (EST)


:::::::::::GameStop is not an official party of the franchise nor it is one of the press. As such, anything they announce without representation from an official party shall be considered as a speculation.— <span style="font-size:16px; font-family:OrbitronMedium;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span> 07:11, 6 January 2012 (EST)
:::::::::::GameStop is not an official party of the franchise nor it is one of the press. As such, anything they announce without representation from an official party shall be considered as a speculation.— <span style="font-size:16px; font-family:OrbitronMedium;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span> 07:11, 6 January 2012 (EST)
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::::Yeah, I just realized that...You in the UK? Any info on the figures? I'm constantly checking at this point but haven't found anything posted.--[[User talk:Killamint|Killamint]] 18:50, 25 January 2012 (EST)
::::Yeah, I just realized that...You in the UK? Any info on the figures? I'm constantly checking at this point but haven't found anything posted.--[[User talk:Killamint|Killamint]] 18:50, 25 January 2012 (EST)
:::::Russia, GMT+4, and no info on Waypoint yet. [[User talk:PatrickRus|PatrickRus]] 19:18, 25 January 2012 (EST)
:::::Russia, GMT+4, and no info on Waypoint yet. [[User talk:PatrickRus|PatrickRus]] 19:18, 25 January 2012 (EST)
Guys, just a note, try not to social on talk pages, people might remove it because they are not "contributive"... I would buy the new Warthog replica :P It looks pretty cool in FM4. —[[User:Spartan331|<span style="color:silver;">S331</span>]] [[File:Bubbleshieldhud.svg|14px]]<sub>([[User talk:Spartan331|COM]] • [[Special:Contributions/Spartan331|Mission Log]] • [[User profile:Spartan331|Profile]])</sub> 21:24, 25 January 2012 (EST)
Guys, just a note, try not to social on talk pages, people might remove it because they are not "contributive"... I would buy the new Warthog replica :P It looks pretty cool in FM4. —[[User:Spartan331|<span style="color:silver;">S331</span>]] [[File:Bubbleshieldhud.svg|14px]]<sub>([[User talk:Spartan331|COM]] • [[Special:Contributions/Spartan331|Mission Log]] • [[UserProfile:Spartan331|Profile]])</sub> 21:24, 25 January 2012 (EST)
:I were not actually trying... but anyway, 25th should be everywhere now, and still no info about figures? I googled, and the Toy Fair is 24-26. So we still have 1 day. As we get some pictures, could anybody post links somewhere here? [[User talk:PatrickRus|PatrickRus]] 21:47, 25 January 2012 (EST)
:I were not actually trying... but anyway, 25th should be everywhere now, and still no info about figures? I googled, and the Toy Fair is 24-26. So we still have 1 day. As we get some pictures, could anybody post links somewhere here? [[User talk:PatrickRus|PatrickRus]] 21:47, 25 January 2012 (EST)
::@''Spartan331'' Okay you say try not to "social"-lize, yet you switch-up and say "I would buy the new Warthog replica"? Isn't that socializing? If I had info to contribute then I would but right now I have nothing and can only wait until someone post something. Not angry at you dude but seriously, this entire discussion page is about socializing about whats to come in Halo 4 based off our speculation. Am I wrong? Once official information has been released it goes in the article.--[[User talk:Killamint|Killamint]] 13:07, 26 January 2012 (EST)
::@''Spartan331'' Okay you say try not to "social"-lize, yet you switch-up and say "I would buy the new Warthog replica"? Isn't that socializing? If I had info to contribute then I would but right now I have nothing and can only wait until someone post something. Not angry at you dude but seriously, this entire discussion page is about socializing about whats to come in Halo 4 based off our speculation. Am I wrong? Once official information has been released it goes in the article.--[[User talk:Killamint|Killamint]] 13:07, 26 January 2012 (EST)
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:::@''Bdgroot-117'', ''Killamint'', ''PatrickRus'', ''Alex T Snow'': He means the way you are talking, wishing what is going to be in the game, using "LOL", etc. This isn't the point of a talk page. A talk page is meant to ''discuss'' the article and nothing more. If you want to talk to each other about what action figures you're hoping will be made, then take it to your talk page or message each other through the message board. This isn't the place.--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}}
:::@''Bdgroot-117'', ''Killamint'', ''PatrickRus'', ''Alex T Snow'': He means the way you are talking, wishing what is going to be in the game, using "LOL", etc. This isn't the point of a talk page. A talk page is meant to ''discuss'' the article and nothing more. If you want to talk to each other about what action figures you're hoping will be made, then take it to your talk page or message each other through the message board. This isn't the place.--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}}
::::Oh, yeah I totally agree with you there Spartacus. :) [[User talk:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 20:27, 26 January 2012 (EST)
::::Oh, yeah I totally agree with you there Spartacus. :) [[User talk:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 20:27, 26 January 2012 (EST)
::::Exactly my point. Thanks for clearing it up, Spartacus. What I meant was talk pages are for discussing topics that would contribute to the article, and not talking about what you want or hope in the game. Sorry if I confused you guys. —[[User:Spartan331|<span style="color:silver;">S331</span>]] [[File:Bubbleshieldhud.svg|14px]]<sub>([[User talk:Spartan331|COM]] • [[Special:Contributions/Spartan331|Mission Log]] • [[User profile:Spartan331|Profile]])</sub> 21:40, 26 January 2012 (EST)
::::Exactly my point. Thanks for clearing it up, Spartacus. What I meant was talk pages are for discussing topics that would contribute to the article, and not talking about what you want or hope in the game. Sorry if I confused you guys. —[[User:Spartan331|<span style="color:silver;">S331</span>]] [[File:Bubbleshieldhud.svg|14px]]<sub>([[User talk:Spartan331|COM]] • [[Special:Contributions/Spartan331|Mission Log]] • [[UserProfile:Spartan331|Profile]])</sub> 21:40, 26 January 2012 (EST)
::::Oh, and the reason why I "switch-up and say 'I would buy the new Warthog replica'" is because I don't want to sound like an a-hole bossing people around, so I decided to talk about what you guys were talking about. Now I sound like a hypocrite. Maybe I should have sounded like an a-hole bossing people around instead. ): —[[User:Spartan331|<span style="color:silver;">S331</span>]] [[File:Bubbleshieldhud.svg|14px]]<sub>([[User talk:Spartan331|COM]] • [[Special:Contributions/Spartan331|Mission Log]] • [[User profile:Spartan331|Profile]])</sub> 21:51, 26 January 2012 (EST)
::::Oh, and the reason why I "switch-up and say 'I would buy the new Warthog replica'" is because I don't want to sound like an a-hole bossing people around, so I decided to talk about what you guys were talking about. Now I sound like a hypocrite. Maybe I should have sounded like an a-hole bossing people around instead. ): —[[User:Spartan331|<span style="color:silver;">S331</span>]] [[File:Bubbleshieldhud.svg|14px]]<sub>([[User talk:Spartan331|COM]] • [[Special:Contributions/Spartan331|Mission Log]] • [[UserProfile:Spartan331|Profile]])</sub> 21:51, 26 January 2012 (EST)
:::::Hahahaha :) [[User talk:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 01:23, 27 January 2012 (EST)
:::::Hahahaha :) [[User talk:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 01:23, 27 January 2012 (EST)


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[http://www.everyeye.it/public/immagini/13022012/r_Halo-4_notizia.jpg img--->]
[http://www.everyeye.it/public/immagini/13022012/r_Halo-4_notizia.jpg img--->]
:Nice image. I'll see what I can do.--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}}
:Nice image. I'll see what I can do.--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}}
::Alright, I've uploaded the [[:File:Waypoint H4 MC.jpg|image]].--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}}
::Alright, I've uploaded the image.--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}}


::Keep it mind that this is a prototype, not the actual figure yet. :) —[[User:Spartan331|<span style="color:silver;">S331</span>]] [[File:Bubbleshieldhud.svg|14px]]<sub>([[User talk:Spartan331|COM]] • [[Special:Contributions/Spartan331|Mission Log]] • [[User profile:Spartan331|Profile]])</sub> 10:44, 13 February 2012 (EST)
::Keep it mind that this is a prototype, not the actual figure yet. :) —[[User:Spartan331|<span style="color:silver;">S331</span>]] [[File:Bubbleshieldhud.svg|14px]]<sub>([[User talk:Spartan331|COM]] • [[Special:Contributions/Spartan331|Mission Log]] • [[UserProfile:Spartan331|Profile]])</sub> 10:44, 13 February 2012 (EST)


:::The helmet looks very [[The Package]]-y, I like it :) [[User talk:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 15:49, 13 February 2012 (EST)
:::The helmet looks very [[The Package (animated short)|The Package]]-y, I like it :) [[User talk:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] 15:49, 13 February 2012 (EST)


::::Is it just me or does this toy look a little altered from the armor in the awakening trailer? Like the shoulder plates are low as heck, the rear area rises too high above the shoulders, and overall Master Chief appears "under-armored". Seems underdone. I know its a prototype but still.--[[User talk:Killamint|Killamint]] 17:03, 13 February 2012 (EST)
::::Is it just me or does this toy look a little altered from the armor in the awakening trailer? Like the shoulder plates are low as heck, the rear area rises too high above the shoulders, and overall Master Chief appears "under-armored". Seems underdone. I know its a prototype but still.--[[User talk:Killamint|Killamint]] 17:03, 13 February 2012 (EST)
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Well the trailer has to be Mark VI right? It has the same gash. [[User talk:Jac0bBau3r1995|Jac0bBau3r1995]] 21:17, 17 February 2012 (EST)
Well the trailer has to be Mark VI right? It has the same gash. [[User talk:Jac0bBau3r1995|Jac0bBau3r1995]] 21:17, 17 February 2012 (EST)


:The trailer, and the figure, is representative. For example, the Halo 3 reveal trailer, with the Chief emerging from the dust to see the Ark never happened that way in-game. I was disappointed about that, but that's a conversation for another talk page. My point is that it's meant to show us exciting stuff to get us excited, not represent the game in its final format. I'm sure we'll see how the Chief gets the new armour, how it gets the scar, and that it will make sense. -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 22:47, 17 February 2012 (EST)
:The trailer, and the figure, is representative. For example, the Halo 3 reveal trailer, with the Chief emerging from the dust to see the Ark never happened that way in-game. I was disappointed about that, but that's a conversation for another talk page. My point is that it's meant to show us exciting stuff to get us excited, not represent the game in its final format. I'm sure we'll see how the Chief gets the new armour, how it gets the scar, and that it will make sense. -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 22:47, 17 February 2012 (EST)


::In [http://halo.xbox.com/blogs/post/2011/06/08/343-Sparkast-004-E3-Edition.aspx ''343 Sparkast 004''], Frank O'Connor said that the events depicted in the ''Awakening'' trailer are ''"definitely not a part of the real game story"''. As Specops has stated above, the trailer depicts a (possibly very) loose abstraction of what really happens in the game. As 343i employees have stated a few times now, most notably in [http://halo.xbox.com/blogs/Headlines/post/2012/02/15/The-Halo-Bulletin-21512.aspx ''The Halo Bulletin: 2.15.12''], John's appearance will undergo some drastic changes to make him seem more human and relatable. This does not mean that the Mark VI's appearance has been drastically retconned; it simply means that his armor looks different, which is much more likely to mean that he gets a new suit at some point. --[[User talk:Braidenvl|Courage never dies.]] 16:50, 18 February 2012 (EST)
::In [http://halo.xbox.com/blogs/post/2011/06/08/343-Sparkast-004-E3-Edition.aspx ''343 Sparkast 004''], Frank O'Connor said that the events depicted in the ''Awakening'' trailer are ''"definitely not a part of the real game story"''. As Specops has stated above, the trailer depicts a (possibly very) loose abstraction of what really happens in the game. As 343i employees have stated a few times now, most notably in [http://halo.xbox.com/blogs/Headlines/post/2012/02/15/The-Halo-Bulletin-21512.aspx ''The Halo Bulletin: 2.15.12''], John's appearance will undergo some drastic changes to make him seem more human and relatable. This does not mean that the Mark VI's appearance has been drastically retconned; it simply means that his armor looks different, which is much more likely to mean that he gets a new suit at some point. --[[User talk:Braidenvl|Courage never dies.]] 16:50, 18 February 2012 (EST)