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==Plausibility== | ==Plausibility== | ||
Am I the only one who finds this whole "Forerunners wiped out the Precursors" thing very implausible? First, I'm baffled as to why everyone assumes that the single line of "I am the last of those your kind rose up against and ruthlessly destroyed" equates to "The Forerunners wiped out the Precursors in a massive war". What people seem to be forgetting is that Precursors were technologically advanced to the point of near-godhood, being worshiped by the Forerunners as the prime example of life. How could the Forerunners, an tiny, insignificant race in comparison, conceivably wage war against such a species, let alone win and wipe them from the universe? I would take the Prisoner's words with a pinch of salt; it might claim that it is the last Precursor, that doesn't mean it is. If the implications that the Prisoner is in some way related to Gravemind are true, even more so. Just my two cents on the whole affair. - | Am I the only one who finds this whole "Forerunners wiped out the Precursors" thing very implausible? First, I'm baffled as to why everyone assumes that the single line of "I am the last of those your kind rose up against and ruthlessly destroyed" equates to "The Forerunners wiped out the Precursors in a massive war". What people seem to be forgetting is that Precursors were technologically advanced to the point of near-godhood, being worshiped by the Forerunners as the prime example of life. How could the Forerunners, an tiny, insignificant race in comparison, conceivably wage war against such a species, let alone win and wipe them from the universe? I would take the Prisoner's words with a pinch of salt; it might claim that it is the last Precursor, that doesn't mean it is. If the implications that the Prisoner is in some way related to Gravemind are true, even more so. Just my two cents on the whole affair. - [[User:Halo-343|<span style="color: purple; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 128%;">'''Halo-343'''</span>]] [[User talk:Halo-343|<font color="green">('''Talk''')</font>]] 17:48, 6 March 2011 (EST) | ||
:Given that [[Human-Covenant War|this isn't the first war in Halo where a technologically inferior]] [[Flood-Forerunner War|race defeated a superior one]]... Well, it's true that to me too it sounds implausible, but I don't own the book, and from the looks of here it sounds like it was just mentioned once in a throwaway line. Hopefully they'll explain more about how that could happen, because their own technogical divide here looks to be very wide indeed. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 18:12, 6 March 2011 (EST) | :Given that [[Human-Covenant War|this isn't the first war in Halo where a technologically inferior]] [[Flood-Forerunner War|race defeated a superior one]]... Well, it's true that to me too it sounds implausible, but I don't own the book, and from the looks of here it sounds like it was just mentioned once in a throwaway line. Hopefully they'll explain more about how that could happen, because their own technogical divide here looks to be very wide indeed. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 18:12, 6 March 2011 (EST) | ||
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::Arrogance is the one variable that people do not account for. Especially their own. | ::Arrogance is the one variable that people do not account for. Especially their own. | ||
::We see this happen in the Forerunner-Flood War - it isn't the Flood's abilities that overwhelm the Forerunners, though they were certainly formidible. It was the fact that the Forerunners were overconfident, and content at first to study their enemy, comfortable in the knowledge that a counter-weapon would be found. It was not, and they would pay for their arrogance with their lives, and the lives of trillions of sentients. We see it again in the Human-Covenant War. The arrogance of the Prophets in their puritanical interpretation of the Great Journey, drove the Covenant to civil war just as they were on the verge of absolute victory. | ::We see this happen in the Forerunner-Flood War - it isn't the Flood's abilities that overwhelm the Forerunners, though they were certainly formidible. It was the fact that the Forerunners were overconfident, and content at first to study their enemy, comfortable in the knowledge that a counter-weapon would be found. It was not, and they would pay for their arrogance with their lives, and the lives of trillions of sentients. We see it again in the Human-Covenant War. The arrogance of the Prophets in their puritanical interpretation of the Great Journey, drove the Covenant to civil war just as they were on the verge of absolute victory. | ||
::The Precursors were truly great. Their ego's were probably proportionally enormous, and as the old adage goes - the bigger they are, the harder they fall. -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[ | ::The Precursors were truly great. Their ego's were probably proportionally enormous, and as the old adage goes - the bigger they are, the harder they fall. -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 22:55, 6 March 2011 (EST) | ||
:Providing a look back, and for anyone who is curious: the final book in the Forerunner trilogy confirms that, yes, the Forerunners rose up and destroyed (nearly) the Precursors; however, the reasoning is very much up in the air. --[[User:SNovah|SNovah]] ([[User talk:SNovah|talk]]) 01:10, 3 October 2013 (EDT) | :Providing a look back, and for anyone who is curious: the final book in the Forerunner trilogy confirms that, yes, the Forerunners rose up and destroyed (nearly) the Precursors; however, the reasoning is very much up in the air. --[[User:SNovah|SNovah]] ([[User talk:SNovah|talk]]) 01:10, 3 October 2013 (EDT) | ||
== Deletion Request == | == Deletion Request == | ||
We literally know NOTHING about this. We don't even know that it was a war. They coulda poisoned all of their food, or stopped their reproduction with a genophage-like thing. We know nothing about this and all of the things in this article can be described on their own pages... Vegerot goes RAWR! | We literally know NOTHING about this. We don't even know that it was a war. They coulda poisoned all of their food, or stopped their reproduction with a genophage-like thing. We know nothing about this and all of the things in this article can be described on their own pages... Vegerot goes RAWR! [[User:Vegerot|<span style="color:midnightblue; font-weight:bold">Vegerot</span>]] ([[User talk:Vegerot|<span style="color:grey">talk</span>]]) 11:13, 16 January 2012 (EST)! | ||
== Cause for war and inconsistencies == | == Cause for war and inconsistencies == | ||
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When the Librarian visited Path Kethona, she stumbled across the remnants of the Forerunner armada used to annihilate the Precursors. Omega Halo was fired in that direction, so the Forerunners there may or may not be dead, but that Armada is likely still floating along in space. | When the Librarian visited Path Kethona, she stumbled across the remnants of the Forerunner armada used to annihilate the Precursors. Omega Halo was fired in that direction, so the Forerunners there may or may not be dead, but that Armada is likely still floating along in space. | ||
Could that Armada be found by humans or Mdama? Each side has half of the Janus Key. Though whether or not the Forerunners added those ships to the Janus Key is entirely up for speculation. [[User:Azekual|Azekual]] ([[User talk:Azekual|talk]]) 06:00, 22 June 2014 (EDT) | Could that Armada be found by humans or Mdama? Each side has half of the Janus Key. Though whether or not the Forerunners added those ships to the Janus Key is entirely up for speculation. [[User:Azekual|Azekual]] ([[User talk:Azekual|talk]]) 06:00, 22 June 2014 (EDT) | ||
==Needs updating with info from Mythos== | |||
This page needs to be updated with info from Mythos which gave a little insight to the war. Basically the Forerunners cklaimed the Mantle over 10 million years ago after the Precursors left the galaxy upon seeding it with life. This made them arrogant. The Precursors saw this, decided to return to the galaxy, strip the Forerunners of the Mantle, wipe out the Forerunners and give the Mantle to another race they found worthy. Forerunners found out and sent a fleet to wipe the Precursors out. | |||