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They are one in the same as seen in the cole proticol and they DO use heat to cut, slash a wall do yous se the melted metal? [[User talk:Galacticdominator|Galacticdominator]] 19:04, 8 June 2009 (UTC)
They are one in the same as seen in the cole proticol and they DO use heat to cut, slash a wall do yous se the melted metal? [[User talk:Galacticdominator|Galacticdominator]] 19:04, 8 June 2009 (UTC)


[[ Image:Vlcsnap-40225.png|thumb]]Since Energy Sword & Plasma Sword has the same info & characteristics, do you think we should combined them together?{{unsigned|Aranho}}
[[File:HaloWars-EnergySword-PlasmaBleed.png|thumb]]Since Energy Sword & Plasma Sword has the same info & characteristics, do you think we should combined them together?{{unsigned|Aranho}}


:Yes, definitely. I vote for Energy Sword as the target page because it's the more recent name. --[[user:Dragonclaws|Dragonclaws]] 05:57, 17 August 2006 (UTC)  
:Yes, definitely. I vote for Energy Sword as the target page because it's the more recent name. --[[user:Dragonclaws|Dragonclaws]] 05:57, 17 August 2006 (UTC)  
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I don't think the Jackal shield is made out of plasma; instead, it's some kind of energy field that can deflect things, because otherwise the Jackal would melt or something, because superheated plasma is, as the name suggests, really hot. So no, it shouldn't be able to deflect anything, but it should be able to melt bullets that come near enough to it. [[User:24.251.125.185|24.251.125.185]] 03:06, 12 December 2006 (UTC)
I don't think the Jackal shield is made out of plasma; instead, it's some kind of energy field that can deflect things, because otherwise the Jackal would melt or something, because superheated plasma is, as the name suggests, really hot. So no, it shouldn't be able to deflect anything, but it should be able to melt bullets that come near enough to it. [[User:24.251.125.185|24.251.125.185]] 03:06, 12 December 2006 (UTC)


*The plasma is heald by magnetic coils, when the handle is pressed the sword releases plasma, the plasma is then held and shaped into a lone triangle with a split center. That is why when you kill an elite in Halo 1 the sword coils stop and it permanently kills the weapon.--[[User:Darth nexes|<b><span style="color: purple">Admiral Sozai Nexes</span></b>]] [[Image:.jpg|15 px]] <sup>[[User talk:Darth nexes|<b><span style="color: light purple">FLEETCOMM</span></b>]]</sup> 17:06, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
*The plasma is heald by magnetic coils, when the handle is pressed the sword releases plasma, the plasma is then held and shaped into a lone triangle with a split center. That is why when you kill an elite in Halo 1 the sword coils stop and it permanently kills the weapon.--[[User:Darth nexes|<b><span style="color: purple">Admiral Sozai Nexes</span></b>]] Image:.jpg|15 px <sup>[[User talk:Darth nexes|<b><span style="color: light purple">FLEETCOMM</span></b>]]</sup> 17:06, 11 January 2007 (UTC)


In the new Halo 3 trailer released on dec 20 it shows an elite killing a brute on the ground with dual energy swords.This elite is seemingly the arbiter.user:shubi.s {{unsigned|Shubi.s}}
In the new Halo 3 trailer released on dec 20 it shows an elite killing a brute on the ground with dual energy swords.This elite is seemingly the arbiter.user:shubi.s {{unsigned|Shubi.s}}
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Well, you can assume it would be the Arbiter, but I have a distinct feeling it is not the Arbiter--[[User:Master Chief Petty Officer|Master Chief Petty Officer]] 13:01, 8 January 2007 (UTC)
Well, you can assume it would be the Arbiter, but I have a distinct feeling it is not the Arbiter--[[User:Master Chief Petty Officer|Master Chief Petty Officer]] 13:01, 8 January 2007 (UTC)


Any weapon can deflect shots.<br />--[[User page:Digipatd|<font color="#D3D3D3">Fir</font><font color="#A9A9A9">st S</font><font color="#808080">erg</font><font color="#000000">eant Dig</font><font color="#808080">ipa</font><font color="#A9A9A9">td</font>]] <font color="#808080"><sup>''([[User talk:Digipatd|<font color="#808080">My Talk</font>]]) ([[User:Ryanngreenday/Lima Company|<font color="#808080">My Adventures</font>]]) ([[User:Digipatd/Happy Birthday|<font color="#808080">Happy Birthday</font>]]) </sup></font>
Any weapon can deflect shots.<br />--<font color="#D3D3D3">Fir</font><font color="#A9A9A9">st S</font><font color="#808080">erg</font><font color="#000000">eant Dig</font><font color="#808080">ipa</font><font color="#A9A9A9">td</font> <font color="#808080"><sup>''([[User talk:Digipatd|<font color="#808080">My Talk</font>]]) ([[User:Ryanngreenday/Lima Company|<font color="#808080">My Adventures</font>]]) ([[User:Digipatd/Happy Birthday|<font color="#808080">Happy Birthday</font>]]) </sup></font>


I doubt the plasma sword can 'reflect' ammunition. However, if I fire lead into the sword blade, chances are, the bullets will melt. problem solved? Oh and, the jackal shield is not a 'plasma shield'
I doubt the plasma sword can 'reflect' ammunition. However, if I fire lead into the sword blade, chances are, the bullets will melt. problem solved? Oh and, the jackal shield is not a 'plasma shield'
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As far as the currant game, (H3) What I can see, the Energy sword can stop another's thrust, not a bullet[[User talk:Jadedhonor|Jadedhonor]] 22:06, 3 February 2009 (UTC)
As far as the currant game, (H3) What I can see, the Energy sword can stop another's thrust, not a bullet[[User talk:Jadedhonor|Jadedhonor]] 22:06, 3 February 2009 (UTC)


The energy sword DOES DEFFLECT grenades if the grenades hit on the sword's blade. There is a video  [[User:Daniel 019|<font color="DarkBlue">'''Dan'''</font><font color="Blue">'''iel'''</font><font color="LightBlue">''' 019'''</font>]] [[Image:Before.JPG|35px]] <sup>[[User talk:Daniel 019|<font color="DarkGray">'''My Talk'''</font>]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Daniel 019|<font color="Silver">'''My Work'''</font>]]</sub>
The energy sword DOES DEFFLECT grenades if the grenades hit on the sword's blade. There is a video  [[User:Daniel 019|<font color="DarkBlue">'''Dan'''</font><font color="Blue">'''iel'''</font><font color="LightBlue">''' 019'''</font>]] File:Before.JPG|35px]] <sup>[[User talk:Daniel 019|<font color="DarkGray">'''My Talk'''</font>]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Daniel 019|<font color="Silver">'''My Work'''</font>]]</sub>
Can it deflect grenades other than frags? -Dark Scion
Can it deflect grenades other than frags? -Dark Scion


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The energy sword is not "completely" useless against Hunters. It is, by itself, useless, but not completely. An example of this is in co-op mode, on the lower difficulties. After killing one Hunter through various means, my friend would back a Hunter against a wall and begin slashing wildly while I flank the Hunter and fire at his weak spot on the back. As it is useless by itself, it is quite useful as a diversion. I suggest rewording it or a note about the usefulness of this tactic. Thanks. [[User:208.68.253.134|208.68.253.134]] 03:27, 16 February 2007 (UTC)
The energy sword is not "completely" useless against Hunters. It is, by itself, useless, but not completely. An example of this is in co-op mode, on the lower difficulties. After killing one Hunter through various means, my friend would back a Hunter against a wall and begin slashing wildly while I flank the Hunter and fire at his weak spot on the back. As it is useless by itself, it is quite useful as a diversion. I suggest rewording it or a note about the usefulness of this tactic. Thanks. [[User:208.68.253.134|208.68.253.134]] 03:27, 16 February 2007 (UTC)


This can be done with any weapon, so it's just as useless as anything else.<br />--[[User page:Digipatd|<font color="#D3D3D3">Fir</font><font color="#A9A9A9">st S</font><font color="#808080">erg</font><font color="#000000">eant Dig</font><font color="#808080">ipa</font><font color="#A9A9A9">td</font>]] <font color="#808080"><sup>''([[User talk:Digipatd|<font color="#808080">My Talk</font>]]) ([[User:Ryanngreenday/Lima Company|<font color="#808080">My Adventures</font>]]) ([[User:Digipatd/Happy Birthday|<font color="#808080">Happy Birthday</font>]]) </sup></font>
This can be done with any weapon, so it's just as useless as anything else.<br />--<font color="#D3D3D3">Fir</font><font color="#A9A9A9">st S</font><font color="#808080">erg</font><font color="#000000">eant Dig</font><font color="#808080">ipa</font><font color="#A9A9A9">td</font> <font color="#808080"><sup>''([[User talk:Digipatd|<font color="#808080">My Talk</font>]]) ([[User:Ryanngreenday/Lima Company|<font color="#808080">My Adventures</font>]]) ([[User:Digipatd/Happy Birthday|<font color="#808080">Happy Birthday</font>]]) </sup></font>


That's a tactic, the energy sword is nearly useless against it. If you are fighting at an open area with a Hunter, a bet you're not gonna get lucky[[User:Master Chief Petty Officer|Master Chief Petty Officer]] 13:21, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
That's a tactic, the energy sword is nearly useless against it. If you are fighting at an open area with a Hunter, a bet you're not gonna get lucky[[User:Master Chief Petty Officer|Master Chief Petty Officer]] 13:21, 15 March 2007 (UTC)
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== Gravity ==
== Gravity ==
Does a energy sword have its own gravtatinal push? As seen on Burial Mounds the energy sword is floating. Is put in there by Bungie, but why? Can an energy sword push it self above metel because Burial Mounds apears that the ground could be made of Iron or Nickle, but the same thing happens on Ivory Tower. Is the energy sword possible to push its self from the ground or is it something Bungie put in there?[[User:Darth Gree|'''<font color="olive">The Consumed</font>''']] [[User Talk:Darth Gree|'''<font color="brown">,The Dead</font>''']] [[Special:Contributions/Darth Gree|'''<font color="purple">,and Living</font>''']]
Does a energy sword have its own gravtatinal push? As seen on Burial Mounds the energy sword is floating. Is put in there by Bungie, but why? Can an energy sword push it self above metel because Burial Mounds apears that the ground could be made of Iron or Nickle, but the same thing happens on Ivory Tower. Is the energy sword possible to push its self from the ground or is it something Bungie put in there?[[User:Darth Gree|'''<font color="olive">The Consumed</font>''']] [[User Talk:Darth Gree|'''<font color="brown">,The Dead</font>''']] [[Special:Contributions/Darth Gree|'''<font color="purple">,and Living</font>''']]
[[Image:ESE.JPG|20px]] 20:03, 29 May 2007 (UTC)
File:ESE.JPG|20px]] 20:03, 29 May 2007 (UTC)


It's on a weapon holder.[[Special:Contributions/98.196.212.50|98.196.212.50]] 06:37, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
It's on a weapon holder.[[Special:Contributions/98.196.212.50|98.196.212.50]] 06:37, 25 July 2009 (UTC)
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==Dual-Wielding Arguements and Discussions==
==Dual-Wielding Arguements and Discussions==


Here's my opinion assuming the swords damage is unchanged: Duel wielding 2 swords would be useless aside from 2 possibilities; 1. You could take out foes who requier 2 hits in a second. 2. Bungie made some kind of combo system. But what I never here people talk about is Dual-Wielding a sword and ''something else''. Imagine a sword and a [[Plasma Rifle]]. Or something even more powerful.
Here's my opinion assuming the swords damage is unchanged: Duel wielding 2 swords would be useless aside from 2 possibilities; 1. You could take out foes who requier 2 hits in a second. 2. Bungie made some kind of combo system. But what I never here people talk about is Dual-Wielding a sword and ''something else''. Imagine a sword and a {{Pattern|Okarda'phaa|plasma rifle}}. Or something even more powerful.


--[[User:7th Destiny|7th Destiny]]
--[[User:7th Destiny|7th Destiny]]
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==Only High-ranking elites can use Energy Swords?==
==Only High-ranking elites can use Energy Swords?==
I was playing Delta Halo when at the part when the second phantom comes,it droped off a ''blue'' elite with a Energy Sword. I snapped a picture of it but it's kinda hard to take a cellphone picture and backpedal from a rampaging elite at the same time.
I was playing Delta Halo when at the part when the second phantom comes,it droped off a ''blue'' elite with a Energy Sword. I snapped a picture of it but it's kinda hard to take a cellphone picture and backpedal from a rampaging elite at the same time.
In the end I had to kill it to get a picture. Any theories as to why this happened?[[User:Spartansnak|SwordHater]] 11:59, 22 June 2007 (UTC)[[spartansnak]]
In the end I had to kill it to get a picture. Any theories as to why this happened?[[User:Spartansnak|SwordHater]] 11:59, 22 June 2007 (UTC)spartansnak
[[Image:Blueswordelite.jpg|thumb|right|minor elite with sword.]]
File:Blueswordelite.jpg|thumb|right|minor elite with sword.]]


I dunno, loads of Elites are seen using them, I don't care much about it, just gun them down, you know me![[User:Master Chief Petty Officer|'''ΜΆŜΤΈŖČΗέÏΣΡΈΤΤΥОΓΓïČëŗ''']] 12:47, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
I dunno, loads of Elites are seen using them, I don't care much about it, just gun them down, you know me![[User:Master Chief Petty Officer|'''ΜΆŜΤΈŖČΗέÏΣΡΈΤΤΥОΓΓïČëŗ''']] 12:47, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
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Yeah, Only higher elites(ultra up)can use energy swords. If you try to give an energy sword to a Minor Or major Domo elite you won't be sucsesful. Here i had to fight a Minor domo with an energy sword![[User:Spartansnak|SwordHater]] 13:54, 22 June 2007 (UTC)
Yeah, Only higher elites(ultra up)can use energy swords. If you try to give an energy sword to a Minor Or major Domo elite you won't be sucsesful. Here i had to fight a Minor domo with an energy sword![[User:Spartansnak|SwordHater]] 13:54, 22 June 2007 (UTC)


I disagree with Spartansnak, because on the level of halo 2 "Uprising" you can find a Minor Elite with an Energy Sword. [[User:Spartan-007|Spartan-G007]] [[Image:kpisalasergod2.gif|35px]] <sup>[http://live.xbox.com/en-GB/profile/profile.aspx?pp=0&GamerTag=SpartanG007 <font color=green>XBL gamertag:SpartanG007</font>]</sup>
I disagree with Spartansnak, because on the level of halo 2 "Uprising" you can find a Minor Elite with an Energy Sword. [[User:Spartan-007|Spartan-G007]] File:kpisalasergod2.gif|35px]] <sup>[http://live.xbox.com/en-GB/profile/profile.aspx?pp=0&GamerTag=SpartanG007 <font color=green>XBL gamertag:SpartanG007</font>]</sup>


:Actually, he's a Spec Ops Elite. But Spartansnak is still wrong, you can give any Elite an Energy Sword. -[[User:Azathoth|The Dark Lord Azathoth]] 12:32, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
:Actually, he's a Spec Ops Elite. But Spartansnak is still wrong, you can give any Elite an Energy Sword. -[[User:Azathoth|The Dark Lord Azathoth]] 12:32, 24 August 2007 (UTC)
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I am just too jumpy to notice them, because I always get a blow when I try to get near them and have a good look at them (obviously I am playing as the MC)![[User:Master Chief Petty Officer|'''ΜΆŜΤΈŖČΗέÏΣΡΈΤΤΥОΓΓïČëŗ''']] 11:39, 25 June 2007 (UTC)
I am just too jumpy to notice them, because I always get a blow when I try to get near them and have a good look at them (obviously I am playing as the MC)![[User:Master Chief Petty Officer|'''ΜΆŜΤΈŖČΗέÏΣΡΈΤΤΥОΓΓïČëŗ''']] 11:39, 25 June 2007 (UTC)


:I was playing Regret (the level...duh) and i faced a minor elite with a sword during the part on the first bridge when you get out of the room in the beginning of the level...yes...kinda hard to explain. {{Signatures/Emosworld}} 09:54, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
:I was playing Regret (the level...duh) and i faced a minor elite with a sword during the part on the first bridge when you get out of the room in the beginning of the level...yes...kinda hard to explain. Emosworld 09:54, 28 September 2007 (UTC)
Actually, it IS possible to give a minor Elite an Energy Sword.  Play 'the arbiter' and try to swap your sword for the beam rifle (from the guy that has it, of course).
Actually, it IS possible to give a minor Elite an Energy Sword.  Play 'the arbiter' and try to swap your sword for the beam rifle (from the guy that has it, of course).
:What are you talking about??? ALL Elites in ''The Arbiter'' are Spec Op Elites. --[[Image:Blemo Logo.jpg|35px]] <font color="steelblue">[[User:Blemo|Blemo]]</font> <sup>[[user talk:Blemo|(Talk)]] [[Special:Contributions/Blemo|(Contributions)]]</sup> 01:53, 5 July 2007 (UTC)
:What are you talking about??? ALL Elites in ''The Arbiter'' are Spec Op Elites. --File:Blemo Logo.jpg|35px]] <font color="steelblue">[[User:Blemo|Blemo]]</font> <sup>[[user talk:Blemo|(Talk)]] [[Special:Contributions/Blemo|(Contributions)]]</sup> 01:53, 5 July 2007 (UTC)


Those curves at the back of the energy sword...it's very close to the users wrist...I'm surprised they don't accidently slice their hand off.-- [[User:Joshua 029|Joshua 029]] 14:27, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
Those curves at the back of the energy sword...it's very close to the users wrist...I'm surprised they don't accidently slice their hand off.-- [[User:Joshua 029|Joshua 029]] 14:27, 21 August 2007 (UTC)
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==Campaing/multiplayer recommendations==
==Campaing/multiplayer recommendations==
for a while i thought about deleting the campaing and multiplayer recommendations section. it just seems out of place like it shouldn't be there. Plus thats what the HaloWiki.net link is for right? --[[User:EliteSpartan|<b><span style="color: Green">EliteSpartan</span></b>]][[Image:Halo3.comchief.PNG|30px]] <sup>[[User talk:EliteSpartan|<b><span style="color: Black">My Talk</span></b>]]</sup> <sub>[[Special:Contributions/EliteSpartan|<b><font color=black>My Contribs</font></b>]]</sub>[[Image:Sergeant.jpg|30px]][[Image:GDI.jpg|30px]] October 20, 2007
for a while i thought about deleting the campaing and multiplayer recommendations section. it just seems out of place like it shouldn't be there. Plus thats what the HaloWiki.net link is for right? --[[User:EliteSpartan|<b><span style="color: Green">EliteSpartan</span></b>]]File:Halo3.comchief.PNG|30px]] <sup>[[User talk:EliteSpartan|<b><span style="color: Black">My Talk</span></b>]]</sup> <sub>[[Special:Contributions/EliteSpartan|<b><font color=black>My Contribs</font></b>]]</sub>File:Sergeant.jpg|30px]]File:GDI.jpg|30px]] October 20, 2007


==About the pic==
==About the pic==
Can anyone put up a better pic of the Energy Sword, the sword color blended with the background. [[User:Master Chief Petty Officer|'''<font color="Silver">'''Master'''</font><font color="DarkGray">'''Chief'''</font><font color="Gray">Petty</font><font color="DimGray">Officer</font>''']]<sub>[[Special:Contributions/Master Chief Petty Officer|<font color="RoyalBlue">Spartan Contribution</font>]]</sub> 13:08, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
Can anyone put up a better pic of the Energy Sword, the sword color blended with the background. [[User:Master Chief Petty Officer|'''<font color="Silver">'''Master'''</font><font color="DarkGray">'''Chief'''</font><font color="Gray">Petty</font><font color="DimGray">Officer</font>''']]<sub>[[Special:Contributions/Master Chief Petty Officer|<font color="RoyalBlue">Spartan Contribution</font>]]</sub> 13:08, 1 December 2007 (UTC)


:Um, no. Policy here is that stuff on white backgrounds rock. Anyway, you can put that in the gallery oon the page itself.--[[User:Spartan781|'''<font color="LightGrey">Sp</font><font color="DarkGray">art</font><font color="Gray">an-</font><font color="Black">781</font>''']] [[Image:Seaman.png|25px]] <sup>[[User talk:Spartan781|<font color="black" face="Arial">Comm</font>]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Spartan781|<font color="black" face="Arial">CSV</font>]]</sub> 13:25, 1 December 2007 (UTC)
:Um, no. Policy here is that stuff on white backgrounds rock. Anyway, you can put that in the gallery oon the page itself.--[[User:Spartan781|'''<font color="LightGrey">Sp</font><font color="DarkGray">art</font><font color="Gray">an-</font><font color="Black">781</font>''']] File:Seaman.png|25px]] <sup>[[User talk:Spartan781|<font color="black" face="Arial">Comm</font>]]</sup><sub>[[Special:Contributions/Spartan781|<font color="black" face="Arial">CSV</font>]]</sub> 13:25, 1 December 2007 (UTC)


Wha? I mean, you can't even tell where is the Sword by the looks of it, can anyone get a pic from the Forge and put it up? [[User:Master Chief Petty Officer|'''<font color="Silver">'''Master'''</font><font color="DarkGray">'''Chief'''</font><font color="Gray">Petty</font><font color="DimGray">Officer</font>''']]<sub>[[Special:Contributions/Master Chief Petty Officer|<font color="RoyalBlue">Spartan Contribution</font>]]</sub> 03:11, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
Wha? I mean, you can't even tell where is the Sword by the looks of it, can anyone get a pic from the Forge and put it up? [[User:Master Chief Petty Officer|'''<font color="Silver">'''Master'''</font><font color="DarkGray">'''Chief'''</font><font color="Gray">Petty</font><font color="DimGray">Officer</font>''']]<sub>[[Special:Contributions/Master Chief Petty Officer|<font color="RoyalBlue">Spartan Contribution</font>]]</sub> 03:11, 2 December 2007 (UTC)
:Now image policy has changed around here. Now it's mostly transparent images. Much nicer and better, I think, than those white background images. [[User talk:Xamikaze330|Xamikaze330]] 21:59, 29 August 2011 (EDT)Xamikaze330


== Plasma sword in Halo 1 ==
== Plasma sword in Halo 1 ==
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Agreed. I removed the trivia as it was partially biased. Thanks for the tip, anon.
Agreed. I removed the trivia as it was partially biased. Thanks for the tip, anon.


~[[w:c:User:Blade_bane|<font color="purple">'''Blade bane'''</font>]] ~ [[w:c:halo:Special: Contributions/Blade_bane|<font color="purple">'''Anti-Vandal'''</font>]]~ 07:05, 10 August 2009 (UTC)Blade bane
~[[wikia:User:Blade_bane|<font color="purple">'''Blade bane'''</font>]] ~ [[halowikia:Special: Contributions/Blade_bane|<font color="purple">'''Anti-Vandal'''</font>]]~ 07:05, 10 August 2009 (UTC)Blade bane


== In Multiplayer ==
== In Multiplayer ==
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:False.- <font face="Century Gothic">[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></font> 19:29, October 26, 2009 (UTC)
:False.- <font face="Century Gothic">[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></font> 19:29, October 26, 2009 (UTC)


== Lunge
== Lunge ==
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Just a quick question. Why exactly can you lunge while wielding an energy sword? Is it something caused by the sword itself, or is there no real in game answer? Also, from reading this page, people should really use spell checker. --[[User talk:DKong|DKong]] 22:43, December 9, 2009 (UTC)
Just a quick question. Why exactly can you lunge while wielding an energy sword? Is it something caused by the sword itself, or is there no real in game answer? Also, from reading this page, people should really use spell checker. --[[User talk:DKong|DKong]] 22:43, December 9, 2009 (UTC)
:It's a gameplay mechanic.- <font face="Century Gothic">[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></font> 22:48, December 9, 2009 (UTC)
==Bullet-Blocking Energy Swords and Sangheili Curveblades==
Should something be put up regarding how Thel 'Vadamee was able to use his Energy Sword to block bullets in Halo Legends' The Package? I'd think that would be something worth noting, but I'm not sure. Newbie here at Halopedia, though I've been kicking around Wookieepedia for a while.
Also, wondering if an article should be put up for the Sangheili curveblade, which according to Halo Evolutions' The Return, is a solid-bladed hunting knife that has the same curves as an Energy Sword, and appears to be the sword's pre-Covenant precursor. Or is that mere mention (IIRC, it only appears on a few pages) not enough to warrant a new article, and should the info go in THIS article? [[User talk:Dewback rancher|Dewback rancher]] 02:55, April 9, 2010 (UTC)
::Legends should be the last thing to look at for any sort of worthwhile information, the sword cannot block bullets, theoretically it could block one at best, but it blocking a barrage of bullets at close range is not possible. The thing is too small to act as a real shield. Also something like the Sangheili curve blade should have its own article since it is not actually related to the energy sword. [[User talk:Durandal-217|Durandal-217]] 04:13, April 9, 2010 (UTC)
:::As full of mistakes as it is, Legends is still canon. Anyone who say otherwise is being ignorant. Add it. While the sword is way too small to be an effective shield in any way, the sword '''has''' been seen to block bullets point blank. This could be explained by the strength of the magnetic field used to contain the large quantity of plasma. Maybe the "deflection" is an illusion and the intense heat of the plasma just eats the small bullet's mass right up. This seems to be the more likely option and is a pretty realistic explanation.
:::As for the curveblade, definitely start a new article. I'll have to go read that story again, but what you're describing seems to indicate that this "curveblade" is the same metal sword used by Haka(?) in the Legends episode The Duel. Guess I'll have to check.--[[User talk:Nerfherder1428|Nerfherder1428]] 12:20, April 9, 2010 (UTC)
::::So, if what you're saying is true, I guess the MJOLNIR armour/SPARTANs can break/bend the laws of physics and perform flips in space regardless of the existence of gravity? '''*ZOMG!*'''
::::It is more of a dramatic effect and as per Durandal, the Energy Sword wouldn't be able to sustain a barrage of bullets at close range. Certain things in Halo Legends can be ignored, even though it is canon. I guess the plot is canon but the visuals aren't ''always'' true to the canonicity...[[User:-Ascension-|<span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:#000000;">{insert name</span>]] [[User talk:-Ascension-|<span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:#000000;">here}</span>]] 12:31, April 9, 2010 (UTC)
::::::It would be so much easier if the canonicity of Legends could be denounced. Much less confusion would be involved. <font color="#7F007F">[[User:Blade_bane/Stats|'''B''']][[Special:Contributions/Blade_bane|'''L''']][[User:Blade_bane/Guestbook|'''A''']][[User:Blade_bane/Signature|<font color="#000000">'''D'''</font>]][[User:Blade_bane/Quotes|<font color="#B0E0E6">'''E'''</font>]][[User:Blade bane|'''BANE''']]</font> [[User:Blade_bane|<font color="#FFA500">Anti-Vandal</font>]] 12:38, April 9, 2010 (UTC)Blade bane
:::::::Durandal-217, wtf? Just because you do not like a particular source doesn't mean its not cannon "{insert name here}" is correct. As for the Type 1 not being effective sheild, that is almost completely dependant on wielder skill. The technology's limits in how much damage it can take before failing is not know to us, therefore we can't test that variable. Provided the tech is adequate, the Type-1 would make an excellent sheild in the grasp of someone of Raiden's (MGS) skill level. Finally, the Sangheili curve blade is directly related to the Type-1 in that it is used by the Sangheili, and that it is a melee weapon. From our view, your interpretation of the (fictional) facts is suprisingly inaccurate. No offense, it just seems you suck. --Dark Scion
::::::::Dark Scion: You do realise Ascension's reply (aka "{insert name here}") is simply a summarised statement by Durandal-217? He's basically fixing the tone of Durandal's comment to make it more "user-friendly". As per Ascension, I believe the deflection scene is merely a dramatic effect. Also, please keep it civil.- <font face="Century Gothic">[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></font> 21:04, April 9, 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::So, DONT add bullet deflection, DO go get my copy of Evolutions out to start a curveblade article, and possibly add a link to it in this article's trivia section, since it does seem to be related and quite possibly the Energy Sword's predecessor (since the Unnamed Shipmaster states that the Sangheili had been using curveblades "as long as they could remember",and they OBVIOUSLY remember, as a people, the creation of the Covenant, it would seem the curveblade predates the Energy Sword by an undefined amount of time at the very least). That about sum it up? [[User talk:Dewback rancher|Dewback rancher]] 00:13, April 10, 2010 (UTC)
::::::::::<.< The previous discussion has nothing to do with your curveblade. Just go and create/expand it. >.>[[User:-Ascension-|<span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:#000000;">{insert name</span>]] [[User talk:-Ascension-|<span style="font-family:Century Gothic; color:#000000;">here}</span>]] 00:46, April 10, 2010 (UTC)
:::::::::::Thanks. Anyways, the [[Curveblade]] article is up, and though I described it as a small hunting knife, it's entirely possible due to the wording that it IS the same weapon seen used in The Duel. The passage in question describes the Unnamed Shipmaster as drawing "his small hunting curveblade", which can either be interpreted as a curveblade being a small hunting knife, or the one the Shipmaster used being a small hunting knife variation on a large blade (a la The Duel). Though, since I found Legends a bit confusing, I'd prefer if someone with more experience added the info from that to the Curveblade article. That, and getting the Infobox prepped. Took me forever just to get the NAME up in that. REALLY confusing stuff... [[User talk:Dewback rancher|Dewback rancher]] 18:14, April 10, 2010 (UTC)
== When Dropped ==
If an Energy Sword is made of plasma, how come when one is dropped it doesn't start burning through the floor and falling until it hits the center of the earth?
'''(I am perfectly aware that there is a difference between gameplay and real-life physics, I just want to know if there is a canon or life-plausible answer.)''' [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator''''''</span>]]'' 15:56, June 26, 2010 (UTC)''
@^ It might be the electro-magnetic fiwld that was mentioned earlier that stops the blade making contact with the floor.
The pressure fro gripping the handle turns on the blade, so once it is dropped, it turns off. the only reason why it is on in game is that it'd be very hard to see without it. I think. [[User talk:Jabberwock xeno|Jabberwock xeno]] 21:17, July 4, 2010 (UTC)
::It is not possible, by physics and canonical standards the second the sword touches the ground it would burn the area around it, there is no way it can still stay ignited and not burn the area around it. Like Xeno said it is done for visual identification in the games, the games themselves dumb down the seriousness of all of the weapons for gameplay sake. [[User talk:Durandal-217|Durandal-217]] 22:32, July 4, 2010 (UTC)
== A few quick things ==
*First of all, I believe the reason that the Jump-Lunge is more effective is because you are lunging at your opponent's '''face'''.
*Second, in the Halo 2 instruction manual, it said they were thought to be only a ceremonial weapon at first. The Fist of Rukt was a ceremonial hammer and the very first Gravity Hammer, so doesn't that make it likely that the very first energy sword was more primitive and was mostly for ceremonial use? --[[User:XSuperGamer|<span style="color:#FFD700">'''''X'''''</span><span style="color:#FF7518">'''''Super'''''</span><span style="color:#CE0000">'''''Gamer'''''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:XSuperGamer|<span style="color:#303030">'''''Talk'''''</span>]]</sup> 19:10, 13 August 2011 (EDT)
::There is no proof that the Fist of Rukt was the first gravity hammer. While it is possible that early energy swords were more ornate and ceremonial, perhaps similar in design to Ripa 'Moramee's swords or even Haka's metal blade, we don't know whether this was the case. --[[User talk:Braidenvl|Courage never dies.]] 21:26, 13 August 2011 (EDT)
==Other Melée Weapon Similarities==
While I certainly do agree that this unique sci fi weapon has distinct aesthetic similarities with its real-world counterpart, the katara dagger, I should point out that the energy sword has some, albeit not so aesthetically alike, but in terms of technological operation, is very similar to the Lightsaber used by the Jedi Knights and the Sith Lords of ''Star Wars'', by which I mean that both the Lightsaber and the Energy Sword must be activated in order to bring their respective energy blades into existence. The only real difference is in the design of the handgrip, and the way it is held and wielded. Is it okay if this is added to the Trivia section, or is there something else I should know? [[User talk:Xamikaze330|Xamikaze330]] 21:59, 29 August 2011 (EDT)Xamikaze330
==Possible Usage in Halo 1 Remake?==
Does anyone know if the Energy Sword is going to be usable in the [[Halo: Combat Evolved Anniversary|remake]] of Halo 1? It would be nice if that could be changed to become possible. A nice, new feature previously not possible to do. [[User talk:Xamikaze330|Xamikaze330]] 22:06, 29 August 2011 (EDT)Xamikaze330
== Working with active camouflage/invisibility: canon or gameplay? ==
I wanted to amend the article's gameplay section and/or trivia by adding a sentence somewhere along the lines of the above topic but I couldn't find any conclusive evidence that an energy sword can be covered by active camouflage/invisibility.
To look back, the energy sword in H1 and H2 is not covered by the ability, to which I think should be the canon position. This is confirmed in ''Forward unto Dawn'' when the invisible Zealot was wielding the weapon and in ''Headhunters'' with the special Special Operations Sangheili team with blood-red swords. The only media where the sword is covered by the ability can only be found in the gameplay of H3, HR and H4.
Anyone else can find something stronger to confirm this, that, in canon, the energy sword cannot be covered by active camouflage/invisibility? — <span style="font-size:14px; font-family:Arial;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span>  10:00, 16 August 2015 (EDT)
:Rereading ''Headhunters'' it's a bit of both. While the sword is visible while the first Elite is camoed, it's only while stabbing Roland and swinging at Jonah. Then when the others ignite their swords, they're still camoed, and Jonah can only see them and their swords because of VISR. One could say perhaps their camo takes a while to recover of the weapon right after it's been used.
:In my opinion, each of the different methods, all camoed or floating sword, can be viewed as canon by 343's new favorite word: variants. We know that there's different types of active camo plugs, such as the ''Halo 4'' [[Type-3 active camouflage|version]] that works like an armor ability and the ''Halo 3'' [[Cloaking|equipment]] version that's one use only. Those Spec Ops Elites also had chameleon armor underneath their cloaking field. So whether or not the sword is hidden or not might depend on what technology is fielded. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 14:50, 16 August 2015 (EDT)
:EDIT: Worth noting is that Waypoint's [https://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/universe/weapons/active-camouflage active camo article] has the camo cloaking the sword. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 17:23, 16 August 2015 (EDT)
::Having revised ''Headhunters'' (both the short story and the motion comic), it seems that the Elite quickly activated his energy sword before it made contact with Roland. The novel version makes no mention of the sword as being cloaked. Also, when the scene shifts away from Jonah's view, we can see that the energy swords are not covered by the active camouflage: rather, the energy swords remain visible when activated by the Elites. With regards to Waypoint, the image used in that article is a gameplay image which is most likely not to be an accurate portrayal of an active camouflage as it is restricted to the game engine. The energy dagger in ''Halo: Reach'' comes to mind; even when not activated, the energy dagger remains "visible/active" in active camouflage. So, canon or gameplay? — <span style="font-size:14px; font-family:Arial;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span>  12:39, 5 September 2015 (EDT)
:It may be a gameplay image, but I think they treat the picture as an accurate representation, being the main image on their page. Overall, I think it's risky to make a conclusive statement on the subject here without a conclusive statement from the makers. Who knows, maybe the camo in Halo 4 is an upgraded version from the wartime module that can now hide swords. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 16:56, 5 September 2015 (EDT)