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==The Return of Benjamin Giraud==
==The Return of Benjamin Giraud==
[[File:Benjamin Giraud.jpg|thumb|350px|Give Key a wig and the casting makes perfect sense.]]
[[File:Benjamin Giraud.jpg|thumb|350px|Give Key a wig and the casting makes perfect sense.]]
I'm sure by now we've all experienced the {{Plain|[http://huntthetruth.tumblr.com/ ''Hunt the Truth'']}} not-quite-ARG for ''Halo 5''. The general concept alone is intriguing but for 343i to bring back [[Benjamin Giraud|such an obscure character]] is nothing short of amazing - a great example of the {{Plain|[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/PlotArchaeology plot archaeology]}} I've come to expect from them. It's also thrilling to hear [[Wikipedia:Keegan-Michael Key|Keegan-Michael Key]] in a serious role. I'm so used to him being funny it's kind of a shock, sort of like Keaton!Batman supposedly was in the late '80s; I'm totally on board with the choice, though. And what's this about anomalies in deep space? I think we all know where ''Halo 5'' is headed. --[[User:Braidenvl|<span style="color:gray">'''''Our vengeance is at hand.'''''</span>]] [[File:Gravemind.svg|14px]] ([[User talk:Braidenvl|<span style="color:gray">Talk to me.</span>]]) 12:20, 23 March 2015 (EDT)
I'm sure by now we've all experienced the {{Plain|[http://huntthetruth.tumblr.com/ ''Hunt the Truth'']}} not-quite-ARG for ''Halo 5''. The general concept alone is intriguing but for 343i to bring back [[Benjamin Giraud|such an obscure character]] is nothing short of amazing - a great example of the {{Plain|[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/PlotArchaeology plot archaeology]}} I've come to expect from them. It's also thrilling to hear [[Wikipedia:Keegan-Michael Key|Keegan-Michael Key]] in a serious role. I'm so used to him being funny it's kind of a shock, sort of like Keaton!Batman supposedly was in the late '80s; I'm totally on board with the choice, though. And what's this about anomalies in deep space? I think we all know where ''Halo 5'' is headed. --[[User:Braidenvl|<span style="color:gray">'''''Our vengeance is at hand.'''''</span>]] ([[User talk:Braidenvl|<span style="color:gray">Talk to me.</span>]]) 12:20, 23 March 2015 (EDT)


:And I thought they had done something spectacular when they brought Petra to ''Escalation''... Good. I like 343's choices. [[User:Imrane-117|Imrane-117]] ([[User talk:Imrane-117|talk]]) 14:21, 23 March 2015 (EDT)
:And I thought they had done something spectacular when they brought Petra to ''Escalation''... Good. I like 343's choices. [[User:Imrane-117|Imrane-117]] ([[User talk:Imrane-117|talk]]) 14:21, 23 March 2015 (EDT)
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:Indeed. Giraud's "search for the truth" may come across as sincere but given his past activities we can't be fully sure about the veracity of anything he says. As an aside, I really liked that they used this opportunity to reintroduce Sully as well (in a way that didn't amount to "KIA by falling rocks"). --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 12:38, 29 March 2015 (EDT)
:Indeed. Giraud's "search for the truth" may come across as sincere but given his past activities we can't be fully sure about the veracity of anything he says. As an aside, I really liked that they used this opportunity to reintroduce Sully as well (in a way that didn't amount to "KIA by falling rocks"). --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 12:38, 29 March 2015 (EDT)


::I'm sure if we ask nicely we can still get Grey Team killed off in a Catalog post. ;) [[User:Sith Venator|<span style="color:green">Sith-venator Wavingstrider</span>]] [[File:Fett helmet.jpg|20px]] ([[User talk:Sith Venator|<span style="color:blue">Commlink</span>]]) 12:43, 29 March 2015 (EDT)
::I'm sure if we ask nicely we can still get Grey Team killed off in a Catalog post. ;) [[User:Sith Venator|<span style="color:green">Sith-venator Wavingstrider</span>]] ([[User talk:Sith Venator|<span style="color:blue">Commlink</span>]]) 12:43, 29 March 2015 (EDT)


==Second Sunrise Over New Mombasa==
==Second Sunrise Over New Mombasa==
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Guys, you need to check these out right now.
Guys, you need to check these out right now.


{{#youtube:tHQiYPiNVEE|300px|right|Locke trailer}}
{{#widget:YouTube|id=tHQiYPiNVEE|thumb|width=300|caption=Locke trailer}}


{{#youtube:9rd8FWUCCZk|300px|left|Chief trailer.}}
{{#youtube:9rd8FWUCCZk|300px|left|Chief trailer.}}
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::My interpretation was that the Master Chief was just one of many before the Fall of Reach, not given any special PR over the rest of the Spartans, until there were practically no more Spartans left, and he had to become the focus. As for whether the public know about the S-IIs true origins, Mal and Vaz in Glasslands didn't know about it by 2553, and as far as I know the UEG was still holding hearings about S-II and III. Nothing to say ONI didn't lie to them, or even that the UEG would declassify the whole story to the public.
::My interpretation was that the Master Chief was just one of many before the Fall of Reach, not given any special PR over the rest of the Spartans, until there were practically no more Spartans left, and he had to become the focus. As for whether the public know about the S-IIs true origins, Mal and Vaz in Glasslands didn't know about it by 2553, and as far as I know the UEG was still holding hearings about S-II and III. Nothing to say ONI didn't lie to them, or even that the UEG would declassify the whole story to the public.


::I do like the theory that the teacher was genuinely not an ONI plant, and that it signifies that John's flash clone survived. Mass Effect did the Evil CLone story well, and this is better - it gives the clone a backstory and motivation, and may signify that someone is trying to ''replace'' the Master Chief in a similar manner - either the Insurrection, to sway people to their cause with the Chief's mythos, or ONI itself, in need of a more loyal saviour or perhaps to perform false-flag attacks to keep them relevant in a post-war galaxy as the UNSC tries to transfer power back to the UEG. We're probably blowing ONI's cover story way out of proportion, but I like the idea. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 05:30, 30 March 2015 (EDT)
::I do like the theory that the teacher was genuinely not an ONI plant, and that it signifies that John's flash clone survived. Mass Effect did the Evil CLone story well, and this is better - it gives the clone a backstory and motivation, and may signify that someone is trying to ''replace'' the Master Chief in a similar manner - either the Insurrection, to sway people to their cause with the Chief's mythos, or ONI itself, in need of a more loyal saviour or perhaps to perform false-flag attacks to keep them relevant in a post-war galaxy as the UNSC tries to transfer power back to the UEG. We're probably blowing ONI's cover story way out of proportion, but I like the idea. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 05:30, 30 March 2015 (EDT)


:::I recall Parangosky was planning to make the S-IIs and their files public as of the Kilo-Five books, though it's possible it was just for some government committee who then promptly decided to keep the whole thing under wraps (which would be the sensible thing to do, unless Maggie wanted to bring ONI and the UNSC crashing down with her).
:::I recall Parangosky was planning to make the S-IIs and their files public as of the Kilo-Five books, though it's possible it was just for some government committee who then promptly decided to keep the whole thing under wraps (which would be the sensible thing to do, unless Maggie wanted to bring ONI and the UNSC crashing down with her).
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The May 2547 version of the [http://halo.bungie.net/projects/reach/article.aspx?ucc=intel&cid=24024 CAA Factbook] presents a lie of omission: It portrays the Spartans as veteran Special Forces operators, making no indication of their true origins. As far as the contemporary public was concerned (those who cared enough to do a little research, that is) the Spartans of the day were essentially Spartan-IVs. I doubt anyone outside ONI would have considered the possibility that the Spartans could have such a seedy background; the looming threat of annihilation would be an immeasurably more pressing concern.
The May 2547 version of the [http://halo.bungie.net/projects/reach/article.aspx?ucc=intel&cid=24024 CAA Factbook] presents a lie of omission: It portrays the Spartans as veteran Special Forces operators, making no indication of their true origins. As far as the contemporary public was concerned (those who cared enough to do a little research, that is) the Spartans of the day were essentially Spartan-IVs. I doubt anyone outside ONI would have considered the possibility that the Spartans could have such a seedy background; the looming threat of annihilation would be an immeasurably more pressing concern.


As for Silva, he commanded the ODSTs John killed and maimed aboard the ''Atlas''. If ONI were willing to tell anyone about the SPARTAN-II program back then it would be the man who'd just lost several Helljumpers to a fourteen-year-old. Maybe the "kidnapped children" rumors were prevalent enough by 2552 that he didn't mind spilling the beans in front of McKay. John's lack of a reaction (even from his own POV) is rather odd, though. --[[User:Braidenvl|<span style="color:gray">'''''Our answer is at hand.'''''</span>]] [[File:Gravemind.svg|14px]] ([[User talk:Braidenvl|<span style="color:gray">Talk to me.</span>]]) 09:37, 30 March 2015 (EDT)
As for Silva, he commanded the ODSTs John killed and maimed aboard the ''Atlas''. If ONI were willing to tell anyone about the SPARTAN-II program back then it would be the man who'd just lost several Helljumpers to a fourteen-year-old. Maybe the "kidnapped children" rumors were prevalent enough by 2552 that he didn't mind spilling the beans in front of McKay. John's lack of a reaction (even from his own POV) is rather odd, though. --[[User:Braidenvl|<span style="color:gray">'''''Our answer is at hand.'''''</span>]] ([[User talk:Braidenvl|<span style="color:gray">Talk to me.</span>]]) 09:37, 30 March 2015 (EDT)


I mentioned this to Tucker over skype, but the [[:File:Ep_1_image.jpg|circular symbols on the top of the page here]] appear to be [[w:c:TARDIS:Gallifreyan_(language)#Circular_Gallifreyan|circular Gallifreyan]], generated from a user-made font such as [http://www.fonts101.com/fonts/view/Dingbats/59472/WS_Simple_Gallifreyan this one]. HEADCANON: John is a TIme Lord, and his MJOLNIR is his TARDIS! :P -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 04:44, 3 April 2015 (EDT)
I mentioned this to Tucker over skype, but the [[:File:Ep_1_image.jpg|circular symbols on the top of the page here]] appear to be [[wikia:TARDIS:Gallifreyan_(language)#Circular_Gallifreyan|circular Gallifreyan]], generated from a user-made font such as [http://www.fonts101.com/fonts/view/Dingbats/59472/WS_Simple_Gallifreyan this one]. HEADCANON: John is a TIme Lord, and his MJOLNIR is his TARDIS! :P -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 04:44, 3 April 2015 (EDT)


:Thought I'd put this here before I got any feedback, in case I'm being hasty. Meant for the trivia section on the Hunt the Truth article, but holding off until someone else comments.
:Thought I'd put this here before I got any feedback, in case I'm being hasty. Meant for the trivia section on the Hunt the Truth article, but holding off until someone else comments.
*In the image containing purported evidence of John's death at the age of 6, the partly circular symbols visible at the top of the page appear to be [[w:c:TARDIS:Gallifreyan (language)|circular Gallifreyan text]] from [[w:c:TARDIS:Doctor_Who|Doctor Who]], likely generated using a fan-made font.
*In the image containing purported evidence of John's death at the age of 6, the partly circular symbols visible at the top of the page appear to be [[wikia:TARDIS:Gallifreyan (language)|circular Gallifreyan text]] from [[wikia:TARDIS:Doctor_Who|Doctor Who]], likely generated using a fan-made font.
-- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 05:47, 3 April 2015 (EDT)
-- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 05:47, 3 April 2015 (EDT)


==Episode Two==
==Episode Two==
So we have confirmation; Ellie did move off planet shortly before John's flash clone died, hence why she didn't mention anything about it. Also, is it just me, or did Dvorak (I'm probably spelling her name wrong) sound like she was voiced by Jen Taylor? It was around the end of her lines, but her accent seemed to diminish and she started sounding more Halsey-like. It's hard to describe. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 21:37, 5 April 2015 (EDT)
So we have confirmation; Ellie did move off planet shortly before John's flash clone died, hence why she didn't mention anything about it. Also, is it just me, or did Dvorak (I'm probably spelling her name wrong) sound like she was voiced by Jen Taylor? It was around the end of her lines, but her accent seemed to diminish and she started sounding more Halsey-like. It's hard to describe. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 21:37, 5 April 2015 (EDT)
:I totally thought it was Jennifer Hale.[[User:Sith Venator|<span style="color:green">Sith-venator Wavingstrider</span>]] [[File:Fett helmet.jpg|20px]] ([[User talk:Sith Venator|<span style="color:blue">Commlink</span>]]) 21:51, 5 April 2015 (EDT)
:I totally thought it was Jennifer Hale.[[User:Sith Venator|<span style="color:green">Sith-venator Wavingstrider</span>]] ([[User talk:Sith Venator|<span style="color:blue">Commlink</span>]]) 21:51, 5 April 2015 (EDT)
::Yeah, I heard a bit of Halsey in there, but I could see it being Hale. - [[User:NightHammer|NightHammer]] ([[User talk:NightHammer|talk]]) 21:54, 5 April 2015 (EDT)
::Yeah, I heard a bit of Halsey in there, but I could see it being Hale. - [[User:NightHammer|NightHammer]] ([[User talk:NightHammer|talk]]) 21:54, 5 April 2015 (EDT)
:::I'm pretty sure I hear Jennifer Hale. --[[User:Braidenvl|<span style="color:gray">'''''Our answer is at hand.'''''</span>]] [[File:Gravemind.svg|14px]] ([[User talk:Braidenvl|<span style="color:gray">Talk to me.</span>]]) 09:19, 6 April 2015 (EDT)
:::I'm pretty sure I hear Jennifer Hale. --[[User:Braidenvl|<span style="color:gray">'''''Our answer is at hand.'''''</span>]] ([[User talk:Braidenvl|<span style="color:gray">Talk to me.</span>]]) 09:19, 6 April 2015 (EDT)
::::Agreed, I hear a lot of Hale in that.  I quite liked it! -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 19:12, 6 April 2015 (EDT)
::::Agreed, I hear a lot of Hale in that.  I quite liked it! -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 19:12, 6 April 2015 (EDT)
:::::[https://twitter.com/jentaylortown/status/585611394982277121 It's not Jen Taylor.] Still waiting to hear back from Jennifer Hale. [[User:Jarmatus|Jarmatus]] ([[User talk:Jarmatus|talk]]) 21:23, 7 April 2015 (EDT)
:::::[https://twitter.com/jentaylortown/status/585611394982277121 It's not Jen Taylor.] Still waiting to hear back from Jennifer Hale. [[User:Jarmatus|Jarmatus]] ([[User talk:Jarmatus|talk]]) 21:23, 7 April 2015 (EDT)


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:I believe that is what is called a "stress test." I'm guessing this was ''meant'' for exactly that, but is going to rapidly devolve into an accidental full disclosure of the Spartan-II Program that proves politically catastrophic for the UEG, and devastating for ONI's remaining good faith, and now ONI has to clean up their mess - by disposing of the evidence, including the legend himself, and replacing him with a ''new'' legend, Locke, and again it devolves into a rapidly spiraling situation that turns Locke and John against ONI.
:I believe that is what is called a "stress test." I'm guessing this was ''meant'' for exactly that, but is going to rapidly devolve into an accidental full disclosure of the Spartan-II Program that proves politically catastrophic for the UEG, and devastating for ONI's remaining good faith, and now ONI has to clean up their mess - by disposing of the evidence, including the legend himself, and replacing him with a ''new'' legend, Locke, and again it devolves into a rapidly spiraling situation that turns Locke and John against ONI.


:Additional note of potentially no significance: John+Locke. [[Wikipedia:John Locke|John Locke]]. Relevant to anything? Probably not. But interesting to consider. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 07:59, 13 April 2015 (EDT)
:Additional note of potentially no significance: John+Locke. [[Wikipedia:John Locke|John Locke]]. Relevant to anything? Probably not. But interesting to consider. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 07:59, 13 April 2015 (EDT)


==Episode Four==
==Episode Four==
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:I find it increasingly unlikely that ONI doesn't know damn well what Giraud has been digging up the whole time, and that this series is going to lead up to the full declassification of the Spartan-II Project - but on ONI's terms, by framing it as a cover-up ''from'' ONI by internal renegades like Parangosky, Ackerson and, yes, Halsey. The narrative of individuals being held solely responsible has already been established there. And yes, the damage to ONI will be not inconsiderable. But being able to discredit what they perceive to be a threat-in-waiting by telling the public that the Master Chief, the salvation of Earth and Her Colonies, is more machine now than man is going to have a significant impact on those who would otherwise have been willing to follow his lead. And it allows ONI to look good by airing their own dirty laundry and "investigating" it, which presumably is where Agent Locke comes in. The IIs and IIIs aren't going to like it, there can't be many of them left by now - we know a handful of IIs, including Blue and Naomi, survived; whatever MJOLNIR-equipped III teams survived Reach; and however many Gamma Company members survived whatever they were deployed to during late 2552, which may very well have been Reach. The IVs are the fresh start - can't have a clean slate without wiping it clean first. The IVs even continue the Headhunter tradition of two-man teams for high-risk low-survivability ops, which I would definitely class taking out IIs and IIIs as. A Stalinist purge of "internal threats" on a superhuman level.-- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 05:41, 20 April 2015 (EDT)
:I find it increasingly unlikely that ONI doesn't know damn well what Giraud has been digging up the whole time, and that this series is going to lead up to the full declassification of the Spartan-II Project - but on ONI's terms, by framing it as a cover-up ''from'' ONI by internal renegades like Parangosky, Ackerson and, yes, Halsey. The narrative of individuals being held solely responsible has already been established there. And yes, the damage to ONI will be not inconsiderable. But being able to discredit what they perceive to be a threat-in-waiting by telling the public that the Master Chief, the salvation of Earth and Her Colonies, is more machine now than man is going to have a significant impact on those who would otherwise have been willing to follow his lead. And it allows ONI to look good by airing their own dirty laundry and "investigating" it, which presumably is where Agent Locke comes in. The IIs and IIIs aren't going to like it, there can't be many of them left by now - we know a handful of IIs, including Blue and Naomi, survived; whatever MJOLNIR-equipped III teams survived Reach; and however many Gamma Company members survived whatever they were deployed to during late 2552, which may very well have been Reach. The IVs are the fresh start - can't have a clean slate without wiping it clean first. The IVs even continue the Headhunter tradition of two-man teams for high-risk low-survivability ops, which I would definitely class taking out IIs and IIIs as. A Stalinist purge of "internal threats" on a superhuman level.-- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 05:41, 20 April 2015 (EDT)


==Episode Five==
==Episode Five==
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:I feel like Giraud doesn't want his files to be used by ONI at all. Also, I think Sully intentionally put Giraud on the flight with Walker (he was very insistent that Giraud needed to be on that flight). I think he is still a Chief supporter and wants Giraud to leak out the truth. Plus, what's the chance of Walker and Giraud being on the same flight—the galaxy is huge. I think Sully definitely intervened. - [[User:NightHammer|NightHammer]] ([[User talk:NightHammer|talk]]) 21:37, 26 April 2015 (EDT)
:I feel like Giraud doesn't want his files to be used by ONI at all. Also, I think Sully intentionally put Giraud on the flight with Walker (he was very insistent that Giraud needed to be on that flight). I think he is still a Chief supporter and wants Giraud to leak out the truth. Plus, what's the chance of Walker and Giraud being on the same flight—the galaxy is huge. I think Sully definitely intervened. - [[User:NightHammer|NightHammer]] ([[User talk:NightHammer|talk]]) 21:37, 26 April 2015 (EDT)


::I agree that ''something'' has likely intervened on Giraud's behalf, but somebody suggested on the HBO forums something I hadn't considered - the Assembly. The AI collective micro-managing humanity's survival and rise to power as an interstellar power. It may be that they have decided that ONI needs to be taken down a peg, and have selected declassifying S-II as the way to do it. Yes, you're tainting the Chief and co., and demoralising humanity in the short term, but in the long term the UNSC simply can't ''stop'' making Spartan-IVs now that the technology is there, and ONI has clearly become too powerful, given its actions on Sanghelios and sending Palmer after Halsey, and needs a short, sharp lesson in humility. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 04:59, 27 April 2015 (EDT)
::I agree that ''something'' has likely intervened on Giraud's behalf, but somebody suggested on the HBO forums something I hadn't considered - the Assembly. The AI collective micro-managing humanity's survival and rise to power as an interstellar power. It may be that they have decided that ONI needs to be taken down a peg, and have selected declassifying S-II as the way to do it. Yes, you're tainting the Chief and co., and demoralising humanity in the short term, but in the long term the UNSC simply can't ''stop'' making Spartan-IVs now that the technology is there, and ONI has clearly become too powerful, given its actions on Sanghelios and sending Palmer after Halsey, and needs a short, sharp lesson in humility. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 04:59, 27 April 2015 (EDT)


:::I like the supposition on Sully's angle. Sully knows that he's alive and well today directly because of the intervention of the Master Chief all those years ago so it will be interesting to see his development in this. Is he fully ONI-stooge or is there more than a glimmer of sympathy towards the Chief in bringing his story to light? -[[User:ScaleMaster117|ScaleMaster117]] ([[User talk:ScaleMaster117|talk]]) 09:32, 27 April 2015 (EDT)
:::I like the supposition on Sully's angle. Sully knows that he's alive and well today directly because of the intervention of the Master Chief all those years ago so it will be interesting to see his development in this. Is he fully ONI-stooge or is there more than a glimmer of sympathy towards the Chief in bringing his story to light? -[[User:ScaleMaster117|ScaleMaster117]] ([[User talk:ScaleMaster117|talk]]) 09:32, 27 April 2015 (EDT)
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Petra does have a point in that Ben recording her without her knowledge and then uploading it was a terrible thing to do. Now that ONI knows all about how she kept them from hearing his "treasonous" comments, she could be facing serious trouble of her own. On the other hand, it's a shame that she doesn't feel as driven as Ben to find out what the truth about the coverups is; something very important is clearly being hid here, if it's so bad that they'll drug a guy and put him comatose on a plane, or brainwash homeless guys. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 23:06, 3 May 2015 (EDT)
Petra does have a point in that Ben recording her without her knowledge and then uploading it was a terrible thing to do. Now that ONI knows all about how she kept them from hearing his "treasonous" comments, she could be facing serious trouble of her own. On the other hand, it's a shame that she doesn't feel as driven as Ben to find out what the truth about the coverups is; something very important is clearly being hid here, if it's so bad that they'll drug a guy and put him comatose on a plane, or brainwash homeless guys. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 23:06, 3 May 2015 (EDT)


:What I'm most excited about is this Pharaoh - who I fully expect to be either Halsey, or at a stretch, Parangosky. In fact, I kind of prefer the latter, because then you get the potential that ONI could be trying to salvage this mess by having her pin it on Halsey, who is already persona non grata even before she sided with Jul. I still think something else in the background has to be at work, though I liked the touch of Walker actually being the work of Moradi, and not some AI puppetmasters. Hadn't expected that. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 02:04, 4 May 2015 (EDT)
:What I'm most excited about is this Pharaoh - who I fully expect to be either Halsey, or at a stretch, Parangosky. In fact, I kind of prefer the latter, because then you get the potential that ONI could be trying to salvage this mess by having her pin it on Halsey, who is already persona non grata even before she sided with Jul. I still think something else in the background has to be at work, though I liked the touch of Walker actually being the work of Moradi, and not some AI puppetmasters. Hadn't expected that. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 02:04, 4 May 2015 (EDT)


And now we have the morse code at the end of the episode that leads to "Stolen Gauntlet", which is a Ford video that's posted by someone who's anme is an anagram of "Dr. Halsey"...
And now we have the morse code at the end of the episode that leads to "Stolen Gauntlet", which is a Ford video that's posted by someone who's anme is an anagram of "Dr. Halsey"...
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Episode Seven is...interesting. It finally gets to laying out what we all know (as fans) about Spartan-II, in explicit terms, and gets to the business of what kind of fallout this might have, especially in the future. And we hear FERO for the first time, in a voice-garbled appearance. And we finally have confirmation that the UEG operates a senate, presumably implying an American-style system of government. I was hoping it would retain a General Assembly and Secretary General as holdovers and evolutions of the old UN system, myself, but I think I've resigned myself to the UEG being Space America a while ago.
Episode Seven is...interesting. It finally gets to laying out what we all know (as fans) about Spartan-II, in explicit terms, and gets to the business of what kind of fallout this might have, especially in the future. And we hear FERO for the first time, in a voice-garbled appearance. And we finally have confirmation that the UEG operates a senate, presumably implying an American-style system of government. I was hoping it would retain a General Assembly and Secretary General as holdovers and evolutions of the old UN system, myself, but I think I've resigned myself to the UEG being Space America a while ago.


Looking forward to seeing how things go down in future episodes. I agree with the people who suggested FERO would turn out to be Halsey, given that she doesn't seem interested in overthrowing the UEG as a whole and more in blackening the eye of ONI. It ''could'' turn out to be an Insurrection figure, or disgruntled ONI, but I think 343i would use the pre-existing character. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 18:21, 10 May 2015 (EDT)
Looking forward to seeing how things go down in future episodes. I agree with the people who suggested FERO would turn out to be Halsey, given that she doesn't seem interested in overthrowing the UEG as a whole and more in blackening the eye of ONI. It ''could'' turn out to be an Insurrection figure, or disgruntled ONI, but I think 343i would use the pre-existing character. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 18:21, 10 May 2015 (EDT)
:I really hope it's Halsey. And I really hope Jul pops on the line too.[[User:Sith Venator|<span style="color:green">Sith-venator Wavingstrider</span>]] [[File:Fett helmet.jpg|20px]] ([[User talk:Sith Venator|<span style="color:blue">Commlink</span>]]) 18:27, 10 May 2015 (EDT)
:I really hope it's Halsey. And I really hope Jul pops on the line too.[[User:Sith Venator|<span style="color:green">Sith-venator Wavingstrider</span>]] ([[User talk:Sith Venator|<span style="color:blue">Commlink</span>]]) 18:27, 10 May 2015 (EDT)
::"We will deliver a headline, that will wake up the whole of-"
::"We will deliver a headline, that will wake up the whole of-"
::"Honey? Honey, I need the phone."
::"Honey? Honey, I need the phone."
::"Hold on a minute Jul dear, I'm on a call."
::"Hold on a minute Jul dear, I'm on a call."
::"But you're aaaaaalwaaaaaays on a call!" -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 19:40, 10 May 2015 (EDT)
::"But you're aaaaaalwaaaaaays on a call!" -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 19:40, 10 May 2015 (EDT)
:::All power to the Halsey+Jul shipping.XD[[User:Sith Venator|<span style="color:green">Sith-venator Wavingstrider</span>]] [[File:Fett helmet.jpg|20px]] ([[User talk:Sith Venator|<span style="color:blue">Commlink</span>]]) 19:42, 10 May 2015 (EDT)
:::All power to the Halsey+Jul shipping.XD[[User:Sith Venator|<span style="color:green">Sith-venator Wavingstrider</span>]] ([[User talk:Sith Venator|<span style="color:blue">Commlink</span>]]) 19:42, 10 May 2015 (EDT)


The description of a flash-clone's life was horrifying, and it's the first confirmation since ''Homecoming'' that the clones were, in fact, sapient people. Being forced to grow up rapidly so you can die... geez. ''Glasslands'' may have been too fixated on singling out flash-cloning as the supposed worst part of the Spartan Program, but hearing this perhaps makes it clear why they chose that aspect in particular. I wouldn't mind a short story from the POV of a flash-clone; it might be a depiction similar to [http://ansible.wikia.com/wiki/Anton%27s_Key Anton's Key] in the ''Ender's Game'' books.
The description of a flash-clone's life was horrifying, and it's the first confirmation since ''Homecoming'' that the clones were, in fact, sapient people. Being forced to grow up rapidly so you can die... geez. ''Glasslands'' may have been too fixated on singling out flash-cloning as the supposed worst part of the Spartan Program, but hearing this perhaps makes it clear why they chose that aspect in particular. I wouldn't mind a short story from the POV of a flash-clone; it might be a depiction similar to [http://ansible.wikia.com/wiki/Anton%27s_Key Anton's Key] in the ''Ender's Game'' books.
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*ONI turning the Spartans against the same colonies they came from suggests more authoritarian plans with the S-IIs that they had in mind after putting down the rebels. I wonder if this had a factor in how [[Assembly#Great War|an AI of the Assembly contacted the Covenant the year the S-IIs became operational]]. It may have feared that letting the Spartan Program continue for another year would result in escalating the Insurrection and tearing humanity apart sooner, so it opted to distract humanity with the invading interstellar empire before the Insurrection could prepare a counter-punch. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 19:04, 17 May 2015 (EDT)
*ONI turning the Spartans against the same colonies they came from suggests more authoritarian plans with the S-IIs that they had in mind after putting down the rebels. I wonder if this had a factor in how [[Assembly#Great War|an AI of the Assembly contacted the Covenant the year the S-IIs became operational]]. It may have feared that letting the Spartan Program continue for another year would result in escalating the Insurrection and tearing humanity apart sooner, so it opted to distract humanity with the invading interstellar empire before the Insurrection could prepare a counter-punch. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 19:04, 17 May 2015 (EDT)


:I'm guessing this is a cover story for something else entirely. Maybe the core of the story is true - peace talks, the Chief turning up - but the actual setup and events happened differently. All we "see" is the Chief, ''seemingly'' unprovoked, firing on human security forces - we have only assumption and FERO's word they were a peace delegation. I also find it suspicious that they say alien, but not Covenant. Given how hostile the remaining Forerunner constructs and only living Forerunner encountered have been, my guess is that this was a first contact scenario that went bad. Last time the UNSC had a disastrous first contact, it resulted in nearly thirty years of war and hundreds of destroyed colonies. Pinning the blame on the Chief might be somebody's way of absolving humanity as a whole of blame to try again. In addition, I don't trust someone from the Insurrection, any more than I do ONI. We've seen what the Insurrection is capable of and if they're not quite as monstrous as ONI's actions, it is from a lack of resources, not a lack of ambition. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 20:14, 17 May 2015 (EDT)
:I'm guessing this is a cover story for something else entirely. Maybe the core of the story is true - peace talks, the Chief turning up - but the actual setup and events happened differently. All we "see" is the Chief, ''seemingly'' unprovoked, firing on human security forces - we have only assumption and FERO's word they were a peace delegation. I also find it suspicious that they say alien, but not Covenant. Given how hostile the remaining Forerunner constructs and only living Forerunner encountered have been, my guess is that this was a first contact scenario that went bad. Last time the UNSC had a disastrous first contact, it resulted in nearly thirty years of war and hundreds of destroyed colonies. Pinning the blame on the Chief might be somebody's way of absolving humanity as a whole of blame to try again. In addition, I don't trust someone from the Insurrection, any more than I do ONI. We've seen what the Insurrection is capable of and if they're not quite as monstrous as ONI's actions, it is from a lack of resources, not a lack of ambition. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 20:14, 17 May 2015 (EDT)


==Episode Nine==
==Episode Nine==
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==Episode Ten==
==Episode Ten==
This is definitely an interesting one. I knew we would be seeing more of Del Rio, but I certainly didn't expect it to be this way. How does a disgraced Navy Captain spin that into a successful political campaign? Of course, given recent events I imagine he could turn that into a "not part of the CURRENT military establishment." And as for what we learn about the Chief...I knew it. I friggin' knew it. There had to be something more, and there was. This [[Sapien Sunrise]] group sound fairly sinister, but also make me really hopeful that we'll face human enemies for the first time in the games. I can't help thinking that the Biko thing has to be a trap, though - something tantalising enough to lure him out, away from Earth, in a remote space far from observers where the UNSC won't be recorded snatching a rogue journalist. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 18:21, 31 May 2015 (EDT)
This is definitely an interesting one. I knew we would be seeing more of Del Rio, but I certainly didn't expect it to be this way. How does a disgraced Navy Captain spin that into a successful political campaign? Of course, given recent events I imagine he could turn that into a "not part of the CURRENT military establishment." And as for what we learn about the Chief...I knew it. I friggin' knew it. There had to be something more, and there was. This [[Sapien Sunrise]] group sound fairly sinister, but also make me really hopeful that we'll face human enemies for the first time in the games. I can't help thinking that the Biko thing has to be a trap, though - something tantalising enough to lure him out, away from Earth, in a remote space far from observers where the UNSC won't be recorded snatching a rogue journalist. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 18:21, 31 May 2015 (EDT)
:There goes my janitor theory.[[User:Sith Venator|<span style="color:green">Sith Venator</span>]] [[File:Mega Blastoise.gif|20px]] ([[User talk:Sith Venator|<span style="color:blue">Dank Memes</span>]]) 18:34, 31 May 2015 (EDT)
:There goes my janitor theory.[[User:Sith Venator|<span style="color:green">Sith Venator</span>]] ([[User talk:Sith Venator|<span style="color:blue">Dank Memes</span>]]) 18:34, 31 May 2015 (EDT)
::Mind if I join? It's Bliss that the coordinates led to, Sith, and I pretty sure that the UEG had Senatorial elections in 2557, so its possible that Del Rio. As all all know Bliss was an Outer Colony  with (possibly) 500 million civilians living there and was glassed in 2526 after a short battle against the Covenant, I'm surprised that humanity haven't gotten around to reterraforming and resettling the colony. - EpicZealot1239
::Mind if I join? It's Bliss that the coordinates led to, Sith, and I pretty sure that the UEG had Senatorial elections in 2557, so its possible that Del Rio. As all all know Bliss was an Outer Colony  with (possibly) 500 million civilians living there and was glassed in 2526 after a short battle against the Covenant, I'm surprised that humanity haven't gotten around to reterraforming and resettling the colony. - EpicZealot1239


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:I have a feeling that he will be meeting NCA operatives or an associate that has been aiding Blue Team. I honestly don't expect it to be a trap, since I'm sure ONI would rather trap him on a non-glassed world. Also, it'd be awesome if the people that were taking Ben to Bliss were Kig-Yar. - [[User:NightHammer|NightHammer]] ([[User talk:NightHammer|talk]]) 19:21, 31 May 2015 (EDT)
:I have a feeling that he will be meeting NCA operatives or an associate that has been aiding Blue Team. I honestly don't expect it to be a trap, since I'm sure ONI would rather trap him on a non-glassed world. Also, it'd be awesome if the people that were taking Ben to Bliss were Kig-Yar. - [[User:NightHammer|NightHammer]] ([[User talk:NightHammer|talk]]) 19:21, 31 May 2015 (EDT)
::I would like it to be Kig-Yar, but I doubt it will be. :/ [[User:Sith Venator|<span style="color:green">Sith Venator</span>]] [[File:Mega Blastoise.gif|20px]] ([[User talk:Sith Venator|<span style="color:blue">Dank Memes</span>]]) 19:24, 31 May 2015 (EDT)
::I would like it to be Kig-Yar, but I doubt it will be. :/ [[User:Sith Venator|<span style="color:green">Sith Venator</span>]] ([[User talk:Sith Venator|<span style="color:blue">Dank Memes</span>]]) 19:24, 31 May 2015 (EDT)


:::I don't know. I agree it is unlikely, but Petra and Ben put emphasize on how the freighter owners were hardcore capitalists and "these people only speak bribe", which kind of sounds like the Kig-Yar. Obviously, they can still be humans of course. - [[User:NightHammer|NightHammer]] ([[User talk:NightHammer|talk]]) 19:30, 31 May 2015 (EDT)
:::I don't know. I agree it is unlikely, but Petra and Ben put emphasize on how the freighter owners were hardcore capitalists and "these people only speak bribe", which kind of sounds like the Kig-Yar. Obviously, they can still be humans of course. - [[User:NightHammer|NightHammer]] ([[User talk:NightHammer|talk]]) 19:30, 31 May 2015 (EDT)


::::We need the Kig-Yar captain to be like [https://youtu.be/_ftOJBJL7bc?t=4m40s Edward Kenway]. Now you got me really hyped up on the idea it's Kig-Yar.[[User:Sith Venator|<span style="color:green">Sith Venator</span>]] [[File:Mega Blastoise.gif|20px]] ([[User talk:Sith Venator|<span style="color:blue">Dank Memes</span>]]) 19:44, 31 May 2015 (EDT)
::::We need the Kig-Yar captain to be like [https://youtu.be/_ftOJBJL7bc?t=4m40s Edward Kenway]. Now you got me really hyped up on the idea it's Kig-Yar.[[User:Sith Venator|<span style="color:green">Sith Venator</span>]] ([[User talk:Sith Venator|<span style="color:blue">Dank Memes</span>]]) 19:44, 31 May 2015 (EDT)


:::::I don't like the fact that I recognized that song from Lazy Town... And watch the freighter owners end up being Yonhet (which I wouldn't entirely mind either, but still, Kig-Yar are way better). - [[User:NightHammer|NightHammer]] ([[User talk:NightHammer|talk]]) 19:50, 31 May 2015 (EDT)
:::::I don't like the fact that I recognized that song from Lazy Town... And watch the freighter owners end up being Yonhet (which I wouldn't entirely mind either, but still, Kig-Yar are way better). - [[User:NightHammer|NightHammer]] ([[User talk:NightHammer|talk]]) 19:50, 31 May 2015 (EDT)


::::::I didn't even know where it came from. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLMJpHihykI Until now]. Or it could be a mixed crew, with some Unggoy too![[User:Sith Venator|<span style="color:green">Sith Venator</span>]] [[File:Mega Blastoise.gif|20px]] ([[User talk:Sith Venator|<span style="color:blue">Dank Memes</span>]]) 19:57, 31 May 2015 (EDT)
::::::I didn't even know where it came from. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SLMJpHihykI Until now]. Or it could be a mixed crew, with some Unggoy too![[User:Sith Venator|<span style="color:green">Sith Venator</span>]] ([[User talk:Sith Venator|<span style="color:blue">Dank Memes</span>]]) 19:57, 31 May 2015 (EDT)


:::::::It was nice hearing the Sangheili kaidon in this episode though. If a Sangheili can "appear", I'm sure Kig-Yar and Unggoy can as well.- [[User:NightHammer|NightHammer]] ([[User talk:NightHammer|talk]]) 20:19, 31 May 2015 (EDT)
:::::::It was nice hearing the Sangheili kaidon in this episode though. If a Sangheili can "appear", I'm sure Kig-Yar and Unggoy can as well.- [[User:NightHammer|NightHammer]] ([[User talk:NightHammer|talk]]) 20:19, 31 May 2015 (EDT)
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:It was obvious from the start that there had to be more to the Biko attack than it seemed. While it didn't feel like a cop-out to me the reveal was a little soon — I was expecting more of a buildup. And though Del Rio's reappearance was surprising to me, he clearly hasn't changed one bit. Something I'm curious about is how Ben is going to make his 72 hour deadline to the borders of human space in a non-military vessel. Those post-war Forerunner upgrades must've really panned out. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 01:41, 1 June 2015 (EDT)
:It was obvious from the start that there had to be more to the Biko attack than it seemed. While it didn't feel like a cop-out to me the reveal was a little soon — I was expecting more of a buildup. And though Del Rio's reappearance was surprising to me, he clearly hasn't changed one bit. Something I'm curious about is how Ben is going to make his 72 hour deadline to the borders of human space in a non-military vessel. Those post-war Forerunner upgrades must've really panned out. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 01:41, 1 June 2015 (EDT)
::Unless it really is a group of Kig-Yar or Yohnet.[[User:Sith Venator|<span style="color:green">Sith Venator</span>]] [[File:Mega Blastoise.gif|20px]] ([[User talk:Sith Venator|<span style="color:blue">Dank Memes</span>]]) 01:52, 1 June 2015 (EDT)
::Unless it really is a group of Kig-Yar or Yohnet.[[User:Sith Venator|<span style="color:green">Sith Venator</span>]] ([[User talk:Sith Venator|<span style="color:blue">Dank Memes</span>]]) 01:52, 1 June 2015 (EDT)
:::I hope it is. On a side note, it's funny when you imagine that in-universe, Ben actually had to edit in the heroic music wherever it comes up. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 07:39, 1 June 2015 (EDT)
:::I hope it is. On a side note, it's funny when you imagine that in-universe, Ben actually had to edit in the heroic music wherever it comes up. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 07:39, 1 June 2015 (EDT)


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*Once again we don't hear John's last name. I'm going to imagine it is "Chief". He is Mr. Chief. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 23:39, 7 June 2015 (EDT)
*Once again we don't hear John's last name. I'm going to imagine it is "Chief". He is Mr. Chief. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 23:39, 7 June 2015 (EDT)


The freighter dudes were just human booooo.[[User:Sith Venator|<span style="color:green">Sith Venator</span>]] [[File:Mega Blastoise.gif|20px]] ([[User talk:Sith Venator|<span style="color:blue">Dank Memes</span>]]) 00:50, 8 June 2015 (EDT)
The freighter dudes were just human booooo.[[User:Sith Venator|<span style="color:green">Sith Venator</span>]] ([[User talk:Sith Venator|<span style="color:blue">Dank Memes</span>]]) 00:50, 8 June 2015 (EDT)


:Oh my, that imagery of the glassed surface and environment was absolutely spectacular, definitely one of my favourite parts of this. Yeah, I'm leaning toward "likely" that Ben is really dead and these were released by someone else; everything we're hearing are his ''in-universe'' releases mind you, (we really ''are'' his audience), so it would be interesting how they would do that. I mean, at some point here he's going to have to actually take the time to put together and narrate everything we're hearing; I suspect at some point next episode the narration will switch to present tense, and his final time in the episode (whether he dies or not) will be with him while he finishes narrating (as in, ends with "This is Ben Giraud signing off" sort of thing). I'm curious though, he has all this info and has told his audience about it as of present (his in-universe listeners are literally hearing what we're hearing), so I'm wondering how they'll end up keeping John a semi-villain in the public's eye after this. I suppose the comm blackouts take care of this reasonably well, but we'll see. Also, I was completely caught off guard by the ''lack'' of cliffhanger, at least in the tense, negative sense of the term. I'm still thinking whatever we see at E3 will be framed with this whole Hunt The Truth thing in some way. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] ([[User talk:Alex T Snow|talk]]) 02:14, 8 June 2015 (EDT)
:Oh my, that imagery of the glassed surface and environment was absolutely spectacular, definitely one of my favourite parts of this. Yeah, I'm leaning toward "likely" that Ben is really dead and these were released by someone else; everything we're hearing are his ''in-universe'' releases mind you, (we really ''are'' his audience), so it would be interesting how they would do that. I mean, at some point here he's going to have to actually take the time to put together and narrate everything we're hearing; I suspect at some point next episode the narration will switch to present tense, and his final time in the episode (whether he dies or not) will be with him while he finishes narrating (as in, ends with "This is Ben Giraud signing off" sort of thing). I'm curious though, he has all this info and has told his audience about it as of present (his in-universe listeners are literally hearing what we're hearing), so I'm wondering how they'll end up keeping John a semi-villain in the public's eye after this. I suppose the comm blackouts take care of this reasonably well, but we'll see. Also, I was completely caught off guard by the ''lack'' of cliffhanger, at least in the tense, negative sense of the term. I'm still thinking whatever we see at E3 will be framed with this whole Hunt The Truth thing in some way. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] ([[User talk:Alex T Snow|talk]]) 02:14, 8 June 2015 (EDT)
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:Not sure on the will-he-won't-he survive front. According to the framing narrative, Giraud is releasing these as he goes to get feedback from the public about it - I suppose it's conceivable that the last log will end with Giraud signing off mid-way, then continuing with someone else (Mshak? Janacek?) telling the audience that they found Giraud dead, and are releasing the last bit of his work in memoriam. But I think I'd rather he survive, knowing that his irresponsible journalism has had much more effect than airing ONI and Earth's dirty laundry, but has created massive destabilisation that can be exploited by...outside interests, known and unknown.
:Not sure on the will-he-won't-he survive front. According to the framing narrative, Giraud is releasing these as he goes to get feedback from the public about it - I suppose it's conceivable that the last log will end with Giraud signing off mid-way, then continuing with someone else (Mshak? Janacek?) telling the audience that they found Giraud dead, and are releasing the last bit of his work in memoriam. But I think I'd rather he survive, knowing that his irresponsible journalism has had much more effect than airing ONI and Earth's dirty laundry, but has created massive destabilisation that can be exploited by...outside interests, known and unknown.


:I also can't help thinking the attention given to FERO suggests she could be a major figure - not necessarily in Halo 5, but perhaps other future media. I would love a novel set from the Insurrectionist point of view, and with groups like the URF on the rebound, and new groups like the NCA forming, there's a plethora of potential perspectives to see that from - groups who just want to secede and live on their own terms, other who want to go further and tear down the UEG, people who believe their ideology and people in it for money as mercs or informants. There's a diverse potential cast to an Insurrectionist story, one where the Innie protagonists can be likeable and believable but without lauding all of the Insurrection's atrocities - just because the camps in Elysium were disproved doesn't mean the camps across the rest of Eridanus II didn't happen, not does it excuse the bombings of UNSC clubs we saw in Dirt. The Cole Protocol was an interesting look at the Insurrection, but it was overshadowed by the threat of the Covenant. I'd like to know how things go down when humanity isn't facing constant threat of glassing at the same time - both sides have more time and energy to devote to attacking each other. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 07:54, 8 June 2015 (EDT)
:I also can't help thinking the attention given to FERO suggests she could be a major figure - not necessarily in Halo 5, but perhaps other future media. I would love a novel set from the Insurrectionist point of view, and with groups like the URF on the rebound, and new groups like the NCA forming, there's a plethora of potential perspectives to see that from - groups who just want to secede and live on their own terms, other who want to go further and tear down the UEG, people who believe their ideology and people in it for money as mercs or informants. There's a diverse potential cast to an Insurrectionist story, one where the Innie protagonists can be likeable and believable but without lauding all of the Insurrection's atrocities - just because the camps in Elysium were disproved doesn't mean the camps across the rest of Eridanus II didn't happen, not does it excuse the bombings of UNSC clubs we saw in Dirt. The Cole Protocol was an interesting look at the Insurrection, but it was overshadowed by the threat of the Covenant. I'd like to know how things go down when humanity isn't facing constant threat of glassing at the same time - both sides have more time and energy to devote to attacking each other. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 07:54, 8 June 2015 (EDT)


I, for one, am leaning toward AI intervention in Ben's hunt for the Truth. I'm also tentatively leaning toward some shard of Cortana being involved and here's why:
I, for one, am leaning toward AI intervention in Ben's hunt for the Truth. I'm also tentatively leaning toward some shard of Cortana being involved and here's why:
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Granted, the existence of that relay could have been what Mshak was trying to tell Ben, but it ended up going to Petra in the event of Mshak's death or after he went dark (indeed, her dialogue strongly hints at that in Episode 10)... However, someone or something allowed Ben to pull up all manner of info to clear the Chief's name, expose the truth about the SPARTAN II program & the ONI cover-up, but then prevented Ben from digging too deeply into the Chief's past by flooding his compad with corrupted files that somehow miraculously didn't spread to the data he just downloaded, then shut the server down as soon as he disconnected from it... That strongly suggests the work of someone close to the Chief, and the description of the brightly glowing standby light on the relay indicates to me that it was being used to somehow send Ben a message to take what he had & get the hell out. Then again, maybe I'm just talkin' outta my a$$ here. Hell, for all I know, this relay thing could still turn out to be Sully, working on the DL to return the favor to the Chief for saving his bacon 32 years earlier.  
Granted, the existence of that relay could have been what Mshak was trying to tell Ben, but it ended up going to Petra in the event of Mshak's death or after he went dark (indeed, her dialogue strongly hints at that in Episode 10)... However, someone or something allowed Ben to pull up all manner of info to clear the Chief's name, expose the truth about the SPARTAN II program & the ONI cover-up, but then prevented Ben from digging too deeply into the Chief's past by flooding his compad with corrupted files that somehow miraculously didn't spread to the data he just downloaded, then shut the server down as soon as he disconnected from it... That strongly suggests the work of someone close to the Chief, and the description of the brightly glowing standby light on the relay indicates to me that it was being used to somehow send Ben a message to take what he had & get the hell out. Then again, maybe I'm just talkin' outta my a$$ here. Hell, for all I know, this relay thing could still turn out to be Sully, working on the DL to return the favor to the Chief for saving his bacon 32 years earlier.  
As for whether or not Ben is still alive at the end of the series, my money's on "Yes", but that he's had to go way underground as well. The bottom line here is that, after all of this, it's either him or ONI; both of them simply cannot publically exist at the same time now, and my money's on ONI coming out on top of that particular contest... So if Ben '''''is''''' still alive, he's gone silent & deep now...[[User:DJenser|DJenser]] ([[User talk:DJenser|talk]]) 10:30, 8 June 2015 (EDT)
As for whether or not Ben is still alive at the end of the series, my money's on "Yes", but that he's had to go way underground as well. The bottom line here is that, after all of this, it's either him or ONI; both of them simply cannot publically exist at the same time now, and my money's on ONI coming out on top of that particular contest... So if Ben '''''is''''' still alive, he's gone silent & deep now...[[User:DJenser|DJenser]] ([[User talk:DJenser|talk]]) 10:30, 8 June 2015 (EDT)
:Well, so much for that theory... If Humanity has any shot at becoming the stewards of the Mantle that the Precursors and the Librarian hoped they would be, the cancer that is ONI needs to be excised, and aggressively.[[User:DJenser|DJenser]] ([[User talk:DJenser|talk]]) 12:44, 15 June 2015 (EDT)


Now that we know FERO isn't Halsey, we're left with the question asking ourselves 'Who exactly is FERO?'
Now that we know FERO isn't Halsey, we're left with the question asking ourselves 'Who exactly is FERO?'
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:You know what would be cool? If Ben "hacked" Microsoft's press conference at E3 and did the ''Halo 5''/whatever else Halo-related reveal live and in character. It'd leave most of the audience confused but it would be the perfect way to wrap up HtT. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 00:44, 9 June 2015 (EDT)
:You know what would be cool? If Ben "hacked" Microsoft's press conference at E3 and did the ''Halo 5''/whatever else Halo-related reveal live and in character. It'd leave most of the audience confused but it would be the perfect way to wrap up HtT. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 00:44, 9 June 2015 (EDT)
::I've been hearing that a lot lately.[[User:Sith Venator|<span style="color:green">Sith Venator</span>]] [[File:Mega Blastoise.gif|20px]] ([[User talk:Sith Venator|<span style="color:blue">Dank Memes</span>]]) 00:46, 9 June 2015 (EDT)
::I've been hearing that a lot lately.[[User:Sith Venator|<span style="color:green">Sith Venator</span>]] ([[User talk:Sith Venator|<span style="color:blue">Dank Memes</span>]]) 00:46, 9 June 2015 (EDT)
:::Jugus, that's exactly what I was thinking earlier in the story, but at that point I figured it was going to be the presentation to the senators. In hindsight however, that was all just info we, the players, already knew, so not a great E3 "reveal". Now that we actually have the potential for good reveal material, I think it's still very likely. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] ([[User talk:Alex T Snow|talk]]) 01:37, 9 June 2015 (EDT)
:::Jugus, that's exactly what I was thinking earlier in the story, but at that point I figured it was going to be the presentation to the senators. In hindsight however, that was all just info we, the players, already knew, so not a great E3 "reveal". Now that we actually have the potential for good reveal material, I think it's still very likely. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] ([[User talk:Alex T Snow|talk]]) 01:37, 9 June 2015 (EDT)


==Episode Twelve==
==Episode Twelve==


In a series that was as rife with cynicism and oppressive atmosphere as this one, I found this particular episode to be quite uplifting and satisfying. In retrospect I guess I deserved that...[[User:DJenser|DJenser]] ([[User talk:DJenser|talk]]) 12:36, 15 June 2015 (EDT)
In a series that was as rife with cynicism and oppressive atmosphere as this one, I found this particular episode to be quite uplifting and satisfying. In retrospect I guess I deserved that...[[User:DJenser|DJenser]] ([[User talk:DJenser|talk]]) 12:36, 15 June 2015 (EDT)
*The minute Ben started saying his goodbyes, I knew his scheme wasn't going to end well.
*We never found out why the UEG senate didn't act on Ben's leak, did we? Does the answer boil down to "because they're a-holes"?
*Ben doesn't seem to agree with Petrovsky's view that Master Chief is just ONI's expensive meat robot. Did he ever view him that way, or was the revelation of what really happened at Biko what's got him to believe that the Chief has a soul after all?
*I hope 343 releases a timeline for the events of the episodes at some point. It'd would be interesting to compare how much time passed between the events of each one. Presumably they're also being released weekly in-universe. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 04:12, 18 June 2015 (EDT)


==Episode Thirteen==
==Episode Thirteen==


Virgil (the poet, not the Huragok) once said "Beware of Greeks bearing gifts"... My, how history repeats itself... I will say this, however: Petra is neither sloppy, nor is she merciful... And she knows how to play dirty.   ONI used her to destroy her friend...This ''will'' get ugly.[[User:DJenser|DJenser]] ([[User talk:DJenser|talk]]) 12:36, 15 June 2015 (EDT)
Virgil (the poet, not the Huragok) once said "Beware of Greeks bearing gifts"... My, how history repeats itself... Petra was right: ONI picked Ben because he had no juice in the journalism profession... He was also sloppy... Both of these factors made him the perfect foil to carry out their plans to take down FERO and cover their tracks. I will say this, however: Petra is not sloppy, nor is she merciful... And she knows how to play dirty. ONI destroyed her friend, just to bring down one UCA cell; and they used her to do it... This ''will'' get ugly. Also, any mention of the "Deep Space Anomalies" seems to have dried up & blown away... Given what I believe they represent in H5:G, I suspect that ONI's decision to declare the Chief & his team as AWOL is going to blow up in their faces & provide Petra with a perfect opportunity. [[User:DJenser|DJenser]] ([[User talk:DJenser|talk]]) 12:36, 15 June 2015 (EDT)
 
:My impression was that ONI's whole plan from the start was to use Ben for exactly what he ended up doing: hanging out their dirty laundry, just so they could frame him as a conspiracy nut who made it up. It's genius really; ''everyone'' knows the Spartan secrets now, yet no one will every actually believe they're true. It also seems like Sully may have actually been a bit of a good guy after all (which is what I'd expect, given they brought back ''him'', of all people they could have put in that role): "Glassed planets have bad records." Considering how elaborate ONI's schemes are, and how well their people know how to cover their tracks, hide their intentions, and all that, I don't think it's a stretch that Sully was trying to warn Ben about Bliss. I've seen suggestions that the story, with Petra handling it, could be the focus of the upcoming TV series, and whether it turns out to be that or not, it is interesting that they intentionally made her pistol a real-world firearm. Certainly would make live action filming a lot easier. Food for thought, at least. [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] ([[User talk:Alex T Snow|talk]]) 16:53, 15 June 2015 (EDT)
 
*That interviewer's voice reminds me way too much of [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RYfZAT5ZIc Duke's] (link is sorta raunchy)
*Sorta sad that [[Believe]] was never referenced, but I'm good with this series' plot otherwise. ONI did need to step up their cracking down though; Ben protesting Sully a second time should have been the red flag to arrange an unfortunate accident for him.
*I don't really see any way that Sully comes out of this with his hands clean, based on the theory of him being a double agent. He was there when Ben leaked the truth about the Spartans to the senate. Had he encouraged the senate to look into it, he would have been able to keep the info from getting public while also providing the Chief some long-deserved repayment. His position of power also suggests he was well aware of ONI framing the Biko attack on the Chief, and yet he waited until the very last minute to reveal Chief's innocence merely because the coverup had become inconvenient. Not to mention all of Ben's home and possessions being gutted, being treated like trash after finding Walker, and having assassins sent after him.
*I admit, I'm rather surprised at how prominent Petra has become in the Halo universe despite debuting as a minor character in a reprint add-on. It would almost strike me as a "[http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/SpotlightStealingSquad Check out my awesome OC!]" for her to be everywhere, except that she's actually a compelling character, if something of a [http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/KnightInSourArmor Knight in Sour Armor]. I do hope that they'll soon address what it is that she theorized about the Ark, though; I worry that her original plot thread with that might have been left hanging.
*The status quo appears to be back to normal with this last episode, mostly. If that was the goal, then it makes sense that the truth of Biko crisis would be addressed so soon. I guess I'm left wondering how much any of these events will affect ''Guardians'', since it's all equalized in the end, mostly. Maybe just that Petra, Ben, and Sapien Sunrise might make a cameo.
*And it appears one of the writers of Hunt the Truth [https://twitter.com/Tuckerscreator/status/610263229529337857 favorited] [https://twitter.com/Tuckerscreator/status/610263348635045888 my tweets] comparing the last episode to a Key and Peele sketch.
*Overall, I give it an 8.5 out of ten. It copped out on some of its plot points, including at the end, but what it added to the ''Halo'' universe and with its characters was invaluable and leagues above other recent Halo works. I wouldn't mind at all seeing more ARGs like it. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]<sup>([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])</sup> 04:12, 18 June 2015 (EDT)
 
::I simply can't believe all this was ONI's roundabout way of breaking the news gently to the public, to test the waters so to speak. For something with ONIs resources and expertise, there have to be better, cleaner, and less double-edged ways to do it. I don't think Sully was trying to throw Ben to the wolves, or warn him off - I think he expected Ben to do the job they expected, and tried to get him back on track without having to "liquidate" a valuable PR asset. I don't know if that reflects well or badly on him. As for the end, with Ben discredited, Petrosky scared enough of ONI to recant, Kurzig disappeared, and Petra ready to take up where Ben left off with scalpel-like focus and much more skill at the job, I eagerly await word of whether we'll get a season two of Hunt the Truth.
::As for repercussions this is going to have, we now have a resurgent Insurrection not only stirred up by these (supposedly) discredited rumours of ONI child abductions and typical UEG dismissal of the last Outer Colonies, but also furious at the thought of peace with the former genocidal zealots that wiped out their homes and families on a cosmic scale. I fully expect ONI to actually be telling the truth about FERO being complicit with Sapien Sunrise - I always thought the cherrypicking of that footage was a deliberate Insurrectionist attempt to throw mud at the Chief, Knight in Shining Armour of the UNSC. I also expect Petra to be almost as furious about the way FERO treated Ben as she is at the way ONI destroyed him, and to get a glimpse of the state of the post-war Insurrection. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 07:49, 18 June 2015 (EDT)
:::I agree that ONI's intention wasn't to expose the SPARTAN II program in a way that makes it less believable. They basically did to Ben what he was attempting to do to them, while clearing out a particularly pesky terrorist cell in the process. Ben was nothing more than a pawn from the beginning: ONI's, FERO's, it doesn't really matter. His broadcasts were a means to an end. Had he kept his mouth shut & done the job as originally intended, he'dve come away unscathed and financially more well-off. If not, well, he was a much smaller fish in that particular pond than, say, Petra Janecek or Charles Kesler; being a much less experienced journalist than Petra, or a much less prolific public commentator than Kesler made it much easier to so thoroughly discredit him. His broadcasts also made him an attractive target for Insurrectionists to promote their agenda... A fact which ONI could (and did) also use to their advantage. Was it really some overarching plot hatched by ONI to make the skeletons in their collective closet more palatable by making them appear to be the insane ravings of a conspiracy theorist, while at the same time setting up a terrorist organization to take the fall behind the scenes? Hardly... It was damage control, plain and simple. As soon as Ben released his first few episodes, revealing that ONI's scheduling & flight protocols had been compromised & that a suspected terrorist was involved, they locked down any references to the Chief, including the Biko massacre, and began formulating a comprehensive plan to deal with the threats. When the Biko footage was released, ONI deduced that the Saps would try to discredit the Chief by blaming him for the massacre & reasoned that FERO would try to use this angle to attack them publically through Ben's broadcasts, so they suppressed the unedited footage for later release. After the Senate hearings, ONI clamped down on all communications, then set up a Trojan horse on Bliss, stockpiling weapons and a bogus relay in a supposedly abandoned ONI facility. They began to put the squeeze on Ben by clearing out his accounts and evacuating his block, stripping his apartment down to the concrete. Then, they anonymously passed the Bliss server off as a tip to Ben anonymously through Janecek, getting her to unknowingly do their dirty work for them, leveraging Ben's trust in her as well as his sense of obligation for implicating her in his previous broadcast. Once he took the bait on Bliss, it was all but over... All they had to do was pull the rug out from under him on live TV, like he'd tried to do.
:::As for trying to warn Ben off, a lot of people tried to get Ben to either run the piece as intended or simply cut his losses and keep quiet... Sully tried in Episodes 2, 5 and 9. Petra tried in Episodes 4, 6, 10 and 12. Hell, even Petrosky tried to discourage him from pushing any further in Episode 12. In the end, what did Ben in was (as Sully and our own [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] pointed out) the fact that Glassed Planets Have Bad Records... That ended up biting him in the ass...[[User:DJenser|DJenser]] ([[User talk:DJenser|talk]]) 16:15, 18 June 2015 (EDT)