Forum:Hunt the Truth: Difference between revisions

::My interpretation was that the Master Chief was just one of many before the Fall of Reach, not given any special PR over the rest of the Spartans, until there were practically no more Spartans left, and he had to become the focus. As for whether the public know about the S-IIs true origins, Mal and Vaz in Glasslands didn't know about it by 2553, and as far as I know the UEG was still holding hearings about S-II and III. Nothing to say ONI didn't lie to them, or even that the UEG would declassify the whole story to the public.

:::I recall Parangosky was planning to make the S-IIs and their files public as of the Kilo-Five books, though it's possible it was just for some government committee who then promptly decided to keep the whole thing under wraps (which would be the sensible thing to do, unless Maggie wanted to bring ONI and the UNSC crashing down with her).

As for Silva, he commanded the ODSTs John killed and maimed aboard the ''Atlas''. If ONI were willing to tell anyone about the SPARTAN-II program back then it would be the man who'd just lost several Helljumpers to a fourteen-year-old. Maybe the "kidnapped children" rumors were prevalent enough by 2552 that he didn't mind spilling the beans in front of McKay. John's lack of a reaction (even from his own POV) is rather odd, though. --[[User:Braidenvl|<span style="color:gray">'''''Our answer is at hand.'''''</span>]] ([[User talk:Braidenvl|<span style="color:gray">Talk to me.</span>]]) 09:37, 30 March 2015 (EDT)

:Thought I'd put this here before I got any feedback, in case I'm being hasty. Meant for the trivia section on the Hunt the Truth article, but holding off until someone else comments.

*In the image containing purported evidence of John's death at the age of 6, the partly circular symbols visible at the top of the page appear to be [[w:c:TARDIS:Gallifreyan (language)|circular Gallifreyan text]] from [[w:c:TARDIS:Doctor_Who|Doctor Who]], likely generated using a fan-made font.

==Episode Two==

::Yeah, I heard a bit of Halsey in there, but I could see it being Hale. - [[User:NightHammer|NightHammer]] ([[User talk:NightHammer|talk]]) 21:54, 5 April 2015 (EDT)

:::I'm pretty sure I hear Jennifer Hale. --[[User:Braidenvl|<span style="color:gray">'''''Our answer is at hand.'''''</span>]] ([[User talk:Braidenvl|<span style="color:gray">Talk to me.</span>]]) 09:19, 6 April 2015 (EDT)

:::::[https://twitter.com/jentaylortown/status/585611394982277121 It's not Jen Taylor.] Still waiting to hear back from Jennifer Hale. [[User:Jarmatus|Jarmatus]] ([[User talk:Jarmatus|talk]]) 21:23, 7 April 2015 (EDT)

:I believe that is what is called a "stress test." I'm guessing this was ''meant'' for exactly that, but is going to rapidly devolve into an accidental full disclosure of the Spartan-II Program that proves politically catastrophic for the UEG, and devastating for ONI's remaining good faith, and now ONI has to clean up their mess - by disposing of the evidence, including the legend himself, and replacing him with a ''new'' legend, Locke, and again it devolves into a rapidly spiraling situation that turns Locke and John against ONI.

==Episode Four==

==Episode Five==

:I feel like Giraud doesn't want his files to be used by ONI at all. Also, I think Sully intentionally put Giraud on the flight with Walker (he was very insistent that Giraud needed to be on that flight). I think he is still a Chief supporter and wants Giraud to leak out the truth. Plus, what's the chance of Walker and Giraud being on the same flight—the galaxy is huge. I think Sully definitely intervened. - [[User:NightHammer|NightHammer]] ([[User talk:NightHammer|talk]]) 21:37, 26 April 2015 (EDT)

:::I like the supposition on Sully's angle. Sully knows that he's alive and well today directly because of the intervention of the Master Chief all those years ago so it will be interesting to see his development in this. Is he fully ONI-stooge or is there more than a glimmer of sympathy towards the Chief in bringing his story to light? -[[User:ScaleMaster117|ScaleMaster117]] ([[User talk:ScaleMaster117|talk]]) 09:32, 27 April 2015 (EDT)

Petra does have a point in that Ben recording her without her knowledge and then uploading it was a terrible thing to do. Now that ONI knows all about how she kept them from hearing his "treasonous" comments, she could be facing serious trouble of her own. On the other hand, it's a shame that she doesn't feel as driven as Ben to find out what the truth about the coverups is; something very important is clearly being hid here, if it's so bad that they'll drug a guy and put him comatose on a plane, or brainwash homeless guys. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]^{([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])} 23:06, 3 May 2015 (EDT)

And now we have the morse code at the end of the episode that leads to "Stolen Gauntlet", which is a Ford video that's posted by someone who's anme is an anagram of "Dr. Halsey"...

Episode Seven is...interesting. It finally gets to laying out what we all know (as fans) about Spartan-II, in explicit terms, and gets to the business of what kind of fallout this might have, especially in the future. And we hear FERO for the first time, in a voice-garbled appearance. And we finally have confirmation that the UEG operates a senate, presumably implying an American-style system of government. I was hoping it would retain a General Assembly and Secretary General as holdovers and evolutions of the old UN system, myself, but I think I've resigned myself to the UEG being Space America a while ago.

:I really hope it's Halsey. And I really hope Jul pops on the line too.[[User:Sith Venator|<span style="color:green">Sith-venator Wavingstrider</span>]] ([[User talk:Sith Venator|<span style="color:blue">Commlink</span>]]) 18:27, 10 May 2015 (EDT)

::"We will deliver a headline, that will wake up the whole of-"

::"Honey? Honey, I need the phone."

::"Hold on a minute Jul dear, I'm on a call."

:::All power to the Halsey+Jul shipping.XD[[User:Sith Venator|<span style="color:green">Sith-venator Wavingstrider</span>]] ([[User talk:Sith Venator|<span style="color:blue">Commlink</span>]]) 19:42, 10 May 2015 (EDT)

*ONI turning the Spartans against the same colonies they came from suggests more authoritarian plans with the S-IIs that they had in mind after putting down the rebels. I wonder if this had a factor in how [[Assembly#Great War|an AI of the Assembly contacted the Covenant the year the S-IIs became operational]]. It may have feared that letting the Spartan Program continue for another year would result in escalating the Insurrection and tearing humanity apart sooner, so it opted to distract humanity with the invading interstellar empire before the Insurrection could prepare a counter-punch. [[User:Tuckerscreator|<span style="color:#6600cc;">'''''Tuckerscreator'''''</span>]]^{([[User talk:Tuckerscreator|<font color="#008000">stalk</font>]])} 19:04, 17 May 2015 (EDT)

==Episode Nine==

==Episode Ten==

:There goes my janitor theory.[[User:Sith Venator|<span style="color:green">Sith Venator</span>]] ([[User talk:Sith Venator|<span style="color:blue">Dank Memes</span>]]) 18:34, 31 May 2015 (EDT)

::Mind if I join? It's Bliss that the coordinates led to, Sith, and I pretty sure that the UEG had Senatorial elections in 2557, so its possible that Del Rio. As all all know Bliss was an Outer Colony  with (possibly) 500 million civilians living there and was glassed in 2526 after a short battle against the Covenant, I'm surprised that humanity haven't gotten around to reterraforming and resettling the colony. - EpicZealot1239

:Not sure on the will-he-won't-he survive front. According to the framing narrative, Giraud is releasing these as he goes to get feedback from the public about it - I suppose it's conceivable that the last log will end with Giraud signing off mid-way, then continuing with someone else (Mshak? Janacek?) telling the audience that they found Giraud dead, and are releasing the last bit of his work in memoriam. But I think I'd rather he survive, knowing that his irresponsible journalism has had much more effect than airing ONI and Earth's dirty laundry, but has created massive destabilisation that can be exploited by...outside interests, known and unknown.

I, for one, am leaning toward AI intervention in Ben's hunt for the Truth. I'm also tentatively leaning toward some shard of Cortana being involved and here's why:

::I simply can't believe all this was ONI's roundabout way of breaking the news gently to the public, to test the waters so to speak. For something with ONIs resources and expertise, there have to be better, cleaner, and less double-edged ways to do it. I don't think Sully was trying to throw Ben to the wolves, or warn him off - I think he expected Ben to do the job they expected, and tried to get him back on track without having to "liquidate" a valuable PR asset. I don't know if that reflects well or badly on him. As for the end, with Ben discredited, Petrosky scared enough of ONI to recant, Kurzig disappeared, and Petra ready to take up where Ben left off with scalpel-like focus and much more skill at the job, I eagerly await word of whether we'll get a season two of Hunt the Truth.

:::I agree that ONI's intention wasn't to expose the SPARTAN II program in a way that makes it less believable. They basically did to Ben what he was attempting to do to them, while clearing out a particularly pesky terrorist cell in the process. Ben was nothing more than a pawn from the beginning: ONI's, FERO's, it doesn't really matter. His broadcasts were a means to an end. Had he kept his mouth shut & done the job as originally intended, he'dve come away unscathed and financially more well-off. If not, well, he was a much smaller fish in that particular pond than, say, Petra Janecek or Charles Kesler; being a much less experienced journalist than Petra, or a much less prolific public commentator than Kesler made it much easier to so thoroughly discredit him. His broadcasts also made him an attractive target for Insurrectionists to promote their agenda... A fact which ONI could (and did) also use to their advantage. Was it really some overarching plot hatched by ONI to make the skeletons in their collective closet more palatable by making them appear to be the insane ravings of a conspiracy theorist, while at the same time setting up a terrorist organization to take the fall behind the scenes? Hardly... It was damage control, plain and simple. As soon as Ben released his first few episodes, revealing that ONI's scheduling & flight protocols had been compromised & that a suspected terrorist was involved, they locked down any references to the Chief, including the Biko massacre, and began formulating a comprehensive plan to deal with the threats. When the Biko footage was released, ONI deduced that the Saps would try to discredit the Chief by blaming him for the massacre & reasoned that FERO would try to use this angle to attack them publically through Ben's broadcasts, so they suppressed the unedited footage for later release. After the Senate hearings, ONI clamped down on all communications, then set up a Trojan horse on Bliss, stockpiling weapons and a bogus relay in a supposedly abandoned ONI facility. They began to put the squeeze on Ben by clearing out his accounts and evacuating his block, stripping his apartment down to the concrete. Then, they anonymously passed the Bliss server off as a tip to Ben anonymously through Janecek, getting her to unknowingly do their dirty work for them, leveraging Ben's trust in her as well as his sense of obligation for implicating her in his previous broadcast. Once he took the bait on Bliss, it was all but over... All they had to do was pull the rug out from under him on live TV, like he'd tried to do.  

:::As for trying to warn Ben off, a lot of people tried to get Ben to either run the piece as intended or simply cut his losses and keep quiet... Sully tried in Episodes 2, 5 and 9. Petra tried in Episodes 4, 6, 10 and 12. Hell, even Petrosky tried to discourage him from pushing any further in Episode 12. In the end, what did Ben in was (as Sully and our own [[User:Alex T Snow|Alex T Snow]] pointed out) the fact that Glassed Planets Have Bad Records... That ended up biting him in the ass...[[User:DJenser|DJenser]] ([[User talk:DJenser|talk]]) 16:15, 18 June 2015 (EDT)