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 *Our articles, policies and guidelines will remain the same. Everything that we currently have implemented will be exported from here and imported to the new site. The move will have no effect whatsoever on any of the listed.
 *Elimination of most ads. As many of you know, wikia's income comes from the advertisements it hosts on its wikis. While a promise that halopedian.com will never utilize ads cannot be made, if it ever does, they will be much more sparse and only for logged out users.
-*'''Community-related:''' As the wiki will be an independent, standalone site, we can say that the community will be brought closer together. For the administrators, administrating the site will also be easier as they will have access to extra tools for further anti-abuse measures. '''These will <u>not</u> be used for the settling of disputes, for threatening of users, or otherwise for anything that goes against the [http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Halopedia:Administrators#What_can_Administrators_not_do.3F administrator's code of conduct].''' Their use will only be for the security of the site, which altogether will be for the better for the community. As there will be a lack of outlanding-staff, the administration will, with any necessary assistance from developers, be able to handle queries ranging from the simple type that is often given by everyone, to the technical aspects. While not every admin will be able to help in all areas, all areas will be covered. This also will '''not''' make the admins higher up the food chain in any way than an ordinary user. Everybody is equal on a wiki regardless; admins are simply individuals that have extra trust.
+*'''Community-related:''' As the wiki will be an independent, standalone site, we can say that the community will be brought closer together. For the administrators, administrating the site will also be easier as they will have access to extra tools for further anti-abuse measures. '''These will <u>not</u> be used for the settling of disputes, for threatening of users, or otherwise for anything that goes against the [http://halopedian.com/Halopedia:Administrators#What_can_Administrators_not_do.3F administrator's code of conduct].''' Their use will only be for the security of the site, which altogether will be for the better for the community. As there will be a lack of outlanding-staff, the administration will, with any necessary assistance from developers, be able to handle queries ranging from the simple type that is often given by everyone, to the technical aspects. While not every admin will be able to help in all areas, all areas will be covered. This also will '''not''' make the admins higher up the food chain in any way than an ordinary user. Everybody is equal on a wiki regardless; admins are simply individuals that have extra trust.
 *Finally, I should probably mention about [http://community.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Sannse/Your_First_Look_at_the_New_Wikia wikia's plans to enforce a new skin] upon all of its wikis. Nothing wrong with that, right? While this is not the primary reason for the move, I can at least say that it has played as a factor. With due respect to the wikia developers of the skin, some of its changes are very sharp and dramatic. As I've already brought up with my colleagues, the 50% narrowing of article space, the complete redesign of the layout and the theme designer. I myself am part of the beta testing program, and with regards to the Wiki theme designer, after messing around with it for a while, I've found that it is very restricting and a somewhat ill-suitability for Halopedia's theme style. Moving over to our new domain means we move away from the new skin, and my sole personal opinion is such a move would be beneficial. Of course, this would differ from person-to-person as everyone has an opinion about it - similar or different, thus this reason has been kept as much of a minor factor as possible. On the topic of skins -- halopedian.com currently has the options of Vector (wikipedia's skin) and Monobook; we also plan to install Monaco when and if a move is made, so users will be given more options between their skin preferences.
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 :Does not have 50 edits--[[File:Emblem 1.jpg|20px]][[User:Rusty-112|<span style="background:blue; font-family:Arial;font-size:12pt;color:white;">''' Rusty '''</span>]][[User talk:Rusty-112|<span style="background:blue; font-family:Arial;font-size:12pt;color:red;">''' - '''</span>]][[UserWiki:Rusty-112|<span style="background:blue; font-family:Arial;font-size:12pt;color:white;">''' 112 '''</span>]] 11:43, October 3, 2010 (UTC)
 ::User does have 50 edits - actually has 75. {{User:SPARTAN-118/Sig}}
-:::The count is ''ARTICLE EDITS'', not total edits. Darkstorm only has 17 article edits, as can be seen at his social profile page [http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/User_profile:DARKSTORM99 here], under "Statistics."--[[File:Emblem 1.jpg|20px]][[User:Rusty-112|<span style="background:blue; font-family:Arial;font-size:12pt;color:white;">''' Rusty '''</span>]][[User talk:Rusty-112|<span style="background:blue; font-family:Arial;font-size:12pt;color:red;">''' - '''</span>]][[UserWiki:Rusty-112|<span style="background:blue; font-family:Arial;font-size:12pt;color:white;">''' 112 '''</span>]] 21:46, October 3, 2010 (UTC)
+:::The count is ''ARTICLE EDITS'', not total edits. Darkstorm only has 17 article edits, as can be seen at his social profile page [http://halopedian.com/User_profile:DARKSTORM99 here], under "Statistics."--[[File:Emblem 1.jpg|20px]][[User:Rusty-112|<span style="background:blue; font-family:Arial;font-size:12pt;color:white;">''' Rusty '''</span>]][[User talk:Rusty-112|<span style="background:blue; font-family:Arial;font-size:12pt;color:red;">''' - '''</span>]][[UserWiki:Rusty-112|<span style="background:blue; font-family:Arial;font-size:12pt;color:white;">''' 112 '''</span>]] 21:46, October 3, 2010 (UTC)
 *{{Support}} - While the task is large, it will ultimately benefit us. The changes Wikia are forcing on us this time are too great, and we will suffer because of them. - [[File:Black Mesa.jpg|28px]] [[User:Halo-343|<span style="color: purple; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 128%;">'''Halo-343'''</span>]] [[User talk:Halo-343|<font color="red"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Talk'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Halo-343|<font color="orange"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Contribs'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] [[Special:Editcount/Halo-343|<font color="green"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Edits'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] 12:10, October 3, 2010 (UTC)
 *{{Support}} - Obviously, the change will be huge and will have to be done gradually, but looking at Wikia's new skin and more importantly, the benefits of independence from Wikia, it's hard for me to find any good reason to oppose this. I believe the Halo community will eventually find the other site and get used to it, even if it takes some time. All I'm concerned about is the stability of the halopedian.com server, but then again, even Wikia has problems sometimes. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 16:04, October 3, 2010 (UTC)
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 ::::I plea that Halopedia reconsider, or at least postpone a move for several months until it the community is 100% certain that the new Wikia look is completely and utterly unworkable (and at the moment, while a majority of users want to, it's not even two thirds when counting just supports and opposes). [[User:The 888th Avatar|<span style="color:#4169E1;" title="Wjxhuang">'''The&nbsp;888th&nbsp;Avatar'''</span>]]&nbsp;[[User talk:The 888th Avatar|<span style="font-size:12px; color:#888888;" title="Contact me">(talk)</span>]] 13:49, October 13, 2010 (UTC)
-:::::Its not really much about the social tools. There's a number of factors that contribute to the move, the skin and social tools being just one of them. I could care less about the points system, and I even [http://halo.wikia.com/wiki/Forum%3AAbolishing_the_Polls%2C_Quizzes_and_Picture_Games drafted a proposal] to have some of them switched off. The only feature I could say I'm fond of is the social profiles because they make communication easier and have privacy settings for messages. That aside, its just a factor. Not just to get away from or save something, but with things that we would gain with a move (for a typical move, [http://www.wowwiki.com/Forum%3AShould_WoWWiki_leave_Wikia%3F%23Things_that_would_change_if_we_left_Wikia this] offers some insights). Final decisions are not necessarily taken according to vote counts (unless there's an overwhelming majority involved), which is precisely why we wanted as much feedback from the community as possible, and for that I thank you for yours :) - [[File:Major.png|20px]] [[User:Nicmavr|<span style="color:DarkGoldenrod; font-weight:bold; font-family:Arial">Nìcmávr</span>]] <sup><span style="color:DarkGoldenrod">(</span>[[User Talk:Nicmavr|<span style="color:DarkGoldenrod; font-weight:bold">Tálk</span>]]<span style="color:DarkGoldenrod">)</span></sup> 14:02, October 13, 2010 (UTC)
+:::::Its not really much about the social tools. There's a number of factors that contribute to the move, the skin and social tools being just one of them. I could care less about the points system, and I even [http://halopedian.com/Forum%3AAbolishing_the_Polls%2C_Quizzes_and_Picture_Games drafted a proposal] to have some of them switched off. The only feature I could say I'm fond of is the social profiles because they make communication easier and have privacy settings for messages. That aside, its just a factor. Not just to get away from or save something, but with things that we would gain with a move (for a typical move, [http://www.wowwiki.com/Forum%3AShould_WoWWiki_leave_Wikia%3F%23Things_that_would_change_if_we_left_Wikia this] offers some insights). Final decisions are not necessarily taken according to vote counts (unless there's an overwhelming majority involved), which is precisely why we wanted as much feedback from the community as possible, and for that I thank you for yours :) - [[File:Major.png|20px]] [[User:Nicmavr|<span style="color:DarkGoldenrod; font-weight:bold; font-family:Arial">Nìcmávr</span>]] <sup><span style="color:DarkGoldenrod">(</span>[[User Talk:Nicmavr|<span style="color:DarkGoldenrod; font-weight:bold">Tálk</span>]]<span style="color:DarkGoldenrod">)</span></sup> 14:02, October 13, 2010 (UTC)
 :::::Regarding blocked users; there's a reason why we left [[:File:1219040487_Administrator_Banned.jpg|a friendly message on how to settle it]]. It would be their fault for not asking to be unblocked. Regarding the revert argument; to be an active contributor, one needs to be tolerant and vigilant. If everyone is emotionally sensitive, then they should learn that in the internet, nobody one cares ''(sorry for the harshness but that's the tru7h)''. We're getting astray here...
 :::::I don't think it's a good example to compare Halopedia of 6,000+ articles with Wikipedia of 300,000,000+ articles. if anything, Wikipedia has too many policies/rule sets whereas Halopedia has several policies and rule sets, and borrows Wikipedia's to avoid wasting space. Also, regarding ''"What I've actually found is that the reduced number of menu items draws attention to the important items, purely because users are less likely to be lost in all the menus, sub-menus, and sub-sub-menus."'' -- Not in the case of Halopedia.