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:::On a tangential note, could it be possible to implement a template or any other bit of code that, when applied to select redirect pages, would make those redirects show up in the search suggestions? This would solve the issue with casual users (not just when it comes to armor but also everything else), though my point about the linking still stands. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 10:13, 9 October 2013 (EDT)
:::On a tangential note, could it be possible to implement a template or any other bit of code that, when applied to select redirect pages, would make those redirects show up in the search suggestions? This would solve the issue with casual users (not just when it comes to armor but also everything else), though my point about the linking still stands. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 10:13, 9 October 2013 (EDT)


::::I noticed that editors seem to avoid using redirects as links or even as piped links in articles, preferring using the actual title of articles being cited/referred to, and I don't understand the rationale behind this (for example, <code><nowiki>[[Sangheili|Elites]]</nowiki></code> instead of <code></nowiki>[[Elites]]</nowiki></code> or <code><nowiki>[[Unggoy|Grunts]]</nowiki></code> instead of just <code><nowiki>[[Grunts]]</nowiki></code>). This is even more apparent when it comes to linking weapons and vehicles. There's no problem using redirects to link back to the intended article as long it is linked correctly. That being said, it is perfectly okay to have an article titled "MJOLNIR/Scout variant" (or whatever title format we agree with) and still use "Scout variant" (a redirect) as a link in any article (see [http://www.halopedia.org/index.php?title=Sarah_Palmer&action=historysubmit&diff=1056179&oldid=1055864 this]). If there is a need for more redirects, just create more. I don't see any issue with linking an article's title and linking in general.
::::I noticed that editors seem to avoid using redirects as links or even as piped links in articles, preferring using the actual title of articles being cited/referred to, and I don't understand the rationale behind this (for example, <code><nowiki>[[Sangheili|Elites]]</nowiki></code> instead of <code><nowiki>[[Elites]]</nowiki></code> or <code><nowiki>[[Unggoy|Grunts]]</nowiki></code> instead of just <code><nowiki>[[Grunts]]</nowiki></code>). This is even more apparent when it comes to linking weapons and vehicles. There's no problem using redirects to link back to the intended article as long it is linked correctly. That being said, it is perfectly okay to have an article titled "MJOLNIR/Scout variant" (or whatever title format we agree with) and still use "Scout variant" (a redirect) as a link in any article (see [http://www.halopedia.org/index.php?title=Sarah_Palmer&action=historysubmit&diff=1056179&oldid=1055864 this]). If there is a need for more redirects, just create more. I don't see any issue with linking an article's title and linking in general.
::::The examples you given (i.e. Habitat El Ciudad and Beta-5 Division) are wholly different than the issue we're currently facing with armor titles, so I don't think commenting on those would move the discussion into any positive outcome.
::::The examples you given (i.e. Habitat El Ciudad and Beta-5 Division) are wholly different than the issue we're currently facing with armor titles, so I don't think commenting on those would move the discussion into any positive outcome.
::::And since you raised up "(SUBJECT)-class armor", I should point out that it is just an alternate form of presenting the armor variants, as seen in [http://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/intel/inteldetail/837d4a45-880c-453e-a6e1-fec65f037bed/protector?category=armor Waypoint's entry on Protector variant]. In my opinion, "(SUBJECT)-class armor" is synonymous with "(SUBJECT) variant". It is used for presenting within the article but it remains to be the case that the proper title for the armor variant (or class) is "MJOLNIR [GEN2]/(SUBJECT)" as it always has in ''Halo 3'' and ''Halo: Reach''.
::::And since you raised up "(SUBJECT)-class armor", I should point out that it is just an alternate form of presenting the armor variants, as seen in [http://www.halowaypoint.com/en-us/intel/inteldetail/837d4a45-880c-453e-a6e1-fec65f037bed/protector?category=armor Waypoint's entry on Protector variant]. In my opinion, "(SUBJECT)-class armor" is synonymous with "(SUBJECT) variant". It is used for presenting within the article but it remains to be the case that the proper title for the armor variant (or class) is "MJOLNIR [GEN2]/(SUBJECT)" as it always has in ''Halo 3'' and ''Halo: Reach''.
::::Oh, with regards to making a template, it is not possible to do so. What you're requesting requires changing the settings in the mediawiki system which can be done by contacting Porplemontage. I recall that we once allowed redirects to show up in the search suggestions but asked Porple to disable it when we found out that it was counterproductive (i.e. there were too many redirects in the search suggestions). I think it was either you or Braidenvl (or some other administrator) who asked Porple to disable it. *shrugs* — <span style="font-size:14px; font-family:Arial;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span>  12:05, 9 October 2013 (EDT)
::::Oh, with regards to making a template, it is not possible to do so. What you're requesting requires changing the settings in the mediawiki system which can be done by contacting Porplemontage. I recall that we once allowed redirects to show up in the search suggestions but asked Porple to disable it when we found out that it was counterproductive (i.e. there were too many redirects in the search suggestions). I think it was either you or Braidenvl (or some other administrator) who asked Porple to disable it. *shrugs* — <span style="font-size:14px; font-family:Arial;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span>  12:05, 9 October 2013 (EDT)
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