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:On second thought, a weapon titling standard as described above may end up being too arbitrary when dealing with weapons that can't be described with existing terms like "assault rifle" or "pistol"; for example, we shouldn't call the [[M6 Grindell/Galilean Nonlinear Rifle]] "M6 Spartan Laser" because the latter is established to be a nickname in-universe. Something like "M6 G/GNR" would work for me though, or maybe we can just use the current title since it's a one-of-a-kind weapon and the designation isn't too long or painful to type or look up. Still, exceptions such as this one would create a discrepancy with titles like "MA5B assault rifle"; the question is whether these irregularities really matter. Though they're useful as guidelines most of the time, slavish adherence to consistent standards may also be detrimental in some cases, which is why I wouldn't exactly have a problem with seeing titles like "M6 Grindell/Galilean Nonlinear Rifle" and "MA5B assault rifle" existing side by side. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 06:34, 30 October 2012 (EDT) | :On second thought, a weapon titling standard as described above may end up being too arbitrary when dealing with weapons that can't be described with existing terms like "assault rifle" or "pistol"; for example, we shouldn't call the [[M6 Grindell/Galilean Nonlinear Rifle]] "M6 Spartan Laser" because the latter is established to be a nickname in-universe. Something like "M6 G/GNR" would work for me though, or maybe we can just use the current title since it's a one-of-a-kind weapon and the designation isn't too long or painful to type or look up. Still, exceptions such as this one would create a discrepancy with titles like "MA5B assault rifle"; the question is whether these irregularities really matter. Though they're useful as guidelines most of the time, slavish adherence to consistent standards may also be detrimental in some cases, which is why I wouldn't exactly have a problem with seeing titles like "M6 Grindell/Galilean Nonlinear Rifle" and "MA5B assault rifle" existing side by side. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 06:34, 30 October 2012 (EDT) | ||
::The proposed style is workable for UNSC-related articles but how 'bout the Covenant? Would we just abandon using their technical designation (i.e. Type-33 Guided Munitions Launcher) in favour of their common name (i.e. Needler, Fuel Rod Gun, Plasma Rifle)? — <span style="font-size:14px; font-family:Arial;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span> 07:12, 30 October 2012 (EDT) | ::The proposed style is workable for UNSC-related articles but how 'bout the Covenant? Would we just abandon using their technical designation (i.e. Type-33 Guided Munitions Launcher) in favour of their common name (i.e. Needler, Fuel Rod Gun, Plasma Rifle)? — <span style="font-size:14px; font-family:Arial;">[[User:Subtank|<span style="color:#FF4F00;">subtank</span>]]</span> 07:12, 30 October 2012 (EDT) | ||
::The Spartan Laser could be shortened to "M6 nonlinear rifle" or "M6 laser" as "Grindell/Gailiean", to our knowledge, doesn't describe the type or origin of the weapon. {{User:Grizzlei/Sig}} | |||
:::I suppose we could go with "Type-33 Needler", "Type-25 Plasma Pistol", etc. Some of the Covenant weapons in the new ''Halo 4'' interactive guide are labeled this way in the descriptions. Granted, capitalizing descriptors like "plasma pistol" here would also result in a discrepancy if we don't do so with UNSC weapons (e.g. "MA5B assault rifle" as opposed to "MA5B Assault Rifle"). However, we might just ''not'' capitalize them since it's not done in the books; the practice of treating them as proper names only seems to exist in marketing material. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 07:25, 30 October 2012 (EDT) | :::I suppose we could go with "Type-33 Needler", "Type-25 Plasma Pistol", etc. Some of the Covenant weapons in the new ''Halo 4'' interactive guide are labeled this way in the descriptions. Granted, capitalizing descriptors like "plasma pistol" here would also result in a discrepancy if we don't do so with UNSC weapons (e.g. "MA5B assault rifle" as opposed to "MA5B Assault Rifle"). However, we might just ''not'' capitalize them since it's not done in the books; the practice of treating them as proper names only seems to exist in marketing material. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 07:25, 30 October 2012 (EDT) | ||
::::If I remember correctly, the "Type" system for designating Covenant equipment is a UNSC format similar to the [[Wikipedia:NATO Reporting Name|NATO Reporting Names]] for Soviet/Warsaw/Russian kit. Unlike the Humans who generally use simple designations (MA5, M6, etc.), the Covenant and successor states has obviously refused to use the UNSC names (just like species nicknames; Elite, Brute, etc.) and exclusively uses their simple names that we were only once accustomed to. For example, many have blended the Soviet designation "MiG-29" and the NATO reporting name "Fulcrum" to distinguish it further. Something similar as you mentioned above will work perfectly. {{User:Grizzlei/Sig}} | |||