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Lacking admin status, I just ask our administration to review the issue. Perhaps submit it to a community appraisal (not vote, because then the claws would come out). But ''something'' must be done. -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 09:05, July 31, 2010 (UTC)
Lacking admin status, I just ask our administration to review the issue. Perhaps submit it to a community appraisal (not vote, because then the claws would come out). But ''something'' must be done. -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 09:05, July 31, 2010 (UTC)


:The Canon Policy has always been in its perfect state ever since it was created/introduced to the Halo Nation. The way you should interpret canon is really easy; everything and anything created by Bungie will remain superior and '''is set in stone'''. 343i merely manages the content, add new content to the established Halo Universe and is allowed to ''bend'' canon. If we consider that everything the creator has produced is changeable by the manager simply because the creator no longer owns the IP, then canon can easily be broken/ignored and retcons will be more apparent than ever before. In a way, Bungie-created content (i.e. games, novels) are the absolute canon where 343i merely expands canon, acting as the new caretaker of the Halo Universe. To get a sense of what I'm trying to say, refer to [[wikia:starwars:Canon#Canon_and_the_Expanded_Universe|this section of the Wookiepedia's Canon article]].<!-- Do not mistook this as to saying Bungie is still in charge of the Halo Universe... --> A way to resolve this would be to embrace everything added to the Halo Universe by those contracted by Microsoft Game Studios as canon. This includes taking Halo Wars' Mk IV armour as canon but regarded as 343i's version of the Mk IV MJOLNIR.
:The Canon policy has always been in its perfect state ever since it was created/introduced to the Halo Nation. The way you should interpret canon is really easy; everything and anything created by Bungie will remain superior and '''is set in stone'''. 343i merely manages the content, add new content to the established Halo Universe and is allowed to ''bend'' canon. If we consider that everything the creator has produced is changeable by the manager simply because the creator no longer owns the IP, then canon can easily be broken/ignored and retcons will be more apparent than ever before. In a way, Bungie-created content (i.e. games, novels) are the absolute canon where 343i merely expands canon, acting as the new caretaker of the Halo Universe. To get a sense of what I'm trying to say, refer to [[wikia:starwars:Canon#Canon_and_the_Expanded_Universe|this section of the Wookiepedia's Canon article]].<!-- Do not mistook this as to saying Bungie is still in charge of the Halo Universe... --> A way to resolve this would be to embrace everything added to the Halo Universe by those contracted by Microsoft Game Studios as canon. This includes taking Halo Wars' Mk IV armour as canon but regarded as 343i's version of the Mk IV MJOLNIR.
{{Quote|Currently, yes, our canon policy is phrased to make the Mark IV suit of "inferior" canon. But the policy is wrong.|Specops306}}
{{Quote|Currently, yes, our canon policy is phrased to make the Mark IV suit of "inferior" canon. But the policy is wrong.|Specops306}}
:For those who still think the Halo Wars' Mk IV is not canon, ''"screw them and let them live in their own fantasy world"''. As stated previously, Halopedia always regards everything created for the Halo Universe as canon and that the policy has always been in its perfect state since it was created. In what way has the policy is wrong?
:For those who still think the Halo Wars' Mk IV is not canon, ''"screw them and let them live in their own fantasy world"''. As stated previously, Halopedia always regards everything created for the Halo Universe as canon and that the policy has always been in its perfect state since it was created. In what way has the policy is wrong?
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::And sorry about unsigning my original comment. This is coming from a former admin! How unprofessional! XO -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 10:35, July 31, 2010 (UTC)
::And sorry about unsigning my original comment. This is coming from a former admin! How unprofessional! XO -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 10:35, July 31, 2010 (UTC)


:::Yes, using Star Wars may not be the best example, but certain things of it is usable/applicable to this issue. Perhaps fixing the wordings of the canon policy would provide some clarification? Would [[halofanon:Halo_Fanon:Canon_Policy#Fundamentals|this]] be a good example? <sup>Darn me, I forgot all about Halo Fanon's Canon Policy. It practically solves almost every canon issue in the Halo Universe... >.<</sup> A bit of changes here and there to accommodate an encyclopaedia's needs and it should solve our canon problem.
:::Yes, using Star Wars may not be the best example, but certain things of it is usable/applicable to this issue. Perhaps fixing the wordings of the canon policy would provide some clarification? Would [[halofanon:Halo_Fanon:Canon policy#Fundamentals|this]] be a good example? <sup>Darn me, I forgot all about Halo Fanon's Canon policy. It practically solves almost every canon issue in the Halo Universe... >.<</sup> A bit of changes here and there to accommodate an encyclopaedia's needs and it should solve our canon problem.


:::Regarding the novels reissued by 343i, those novels are only undergoing spellchecks (i.e. 2552 instead of 2542, SPARTAN tags error) and a visual cover update. Other than that, 343i has confirmed that nothing will be changed or added.
:::Regarding the novels reissued by 343i, those novels are only undergoing spellchecks (i.e. 2552 instead of 2542, SPARTAN tags error) and a visual cover update. Other than that, 343i has confirmed that nothing will be changed or added.
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::::::I don't know about new scenes, etc, but I do recall reading that there will be extra material in the back of the reissues, commenting on the new content or issues that need to be/will be resolved. -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 11:24, July 31, 2010 (UTC)
::::::I don't know about new scenes, etc, but I do recall reading that there will be extra material in the back of the reissues, commenting on the new content or issues that need to be/will be resolved. -- [[User:Specops306|<b><font color=indigo>Specops306</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>Qur'a 'Morhek</sup></font></i></u>]] 11:24, July 31, 2010 (UTC)


::::Oh, I forgot [[halofanon:Forum:Canon_Policy#Bungie.27s_ranking_system|how HaloFanon came into solving the canon issue]]. >.> - <font face="Century Gothic">[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></font> 11:03, July 31, 2010 (UTC)
::::Oh, I forgot [[halofanon:Forum:Canon policy#Bungie.27s_ranking_system|how HaloFanon came into solving the canon issue]]. >.> - <font face="Century Gothic">[[User:Subtank|<font color="gold"><font color="#FF4F00">5</font>əb<font color="#FF4F00">'7</font>aŋk</font>]]<sup>([[User talk:Subtank|<font color="#FF4F00">7alk</font>]])</sup></font> 11:03, July 31, 2010 (UTC)


:::I must strongly agree with Specops on this one. As he said, clinging to Bungie even after they sold the IP isn't the logical thing to do. 343i are the word of god when it comes to ''Halo'' now, and rendering every other item of ''Halo'' media to be released as inferior canon because Bungie started ''Halo'' is not of wiki standard. Specops basically said everything I'm trying to get across here, so I'll let his comment be read and use this as further agreement. -  [[User:Halo-343|<span style="color: purple; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 128%;">'''Halo-343'''</span>]] [[User talk:Halo-343|<font color="red"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Talk'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Halo-343|<font color="orange"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Contribs'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] [[Special:Editcount/Halo-343|<font color="green"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Edits'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] 10:48, July 31, 2010 (UTC)
:::I must strongly agree with Specops on this one. As he said, clinging to Bungie even after they sold the IP isn't the logical thing to do. 343i are the word of god when it comes to ''Halo'' now, and rendering every other item of ''Halo'' media to be released as inferior canon because Bungie started ''Halo'' is not of wiki standard. Specops basically said everything I'm trying to get across here, so I'll let his comment be read and use this as further agreement. -  [[User:Halo-343|<span style="color: purple; font-family: Times New Roman; font-size: 128%;">'''Halo-343'''</span>]] [[User talk:Halo-343|<font color="red"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Talk'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Halo-343|<font color="orange"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Contribs'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] [[Special:Editcount/Halo-343|<font color="green"><nowiki>(</nowiki>'''Edits'''<nowiki>)</nowiki></font>]] 10:48, July 31, 2010 (UTC)