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Before I start the list, I feel it necessary to outline what makes an achievement difficult. For me there are five factors which make an achievement difficult. '''Time consuming''' - the achievement requires a lot of time and a lot of grinding to unlock. '''Other players''' - the achievement is dependant on the actions/choices of another player (i.e. [[That Won't Save You]], [[Paper Beats Rock]]). '''Co-op''' - the achievement that can only be unlocked in online co-op play. '''Situational''' - the achievement can only be unlocked in situations which rarely occur. And finally '''Objective difficulty''' - the achievement requires actions which are objectively difficult to pull off.
Before I start the list, I feel it necessary to outline what makes an achievement difficult. For me there are five factors which make an achievement difficult. '''Time consuming''' - the achievement requires a lot of time and a lot of grinding to unlock. '''Other players''' - the achievement is dependant on the actions/choices of another player (i.e. [[That Won't Save You]], [[Paper Beats Rock]]). '''Co-op''' - the achievement that can only be unlocked in online co-op play. '''Situational''' - the achievement can only be unlocked in situations which rarely occur. And finally '''Objective difficulty''' - the achievement requires actions which are objectively difficult to pull off.


You won't find many campaign achievements listed. That's because most campaign achievements can be achieved with perseverance alone; if you keep at it, eventually you'll succeed. The most difficult achievements are those which also require skill and luck, without which you can try forever and never unlock them.--[[File:Emblem 1.jpg|20px|bottom]][[User:Rusty-112|<span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:13pt;color:blue;">''' Rusty'''</span><span style="font-size:13pt;color:red;">'''-'''</span><span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:13pt;color:blue;">'''112'''</span>]] [[Halopedia:Administrators|<span style="color:red; font-family:Arial">'''''Admin'''''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Rusty-112|<font color="blue">'''comm'''</font>]]</sup> 16:18, 1 December 2013 (EST)
You won't find many campaign achievements listed. That's because most campaign achievements can be achieved with perseverance alone; if you keep at it, eventually you'll succeed. The most difficult achievements are those which also require skill and luck, without which you can try forever and never unlock them.--[[User:Rusty-112|<span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:13pt;color:blue;">''' Rusty'''</span><span style="font-size:13pt;color:red;">'''-'''</span><span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:13pt;color:blue;">'''112'''</span>]] [[Halopedia:Administrators|<span style="color:red; font-family:Arial">'''''Admin'''''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Rusty-112|<font color="blue">'''comm'''</font>]]</sup> 16:18, 1 December 2013 (EST)


==Preliminary list==
==Preliminary list==
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==Discussion==
==Discussion==
So what do we think? Are there any achievements you found particularly hard that were left out? Any included that you found easy? Have your say and we'll whittle the list down, until we've found the most difficult achievement(s) ever.--[[File:Emblem 1.jpg|20px|bottom]][[User:Rusty-112|<span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:13pt;color:blue;">''' Rusty'''</span><span style="font-size:13pt;color:red;">'''-'''</span><span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:13pt;color:blue;">'''112'''</span>]] [[Halopedia:Administrators|<span style="color:red; font-family:Arial">'''''Admin'''''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Rusty-112|<font color="blue">'''comm'''</font>]]</sup> 16:18, 1 December 2013 (EST)
So what do we think? Are there any achievements you found particularly hard that were left out? Any included that you found easy? Have your say and we'll whittle the list down, until we've found the most difficult achievement(s) ever.--[[User:Rusty-112|<span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:13pt;color:blue;">''' Rusty'''</span><span style="font-size:13pt;color:red;">'''-'''</span><span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:13pt;color:blue;">'''112'''</span>]] [[Halopedia:Administrators|<span style="color:red; font-family:Arial">'''''Admin'''''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Rusty-112|<font color="blue">'''comm'''</font>]]</sup> 16:18, 1 December 2013 (EST)


I'm guessing Two for One might be the hardest. I'm not even sure if there are any FFA maps that ''have'' splazers in them. '''This is''' [[User:CraZboy557|<span style="color:orange; font-family: Gill Sans Ultra Bold; font-size: 105%;">'''craZboy557'''</span>]], '''signing off.''' 16:27, 1 December 2013 (EST)
I'm guessing Two for One might be the hardest. I'm not even sure if there are any FFA maps that ''have'' splazers in them. '''This is''' [[User:CraZboy557|<span style="color:orange; font-family: Gill Sans Ultra Bold; font-size: 105%;">'''craZboy557'''</span>]], '''signing off.''' 16:27, 1 December 2013 (EST)
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I'm going to say this, the two achievements for Halo: CE anniversary, I achieved both at the same time (thanks to RC Master). I also achieved the incredibly difficult "If They Came to Hear Me Beg" after a few tries. And with that being said, campaign and maybe firefight achievements are easier and "possible" to achieve on your own. Multiplayer achievements on the other hand are nearly impossible to achieve and just flat out OUTRAGEOUS. It makes me wonder who put them together in the first place. You're pretty much going to have to have a friend or stranger over xblv help you achieve it which kind of defeats the purpose of the achievement in the first place. Just a waste of time IMO. That's why most gamers say no to multiplayer achievements because you can't achieve them.--'''''[[User:Killamint|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Arial;">Killamint</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Killamint|<font color="Red">Comm</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Killamint|<font color="Black">Files</font>]]''''']</small> 18:07, 1 December 2013 (EST)
I'm going to say this, the two achievements for Halo: CE anniversary, I achieved both at the same time (thanks to RC Master). I also achieved the incredibly difficult "If They Came to Hear Me Beg" after a few tries. And with that being said, campaign and maybe firefight achievements are easier and "possible" to achieve on your own. Multiplayer achievements on the other hand are nearly impossible to achieve and just flat out OUTRAGEOUS. It makes me wonder who put them together in the first place. You're pretty much going to have to have a friend or stranger over xblv help you achieve it which kind of defeats the purpose of the achievement in the first place. Just a waste of time IMO. That's why most gamers say no to multiplayer achievements because you can't achieve them.--'''''[[User:Killamint|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Arial;">Killamint</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Killamint|<font color="Red">Comm</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Killamint|<font color="Black">Files</font>]]''''']</small> 18:07, 1 December 2013 (EST)
:Totally agree with you as I never even attempt to unlock multiplayer achievements. If I do happen to unlock one, it's usually by accident.--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}} 18:08, 5 December 2013 (EST)
:Totally agree with you as I never even attempt to unlock multiplayer achievements. If I do happen to unlock one, it's usually by accident.--{{User:Spartacus/Sig}} 18:08, 5 December 2013 (EST)
::I don't mind them as long as they're for something you can control and are about skill, not dumb luck. [http://www.dorkly.com/article/57184/the-5-worst-types-of-achievements-and-trophies/page:2 Dorkly] makes a good and funny argument against them, too.--[[File:Emblem 1.jpg|20px|bottom]][[User:Rusty-112|<span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:13pt;color:blue;">''' Rusty'''</span><span style="font-size:13pt;color:red;">'''-'''</span><span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:13pt;color:blue;">'''112'''</span>]] [[Halopedia:Administrators|<span style="color:red; font-family:Arial">'''''Admin'''''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Rusty-112|<font color="blue">'''comm'''</font>]]</sup> 19:03, 5 December 2013 (EST)
::I don't mind them as long as they're for something you can control and are about skill, not dumb luck. [http://www.dorkly.com/article/57184/the-5-worst-types-of-achievements-and-trophies/page:2 Dorkly] makes a good and funny argument against them, too.--[[User:Rusty-112|<span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:13pt;color:blue;">''' Rusty'''</span><span style="font-size:13pt;color:red;">'''-'''</span><span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:13pt;color:blue;">'''112'''</span>]] [[Halopedia:Administrators|<span style="color:red; font-family:Arial">'''''Admin'''''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Rusty-112|<font color="blue">'''comm'''</font>]]</sup> 19:03, 5 December 2013 (EST)


I'd just like to point out the [[Overkill (achievement)|Overkill achievement]] from ''Halo 3''. Whether or not this was just my complete failure to gain a seemingly simple achievement, this took me two years to gain. Considering there were so few people in a Lone Wolf game, and the extremely low chance that you will see four people in one area, this was incredibly difficult. But my goodness, the Commando helmet was a lovely reward. —<b>[[User:Tentacletornado|<font color="#2E8B57">''Tent''</font><font color="#3CB371">''acle''</font>]][[User talk:Tentacletornado|<font color="#DAA520">''Torn''</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Tentacletornado|<font color="#B8860B">''ado''</font>]]</b> 07:18, 6 December 2013 (EST)
I'd just like to point out the [[Overkill (achievement)|Overkill achievement]] from ''Halo 3''. Whether or not this was just my complete failure to gain a seemingly simple achievement, this took me two years to gain. Considering there were so few people in a Lone Wolf game, and the extremely low chance that you will see four people in one area, this was incredibly difficult. But my goodness, the Commando helmet was a lovely reward. —<b>[[User:Tentacletornado|<font color="#2E8B57">''Tent''</font><font color="#3CB371">''acle''</font>]][[User talk:Tentacletornado|<font color="#DAA520">''Torn''</font>]][[Special:Contributions/Tentacletornado|<font color="#B8860B">''ado''</font>]]</b> 07:18, 6 December 2013 (EST)
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Anyone want to get some of the VM achievements? I think annual actually might not be too hard, as well as its ODST equivalent. Of course, the Firefight one might be rather hard. Might be able to strike a few off the list based on the results if we do this. '''This is''' [[User:CraZboy557|<span style="color:orange; font-family: Gill Sans Ultra Bold; font-size: 105%;">'''craZboy557'''</span>]], '''signing off.''' 15:05, 7 December 2013 (EST)
Anyone want to get some of the VM achievements? I think annual actually might not be too hard, as well as its ODST equivalent. Of course, the Firefight one might be rather hard. Might be able to strike a few off the list based on the results if we do this. '''This is''' [[User:CraZboy557|<span style="color:orange; font-family: Gill Sans Ultra Bold; font-size: 105%;">'''craZboy557'''</span>]], '''signing off.''' 15:05, 7 December 2013 (EST)


:I already have them all, but if anyone is looking for another player I'll be happy to help. That being said, I won't have time for at least a couple of weeks, and then my holiday schedule is pretty unpredictable. I recommend looking up the [http://spartan1project.com Spartan 1 Project]. They're a group that specializes in helping people get achievements. They helped me get Annual and Endure--[[File:Emblem 1.jpg|20px|bottom]][[User:Rusty-112|<span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:13pt;color:blue;">''' Rusty'''</span><span style="font-size:13pt;color:red;">'''-'''</span><span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:13pt;color:blue;">'''112'''</span>]] [[Halopedia:Administrators|<span style="color:red; font-family:Arial">'''''Admin'''''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Rusty-112|<font color="blue">'''comm'''</font>]]</sup> 15:47, 7 December 2013 (EST)
:I already have them all, but if anyone is looking for another player I'll be happy to help. That being said, I won't have time for at least a couple of weeks, and then my holiday schedule is pretty unpredictable. I recommend looking up the [http://spartan1project.com Spartan 1 Project]. They're a group that specializes in helping people get achievements. They helped me get Annual and Endure--[[User:Rusty-112|<span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:13pt;color:blue;">''' Rusty'''</span><span style="font-size:13pt;color:red;">'''-'''</span><span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:13pt;color:blue;">'''112'''</span>]] [[Halopedia:Administrators|<span style="color:red; font-family:Arial">'''''Admin'''''</span>]] <sup>[[User talk:Rusty-112|<font color="blue">'''comm'''</font>]]</sup> 15:47, 7 December 2013 (EST)


::Probably won't use that, as I partially intend to see how difficult they are. '''This is''' [[User:CraZboy557|<span style="color:orange; font-family: Gill Sans Ultra Bold; font-size: 105%;">'''craZboy557'''</span>]], '''signing off.''' 16:19, 7 December 2013 (EST)
::Probably won't use that, as I partially intend to see how difficult they are. '''This is''' [[User:CraZboy557|<span style="color:orange; font-family: Gill Sans Ultra Bold; font-size: 105%;">'''craZboy557'''</span>]], '''signing off.''' 16:19, 7 December 2013 (EST)
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Finally we have [[Halo: Spartan Assault]] for Windows 8. And...it's [[Extra Credit]]. Extra Credit took me a total of four months to get this achievo. Now given I wasn't always playing this game, but I still put in a decent 17 hours.
Finally we have [[Halo: Spartan Assault]] for Windows 8. And...it's [[Extra Credit]]. Extra Credit took me a total of four months to get this achievo. Now given I wasn't always playing this game, but I still put in a decent 17 hours.


Well, that's my two cents.[[User:Sith Venator|<span style="color:green">Sith-venator Wavingstrider</span>]] [[File:Fett helmet.jpg|20px]] ([[User talk:Sith Venator|<span style="color:blue">Commlink</span>]]) 07:44, 9 December 2013 (EST)
Well, that's my two cents.[[User:Sith Venator|<span style="color:green">Sith-venator Wavingstrider</span>]] ([[User talk:Sith Venator|<span style="color:blue">Commlink</span>]]) 07:44, 9 December 2013 (EST)


:I didn't have a lot of trouble with that one, actually. However, I did see the AH walkthrough before I even got the game. '''This is''' [[User:CraZboy557|<span style="color:orange; font-family: Gill Sans Ultra Bold; font-size: 105%;">'''craZboy557'''</span>]], '''signing off.''' 17:06, 9 December 2013 (EST)
:I didn't have a lot of trouble with that one, actually. However, I did see the AH walkthrough before I even got the game. '''This is''' [[User:CraZboy557|<span style="color:orange; font-family: Gill Sans Ultra Bold; font-size: 105%;">'''craZboy557'''</span>]], '''signing off.''' 17:06, 9 December 2013 (EST)
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