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::But with something like Halo, you just don't get that saturation or the contradictions they bring with it. 343's been surprisingly deliberate in its expanded universe entries, even if I haven't been able to care much about it since Nylund 's last book, while maintaining a solid output. The quality control has been much better - you don't have the Halo equivalent of Palpatine's mutant three-eyed son, the magical Glove of Darth Vader, or that time Han and Chewie found a planet of zombies and let them pass on. For better or worse :P  
::But with something like Halo, you just don't get that saturation or the contradictions they bring with it. 343's been surprisingly deliberate in its expanded universe entries, even if I haven't been able to care much about it since Nylund 's last book, while maintaining a solid output. The quality control has been much better - you don't have the Halo equivalent of Palpatine's mutant three-eyed son, the magical Glove of Darth Vader, or that time Han and Chewie found a planet of zombies and let them pass on. For better or worse :P  


::And regarding 70.70.8.253's assessment of Halo 2 - I actually think Halo 2's story is still the most interesting of the "main" Halo games, precisely because it tried to do different things. Many fans will disagree that it was for the best, but giving a Covenant's eye view of things made the universe feel more vast, and I still regret they reduced the Arbiter to a sidekick in Halo 3. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 19:40, 11 January 2014 (EST)
::And regarding 70.70.8.253's assessment of Halo 2 - I actually think Halo 2's story is still the most interesting of the "main" Halo games, precisely because it tried to do different things. Many fans will disagree that it was for the best, but giving a Covenant's eye view of things made the universe feel more vast, and I still regret they reduced the Arbiter to a sidekick in Halo 3. -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 19:40, 11 January 2014 (EST)


:Frankie has always painted in rather broad strokes when it comes to canon, and I've always taken him as more of a community guy than a fiction one anyway; he's the guy who comes to a forum to tell people to calm down and then drops a silly "a wizard did it"-caliber explanation of why something is the way it is. It's apparent he's more concerned with the big picture and direction than fictional minutiae like how the Chief's armor can look different or whether an ONI stealth ship is a prowler or not. As far as I'm aware, Mr. Vociferous strikes me as the guy with most canon knowledge in the studio, though I'm not entirely sure whether he's able - or willing - to exercise full control over what makes the cut and what doesn't, canon-wise. To me, so far, 343i has managed the factual side of the fiction relatively well (aside a few notable missteps) - it's the quality of the writing I'm more worried about. 343's in-house writers are somewhat of a mixed bag: Brian Reed's work in ''Initiation'' doesn't exactly fill me with confidence (quite the opposite in fact), while Chris Schlerf did a semi-decent job with ''Halo 4'' (for all its faults), but since he quit we can't expect to see more of his work.
:Frankie has always painted in rather broad strokes when it comes to canon, and I've always taken him as more of a community guy than a fiction one anyway; he's the guy who comes to a forum to tell people to calm down and then drops a silly "a wizard did it"-caliber explanation of why something is the way it is. It's apparent he's more concerned with the big picture and direction than fictional minutiae like how the Chief's armor can look different or whether an ONI stealth ship is a prowler or not. As far as I'm aware, Mr. Vociferous strikes me as the guy with most canon knowledge in the studio, though I'm not entirely sure whether he's able - or willing - to exercise full control over what makes the cut and what doesn't, canon-wise. To me, so far, 343i has managed the factual side of the fiction relatively well (aside a few notable missteps) - it's the quality of the writing I'm more worried about. 343's in-house writers are somewhat of a mixed bag: Brian Reed's work in ''Initiation'' doesn't exactly fill me with confidence (quite the opposite in fact), while Chris Schlerf did a semi-decent job with ''Halo 4'' (for all its faults), but since he quit we can't expect to see more of his work.
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::::Completely agree with you on the Covenant and Forerunner aesthetics. I think the Elites don't look too bad, but they need helmets for the signature profile. And I was absolutely not a fan of the new Jackals. My biggest gripe wasn't even how the Didact looked (though he did look extremely goofy, like all Forerunners apparently. I would have preferred Space Elves, because at least they'd look the part). It's that they showed him AT ALL. I've said it before, and I'll say it again - the big draw of the Forerunners is the MYSTERY. It's like bringing back Helen of Troy and Achilles - they're figures of legend, and come with cultural baggage when we think of them, but seeing them, in the flesh, as ordinary people ruins the mystique. Even if they'd kept them in full-body armour, if the Librarian has used a face mask to convey her elegant gentleness. Hell, in his armour the Didact doesn't look half bad, but once the face comes out he loses his menace. It's hugely frustrating for me.
::::Completely agree with you on the Covenant and Forerunner aesthetics. I think the Elites don't look too bad, but they need helmets for the signature profile. And I was absolutely not a fan of the new Jackals. My biggest gripe wasn't even how the Didact looked (though he did look extremely goofy, like all Forerunners apparently. I would have preferred Space Elves, because at least they'd look the part). It's that they showed him AT ALL. I've said it before, and I'll say it again - the big draw of the Forerunners is the MYSTERY. It's like bringing back Helen of Troy and Achilles - they're figures of legend, and come with cultural baggage when we think of them, but seeing them, in the flesh, as ordinary people ruins the mystique. Even if they'd kept them in full-body armour, if the Librarian has used a face mask to convey her elegant gentleness. Hell, in his armour the Didact doesn't look half bad, but once the face comes out he loses his menace. It's hugely frustrating for me.


::::Also glad to hear someone going to fill Frankie's old job. I'd apply, but I don't think a fanon writer living thousands of miles away who can't afford to move, and hasn't finished a degree yet, is who they're looking for :P -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[w:c:halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 02:30, 20 January 2014 (EST)
::::Also glad to hear someone going to fill Frankie's old job. I'd apply, but I don't think a fanon writer living thousands of miles away who can't afford to move, and hasn't finished a degree yet, is who they're looking for :P -- [[User:Morhek|<b><font color=indigo>Qura 'Morhek</font></b>]] [[halofanon:user:Specops306|<u><i><font color=blue><sup>The Autocrat</sup></font></i></u>]] [[User talk:Specops306|<u><i><font color=purple><sup>of Morheka</sup></font></i></u>]] 02:30, 20 January 2014 (EST)


::::100% agree with you Jugus. "''His current incarnation might as well be wearing a t-shirt saying "I'm evil!"."'' LMAO! --'''''[[User:Killamint|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Arial;">Killamint</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Killamint|<font color="Red">Comm</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Killamint|<font color="Black">Files</font>]]''''']</small> 16:29, 27 January 2014 (EST)
::::100% agree with you Jugus. "''His current incarnation might as well be wearing a t-shirt saying "I'm evil!"."'' LMAO! --'''''[[User:Killamint|<span style="color:Black; font-family: Arial;">Killamint</span>]]''''' <small>['''''[[User talk:Killamint|<font color="Red">Comm</font>]]'''''|'''''[[Special:Contributions/Killamint|<font color="Black">Files</font>]]''''']</small> 16:29, 27 January 2014 (EST)
::Am I the only one here who actually enjoyed halo 4 and new things in it..?[[User:Erickyboo|Erickyboo]] ([[User talk:Erickyboo|talk]]) 04:17, 16 March 2015 (EDT)
::Am I the only one here who actually enjoyed halo 4 and new things in it..?[[User:Erickyboo|Erickyboo]] ([[User talk:Erickyboo|talk]]) 04:17, 16 March 2015 (EDT)