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Idk how wikis work, I never use them, but as I understand it, editing this page is how to discuss what changes should be made for armor customization pages. I thought I edited it yesterday but now it's not showing up, not sure what I am doing wrong. But anyway why does Halo 2 armor customzation not have its own article, when all the other games do? There is a link here for Halo 2 armor customization but the link doesn't work. Surely this page should exist?
== IMPORTANT - Armour Permutations: Split this page up? ==
== IMPORTANT - Armour Permutations: Split this page up? ==
This article is getting too big.
This article is getting too big.
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I have attempted to split this page up. I have pulled all the information we have on reach into a new article including all reach pictures from the gallery section but it continues to be ripped back to this article and the new one I created is being marked for deletion due to redundancy. This is highly annoying because whoever is doing it refuses to answer why they apparently do not want the article split or does not understand the concept of what I am doing. [[User talk:Griffmstr835|Griffmstr835]] 17:54, September 25, 2010 (UTC)
I have attempted to split this page up. I have pulled all the information we have on reach into a new article including all reach pictures from the gallery section but it continues to be ripped back to this article and the new one I created is being marked for deletion due to redundancy. This is highly annoying because whoever is doing it refuses to answer why they apparently do not want the article split or does not understand the concept of what I am doing. [[User talk:Griffmstr835|Griffmstr835]] 17:54, September 25, 2010 (UTC)
:Please take a loot at the article [[The Armory (Halo: Reach Permutations)|here]] and tell me if you like how it looks and whether or ot you feel it should be deleted.
:Please take a loot at the article here and tell me if you like how it looks and whether or ot you feel it should be deleted.
I know this has been around for a while now but I also agree that the page should be split. I was thinking that maybe we could avoid the new page's deletion if we have an official vote.--[[User talk:Soul reaper|Soul reaper]] 08:13, September 29, 2010 (UTC)
I know this has been around for a while now but I also agree that the page should be split. I was thinking that maybe we could avoid the new page's deletion if we have an official vote.--[[User talk:Soul reaper|Soul reaper]] 08:13, September 29, 2010 (UTC)
::So this vote has been sitting around for awhile now and no one has opposed to splitting the article. Are we ever going to split this article?--[[File:1221751884 I-animated-this-for-you.gif|20px]][[User:Ender the Xenocide|<font color="Green">Ender the Xenocide]]</font>[[File:1221751884 I-animated-this-for-you.gif|20px]] 14:04, 8 December 2010 (EST)
::So this vote has been sitting around for awhile now and no one has opposed to splitting the article. Are we ever going to split this article?--[[User:Ender the Xenocide|<font color="Green">Ender the Xenocide]]</font> 14:04, 8 December 2010 (EST)
===Support===
===Support===
*{{Support}}-  Page is far too long and has enough information to warrant a split--[[User talk:Soul reaper|Soul reaper]] 08:13, September 29, 2010 (UTC)
*{{Support}}-  Page is far too long and has enough information to warrant a split--[[User talk:Soul reaper|Soul reaper]] 08:13, September 29, 2010 (UTC)
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:''"Unlocking the Security Shoulders does not require an arbitrary amount of points. Rather, the player must unlock 39 Achievments. Ergo, the points can vary considerably. I can testify to this, since I had 810 points and no shoulders, but then I got my 39th achievement (820 points) and I've had them ever since!"''
:''"Unlocking the Security Shoulders does not require an arbitrary amount of points. Rather, the player must unlock 39 Achievments. Ergo, the points can vary considerably. I can testify to this, since I had 810 points and no shoulders, but then I got my 39th achievement (820 points) and I've had them ever since!"''


:If anyone can link a source that verifies the exact requirements, that would be fantastic. :) -- [[User:Manticore|<font color=black>'''Manticore'''</font>]] [[File:Fleet Admiral.jpg|20px|Manticore is a Halopedia administrator.]] <sup>[[User talk:Manticore|<font color=black>Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Manticore|<font color=black>Contributions</font>]]</sup> 13:45, 21 October 2007 (UTC)
:If anyone can link a source that verifies the exact requirements, that would be fantastic. :) -- [[User:Manticore|<font color=black>'''Manticore'''</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:Manticore|<font color=black>Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Manticore|<font color=black>Contributions</font>]]</sup> 13:45, 21 October 2007 (UTC)


Also, as of 10/20/07, the Elite Commando shoulder armor still will not unlock, at least for some.
Also, as of 10/20/07, the Elite Commando shoulder armor still will not unlock, at least for some.
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I have all but one meta game achievement, no steppin razor, 815 gamerscore from 40 achivements and security shoulders. [[User talk:Agent Tasmania|Agent Tasmania]] 08:46, September 25, 2009 (UTC)
I have all but one meta game achievement, no steppin razor, 815 gamerscore from 40 achivements and security shoulders. [[User talk:Agent Tasmania|Agent Tasmania]] 08:46, September 25, 2009 (UTC)


:Read the timestamps on conversations before you post, Tasmania. <span style="background:#AADDAA;display:inline-block;height:16px;padding-right:4px;line-height:1em;position:relative;top:-3px;-moz-border-radius:0 50% 50%"><b>[[File:DavidJCobb_Emblem.svg|16px]] [[User:DavidJCobb|<span style="color:#000;position:relative;top:.15em">DavidJCobb&nbsp;</span>]]</b></span> 18:56, September 25, 2009 (UTC)
:Read the timestamps on conversations before you post, Tasmania. <span style="background:#AADDAA;display:inline-block;height:16px;padding-right:4px;line-height:1em;position:relative;top:-3px;-moz-border-radius:0 50% 50%"><b> [[User:DavidJCobb|<span style="color:#000;position:relative;top:.15em">DavidJCobb&nbsp;</span>]]</b></span> 18:56, September 25, 2009 (UTC)


== Elite Commando Shoulders ==
== Elite Commando Shoulders ==
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Yeah, the game guide is written by Bungie, which is an american company, and that's why it says armor instead of armour. - [[Special:Contributions/24.78.136.207|24.78.136.207]] 05:49, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
Yeah, the game guide is written by Bungie, which is an american company, and that's why it says armor instead of armour. - [[Special:Contributions/24.78.136.207|24.78.136.207]] 05:49, 27 January 2009 (UTC)


'''Both dilects''' are accepted as stated by CT. Leave the spelling of this type '''Alone''' [[User:Sub-71|<font color="Navy">5ub</font>]][[Special:EditCount/Sub-71|<font color="DarkBlue">nova</font>]] <nowiki>[</nowiki><small>[[User talk:Sub-71|<font color="MediumBlue">Comm<font color="DarkSlateGray">71</font></font>]] - [[Special:Emailuser/Sub-71|<font color="Blue">EComm</font><font color="DarkSlateGray">72</font>]] - [[Special:Contributions/Sub-71|<font color="RoyalBlue">Intell</font>]] - [[Halopedia:Covenant of Halopedia|<span title="SpecOps" style="color:DarkSlateGray">CoH</span>]] -  - SCoH|<span title="Administrative Assistant and Cadet" style="color:DarkSlateGray">SCoH</span>]]</small><nowiki>]</nowiki> 05:57, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
'''Both dilects''' are accepted as stated by CT. Leave the spelling of this type '''Alone''' [[User:Sub-71|<font color="Navy">5ub</font>]][[Special:EditCount/Sub-71|<font color="DarkBlue">nova</font>]] <nowiki>[</nowiki><small>[[User talk:Sub-71|<font color="MediumBlue">Comm<font color="DarkSlateGray">71</font></font>]] - [[Special:Emailuser/Sub-71|<font color="Blue">EComm</font><font color="DarkSlateGray">72</font>]] - [[Special:Contributions/Sub-71|<font color="RoyalBlue">Intell</font>]] - Halopedia:Covenant of Halopedia|<span title="SpecOps" style="color:DarkSlateGray">CoH</span>]] -  - SCoH|<span title="Administrative Assistant and Cadet" style="color:DarkSlateGray">SCoH</span>]]</small><nowiki>]</nowiki> 05:57, 27 January 2009 (UTC)


:He is wrong. The accepted standard on Halopedia is American English; Bungie is an American company. It is most definitely not necessary, however, to make an edit merely for the purpose of changing the dialect of spelling. If ''you'' continue to do it, I'll send you on another week long vacation. {{User:Manticore/Sig}} 12:18, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
:He is wrong. The accepted standard on Halopedia is American English; Bungie is an American company. It is most definitely not necessary, however, to make an edit merely for the purpose of changing the dialect of spelling. If ''you'' continue to do it, I'll send you on another week long vacation. {{User:Manticore/Sig}} 12:18, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
::As per Manticore. The accepted standard '''''is''''' American English. However, both spelling types '''are''' ultimately accepted, which is why we don't bother changing spellings. It'd be unfair to make all non-americans spell in american english, and vice versa. '''[[User:HaloDude|<font color="black">Ti</font>]]'''[[User talk:HaloDude|<font color="Orange">'''ger'''</font>]][[Special:Contributions/HaloDude|<font color="Black">'''rr'''</font>]][[w:c:halofanon:User:HaloDude|<font color="Orange">'''rr'''</font>]] 19:57, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
::As per Manticore. The accepted standard '''''is''''' American English. However, both spelling types '''are''' ultimately accepted, which is why we don't bother changing spellings. It'd be unfair to make all non-americans spell in american english, and vice versa. '''[[User:HaloDude|<font color="black">Ti</font>]]'''[[User talk:HaloDude|<font color="Orange">'''ger'''</font>]][[Special:Contributions/HaloDude|<font color="Black">'''rr'''</font>]][[halofanon:User:HaloDude|<font color="Orange">'''rr'''</font>]] 19:57, 27 January 2009 (UTC)


::Was that week vacation directed to me? because I clearly stated to leave the spelling dilects '''alone''' [[User:Sub-71|<font color="Navy">5ub</font>]][[Special:EditCount/Sub-71|<font color="DarkBlue">nova</font>]] <nowiki>[</nowiki><small>[[User talk:Sub-71|<font color="MediumBlue">Comm<font color="DarkSlateGray">71</font></font>]] - [[Special:Emailuser/Sub-71|<font color="Blue">EComm</font><font color="DarkSlateGray">72</font>]] - [[Special:Contributions/Sub-71|<font color="RoyalBlue">Intell</font>]] - - SCoH|<span title="Administrative Assistant and Cadet" style="color:DarkSlateGray">SCoH</span>]]</small><nowiki>]</nowiki> 12:20, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
::Was that week vacation directed to me? because I clearly stated to leave the spelling dilects '''alone''' [[User:Sub-71|<font color="Navy">5ub</font>]][[Special:EditCount/Sub-71|<font color="DarkBlue">nova</font>]] <nowiki>[</nowiki><small>[[User talk:Sub-71|<font color="MediumBlue">Comm<font color="DarkSlateGray">71</font></font>]] - [[Special:Emailuser/Sub-71|<font color="Blue">EComm</font><font color="DarkSlateGray">72</font>]] - [[Special:Contributions/Sub-71|<font color="RoyalBlue">Intell</font>]] - - SCoH|<span title="Administrative Assistant and Cadet" style="color:DarkSlateGray">SCoH</span>]]</small><nowiki>]</nowiki> 12:20, 27 January 2009 (UTC)
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excuse my bad spelling and grammer. --[[User talk:Burnoutexpert3|Burnoutexpert3]] 15:19, October 30, 2009 (UTC)
excuse my bad spelling and grammer. --[[User talk:Burnoutexpert3|Burnoutexpert3]] 15:19, October 30, 2009 (UTC)


:Yes... because you're still playing the campaign. No offense, but that's a stupid question. --[[User:Thunderstream328|<span style="color:SteelBlue; font-family:Algerian; ">'''T'''</span>]] [[User Talk:Thunderstream328|<span style="color:DodgerBlue; font-family:Bodoni MT Condensed; ">'''3'''</span>]] UserWiki:Thunderstream328|<span style="color:Blue; font-family:Castellar; ">'''2'''</span>]] [http://halopedian.com/Special:Contributions/Thunderstream328 <span style="color:MidnightBlue; font-family:Courier New; ">'''8'''</span>] [[File:Bouncy Wiki Logo.gif|38px]] 15:24, October 30, 2009 (UTC)
:Yes... because you're still playing the campaign. No offense, but that's a stupid question. --[[User:Thunderstream328|<span style="color:SteelBlue; font-family:Algerian; ">'''T'''</span>]] [[User Talk:Thunderstream328|<span style="color:DodgerBlue; font-family:Bodoni MT Condensed; ">'''3'''</span>]] UserWiki:Thunderstream328|<span style="color:Blue; font-family:Castellar; ">'''2'''</span>]] [http://halopedian.com/Special:Contributions/Thunderstream328 <span style="color:MidnightBlue; font-family:Courier New; ">'''8'''</span>] 15:24, October 30, 2009 (UTC)


== Other Armor Unlocked ==
== Other Armor Unlocked ==
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== Lag reveals unfinished armor permutations and Campaign armor ==
== Lag reveals unfinished armor permutations and Campaign armor ==


:''See: [[Talk:Halo: Reach Multiplayer Beta#Lag reveals unfinished armor permutations and Campaign armor]].'' <span style="background:#ADA;display:inline-block;height:16px;padding-right:4px;line-height:1em;position:relative;top:-3px;-moz-border-radius:0 50% 50%"><b>[[File:DavidJCobb_Emblem.svg|16px]]&nbsp;[[User:DavidJCobb|<span style="color:#000;position:relative;top:.15em">DavidJCobb&nbsp;</span>]]</b></span> 03:31, May 7, 2010 (UTC)
:''See: [[Talk:Halo: Reach Multiplayer Beta#Lag reveals unfinished armor permutations and Campaign armor]].'' <span style="background:#ADA;display:inline-block;height:16px;padding-right:4px;line-height:1em;position:relative;top:-3px;-moz-border-radius:0 50% 50%"><b>&nbsp;[[User:DavidJCobb|<span style="color:#000;position:relative;top:.15em">DavidJCobb&nbsp;</span>]]</b></span> 03:31, May 7, 2010 (UTC)


== Glitched Armor? ==
== Glitched Armor? ==
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Is the haunted helmet real? I've only seen in it a video from August 24th 2010, and the person had like, WAY too many credits lol [[User talk:CrackLawliet|CrackLawliet]] 02:54, September 20, 2010 (UTC)
Is the haunted helmet real? I've only seen in it a video from August 24th 2010, and the person had like, WAY too many credits lol [[User talk:CrackLawliet|CrackLawliet]] 02:54, September 20, 2010 (UTC)


Apparently there '''is '''a haunted helmet. The guy you saw it from was a modder. But there '''is a haunted helmet'''. You have to get all the armor first then you can put it on. [[File:Noblelogo.png|25px]]<small><span style="border: 1px purple; -moz-border-radius:10px">[[User:Phoenix Marathon|'''<span style="background-color:White; color:Blue; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;SPARTAN-A110&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>''']][[User:Phoenix Marathon/Talk Archive|<span style="background-color:silver; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;talk&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Phoenix Marathon|<span style="background-color:silver; color:white">&nbsp;&nbsp;contribs&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[User:Phoenix Marathon/Guestbook|<span style="background-color:silver; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;guestbook&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small>
Apparently there '''is '''a haunted helmet. The guy you saw it from was a modder. But there '''is a haunted helmet'''. You have to get all the armor first then you can put it on. <small><span style="border: 1px purple; -moz-border-radius:10px">[[User:Phoenix Marathon|'''<span style="background-color:White; color:Blue; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;SPARTAN-A110&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>''']][[User:Phoenix Marathon/Talk Archive|<span style="background-color:silver; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomleft:10px; -moz-border-radius-topleft:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;talk&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[Special:Contributions/Phoenix Marathon|<span style="background-color:silver; color:white">&nbsp;&nbsp;contribs&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]][[User:Phoenix Marathon/Guestbook|<span style="background-color:silver; color:white; -moz-border-radius-bottomright:10px; -moz-border-radius-topright:10px">&nbsp;&nbsp;guestbook&nbsp;&nbsp;</span>]]</span></small>


Seriously? That's pretty sweet... [[User talk:CrackLawliet|CrackLawliet]] 02:59, September 20, 2010 (UTC)
Seriously? That's pretty sweet... [[User talk:CrackLawliet|CrackLawliet]] 02:59, September 20, 2010 (UTC)
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==R attachment==
==R attachment==


Apparently, according to that Armor Perm picture, the R attachment on Assault/Sapper, Collar/Breacher, and HP/Parafoil, after purchasing them, you can get what's called an R attachment, I'm guessing which causes a Prosthetic arm. {{EM Sig}}
Apparently, according to that Armor Perm picture, the R attachment on Assault/Sapper, Collar/Breacher, and HP/Parafoil, after purchasing them, you can get what's called an R attachment, I'm guessing which causes a Prosthetic arm. EM


== Organization Proposal ==
== Organization Proposal ==
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I've noticed that this page, and the pages it links to, have become extremely disorganized. For example, half of the armor variants don't have their own articles, while others do. Additionally, some accessories have their own articles, instead of being integrated into a larger article for the variant that contains them.
I've noticed that this page, and the pages it links to, have become extremely disorganized. For example, half of the armor variants don't have their own articles, while others do. Additionally, some accessories have their own articles, instead of being integrated into a larger article for the variant that contains them.


I'm proposing that we combine all the constituent armor accessories for each variant into ONE article for the variant that they're in. For example, instead of having an article for [[Tactical/CHOBHAM]], [[Tactical/HARD CASE]], [[Tactical/SOFT CASE]], [[Tactical/TRAUMA KIT]], and [[Tactical/UGPS]], these articles should be combined into a page titled [[MJOLNIR Powered Assault Armor/Tactical]].
I'm proposing that we combine all the constituent armor accessories for each variant into ONE article for the variant that they're in. For example, instead of having an article for Tactical/CHOBHAM, Tactical/HARD CASE, Tactical/SOFT CASE, Tactical/TRAUMA KIT, and Tactical/UGPS], these articles should be combined into a page titled MJOLNIR Powered Assault Armor/Tactical.


Also, all variant articles should follow this format: '''MJOLNIR Powered Assault Armor/VARIANT NAME'''. Most of the armor permutation articles already have this, but there are a few that have names like [[Mark V(MP) MJOLNIR Powered Assault Armor]].
Also, all variant articles should follow this format: '''MJOLNIR Powered Assault Armor/VARIANT NAME'''. Most of the armor permutation articles already have this, but there are a few that have names like Mark V(MP) MJOLNIR Powered Assault Armor.


We also need to take the [[:Template:SPARTAN Armor|SPARTAN Armor]] template and change it so that only the variants are shown, not the individual accessories.
We also need to take the SPARTAN Armor template and change it so that only the variants are shown, not the individual accessories.


===Support===
===Support===
#{{Support}} - As per above. [[File:Noblelogo.png|30px]]'''<span style="font-family: Square721 BT; color: MidnightBlue;"> / / [[User:Stryker117|<font color="MidnightBlue"><small>STRYKER</small></font>]]''' &nbsp; <small><font color="SteelBlue">[ [[User talk:Stryker117|<font color="SteelBlue">COM</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Stryker117|<font color="SteelBlue">LOG/M</font>]] | [[Special:Editcount/Stryker117|<font color="SteelBlue">LOG/S</font>]] | [[User:Stryker117/Adopt-a-User|<font color="SteelBlue">AAU/HUM</font>]] ]</font></small></span> 00:59, October 4, 2010 (UTC)
#{{Support}} - As per above. '''<span style="font-family: Square721 BT; color: MidnightBlue;"> / / [[User:Stryker117|<font color="MidnightBlue"><small>STRYKER</small></font>]]''' &nbsp; <small><font color="SteelBlue">[ [[User talk:Stryker117|<font color="SteelBlue">COM</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Stryker117|<font color="SteelBlue">LOG/M</font>]] | [[Special:Editcount/Stryker117|<font color="SteelBlue">LOG/S</font>]] | [[User:Stryker117/Adopt-a-User|<font color="SteelBlue">AAU/HUM</font>]] ]</font></small></span> 00:59, October 4, 2010 (UTC)
#{{Support}} - Agreed. I was thinking of doing something similar but you beat me to it. The categories such as "TACTICAL", "UA" and so on aren't necessarily armor ''variants'' per se - they might just be names for categories of certain types of attachments. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 05:39, October 4, 2010 (UTC)
#{{Support}} - Agreed. I was thinking of doing something similar but you beat me to it. The categories such as "TACTICAL", "UA" and so on aren't necessarily armor ''variants'' per se - they might just be names for categories of certain types of attachments. --[[User:Jugus|<font color="MidnightBlue"><b>Jugus</b></font>]] <small>([[User talk:Jugus|<font color="Gray">Talk</font>]] | [[Special:Contributions/Jugus|<font color="Gray">Contribs</font>]])</small> 05:39, October 4, 2010 (UTC)


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===Comments===
===Comments===


== About/Removal picture of Mark VI in Halo: Reach ==
== About/Removal picture of Mark VI in Halo: Reach ==